whitebeltjourney1

Logan Daniels and Ryan Schmitz start a podcast called the White Belt Journey. They discuss their experiences as white belts in Jiu Jitsu and how it has influenced their lives. They talk about the importance of community and helping each other grow. They also emphasize the need for balance between Jiu Jitsu and personal life and the importance of developing skills rather than focusing on belt levels. They share personal stories of how Jiu Jitsu has helped them with anger issues and weight loss. They encourage white belts to ask questions and seek guidance from upper belts. They also discuss the benefits of positional training and drilling. Welcome to episode one of the White Belt Journey with Logan Daniels and Ryan Schmitz. Enjoy the episode. So, a little bit on who we are since not a lot of people probably know us. I am a 17 year old white belt that trains under Zach Paul at Roanoke Jiu Jitsu Academy. I would be a grey white belt just recently promoted. I also train against Zach Paul at Roanoke. I think a lot about how we wanted to get this started with our podcast is both came up with the idea between two people of, you know what, let's randomly decide a podcast one day. I think the biggest thing for a lot of us is that mostly throughout our lives a lot of people hear a lot of podcasts from a lot of upper belts like the Gracies, the Machatos, all sorts of great people out there. But most importantly throughout here you would mostly hear a lot of white belts complain about their journey or how tough it is and some people don't make it all the way and it's difficult. But for us we just kind of wanted to bring to light on our journey of how it affects us throughout our lives and how it kind of influenced us to get us to where we are today. You got anything to add Ryan? I think though for Ryan and me for sure training at Roanoke Jiu Jitsu Academy for sure under Zach Paul is a different kind of training wouldn't you say? Oh very. Compared to Argyle and other gyms it's more rough. We definitely do a rougher, meaner kind of Jiu Jitsu as compared to traditional. Getting a little bit of like influence of we have a lot of guys that come in actually like have a Judo black belt at our school. We got 12 year olds pulling calf slicers on each other which are nuts and then of course Zach risk locking us like 24-7. I think though especially for our community and kind of where we go to is that we're very loving and very kind towards each other. You got some communities that people just want to hurt each other and go for it. Just yesterday we all went out for a group meet out for tacos and Justin which was pretty fun. It was. Just having a bunch of people you come out and you train with and you're just able to spend good time with them and stuff like that. It boosts morale too because the more time you spend with your training buddies and the people you go to with your gym it boosts your overall morale with each other. So y'all can hopefully be as a team together more. Yeah, that makes perfect sense as to what. I think especially coming into how you got different styles like I said before of when you go to different gyms. I know you don't really go as much to different gyms as what I do as much but especially cross training at doing some Argyle Jiu Jitsu Academy and doing Round Oak and seeing two different kinds of styles of play. I think it really helps a lot of people's games too, cross training as Zach has said that a lot of our training has especially been influenced by him but seeing different styles and then applying it into your work just makes you a better person overall. I think for sure a lot of white belts should take advantage of that. If they're able to go and once they get a good basis of what Jiu Jitsu is that you should go see other gyms because you can learn more things and you can learn more different kinds of lifestyles of what's going on. You can choose your style. The more you cross train the more different aspects of training you see and the more you can put that into your own training so you have a huge variety. Yeah, I mean variety is key here. You could also make up your own style really if you wanted to. If you're that... I wouldn't recommend it. Probably not but if you have that much of a drive to go and create something then you totally can. Any white belt is totally able to apply themselves to whatever they want, especially work ethic. So a lot of people, sometimes they don't have the time to go and train almost every day. Me personally I train seven days a week and I've been doing that for seven months straight since I started. That's crazy. So, I mean you've obviously Ryan gotten at least like four or five days a week. You're currently on injury right now. I try to go every day but it's, I'd say once every two weeks I take either one or two days of break that week. Not because I can but mostly because I have just other family stuff to do. Yeah, I mean we're also just kids still. Yeah. And that's a big important thing is like even if you are a kid or you're a full grown adult you always have to have that balance between Jiu Jitsu and your life starting off for sure. Because you don't want to get to the point where you're too obsessed and then you start prioritizing Jiu Jitsu over everything else, right? Because once that becomes a major priority then you're not going to be able to really focus on the things you need in your life that's going to be important. Like Jiu Jitsu brings great things into your life and overall helps your mental state or anything else you might be struggling with. And it even breaks addictions that other White Belts