Molly Elmore, a thought leader in the XRP community, discusses her journey into the cryptocurrency space and her belief in the power of positive thinking. She was inspired to explore cryptocurrencies after realizing that fiat money is not real and wanted to find a better option. She found XRP fascinating due to scandals and buybacks, and believes that a new financial system is being planned, different from what is portrayed in the media. She questions the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto and the coordinated marketing behind Bitcoin. Molly believes that there is deception and a need for more transparency in the world of money.
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So let's get ready to be inspired as we dive into the brilliant mind of a visionary disruptor, Molly Elmore. Molly's journey from humble beginnings to establishing herself as a thought leader in the XRP community is a testament to the unwavering spirit of human ambition. Now beyond her entrepreneurial success, Molly's insightful perspective on the future of finance sets her apart from other mainstream ideas being presented to the world. It's no longer a secret that we're undergoing a financial transformation and her insights are a guiding light shaping a more inclusive and innovative economic landscape.
In this interview, we explore not only Molly's views on the new financial system and a belief in technology's role in reshaping finance for the better, but also her perspective on positive thinking and what that can do for your overall well-being. Molly is a beacon of optimism in these exciting but uncertain times. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur, a finance enthusiast, someone seeking inspiration, Molly Elmore's story and insights will leave a lasting mark on your journey. So get ready for a conversation that's an exploration into the exceptional mind of Molly Elmore.
Hello, Molly. Hello, Molly. Hello. Hi, Molly. Nice to meet you. I'm Christy. Nice to meet you. How are you guys doing? Excellent. Excellent. Thanks for joining us today. Sure. Welcome to Beyond the Brink. We are beyond excited to have you here on our show today. I'm not really sure what you want to talk about, but I'm excited to be here. Well, you got a cup of coffee. Let's have a coffee. I had my drink. No, we've got some things to talk about.
So awesome. There you go. Your latest video where you were talking about the future of the financial system and then your perspective on the positive thoughts and kind of looking into the things that you do want, that's what kind of sparked me to ask you to be on the show. I've followed your channel for quite some time now and did a little research. And just for the viewers, I found Molly through cryptocurrency coaching, your kind of your coaching style, and it followed your channel through that.
And then as of late, you're kind of talking more into the positive reinforcement thinking and that sort of thing. So I thought you'd be a perfect person to have Beyond the Brink because Beyond the Brink is not just all of the craziness that's happening, that's pushing people beyond the brink, which is really what this show's about, but also what is Beyond the Brink, which is the light at the end of the tunnel and the future. So if you wouldn't mind, tell us a little bit about yourself.
I did some research and you've come a long way, a 20-year career in digital advertising, I see, and that you've definitely been a pillar in the XRP community. And I've really enjoyed your educational videos regarding monetary history and finance. So what pushed you to get into the cryptocurrency space and then your inspirational side of things where, you know, the power of positive thinking? Sure. So I was a business... After my career in digital media measurement, I became a business coach.
And I had this one thing that was really hard, which was to ask for money. Like, I was great at coaching, I was great at the marketing of it, I could set up all these sales calls and I'd get on the call and we'd get to the part where I had to ask for the money and I was just, like, so uncomfortable with that. And that goes back to a lot of, like, old money stuff for me growing up.
However, someone suggested to me, someone I don't even know, they were like, if you knew, like, where money really comes from, you would be able to let go of this emotional business that you have with money. Like, it's not real. And I'm like, what are you talking about? What do you mean money's not real? So they told me to read this book called The Creature from Jekyll Island, which I have on my shelf and it's behind me in every video that I make.
Because no... It was, like, the key thing for me, that book. I didn't even believe all of it at the time, like, my own cognitive dissonance sort of kicked in at that stage. But it led me on this journey to being like, if money's not real, like, if they're just printing it out of nothing, like, do we... Is there a better option? Like, how can we move to something that is real? Because it was just fascinating to me.
And that's where my crypto journey started. I was like, all right, if fiat is a mess, is crypto the answer? And I started to learn about Bitcoin and Ethereum and I went through this whole list of digital assets. And I was in a coaching program at the time about crypto. And they told me to skip XRP. They're like, we don't like that one, but do all the other ones on the list. And I did all of them from Luna to Phantom, I mean, to Avalanche, all of them.
