Horror for the Holidays

Amy and Rachel are two millennials who love all things creepy and spooky, including true crime and spirits. They discuss horror for the holidays and share a recipe for boozy hot chocolate. They then talk about Gryla, the Christmas Witch, who lives in Iceland and is known for snatching misbehaving children and turning them into stew. Gryla is part of a family of strange creatures, including the Yule Lads, who visit Icelandic households and cause mischief. They also mention the Yule Cat, who eats anyone not wearing new clothes. Hello, I'm Amy, and I'm Rachel, and we're just two Millennials who share a passion for the creepy and the spooky, harbor a true love for true crime, and share our favorite spirits. So sit back and have a cocktail with the two creepy ghouls. That was a good one. Merry Christmas and happy holidays. Merry Christmas and happy holidays indeed. Indubitably. I know. So what's our story, or theme, I guess? Our theme for today will be horror for the holidays. Ah, yes. Amy's favorite. Yes. It's that time of year where snowmen are out there, snow is falling, mistletoe is hung, as well as Krampus and Kryla the Christmas Witch are running amok with Saint Nick. Yep. So to start us off with that, that's going to be a tidbit of what our topic is about today. I also wanted to kind of go over our beverage, which I have a couple of options, actually, but the star of the show today will be the boozy hot chocolate. Yes. Spiked hot chocolate. Yes. That sounds amazing. So the way I was looking at different recipes, and there's like one article I read had like multiple kinds, but I mean it was more intensive, like melting the chocolate and making your homemade hot chocolate. I'm keeping it short and sweet and easy for all of us who are just too busy with the holidays to really focus on purchasing all that. So I would say this is just make, prepare your hot chocolate for you however you like to do it, and I would recommend if you wanted to make it extra sweet, melt down some semi-sweet chocolate to add to it. I just put like a few tablespoons because I'm just doing a recipe like making for one. So heat that up, melt it down, add that to your hot chocolate just to make it extra chocolatier. I personally would put a shot of bourbon whiskey or peppermint schnapps in your hot chocolate. Peppermint schnapps sounds amazing. Peppermint schnapps. Schnapps. And then add maybe a splash of vanilla. I think especially if you have to go with the bourbon whiskey way. I don't know if it would mesh too well with the peppermint schnapps. And then I would add even a pinch of salt just to kind of give it a little... Oh yeah. I love a little salt in my sweet. Yeah. Yeah. Salt in chocolate actually goes well. Very well. I love sea salt in chocolate. Yeah. And I even like, even if you make like chocolate milk, like putting a little sea salt in it. Yeah. I got that from Modern Family and I actually tried it and it was nice. It was nice. And then, of course, top it with lots of marshmallows and if you're going the peppermint route, maybe crush some peppermints on top of it or use that to stir in your hot chocolate. But that's my boozy hot chocolate. I love it. And also I was going to say, originally I was going to do a spiked eggnog. Yeah. I'm one of those people though, I have one glass of eggnog a year and I'm done. Yeah. One and done. One and done. It's pretty rich. Right. It's like the pumpkin spice latte. You have one for the year. And then you're good. Yeah. It's like the whole thing of it. But I am going to say, I once worked with a girl who was Puerto Rican and she goes, instead of doing like bourbon or whiskey, she did rum. I'm not a big rum person, so I'll stick with the bourbon. So yeah, you could stick with bourbon. Absolutely. But if you're wanting to try like a different, something a different route with eggnog, you could always add a nice rum to it to give it kind of a more different vibe. Actually, I think that is what people put in spiked eggnog, right? Usually it's the rum. Well, growing up, I think my parents always did like bourbon. I was going to say, it's from where we're from. Yeah. It would be bourbon or whiskey. It would be bourbon or whiskey. But I think maybe more south they would go with rum. Yeah. Somewhere else. Yeah. Like in a warmer climate, like Florida or something. Florida. That's just where my head went. Yeah. As one does. But yeah, because that's another vibe that you can do. So if you're feeling something more cold and not hot chocolate-y, go with a nice eggnog or have a boozy hot chocolate. I love it. And to get us started today, do you want to start with telling us about Gryla the Christmas Witch? I can. Absolutely. Please do. All right. So I'd never heard about this creature, this thing, until we started doing this and I love it. So, while Krampus may be the king of holiday scares, his fans may be overlooking an equally formidable queen, a Christmas monster who lives further north in the frigid climate of Iceland, who goes by the name of Gryla. What a great name. That is pretty. Gryla the Christmas Witch. Let me preface that. I like it. Excuse me. This tough ogre lives in a cave in Iceland's