have told me about and stuff too. Which is a great thing. But I just say making sure you have balance in your life is a great thing for all starting White Belts because it just, it helps overall especially. I would also say that especially, I know coming from Ryan, like just me and him started literally on the same day. On November 31st of 2022. And like both of us being together on day one we didn't know each other, we didn't know what we were getting into necessarily. I think walking into that building, you know, Matt's space not as large as it is now. Zach's still having his Purple Belt. You know I walked in I think that day personally, like you know, I went to more or less go try it out and be like okay let's see if this thing is really something good still, right? It's also, you gotta think about it, when new people show up to the gym, even if they don't go ever, at least they showed up to see what it is, you know? Yeah, no that makes sense. Because if they don't, then I guess they, I don't know. Well no that makes sense, like you hear a lot of people also say too, like the hardest transition from belt wise, it's not white to black, right? It's that normal Nog belt you're wearing to getting the White Belt and actually showing up to class and getting there. And that's the most important thing is you gotta be there in class in order to develop and learn something. You can't just come once and then expect to be like, oh I'm super great now. It takes that time, like this sport is something that is not, I'd put it as, this sport is not something that comes easy to some people and then other times you don't have to train. You're gonna have to train, you're gonna have to be in the gym. Some people think that if they just show up, they'll get a blue belt, purple, brown, black. But since I've been promoted to a belt, I can successfully say no, because you actually have to work a lot. Yeah, I mean, you do. And a lot is pretty much of an understatement coming from people I've met at Argyle and other people because it's a grind. It's a big grind and a big commitment. Yeah, for sure. I know still being a White Belt for, well obviously I'll be a White Belt for a while, but just being a White Belt and seeing a lot of people come in, as to where I first started, seeing a lot of new people come in now, you obviously in your gym, all White Belts especially should know this, that if you see a new White Belt coming in, invite them in. Try to train with them, try to work with them, help them. Don't be the White Belt that always tries to smash them and not let them work or anything like that, because ultimately you're gonna want more people for your gym. And that's the biggest thing, is you're gonna want more people for your gym and to be included in your group. We have a lot of people that are in our gym that we're all friends with, especially you, Glenn, Jaden, Chris, because I know Chris probably wants to be thrown in there. Just being overall that pack together, you really look out for each other. You really build a lot of bonds in here. And I think that is a great thing, especially a lot of White Belts, learn from your Upper Belts, take their advice with whatever they give you, right? Because you can apply that anywhere. You can probably apply that in your lives even at some certain point. To where it's like, you gotta build that community for sure, especially moving around and no matter what happens in your life, those guys will be there for you. Even though you're trying to kill each other daily, just being right there next to each other is something way greater than somebody who just sits there. Just having the relationship with them. If you have a good relationship with a bunch of people, you're most likely to stay with each other for a lot longer than most people, because y'all are just always helping each other, you're staying with each other, you're watching each other grow, you're progressing with each other, which can really do something. Yeah, especially putting into play one of my good friends here, Jaden, trains with us. He came in, I think, whenever I brought him in, day one, he looked like your average... He was very scrappy, very scrappy, for sure. To where now, man, with his gray-white belt, that kid is something else. He's a killer. He decided to apply himself to that grind and he was one of the best white belts I think I ever watched, for sure. He's gonna be a great addition to the next generation of people that come up in our gym, for sure. He did great during his tournament, man, getting a seven-second armbar, that was nuts. Got silver, too. Yeah, got silver, I mean, he got armbar to the end, but man, winning like 4-0 straight, that was a good fight. For sure, he'll be one of our good ones. I feel like he's really gonna bring up the community, he's gonna be that white belt example. Because even though he might be a gray-white belt right now, he's still on a kid's scale. So obviously, better, higher up. But all that matters is not about belt level, right? Because I could be a white belt, submitting blue belts, or something under that, where it's all about what can you do on the mat. It's not about where you're ranked. A lot of people, I especially know that I've been working on this for quite a while, is that you might want a belt or stripes really, really bad, right? You gotta work for it. Yeah. It's not, it doesn't come easy, for sure. It doesn't matter about the belt level, right? It matters about the development and skills that are applied into your role. It's not about how much you come every single day. Putting in the most max days I could put in, and I'm still