But I was having this little OCD thing. I was like, you know, if I'm going to do... I used to write reports about them. I was like, if I'm going to do all of them, I can't, like, just skip number four or whatever XRP was at the time. And so I went to look into that and all this and very, very quickly I found two things that fascinated me. One was this Eastgate scandal and two was this buyback thing.
And I was like, this is juicy. None of the other blockchains have this kind of stuff. There's no scandals with Avalanche or Phantom. And it looked like there was really a lot more going on than meets the eye. And that kind of started this whole rabbit hole. I met all these new people and learned about all this stuff. And that was sort of what kind of contributed to my awakening that we are getting a new financial system.
It is not the one you are reading about in the news. It is not going to be led by Bitcoin and Ethereum and this idea of, like, libertarian DeFi things where we're, like, going to have control of our own thing. That's not really what's been planned, is that we are going to move to the blockchain. There's going to be digital money that runs on the blockchain. And the media is intentionally being told to distract us and to have us focus on certain parts and not really think about XRP.
I have a long, long career in marketing, so I can very easily tell professional world class marketing from, like, grassroots, ground up, like, what they call guerrilla marketing. The Bitcoin machine is a professional marketing machine. Like, I have no doubt that it is not a grassroots libertarian movement. And I knew that very early on. It's just it's all it's what they call on point. Like, everybody has the same message. They're all coordinated, just like we see with the media.
And so I was like, how could if there's no CEO of Bitcoin and there's no company behind Bitcoin, who's organizing all of this coordinated marketing? And I don't really have the answers to those questions, but I don't think that there is this romantic story of the benevolent Satoshi Nakamoto, who created this gift for humanity, for us to be able to escape the fiat money system. It's just too perfect of a story where real life stories are generally kind of messy.
You have like a flawed character in real life who has good intentions, but is also messed up. But Satoshi is just like too perfect. It's like benevolent angel who appeared out of nowhere. And that's kind of when I got into the XRP sort of world to the point where XRP people I connect with them because there's some incredibly sharp analysts in there who are researchers who will dig deeply and they connect the dots and they will create stories that are not emotionally manipulative.
And that's what we found out is that the Department of Homeland Security knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. They know that they are people. They know that they are based in California. I actually have a theory who those four people are. But why would Congress, when talking about legislation for things like Bitcoin, why would that not be the first thing that they demand to know? What if we find out that Bitcoin was created by like a North Korean terrorist? They're going to let Vanguard or BlackRock have an ETF for Bitcoin without having the identity revealed.
So the fact that they are not asking that question to me is so important, which is why this whole world of money is so fascinating because there's a lot of deception going on. I think it's like a giant game. You know, you know, you just touched on something that I'm so there's some of the thing I think I think I have a little bit different views on Bitcoin, but that's OK. But but the Satoshi thing and them not asking who he is, you put everything aside.
That is a very important question that you would think that these folks would ask, because clearly most of the people in Congress don't seem to know much about crypto. There's a few that do, but most of them don't. And you're right. That is the most logical first question to ask or try to get to the bottom of. Right. If you're doing your due diligence as a senator or anybody on any of these committees, that would be one of the questions that you that would be one of my questions.
It is one of my questions. Right. So, yeah, that just that was interesting that you said that because, you know, they're in. And also when you say as far as the organized messaging, I noticed that, too. I do think that the XRP army, there is some of that organized messaging also marketing. There's a there's a bunch of folks parroting like the same messaging in in that community as well. But I do see a difference really in the in the Bitcoin community compared to to the XRP community in terms of the XRP community.
They know that that they're building this financial system and they're trying to kind of cover it up and like not have people interested in it because they don't want us to know about it. Right. So they're kind of but they're digging at all the connections between the companies and, you know, who who is associated with whom and how long these partnerships have been in place and where you you're not really seeing that with the Bitcoin community in terms of the financial sector.
I guess I'm saying I've learned more about finance in the in the inner workings of the companies through the XRP community as far as the researchers than I have from from the Bitcoin community or the Ethereum. I don't really follow the Ethereum community, so I don't really know. But I think that that makes sense because XRP is is aligned with the financial system. It's there. They want to do the payment processing for banks and so forth.