Hinterlands, which I just love that word in general. The Hinterlands. Yeah. Gryla is the patriarch of a family of strange creatures, which I'll get into later, launching attacks on nearby townships, snatching up misbehaving children and turning them into delicious stew. Not cookies. Not cookies. Okay. Continue. She's been known about since roughly the 13th century, so a long ass time, when tales of her exploits spread via obviously word of mouth back then. The name Gryla translates to growler. Growler. Making her even scarier. A Smithsonian quotes a historic passage about the tinsel-hating troll. Quote, down comes Gryla from the outer fields with 40 tails, a bag on her back, a sword in her hand, coming to carve out the stomachs of the children who cry for meat during Lent. Certainly a little contrast as sleigh bells are ringing. Are you listening? But I'm pretty sure in the Icelandic tongue it may rhyme, but who knows? Okay. But here's what's interesting. She didn't become associated with Christmas until several centuries later, I believe the 17th or 18th century, when the idea of rampaging witch-punishing naughty children fused with the Yuletide atmosphere. Yule, J-O apostrophe over the O-L, Yule is the title often given to an Icelandic Christmas. Which I thought was pretty interesting. This ancient take on the festival as a time, like Christmas, as a time not only to bring together relatives, living and deceased, but also elves, trolls, and other magical and spooky creatures believed to inhabit the landscape. Fun, fun. Gryla definitely fits into that category. She's called an ogre by some, though presumably not to her face. Speaking of her face, have you seen pictures or drawings of her? I think I'm... No, not really. Speaking of her face, what exactly does she look like? Yeah. Well, accounts... You guys didn't look her up. She looks like an ugly ogre. Yeah. Accounts such as they are, they vary. One rhyme says she has 15 tails, each of which holds 100 bags with 20 children in each bag, doomed to be a feast for the troll's family. Some poems describe the eyes in the back of her head, ears that hang so long that they hit her in the nose, a matted beard, blackened teeth, and hooves. So you wouldn't forget her if you saw her. Just an ugly looking witch. And troll. Yeah. Yeah, the one image I see, the first one that came up is she's eating a bebe. Yep. And the seasonal savage is really so different to the mortal she preys on. There's a case that she isn't, like she's a human, as evidenced by her family. For starters, someone actually agreed to marry her. She comes down from her cave in the mountains to gather up ill-behaved kids for her and her lazy and browbeaten husband, Leopold, to make into stew. And Leopold wasn't the only man to slide a ring onto her finger. She ate one of her husband's when she got bored with him, reveals somebody who works at the University of Iceland. As the tale goes. Then of course there are, yeah, that's a great picture of her. That's actually a cute Christmas card. Will you say that and send that to me? On it. There are the Yule Lads. Have you heard of them? Only because I watched a show that I know you're going to. Okay. I will not talk about it. This bizarre band of brothers existed in their own right to begin with. Gradually, however, they were incorporated into Gryla's legend to form a clan of children catchers and festive buzz killers. Think of them as looking like age-held angels without bikes. Okay. All right. Rad. Other bits of folklore describe a second troll-like husband and a giant man-eating cat, or a giant man-eating Yule Cat, known to target anybody who doesn't have on new clothes, making a new pair of socks or long underwear an imperative for any Icelandic holiday shopper. In Iceland, his name is Jólakarturinn, which I know I butchered, I'm so sorry, which essentially translates to Yule Cat. So what do new clothes have to do with the Yule Cat? Well, as I just said, yep, that's disgusting, he will eat you if you're wearing old clothes. Okay, that's a little... Well, according to writer Jeff Spellinger in his new book, The Fright Before Christmas, which that sounds like an amazing book, this practice might have originated with the farmers who would urge their workers to get all the autumn wool spun by Christmas, else the Yule Cat would eat them. This would obviously ensure the workers, the work was done in good time. Sorry. Alright, so filling out this highly dysfunctional family are Gryla's mob of large adult sons, the 13 Yule Lads. Okay. Each of these troublemakers visit Icelandic household on specific days throughout December, unleashing their individual types of pestering, which I love. So they all have like a different way of pestering? Yes. Okay. The Yule Lads begin invading Iceland on December 12th, so we would be... What's today's date? The 17th? Yep. 12, 13, 14, 15. The fifth lad would be today. 