not even able to reach my full potential yet, or even close to that. There's still a lot of work to be done, and when you're chasing a belt, it takes away the development and skills needed to be able to really develop yourself, because you're too busy and focused on, I want that belt, I want that belt, I want those stripes, to be where most white belts need to just focus on where they are, right? The belts and stripes will come along the way. You need to develop your skills and hone them in more. Which I don't think you should look at it as the belt tells you how good you are, but your skills tell you how good you are. Yeah, I mean, everything's always going to be applied on the mat, no matter what. I think though, especially for you and me, that Jiu-Jitsu greatly affected our lives in different ways. For me especially. I mean, yeah, I'll let you go first and say that. When I started Jiu-Jitsu, I was pushing 400 pounds, Jesus, no, I was pushing 140 pounds, and in the span of eight months, have we hit 80 pounds yet? No, I think we're on... It's like almost 80, like 70. I think we're on seven or 80, it's just close to there. I'd just go for seven though. For seven months and going six to five days a week, I've dropped down to almost 125 pounds. Yeah, losing like 20 pounds. Yeah. That's, I mean, I did not expect that at all. If you see old pictures of me, I had really, really crappy hair. I was really overweight and I'm not ashamed. I mean, no, look 10 times better now. Well, I should say, you look good then, good, good, whatever. I hate looking at old photos of me. You can always see him at the Runno Jiu-Jitsu link on Instagram. I think though, Brian's journey, great with everything he has and accomplished, greatly helping his life. I know, especially for me, coming into Jiu-Jitsu, had some knowledge as a kid. It really didn't make a difference. Whenever I walked in there, I figured, oh, this is just another routine thing. And then Zach bundled me up and I was like, okay, I need to learn how to fight again. I think though, a major thing it helped was a lot of my anger issues. That was a big thing. When I first started, for sure, I was very angry all the time. I was regularly hurting someone almost one time a week. Miles Jaden. Miles Jaden. Jaden would always get black eyes. He still gets black eyes. Yeah, that is true. I think Jiu-Jitsu has helped my mind. You don't- It's a stress reliever. You may not believe that, but it actually is a big stress reliever. I think so, for sure. The matter of fact is that, I think, especially with a lot of people and a lot of white belts, if you're struggling with something or something like that, try to go to Jiu-Jitsu. A lot of people won't put themselves in there, but when you do, greatness happens in there, man. There's change that happens. I know, for me, I'm not always as angry as all the time. Matter of fact is, too, that I've been able to make more friends and really change my personality than I have in a while. Usually I'm a very quiet person, but now, being where I'm at, we have a group and we have people that come in every day and we're always inviting. I can actually go, purely saying that I can have, or I have now, way more control than I did when I first started. It was definitely, I could tone it back if I need to, I could turn it up if we need to. I think you can even vouch for me that everybody was scared to roll with me at the start. I can even say that. The first two months, you would just fight as hard as you could every single fight, and honestly I never wanted to roll with you. Yeah, well, that makes perfect sense. I think the thing was, I was so focused as a white belt on the matter of fact that I wanted to win class, right? I wanted to win, win, win, because that's all I thought it was about, was winning class, just getting it done. To where it has really what us white belts should focus on is the matter of fact that we need to work with our partners and we're both helping each other train. We're not out there to kill each other. We're out there to help each other learn and grow, and especially during rolling time or whenever you're fighting, try to help your partner. See what they need to work on or put them in front of you, really. Try to help each other so y'all can both develop instead of one person getting hurt at the end of the day and just being like, die is his fault anyways. You're trying to build bonds. You're not trying to break them, for sure. I think when I roll with Jaden, I don't say this to be cocky, but I would say I'm a little better than him and I have a huge weight advantage, but whenever I roll with him, I try to give him positions so I can fight out of him. I try to get me in his guard because I suck at guard passing, so I try to work at that. We all got to develop. At the end of the day, we all suck at guard passing. Yeah, we all just are bad at it. I think for sure, though, doing a lot of positional training is very big for white belts. That's what I've started getting into seven months in now. I started maybe last month, started doing it for a while now. The matter of fact that the positional training is very key. It helps you really work on having a tournament come up. Next week, I actually introduced the World League, Texas Five. Is this your fourth tournament? This is my fourth tournament, actually. It will be my last juvenile tournament at 17, before I hit the adults bracket, 18 to 29, which is scary. But I got a piece of that last time and they kicked my butt first round and put me in the ground. But I think this time going in with a lot of positional training and a lot of drilling with