So that makes no sense. Bitcoin is a whole different story. It's like about personal sovereignty, you know, taking control of yourself. Don't don't put your Bitcoin into a bank. It's self-custody. But the whole thing about Bitcoin, I agree with with all of what's been said here is that it's a national security apparatus device. And the the peer to peer digital cash system is just, you know, a side effect of that. A couple of things, if a large organization like BlackRock or Vanguard were to put out like an ETF type thing for Bitcoin, they have a fiduciary responsibility to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is.
So the fact that that is not coming up tells me that they already know. They do. Conversations have happened behind closed doors. So there is intentional deception in the part of like public disclosure. You're absolutely right. That is 100 percent. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I keep going back to national security. This when you look at all of the the components of Bitcoin and all of the other blockchains, which pretty much are copies of Bitcoin, they're all based on military applications that have been passed on to us.
TCP, IP, GPS, SHA-256, all of that. Those are all military grade applications that are all whipped up and and put into Bitcoin. Bitcoin also is primarily going to be a store of value. It's not really created to be a transaction asset. So my belief is that after the 2008-2009 financial crisis, a lot of people were very upset about the bailouts and the way the banks were given preferential treatment. I remember that very clearly. And so the logical place for people, especially young, techie libertarian men, would have been gold.
But instead of migrating around gold, Bitcoin was put in front as digital gold, this alternative to gold. And we know for the last 10 years that the central banks around the world have been stockpiling gold. The banking system is not anti-gold. They've been buying it en masse. But what have we not been doing as like consumers or retail investors? We were pushed into this Bitcoin idea and not really pushed into gold to the same degree. So I think Bitcoin was introduced to distract people from gold.
This is the sad sort of thing about this world that we live in is the government and the financial system, like they don't want us to become wealthy. Oh, why? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no , no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no He, his conclusion was that there was this thing called regulatory capture, where they were trying to harm the value of the asset, which would cost retail investors money.
So if I had a bunch of XRP that I bought at a certain amount, and the price goes down, like, you've harmed my portfolio. And there was deception and dishonesty going on about what was this case really about? So he sort of concluded that they're trying to take this asset by forcing us to sell by by having this sort of dark cloud hanging over us. So he made a counter move, like in chess, saying, All right, if you want to take it, fine, no problem, $35,000 a token, basically calling them out on this.
And it was written in legal, legal jargon. It was a document that is intended to be discussed among lawyers, but of course, everyone could read it. And a lot of people did not really understand what this document said. There was even some sort of, like, humor in there, where he was kind of joking around with them, if you knew they, that they sell favors, and that there's corruption with the system. And he was just calling that out.
But the machine that wanted to shut him down, kind of started to accuse him of things, accused him of being this grifter and this scammer. And he's like, Wait a minute, all I did was write a document and try to call out the SEC for their, their nefarious behavior. And he, of anybody, Jimmy took the most heat for any of it by far. And a lot of character attacks, a lot of attacks on his integrity and his, his value system, which, you know, does not, no one wants to have that.
And it, it was sort of this idea, like, if no one really cared, and he wasn't right, then it would have just been ignored. But the fact that it got so much attention and heat, it's like, Hmm, I think he's on to something. And we then, you know, the lawsuit has been resolved, and many notes have come out. We have found out these, these sleuths in the crypto space have uncovered a lot of paper trail and this whole Eastgate scandal that the banking cartel colluded to slow down Ripple so that they could create their own system in the global payments rail.
And they, there were some entities in China that were involved. And there was this covert, I mean, this concerted action to use the SEC as a weapon, which is totally illegal, unethical in every way, like, you're not supposed to do that. The government is supposed to be there to honor the values that the SEC was created on, which was not to protect the monopoly from losing their market share. And that is what the theory was early on.
And it's become sort of validated with the evidence that we have. But we still don't see anyone held accountable. We don't see Congress talking about it. We don't even see the media talking about it. So this is where I feel like that whole kind of system that we refer to as the US government, I now just call them the organized crime syndicate, because that's what they are. They don't have honor and integrity. So I'm not going to respect anymore.
Absolutely. Are you are you still working with Jimmy then? I thought I thought I heard that you were working for Val Hill Capital. So that's great. Good for you. And we were not really worrying about much XRP stuff at this moment, because our our work to create this valuation paper was published, although we act, that's actually totally not true. We approached some universities to sort of take that research to the next level. And actually, my alma mater, Cornell, one of their grad schools has take accepted us into one of their grad school programs.