13 days before Christmas and hang around until Christmas Day. Each day, one Yule Lad comes down from his home in the mountains to watch and loom about a homestead or in the city streets. They are also trollish looking and they all take on mischievous, if not downright disturbing roles, like one named Window Peeper. Yes, he looks through windows at the unsuspecting people inside. The rest of the Yule Lads don't seem much easier to tolerate with their names like Stubby, Julie Dock, Door Slammer, and Pot Scraper. And yes, there's even one named Skirt Blower, and you can guess what that guy's up to. Oh my goodness. So here's some names. So, Haraska Killer is the one who's partial to slamming doors. That's literally what he does. He slams fucking doors. That would be me. That would be me. The Pot of Ska-Phil eats any leftovers from pots and pans. Also me. And then Bajur, I can't even pronounce his name, lives up to his nickname as Sausage Swiper. I guess he takes all the sausage. Anyway, like mischievous things like that. That would be you. That's you every time there's sausage on a pizza. I love sausage on a pizza. The Yule Lads cause mischief, but in modern times encourage revelry in the Yuletide season. Today it's believed that if the children are bad, the Yule Lads will give them a potato, raw or rotting. And if the children are good, they will receive a gift from each of the 13 Yule Swans. Swains. Swans. I don't know. Swines. Swines. Swines. Replacing Santa even further, today's Yule Lads will leave these small gifts in children's shoes. And I've heard of that in like a... Yeah, I've heard of that. Yeah. Maybe it's just me, but if I'd grown up in Iceland, I'd be certain to do what I was told all year long just on the safe side. Because they only did this to bad kids, right? Or was it all children? No, no. Just bad. Misbehaving children. Okay. Well, okay. Please note, it's traditional to leave an offering of leaf bread on the windowsills for the Yule Lads to appease them. So you can bribe them, I guess. Prior to being associated with Christmas, really a personification of the winter grilo was really a personification of the winter and the darkness and snow getting closer and taking over the land, because we're in Iceland. Not only did she represent the threat of winter, she was seen actually controlling the landscape. A researcher explains that the Icelandic people understood themselves to be more like tenants of their harsh environment, where glaciers, volcanoes, and earthquakes dominate, and would view mythical creatures like grilo as the ones who were really running the show. Krampus only wishes he had so much power. Okay. All right. So that's kind of like how her story came about. So she first came about because of the harsh winters, and like seeing, viewing as like, oh, she really controls the land. And then she came incorporated with Christmas, and then we had the husband, the cat, and the 13-year-old lads who had their own story, but then they got absorbed into hers, and now they're all part of Christmas. Like, if you misbehave, Grilo and her kids will come after you. And the cat, if you don't have new shoes or new clothing. Wow. And so the story still goes on about that. That's a big thing in Iceland. So why have we heard of her? I don't know. That's a great question. Because the only place we can find, or I could find, that she's been represented was in an episode of Netflix's The Chilling Adventure of Sabrina, which we all know that they kind of did a different take on stories. They did, yeah. So, for instance, Grilo in this episode is presented as a powerful witch who protects mistreated children and not a monster who's intent on devouring them. But she is depicted in statues and Christmas installations all over Iceland, even at airports. But in many cases, she retains at least a little bit of her scary vibe. So I guess they give her a little bit more of a menace to her. Yeah, yeah. And I wish there was a good movie about her, because I'd be interested. I wonder if they have any Iceland stuff, Iceland movies or anything. I'll look it up. I'm not sure if they would or not. But that would be interesting. And I think your thing, you'd be more afraid of the cat than her. I would be terrified of that cat. Because I know that you are not a cat person. I'm not a cat person. So that's why I was like, well, we both know it. There's literally one from 2016 called Grila. And it's a short film. Okay. A man finds himself mistakenly taken hostage by a troll-sized debt collector and driven into the mountains. Things go from bad to worse. I would watch that. I know you would. I would watch that. I have one film for Krampus that I love and I watch every year. I've actually watched it a few times this year. Because you can stream it on Peacock for free. They are not sponsoring us. But if they would like to, we would definitely be open to discussing it. Anyway, but I'll get more into that when we're at the end of my little spiel. Okay. So I am doing Krampus. And I think we've all heard of him. I've heard of him. And he is the popular legend of a half-goat, half-demon that punishes misbehaving children at Christmas time. He is the devilish companion of St. Nicholas, who is believed to have originated in Germany. His name derives from the word crampon, which means claw. Oh, okay. And I heard crampon. I was like, oh, like a period. Like I'm on my crampon. I'm crampon. I'm crampon. I'm just cramping down. Give me some ibuprofen. I'm crampon