a lot of upper belts has really helped me just kind of hone in on what I need to do for this tournament and what I need to get done. A lot of escaping guard. Not really them submitting you. Have your friend or other white belts hold you down, try to not let you escape and you got to get out. I think that is probably one of the best things. When you're first beginning, especially during a lot of on-boarding classes for beginners, which we did one actually just yesterday at OpenMAT at run-up, we had a lot of ladies come in and I think two guys come in and they were just drilling guard escapes and mountain escapes and really because if you don't know how to get out of that stuff, what are you going to do in a fight? It's not going to help. It's good to have someone to do that with. If you don't have a partner, I don't know. Get your parents, get your friends. I don't know. Try to get them to hold you down. If you really can't find anyone in your gym, then either ask your professor or just I bet you everybody will be more than willing to help you. Help a white belt, right? Because everybody's trying to get up and trying to move with each other and that's the thing, going back to community. They were there once too. Yeah. I mean, we are all there right now at our gym especially, just being seven months. That is the biggest thing for sure. I think though for sure, I think our training experiences could be varied between the two of us of how intense we go and or how much we put in, how much we get out. You can usually tell by the person you're rolling with if they want to go with a hard roll or just a slow light roll. I mean, they'll also tell you too. You can always work with your partner and just ask them if you really want to not move as much or and or focus on something specific. I know with me training especially, I try to come seven days a week so I'm getting the max amount of work I can possibly get, get all material. Even me helping out with the little kids' classes and stuff, seeing the same move three times in more and more detail each time. By the end of Thursday, that move is just solidified in my brain of how it runs, how it works. Sure, I'm going to mess up. It's still something new to me, but I can understand the details behind it just seeing it so much. That's especially a big thing too. It's like staying and watching, watching a lot of Upper Pals and or watching kids do it. You can see and you can pick up things of how people are doing and ask questions. For sure, ask questions. That's a major thing for White Belts. Ask questions because you might not know something and don't think you might know it or something. Asking questions is the best thing a White Belt can do to Upper Belts because a lot of them can understand and tell you what you were doing wrong and or how to fix it. Especially me and Frank at Argyle Jiu Jitsu Academy. He helped me a lot. He trained under Zach for a while and Professor Paul back in Argyle. He came to Roanoke last week. That's why I got mixed up. He just helps me so much with my training. I can really see progress with him and he helps me develop something new every time, every time. That is just the best thing about having those people. I think though getting back on the track of the podcast specifically about how we started, how this really came into mind. How did you think of the idea? I think it was actually a hilarious way of how it started for sure. I had always had watching BJJ Executive with Dave. It was a good experience. Never really focused on podcasts before and getting into Jiu Jitsu and finally seeing the guy come in and be like, oh I have a podcast. I was like, oh okay, I'll listen. I'll put in some work to it. Listening to our own professor and other professors on there like Formiga, Professor Paul and Zach being on there. It was like having Double Five affiliation on there. It's like, okay, so you can connect to you somehow or some way or shape. I think the biggest thing was just listening to that and seeing, wow, these are a lot of world class athletes or really good people that have such great experiences and stuff from their lives. Really cool stories. Yeah, especially learning about people's stories and stuff like that. I think the biggest thing for us was, I was like, okay, we got to start this. We got to tell it from a different point of view somehow. Like I said, you have a lot of people, it's a lot of upper belts telling stories to a lot of lower belts. Never really do you hear the side of the story from the lower belt as they're training and as they're progressing. I think this is something new that is not going to be done, especially how young of age we are. We're talking to youth- What other 14 do you know that's on our podcast? I don't know, to be quite honest with you. But for sure that having a BJJ centered podcast with two teens and just working our way up in progression, I think the best thing for sure is the matter of fact that we're going to be learning as we're growing and we're going to be able to share more insight later on in our journeys. You know, we can even explain, if we might even be struggling, we can even explain to other people that might be in the same scenario of like, it's getting too rough, I might quit. Because I've had a couple of those experiences. I wanted to quit one day. It's hurting me, it's hurting me physically, but going back to it and seeing the people you have around you and how much you've put into it, it's like, you can't give up this, man. It's so good for you. And it's crazy. And like, especially for us in our community that we've started this podcast, like we've talked