So they're going to have six different grad students take the models that we built and sort of elaborate on and maybe build a new model, blow out the paper and just kind of give us some academic perspective on that work. So the valuation model will continue to grow or whatever. I don't know what's gonna happen with that. It sort of starts at the end of this month. But our focus also is on we do consulting for businesses, generally focused on the blockchain.
And so we're kind of looking forward to what will the next financial system be like, what will this world be like after we transition? And how can we help businesses prepare for this migration to the blockchain? If you don't mind, I'd kind of like to just take a little pivot here, and go to something that you had mentioned in your last video that resonated with me quite a bit, talking about our debt based system. So in essence, you get a mortgage, we create more money, put it into the financial system.
And I wholeheartedly agree with you that we don't want to be in debt. But otherwise, you if you're in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're going to be in debt, you're in prison.
Being debt free is pretty cool, very liberating. But one of the things that I didn't hear the discussion about, and I do believe that you believe in this as well, is that there are rules of the game. So we're, in other words, we have this new financial system we're going into, the creators of the system are unknown to the rest of us, just like the existing system we're coming out of, there are rules of the game was set up, Jekyll Island.
So our debt-based system, being that the rules were set by the owners of the game, kind of like football, baseball, that type of thing, on how to get out of debt. So if you do get into trouble, I think the message for our viewers to listen to is that there are tools out there for you to get out of trouble. And they're tools written and they are in the laws. And if you have to use some of those tools, consider them a personal business decision.
We have businesses all over the world who use bankruptcy laws, they go and they reorganize themselves, and nothing happens to them. They just go on business as usual. They don't blink an eye, they're not going home crying at night. But personally, if one of us as an individual need to use a any of these tools to rectify a situation, and I'm not in favor of like, Hey, I got a credit card, let's go party it up and run it off and, and not pay for the things that we bought.
But there are things that do happen in life, medical catastrophes, things that are just out of our control, that it would behoove us to know what those tools are, so that we can use them to get out of this debt-based system so that we're not further indebted to it. So what's your thoughts on that? Through a lot of my recent work around beliefs is coming in. So we will often get into a situation where you're like, I'm so in debt, I believe the only option I have is to file bankruptcy, right? Belief that that could be a limiting belief, you could have far more.
Right. And it kind of comes back to this fact that the fiat money was created out of nothing. There's this perception of debt, like, but how can I be indebted to you when you gave me something you made up, like, literally created it electronically on your computer one day. And it's the biggest rack. I mean, it's the most brilliant scheme in the history of the world. I'm going to make up money, give it to you. And then you've got to pay me interest when you pay me back.
Like, brilliant. At a set inflation rate. Once you figure it out, you're like, are you freaking kidding me? That's what goes back to my point that if you do need to use a tool, and there are many besides bankruptcy, I'm just keying in on that one. Because from my background of being in the real estate industry, you know, for 30 some odd years or so, I helped a lot of people through the foreclosure market and so forth.
And, and what I saw, there were other ways and people just having to lose their home in foreclosure, or file bankruptcy. But what I would walk into is a home where people are not opening their mail because they're so traumatized to even look at their own situation, because we've been conditions like, it's bad, you know, you've done this, and and they just get paralyzed, they can't do anything. It's like, I come walking in and say, we need to open up your mail, let's find out what's going on here.
And they start finding out a way to help these people move forward. And sometimes they do need to file bankruptcy. Sometimes they need to push the foreclosure process to a point to where they get some resolution and maybe can short sale out their home or whatever the case is, get a modification before that last thing actually happens, you know, the, the the nuclear option, which is, in my view, never the best option. But there are other tools out there.
And some people just think, you know, hey, I'm not making my payment on my house, I'm going to lose it, they got the mindset, and then they're going off and feeling guilty and all of that about that. It's like, we can, we can work around that there's tools out there. But you got to know the rules of the game, because these rules were set up by the people that created this fantasy system we're in. They created the rules for themselves.
They created the rules, but there's no one that says we have to follow those rules. That's correct. The only thing though, Molly, is that the traumatizing thing that we do is that if we don't take certain steps of being in this game, we get maybe railroaded by the idea, you're going to lose your credit, your credits going to be shot, you're just not going to be able to function, you're not going to be able to buy a car, you're not going to be able to do these things.