at claw. I know. A little inappropriate joke there. But Krampus was believed to have been a part of pagan rituals for the winter solstice. According to legend, he is the son of Hel, H-E-L, a Norse god of the underworld. And with the spread of Christianity, Krampus became associated with Christmas. The creature and St. Nicholas are said to have arrived on the evening of December 5th, Krampusnacht, Krampus Night. While old St. Nicholas rewards nice children and lays presents, I think I mentioned he did a lot of fruits, nuts, little toys. That was his thing. And so that he would reward all the nice children and leave them presents such as that. And Krampus beats those who have been naughty with branches and sticks. In some cases, he may eat them or take them to the underworld. On December 6th, children awake to gifts or to injury. Or in the underworld. So that was a little lesson there. And there are many festivities involving our long-tongued and horned monster include Krampuslauf, Krampusrun, and many parades. In this activity, though, people dress as the creature parading through the streets, scaring and chasing spectators. And it's funny because I've seen many TikToks. I think we all have. And there were these tourists. They were there celebrating. And then this one guy was chasing them even into their hotel. And they were like, oh, my God, he's coming. And they were laughing and just running to the hotel room as fast as possible. And it was just really funny because everybody is into it. That's actually one of my bucket list things now is I would love to go to Austria or Germany during this time and see a Krampus parade. And I think it would be very fun. I bet you would love it. I think I would, too. Especially if I had a beer in my hand and I'm running away. And so this is popular in Germany and Austria. Also, alcohol is typically involved, too. So, hey, I would fit right in. You're ready to go. I would pack up and leave. Oh, I guess it's too late now. I got to go next year. Well, we'll have to plan for next year. So the legend was before Santa Claus, there was Saint Nicholas, the beloved folk hero of early Christianity who traveled across the world every December to give gifts to all the good children. The tale of Saint Nick was born of a real man, a bishop from the early first century who was known for his generosity, charity and gift giving, traveling with the countryside, keeping and spreading joy or helping to spread joy. Yeah. When he died on December 6th, this day marked with a festival of goodwill known as Saint Nicholas Day that continued for centuries and eventually evolved along with the pagan festival of Yule and Christmas we know today, which leads us to the dark company he kept. We're talking, of course, about Krampus. And as we said, this is kind of being a little repetitive, but he is a satire-like figure of ancient folklore who has terrorized Central Europe, accompanying Saint Nick on his travels and violently punishing the naughty children. And often portrayed as a devil-like figure with black or dark brown hair covering his body, cloven hooves, goat-like horns, razor-sharp fangs and a long, long tongue. Think James Simmons, seen from his mouth. For all the bad children, Krampus will whip you with a birch switch, or you will be stuffed into his old sack and earned away to his lair to be tortured and eaten. And his image has changed from goat-like to more devil-like, and this provides the message to all children, of course, to be good and to have around the holiday season. So be good around the holidays, do not misbehave. So, I mean, obviously, if I was a kid hearing this, I would be an angel. Yeah, you gotta do well, yeah. And it's all about, and so why they have Krampus is really, it's all about balance. Think the Yang and the Yang. You have Saint Nick who rewards, and then you have Krampus who punishes. Opposites, yeah. So it's kind of like that nice balance, if you will, to where you have during the holiday season. I like Krampus, and so I was going to tell you this, too. On my way to work, because we've had a lot of construction, and one of the main ways that I get to work in the morning has been shut down. So I've had to kind of maneuver a different route. And there's this house that has a life-size Krampus. Are you serious? They made it, and they set it by their door, and he has the switches in his hands, and a cape and everything. And I looked at it, and I went, those are good people. Yeah, you need to introduce yourself. I'm like, they're good people. But honestly, I want to get a little black tree now and have a little Krampus tree. You should. I think that would be good. I know. I'm trying to be good, but I'm like, so in my new house, I will probably have my forest tree, my Krampus slash old forest tree, and a little ghost on top of it or something. I love it. But I thought it was so precious. I couldn't really find an actual story. Oh, really? I was trying to look for an actual legend to read you guys about Krampus. I just came around with the main things that I'm telling you about how he punishes, there is Krampus enough. But it is a big, people do celebrate it. It's huge. And I was trying to look