to a lot of people about it, right? A lot of people were interested in coming on, especially Dave helping us with ours, reached out to him and generously took us in for it. I think though, that just having this different kind of perspective before is going to be something really good for a lot of the community. And seeing what we can do and maybe help a lot of people and maybe even bring some attention to the gyms nearby in our community, for sure. And we of course, we want to have people on, hear about experiences, all sorts of stuff. But like, I really think the main way that this thing kind of started was actually from my mom, for sure. She kind of gave me the idea because I was listening one day and she was listening to the BJJ Executive Podcast. And we were both like, she's like, Logan, why don't you start a podcast? And I was like, me start a podcast? Sparkled a little idea in the head. Yeah, like the idea was in the head and I was like, huh. I was like, I have no idea how this is even going to get anywhere. And then I was like, okay, so I took some thought and planning, I was evaluating pros and cons of it. And then I started talking to the people around me and I was like, okay, Ryan, I have an idea for a podcast, right? And he's like, a podcast? I was like, yeah, a podcast. And so we started with that. And he's like, so what's the name for it? And I was like, what if we do the White Belt Journey? I was like, what if we try something new? Tell the story from a White Belt as they move up progressively. And I think that's just kind of where it jumped off from for sure. Just being able to really spread that attention and cause. I just hope that this thing eventually will take off. I want to reach out to a lot of people, a lot of White Belts out there, because the struggle is real, man. It is real. It's not just you. It really is. It takes a lot of work, a lot of dedication to it. I think for sure that no matter how the scenario might be, if you're listening, if eventually when we get our own cameras and stuff like that, whenever you're watching online, that this really brings something to you and your personality. If you had really anything that you could share or know, I think that'd be great. I know especially we want to have a lot of people on here. Eventually want to get some of the guys, even a lot of the upper belts on here, but also some of our lower belts that even trained with us, putting them on, hearing their stories, their experiences. Because everybody's story is different, right? It's not just going to be ours. Lower belt, I guess, people talk about their journey. People inspire more people to start and make their own journey. I think because once you put on that white belt, man, you're in for a ride. It's not something you don't want to walk away from. It's so much fun. I think that eventually having those people on, we can inspire a lot of people. A lot of people right now in our community especially, it's like, oh, jujitsu. I'm not too sure on that. Taekwondo or taekwondo may be better, something like that. I was like, hey, you got to come try it. We have a dude- It's just a simple YouTube video. All you got to do is just look up a YouTube video of comparing the two and you'll be like, that's really different. We had a guy come in, a taekwondo guy, just recently, maybe two weeks ago. His mom wanted him to try it. He was like, dude, this is something different. He's like, I've never tried this before. I think he's fitting in great to our thing. We got a lot of new guys coming in each and every day. A lot of families, kids, teens. We're looking for probably more adults and teens, for sure. Our kids' class is huge, having a lot of people in there. We have a lot of great potential, especially with where we're starting. I think, though, the major thing is the matter of fact that having so many people come in just brings a smile to everyone's face at the end of the day, seeing our personal gym grow and seeing other gyms grow. Especially going to promotion nights. That was a cool experience. Promotion night was a cool experience at our YAL Jiu-Jitsu Academy. I think for sure some of the promotion nights, even at our academy, was pretty cool. I know within the first two weeks of me starting, I went with one of my buddies that was starting with me. We went to our girls' promotion. Just seeing everybody be promoted there and seeing Zach get his brown belt, that was the funniest experience I think I've ever been in, for sure. We were all sitting in there. You're sitting there, you're waiting, and it's like, there's no way this is going to happen. You're watching other people finally accomplish what they've dreamed of. The promotion night just happened. A lot of people that's been at their belt that they were for a while, was Frank a blue belt for a while? Yeah, Frank was a blue belt for a while. Watching him get his purple was just magical almost. We all knew Frank was a purple belt after we rode with him because, man, that dude was not... I was like, if that's a blue belt and that's what I got to get to, I'm going to get it. Yeah, that's pretty crazy, man. I'm glad he got to where he is now. Like we said before, belt's not everything. It's just a basically acknowledgement. It's a form of rank and acknowledgement. Hey, you're getting really, really good. Here's this to show what you are. Just because I wear a blue belt doesn't mean that I performed at blue belt level. It's going to be a matter of fact that you have to be able to put in that own work yourself because a belt's not what identifies you. Your skill is what identifies you and who you are as a person. I