It's like, that's just not true. Those are beliefs. They are absolutely beliefs. Why couldn't you choose to believe, like, you know what, this debt is invalid, I'm going to get this debt canceled. Absolutely. I'm not about bankruptcy, I'm not playing in your little game of, like, your rules where now there's consequences for me and I can't ever, you know, participate, I can't open a business or do whatever the consequences are for filing bankruptcy. Why can't you just decide that the path forward for you is that this debt is unjust and it's going to be removed via some sort of debt forgiveness, debt jubilee type thing? Who's to say that that belief is any less correct than the belief that bankruptcy is your only option? This is where the pressure of the mind is so big.
Like, you can have anything you want. And when you truly believe you can have anything you want, opportunities and options become presented to you. And a way out of something like a debt that looks, like, hopeless, well, it's hopeless because you believe it's hopeless. What if you see that this is a part of a game, you're in a video game, and you have this obstacle that's come around, and you know that there's these magic tools that you can pull out of the sky.
One of which could be, I'm going to have this debt to just cancel. That's happening. I've heard many instances of it. And sometimes it will require you to be creative, look for an opportunity where you might have otherwise said, decided that there isn't one. The options will be presented when you look. Yeah. Exactly. I think what you're saying is really what I'm saying, too, is that there are other options. If we just sit there and we're dead in the water because we're so demoralized by our situation, well, we're not going to be able to get ourselves out of it.
You have to have a belief that you're going to come out ahead, and you're going to find the right tools that are going to work for you. Don't stop looking. Keep working. Keep learning. It also helps me tremendously to truly believe that there is a God or a higher power. Oh, absolutely. That's in my corner rooting for me, and that will help me find those opportunities so I don't feel like I'm going through all of this alone in the dark.
How could all of this that's been going on in our world? It's so beyond human in my view that we need to have a little divine intervention. We are living in incredible times, and I am thankful to be alive at this time. It is an incredible time. All of the exciting things that are coming, you have the financial transformation that's coming, all of the new technology. While it's not really new, but it's going to be new to the public.
All of those things could make a huge difference for the better in the future. I do notice that now there's a lot of fear, uncertainty, and doubt being spread around these technologies. In my opinion, some of it is intentional problem reaction solutions so that they create a problem and they scare the public so that they could come in and regulate and have the public demand that they fix this problem or whatever, because many of these people haven't even looked into anything to do with this technology, whether it be the blockchain and cryptocurrencies and all these other things.
They paralyze people through fear, like they do with the credit system and everything else. They're doing the same thing. I think it's highly organized. You've got your players laying in wait, or they'll have their audiences come along for the ride with them, and then all of a sudden they do a 180. I'm seeing that all over the place. One thing that struck me about your last video is the promise for the future and what you think that the future of the financial system is going to look like.
It sounds like you think it's going to be pretty exciting. I wanted your thoughts on that. Where do you think we're headed with all of this? If you go back to the Jekyll Island book, the current system that we have in place actually predates the Federal Reserve. It goes back to Europe hundreds of years ago. It's a banking system that has been very manipulative and wants to keep people in debt. The way they've structured things is through corporations.
The major corporation is the City of London. Every nation is a subsidiary of the City of London, including the Corporation of the United States, which was founded in 1871. It's been in this sort of bizarre thing for a long time. None of us knew this. Then this stuff comes out that we are collateral assets of the corporation and people have been trading my birth certificate to take out loans and all these sort of nefarious things that when you find that out, you're like, this is so weird.
You try to tell somebody, they're like, whatever. You're like, no, really. I am so glad you're going here. I am in complete alignment with you on that. There's even these other loans that have been taken out, quadrillions of dollars as a sort of North American water and power alliance thing. You kind of find out that they've been manipulating this system for their own profit. We're finding out about it. These sort of things in the shadows are being brought into the light.
I'm very, very optimistic that this corporation has already been neutralized, removed from power, filed bankruptcy, and that the players who have been leading that will not be a part of our next financial system. It's going to be almost unrecognizable for all of us. I like to use the analogy that we have lived in prison our whole life and that we've played games in prison. I had a job where I made pictures and traded for cigarettes to go buy M&Ms at the prison store.