through this one site, and they were kind of going a little bit more. I went into the History Channel. I love getting stuff from the History Channel. I know. It's really interesting. So, but like a lot of pagan origins, you know, reward them on December 5th and 6th. Those are the big days. In some parts of, in Alpine Austria and some parts of Germany, this day was also known as Krapusnacht or Krampus night. And adults might dress up as Krampus to frighten children at their home, which, fuck else on the shelf. Yeah, I'll do that. So this is an idea for you as a soon-to-be mother. You need to be doing this. I'll do Krampus. You do Krampus. Okay, you got it. Fuck else on the shelf. That's overdone. Let's flip the script here. And, of course, they do run around the streets. The Krampus run, that's the biggest thing. In Austrian, men would get drunk and run through the streets dressed as a fearsome creature, like Krampusnacht. Or the Krampuslauf tradition continues to this day. They get drunk and run? Yeah. A way for a grown man to blow off steam while probably scaring kids. Yeah. So I think that would be, like, if you're having a bad day at work, and then you're like, listen, let's go out, like, go with your friends, we'll have a few drinks, we'll dress up, and we'll just scare the shit out of kids. I mean, it sounds like a dream come true, right? I would be into it. The introduction of mass visual media couldn't help but sweep the charismatic Krampus again in a way when the postcard industry experienced a boom in Germany and Austria in the 1890s. It opened a way for Krampuskarten. These holiday cards weren't mean to make you feel warm and fuzzy. Ones marked Gruss vom Krampus, greetings from Krampus, showed Krampus stuffing a distressed child into his satchel or preparing to hit home with a bundle of burnt sticks. Many of these postcards depicted Krampus going after children with these sticks, leading them away in chains, or carrying them off in his bag. If you Google Krampus, you'll see these cards. I think I sent one to you. I think you did. And there were some that were more adult. Krampus' cards from the early 20th century show him punishing children, yes, but also proposing to women. Aw, sweet. In some cards, Krampus is portrayed as a large woman whipping tiny men with their birch sticks and carrying them off in her satchel. In another, a smiling woman dangles a defeated-looking Krampus in the air, holding his bundle of birch sticks behind her back. You can draw on your own conclusions about the gender politics in these. And then, for over a century, most Americans probably never saw a Krampus card or even knew who Krampus was. And this changed in 2004 when art director and graphic designer Monte Bouchamp published a book of Krampus cards and helped organize an art show inspired by the cards. I was going to say, I thought Krampus has really boomed in the last 15 or 20 years. I think he has, too, because I didn't really, I don't know, it was like another podcast years ago where I heard about Krampus. And then, of course, I saw the 2015 movie with Tony Collette and Adam Scott, which is one of my recommendations. And that's the movie I watch every Christmas because it is, it's funny, it's by the same guy who did Trick or Treat. Oh, okay. Yeah, and so it kind of has that kind of vibe to it. Not with multiple stories, but there's some humor to it. There's a little horror. There's a little bit of everything. There's a moral lesson to it. So that's one of my recommendations. But, yeah, no, I feel especially with social media and these parades, it's really blowing up to where there's, like, sweaters now that you can get on Etsy. I mean, now he's really become a popular, almost like Santa Claus to this day. Yeah. He's huge. Because he is, yeah, so he's become very big. But I'm into it. I think it's fine. I think I like a little horror Christmas horror because before that, the only Christmas horror I thought about was Scrooge. You know, when he gets visited by the Gryffindors. Oh, yeah, yeah. So that was kind of like our horror. That's our horror. Relevant to the holidays. So now that we have him, even though he's been around for years and years, he's just really become more mainstream. Mainstream, yeah. Into our whole celebration of this time of year. Yeah. So I'm for it, of course. And I also have, I was going to say, for those who want probably more of a non-traditional Christmas movie. Yeah, give us some ideas. I've got some recommendations. I'm not talking about Die Hard, although if that's a Christmas movie to you, that is a Christmas movie to you. Okay. Do you consider it a Christmas movie? I like to think of them as unofficial Christmas movies. Okay. So Die Hard and Batman Returns. Okay. That one is set around Christmas. Okay. So I, of course, Krampus 2015, a boy who has had a bad Christmas accidentally summons a vested demon to his family. And then there's also Gremlins 1984. A young man inadvertently breaks three important rules concerning his new pet and unleashes terror on his town. That's so interesting. I never think about that as a Christmas movie. Yeah, I don't either. Because it does take part on or around that time. Mm-hmm. Violent