think for sure that is the biggest thing. I would think that especially being on the mats, having... I can take you for example, Professor Louie came in super humble one day and I really wasn't expecting anything. Sat down, it's like, he shook my hand and he was like, hey, how are you? I was like, good man. He came in, changed. Next thing you know, he's got a black belt on and I'm like, oh. I thought this guy was new. I thought this was a new guy. He's a great, great person. I've rolled with him quite a lot of times and he's really helped guide me of where I need to go along with Professor Paul. Those two black belts really helped me. I'm very wanting to take a couple guys from our gym and go to Double Five in Highland Village with Formiga and his facility. Especially go see a lot of other gyms. The more we can get and the more we can see, I think, is the major thing. That way we can really change up our game, show some new things to maybe some people and or seeing what's out there. Our style, a lot of people come in, they're like, knuckles to the face. What? Roanoke's style compared to Argyle's is very different. I like both of their styles. I think a lot of people, if they see me roll, they see I try to do a bit of both. I'll try a lot of guard play, seeing how that functions and how that moves. I'm not the best guard player in the world. I'm not some Gordon Ryan, Nicky Ryan kind of athlete. I think the biggest thing is just trying something new and trying some new technique maybe you haven't learned before. Or trying to hone in on something that is just kind of different for you. It's going to be good for you in the end, right? A lot of white belts. We got to focus on really the basics in our development because once we have those basics down it really helps us progress and move for sure. I also think though that, as a matter of fact, I think you can even vouch for me on this, that whenever you're going and doing Jiu Jitsu, each belt level is just more and more development. You got white belt, your most basic skill, basic entry, stuff like that. And then you have blue belt. It's like, okay, you got a basic understanding of what Jiu Jitsu is. Then you got purple, which is like... Being able to teach. Yeah, you're being able to teach. You're being able to really kind of like... You're going to be able to teach an onboarding class, especially a lot of blue belts. I know that is a requirement for us. We have to teach an onboarding class for all the new white belts whenever we get there, which probably won't be for a while for a couple of us, especially me and Chris, because we are supposed to be the first two organic blue belts of run of Jiu Jitsu. Actually, I think Ryan might beat Chris in that run. Maybe. Might beat Chris. Maybe Chris is like neck to neck right now. It would be a very, very interesting run between y'all two, I think for sure. Anything like that, you know. I mean, regardless of how old you are, too, anybody can jump in this. I've seen dudes that are like 80 doing this, and then I see kids as young as four. That's right. I saw a 75-year-old. He looked 75. Yeah, probably. I don't think I saw that guy, but I think you're right for it. I love seeing our growth and the kids in the gym, for sure. Seeing the matter of fact that they're learning, they're developing, they're growing. Seeing them really thrive. I think one of the main kids that I've really seen a lot of progress in is Jaden Wright. Of course, him, he's going to... The very first day after his first class, nobody showed up for the open mat the next day, so he had a three-hour, one-on-one lesson with Zach. That helped him a lot. Yeah, and I think that was the biggest thing for his growth, is that he saw, day one, what he went to. He realized what it was. And then now he was like, okay, I'm going to turn it up a notch. And man, that kid is crazy. I think for a lot of the little kids' classes, seeing... I mean, especially all of them, because a lot of them all... We're all friends. It's Coach Logan and Coach Zach. It's always fun. It's going to be a good ride until I have to leave for college. I think that will be a hard day. But I... Not for Zach. Probably not for Zach, but I think for sure that seeing a lot of people and a lot of the kids come in and seeing the smile on their faces, even though they're being beat up, playing games and enjoying time together, that's the biggest thing, is just watching those kids grow and develop. It's cool to see someone who started really young, really just brand new, just brand new. In 10 years, you see them as a blue belt, purple belt. Yeah. I mean, it'd be very interesting for the kids to see where they get one day. And I hope I can come back for that, for sure. I think, though, for sure now, matter of fact, is just enjoying our time where we are as white belts and gray-white belts. As we slowly progress up the scale, the matter of fact is that we have to learn together, grow together, and develop together. And I think that is the most important thing of the white belt journey, is just working together to get to your common goal. And try to bring people with you. Don't try to do this thing alone. It's not something to do alone. You need to do it together. No, it's fun alone. No. That would be a very hard time if I didn't have our group together, especially, and all the people that have encouraged me along the way, for sure, and my family for supporting me and a lot of our upper belts that have helped me along the way, for sure. And guys, I think that is it for our first episode of the white belt journey. Thank you all for listening in, and we'll see you next time.