We had meatloaf on Tuesdays and tacos on Wednesdays. That was our whole world view. Then one day someone comes along and is like, hey, you're getting out of prison. We're like, cool, but we realize when you get out, you're like, I have no idea what to do. When we are removed from this world of debt-based money and many people are slaves to jobs and slaves to a mortgage and a rent payment, imagine if that all went away.
You could literally do whatever you wanted. Some people are just going to be stunned for a while and they're like, I don't know what to do. I've worked so hard my whole life. If you take away that obligation, I don't know what I would do with myself. It's going to be the most beautiful time in history because people are going to find projects that align with their value system and find ways to serve their community and make beautiful art and hang out with their kids and do all these things that I think humans were designed to enjoy and feel purpose and not be stuck in some crappy factory job that is back-breaking and exhausting.
It's going to be pretty cool. I'm a believer in Nisara, which is essentially the return of the money that has been stolen from us via taxation for centuries and the banking cartel, the elites, whatever, they have been hoarding this gold from us and that gold has been seized and will be used to back a new monetary system and we will be given royalty payments, which is essentially paying back the money that was stolen. It's not like people are just giving us money for no reason.
It's like our ancestors and ourselves worked very hard to pay taxes into a corrupt organized crime system that is being dismantled and the money will be returned to us. Woo-hoo, reparations. Yeah, and that's funny because people often have a negative viewpoint on that that's almost treated like welfare, like people are giving you something that you don't deserve. But if you have been stealing for me and my family for centuries and those assets are now available, of course they should be returned to their rightful owners.
Absolutely. And reparations, I think, is really tied to slavery in the black community that a century ago blacks were enslaved, which is horrible, and the reparations are to make up for that harm. But the Nisarra thing is bigger. It's like we've all been slaved. We've all been slaved in some format. It's not a racist thing. And I'm not in any way minimizing how horrible it would have been to be a black slave in the United States in the 1700s, 1800s.
But to think that we don't have slavery now is naive. We're all slaves, actually. We just don't know it or people don't realize it. But when you start thinking about the creation of money and the debt-based system and just the whole manipulation that they do with the economy, all of it's bullshit. And once you realize that, you're like, wow, this is not cool. I need to stop worrying about these things and push my life into a different direction.
And it does come into the mindset thing until all this comes into fruition where we do have the forgiveness and all of that sort of thing. And it sounds like you've followed I don't remember who the lady is that was interviewed recently talking about the gold that was given back or taken back for the United States. Was that the lady that was on Trump's transition team? She works with the Department of Defense. Right. She also did speak about corporation situation.
And I think that there was an executive order signed in 2018 or something like that where there was some movements to make that happen. Yeah, I think Trump put a lot of measures in place, including rolling the bed up into the Treasury. So that was no longer. That was significant. These are all little things that most people didn't pick up on. And I think that's another reason why you resonated with me because there's certain people that I know know that have been following and I'm somebody that I've been following this stuff for years and I've got a little piece here and a little piece here and a little piece here and I'm like trying to put it all together because I know it's all together.
It's all connected. And so it's a pleasure to meet other people that are seeing the same thing. And that can actually explain it better than I can. Well, the whole notion about the United States Corporation, I'm in California, the State of California Corporation. I mean, every city, municipality is a municipal corporation or a charter corporation, a charter city. They all run under UCC codes. I mean, if you can't see this, I mean, sure, it took time before you become awake to this, but once you are awakened to it, it's like, wow, you can actually review the documents yourself and if you start looking at how society runs, it runs all under a fee-based system.
If you go to court, like a traffic court, for instance, you're going to be there to pay a fee. There's no jury trial. So there's a distinction on how our form of government runs and it's quite an eye-opening experience and I am very excited about the future to see all of this existing system get replaced with something else. I really do like to look at this as a metaverse video game because it helps me to be objective.
That's great. And this metaverse video game has an incredibly detailed backstory of these nefarious actors who worship Satan and do horrible things to children. It's like the craziest story you could have ever come up with and part of their religion is this concept called revelation of the method where they are required for karmic reasons to share their plan. They just do it kind of subtly and covertly so within the game all the clues that you need have been present the whole time if you are just willing to look for them.
Right. It's what makes this kind of fun and why I really do think it is a game because it's like in a game where you click on a little button and like a magic scroll of backstory, helpful information appears. These are present on the internet. The World Economic Forum I think is a character in this movie that is revealing their plans for us all along so if you are paying attention, there are no surprises because they have been telling us what the plan is of that team in this game but I'm a big believer of the hero's journey.