Night, I watched this last year. I was going to say, I keep seeing that advertisement about Violent Night. But is he Krampus or what is he? No, he's David Harbour in Santa Claus. Oh. And when a group of mercenaries attack a wealthy estate, Santa Claus steps in the same day to save the day. Oh, my gosh. Have you seen it? Yeah, I watched it. It's very action-packed. I love David Harbour. That man came out of Iran. I know. You love him. A Better Watch Out 2016. Mm-hmm. This is on a quiet suburban street. A babysitter must defend a 12-year-old boy from intruders, but it's far from a normal home invasion. Of course it is. I've seen all of these. Yeah, that one is just trippy. Okay. You watch it thinking, this is going to happen, and then… And then something else happens. And you're just like, oh, my God. That's just one of those where I feel like… And I think you can stream all these on… Some platform. Some platforms. I mean, keep a look around. Okay. Whatever you use to stream, but those are some recommendations if you're looking for something out of the ordinary or… A spooky Christmas movie. Yeah, something with like a little thriller. What's your favorite? From this list? Yeah. Krampus. Krampus. It's so… I mean, you have demonic gingerbread men. Oh, that's hilarious. And it's just funny. And there's like an ornament I found on Etsy. So for my Krampus tree, it's just this like evil gingerbread man. Oh, my God. It's so funny. You have evil snowmen. You have the Es. You have a German grandmother who makes cookies all day, which who wouldn't want that? I don't know. That sounds like a dream come true. I know. So when you make your spiked hot cocoa later on tonight, kiddos, watch the episode of The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina with Gryla, and then pop on Krampus and just have a nice spooky night in. Yeah, that sounds lovely. Doesn't that, though? That's like heaven to me. Or I may watch a Charlie Brown Christmas. You would be like, it's after 8 o'clock. I can't watch anything scary. I can't. Nope. Sun's been down for too long. You big ween. That's right. Proud. I'm like, let's turn off all the lights and just have the Christmas lights on. Nope. I like it. I know. I know. Maybe one day I'll watch Krampus, but not by myself. Maybe with you. And during the daytime. I think you would like that, honestly. Okay. I think you would find that. That could be a nice night for you and Chess tonight to watch. I always, you know, my friend Cameron, I always ask him, like, would I really like this movie or not? And he's always like, no. It would be too much for you. Or, no, I think you'd really like it. So I'll put his thoughts on Krampus. I'll tell you this way. It's PG-13, so there's no gore. Oh, okay. That actually makes a lot better. That will probably help you in your decision making. Because I remember, I don't know if you've seen it or not, but they went and saw The Barbarian. Oh, yeah. That movie is so fucked up. Yeah. So they're like, no, you would not like it. And then they explained the whole plot to me, like, the entire plot. And I was like, absolutely not. You're never going to get an Airbnb ever again. That's why I was like, you guys are absolutely true. I would never, ever want to watch that film. I watched it. It's really weird. Yeah. They told me, and they're like, you think it's going to go one way? And it doesn't. I mean, they explained the whole plot to me. It takes 20 minutes because it's a lot going on. But I was like, I'm glad you guys told me, and I did not watch it. And they were like, you don't watch it. You don't want to watch it. And they were spot on. I think the main reason is just, you think it could possibly be real. Yeah. But it's just like, it deals with these different stories that all converge into one. Yeah, yeah. It's just like this total, like, it's very crazy. It's crazy, yeah. Over the top. And over the top, where you think, oh, I would never have them. But there's... You never know. But there's a sense that maybe it could. Yeah. It's just... That's what's frightening, yeah. Yeah, it is. Oh, that was a whirlwind. I remember watching that. See, so... I watched, yeah. Him and Katie's judgment on whether I'd like something or not, when it comes to this. So I'll ask their thoughts on things. Do you feel like I ever rapefully do a stray on movies? No, you don't. You don't. I don't think so. No, thanks. Not to my knowledge. No, that's just... I think you're pretty good. There was a time with It, where I told you it wasn't going to be that bad, and then you were, like, calling me, like, I'm having nightmares. That was terrifying. I can't believe that was, like, the one time. Yeah. No, I'm good. It was one movie, Rachel. Didn't we go see The Fateful? Yeah, and then you were, like, oh, this is not that bad. That one wasn't as bad. Yeah, that one wasn't as bad. It was just the first one. Yeah. But anyways, fun times. So I know that we've... This is our first episode for a while, because... Hot minute. It's the holidays, people. We're gonna... It's... Shit happens, and you just have to pivot. So we appreciate you being patient. Thank you. 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