I've studied it for marketing. I've taught it and we are the hero in this story and of course you got to have a bad guy who comes along and presents us with obstacles so that we as humanity can rise up, overcome these obstacles and emerge as better versions of ourselves living the kind of great happy utopian life at the end. That's why every Hollywood movie has prepared us for this journey. We are going to win. I have no doubt and it's going to be glorious and the bad guys are going to lose just like we see in every cheesy formulaic Hollywood movie.
That's why I know that there is a lot of fear and this morning I was even reading some stuff that people are nervous about a new pandemic coming out next month and I'm like, it's part of the plot. They're trying to suck you in. You don't have to fall for it. It's even on schedule. To me, the best way to disarm fear is to laugh at it. The more we make fun of these efforts, the less power they have over any of us.
You know when they say you're watching a movie? I'm like, we are the freaking movie. We're in the movie. We can choose the characters that we decide to play. You want to have an interview with Molly Elmore? You just reach out and say, can we interview you? That's how I've been navigating when we first started Beyond the Brink. I'm thinking, how am I going to get people that I want to interview? We're just reaching out to people.
They're like, absolutely. I'm like, this is super cool. You can do whatever you want to do. You just have to put your mind to it and you have to have that positive thinking and all the good people, all the people that resonate with you will come to you. We're all working off of one another and I just keep thinking the more that we spread the positivity and we give this is one thing I wanted to talk to you about because you had said something about you used to be a hardcore truther trying to get people to wake up.
I want to say this to my family. Anybody, if you actually do decide to watch one of my videos, I appreciate it. Everybody wakes up in their own time. I'm not trying to press my thoughts on anyone. I love everybody and if I offended anybody by trying to wake you up, I apologize. There's some pretty heavy stuff going on and if you search to look for it, you will find it. With that, I wanted to say to Molly, she had said she tried for quite some time to wake people up and then you just realize everyone has their timeline and when they're ready to acknowledge certain things then they will.
Can you elaborate a little bit more on your pivot from that and your realization as you evolved over time where you're at now with that? I think that part of the awakening process is to take the red pill and you are made aware of a lot of hard and difficult and upsetting truths about the financial system, about the organized crime, about the harm against children, even other darker stuff and once you know that stuff though, you're given a choice.
You can stay in that place and be reminded daily of all these very low vibration activities and you're going to be in a place of anger, shock, outrage or what it took me a while to do is to move through that stage and say, okay, what is after that? I'm now focused on the future. What is this new world going to look like? It's going to be filled with beautiful things like love and compassion and empathy.
Why don't I want to spend my time in those emotions? So I had to distance myself from even some good friends who were very active in the truther world wanting to talk about these things like, okay, I'm going to be outraged against the banking system and they're evil and they do all these terrible things and I'm like, that is true but if I spend my time thinking about that and talking about that all the time how am I going to be building my version of the future because I'm stuck in the past.
Now, I don't want to sound like I'm being judgmental or critical of others who I think their role is to be truthers. I was just kind of tapped on the shoulder by my self saying, okay, your job now is to be on the other side of this and start to prepare what this world will look like so that when everybody else comes along you'd be like, hey, thanks for coming we've been building all these things and we're all ready for you now.
We have a new money system we have a new way of doing business I have new marketing tools for you so I'm kind of part of the group that I feel is being tasked with spending our time on the other side which meant I had to stop consuming all the dark truther stuff. I have some friends like that. I know that's their role. They're good at it and they can stay there in that energy without it bringing them down.
For me, I need to be in a high vibration place with other very optimistic people so that I can be creating and building things for this new world. I like it. I love it. That actually that's why I think everybody is in different stages and like you say you can't do two things at once you can't focus your energy really focus your energy into two things and so when you are diving into these truths and connecting dots it is taxing emotionally some of the things that I've seen I wish that I hadn't I wish I didn't it cemented it even more that I was on the right path and so I too feel like I still want to share things share the truth but how can we share them in a positive light like with what you're saying what we're building for the future where we're going we do need to understand where we came from and I think money is the root of it all and so once you start learning about money where money actually came from and what it actually is that is like the biggest thing that people need to understand really and I mean that's not so dark as some of this other stuff that we all here know are aware of but yeah I just I'm thinking that and I'm kind of I want to share as much as I know and I want to share it in an optimistic light Christy has a wonderful idea that she's putting into place do you want to tell her about that as far as your site where you're bringing people together that are making a difference and doing things and it's shining a light on things that people can do to make a difference and then putting a place for them to come together in order to do that yeah I want to share one comment that I think we all relate to what we're doing right now what we're talking about is that in the fourth turning I think our age group would reveal that we're in the profit we're the profits and then there's the heroes which are going to be the millennials and isn't it interesting I have a millennial daughter who we lock horns don't see eye to eye on things but then yet now we're having this awakening together and we're uniting on ideas and so I just think that this is amazing so coming into this project that working on locally was not going to sit on my laurels I'm going to get involved in my local government I'm going to start learning what is going on I want to know what's going on with the school boards everything else joined whatever open office was not filled I went and took a position so I understand local government and so from all of this came the conclusion and through just that type of thing coming to YouTube and so forth was having a collaboration site I can't gather all this information on my own and I don't want to it would just break you down but creating a website a portal if you will where everybody is doing their own things they're all part of this movement this awakening movement and they've plugged themselves into places where they don't think they need to be and so I'm collating and gathering their information their reporting the only rule is no opinion this is not editorial just report the facts put them out there so that people can verify on their own and it goes to a website and it's all local information with some national stuff in there but this is what's going on locally from the people who are on the ground things that you're not going to hear from mainstream media it's not the prescribed story that they want us to hear this is everything else that's going on and so that's what we're doing it's really cool I have no doubt that they're just the propaganda arm they are they're part of the I think you've seen the public-private pyramid the world hierarchy where you have the policy makers and the distributors and the enforcers the propagandists and then us plebs so here we are and I'm beyond the stage where I'm mad about any of it it's a very cleverly designed game and we're navigating through it it would be boring if everything was easy and there was no obstacles I have an esoteric belief on life which is that we are souls who for a variety of reasons chose to incarnate as humans and live out this human experience and many of us wanted to live the good, the bad, and the ugly we wanted to feel the depth of the emotions including grief, and shame, and guilt and all these low-vibration things that we as humans I would like to avoid those things at all costs if you have this opportunity to live this life, to really live it fully you've got to go through the whole spectrum of it you have to see problems and drama so that you can rise above it and emerge as an empathetic, compassionate version of you if you've ever had the unfortunate experience to know someone that's very shallow that's usually because they haven't really been through very much because when you go through very difficult situations, it kind of creates a depth of character and these dark things that you've gone through often end up becoming blessings in terms of your ability to really empathize and have compassion for others so I think we actually wanted these difficult things for us so that we could learn from them and become more emotionally intelligent That's beautiful We've got about a minute left before we have to roll up the show What final parting comments would you like to tell our viewers? We've lived in this world that has been controlled by fear for a very long time.
There's fear around money, like I don't have enough, I'm not good enough this idea of competition, that in order for me to succeed somebody else has to lose. That's the entire fear-based system. You can make the choice to not participate in that and the alternative is this sort of love-based system, which sounds kind of zappy a little bit, but it's really just about treating everybody like you would treat the people in your life that you love and make decisions from that vibration and imagine how amazing the world would be if everybody decided to do that and left the whole fear thing behind and moved forward to this very positive thing I think that's what's ahead for us and we can all choose to start doing that now if we want to That's amazing I love that.
As we wrap up, can you tell our viewers how they can get a hold of you if they'd like to follow your work, what's your social coordinates? Sure. The best thing to do is follow me on Twitter it's at MollyElmore22 Be careful, there are quite a few fake accounts they swap like an L for an I, so it looks like me, but it's not I'm never going to DM you, sending you a trying to sell some scammy trading course.
I don't do trading so just keep an eye out for that I also have a YouTube channel which is under Molly Elmore and Clever Hummingbird and for my business stuff with Jimmy we have a podcast called Escape Velocity on YouTube as well but we haven't been doing a whole lot with that lately That's amazing We want to thank you very much for being here today It has been a wonderful conversation We'd love to have you back sometime if you'd like to come back.
Sure, I would be happy to Reach out whenever you'd like to do that Thank you Appreciate it Molly, it was a pleasure meeting you and having some time with you today Alright, take care You too, take care Bye-bye Bye-bye