Haunted Dollies Part Une

Two millennials discuss their love for the creepy, true crime, and haunted dolls. They talk about a haunted doll named Peggy, who is believed to be possessed by a restless spirit. People who have looked at photos or videos of Peggy have reported chest pains, nausea, and headaches. The doll's previous owner experienced nightmares and sought help from a priest, but the nightmares persisted. Peggy is believed to be the spirit of a woman who died in 1946 and may have ties to the Holocaust. Despite offers from psychics to take the doll, the current owner keeps her for research. They discuss the haunted doll over a Barbie-themed cocktail. The conversation ends with a mention of another haunted doll that will be discussed in a future episode. Hello, I'm Amy and I'm Rachel, and we're just two millennials who share a passion for the creepy and the spooky, harbor a true love for true crime, and share our favorite spirits. So sit back and have a cocktail with two creepy ghouls. That was perfect. Love it. Love the energy we got. It went really well. What's our topic? Our topic is going to be haunted dollies. See? Did this give you chills when you were reading it? Yeah, I actually refused to look at the pictures because it said not to, and I just scrolled past them. Yeah, that's why I remember I texted you, like, listen, if you're not comfortable, then it's fine. Don't worry about it. We just won't do it. Yeah, I remember. I just scrolled past the pictures. I got an idea of what they look like. Yeah, I have an idea, which mine is a pretty popular one. Yeah, yours is popular, but I like that you did it. I think you'll go way more in depth. Yeah, I did, and I was, like, researching it, so there's definitely some backstory that's really interesting for my little dolly. So what kind of drink do you have to go with haunted dolls? Well, this won't be an episode about dolls unless we had a doll-themed drink. So your girl here has the Barbie Malibu Dream Cocktail. Oh, okay. Because I love my Barbies. Yep. This one is going to be, it has a lot of ingredients, but I think it's nothing too expensive, nothing you can easily get at the grocery store. So it's going to be about 50 milliliters of coconut rum, 30 milliliters of cranberry juice, 20 milliliters of pineapple juice, and 15 milliliters of lime juice, and 10 milliliters of grenadine syrup, and just over ice. Okay. So it's a nice, like, fruity combination, cranberry, pineapple, lime, all the nice sweet stuff, with just coconut rum as the main alcohol in this component. And it'll make you feel like you are just in Barbie's dream house when you're drinking it. I love it. Hi, Barbie. Hi, Barbie. And especially, yeah, I love the Barbie movie, too. It was so good. It was so, so, so good. So I highly recommend that, too. That's an early movie recommendation for our doll themes here. But, yeah, be like Barbie. Okay. I love it. Well, the drink may be nice and delicious. I don't know about these haunted dolls. Well, this will be, so here's what it's going to be. Listen to this podcast first, and then have a happy ending with your Barbie dream cocktail. Yes. So that way you'll be like, okay, now I'm feeling better. We've heard the sour. Now we're going to have some sweetness for the evening. Okay. I like it. Absolutely. Do you want me to start, or do you want to start? So, yeah. So I have that you start us out with your dolly. Okay. So what is your first dolly? So my first dolly is Peggy. That's all I got. No last name. Peggy doesn't need a last name. Peggy. So meet Peggy. On the surface, she looks like your average doll with your standard-issued glassy blue eyes and cute Doris Day bob, which I love the description. But Peggy isn't so innocent. She's actually possessed by an impish spirit. I like impish. So British paranormal investigator Jane Harris reported over 80 cases of people having chest pains, nausea, and debilitating headaches after looking at photos or videos of Peggy, which is why I didn't look at photos of her. I don't blame you. Some even recalled they saw visions of mental institutions combined with intense anxiety, and one claimed Peggy gave her a heart attack. What? Jane Harris, who runs an organization called Haunted Dolls, which I would never run, was sent Peggy by her previous owner who claimed the doll was haunting her dreams. She wakes feeling hot and shaken, Harris said. No matter where she moved the doll to in her home, the nightmares persisted. Why didn't she just fucking throw it away? But anyways, she apparently sought the help of a local priest, but two visits later, there was no change. Why didn't she just throw it away? What if it comes back though? It's like a boomerang. I try and burn it and see what happens. After the woman suffered from fever and hallucinations, she ultimately stumbled across Harris' website on good ol' Google, as you do when you're looking for logical answers to mystery elements. This is all from a great website. I mean, we all do a Google search, so I get it. Oh, absolutely. I do it for everything. Me too. When she recovered, she saw no other option but to get rid of the doll, as she was convinced it was the center of all that had been happening. Harris' crack teams, along with the highly specialized members of the haunted doll's social media group, have deduced that Peggy is possessed by the spirit of a woman born in 1946 in London who died of a chest condition, possibly asthma. Oh, and she hated clowns, presumably because clowns are the only thing creepier than a doll inhabited by a dead chick. Which I love to say. The four different psychic mediums who have studied Peggy all say that she is restless, frustrated, and previously persecuted, possibly with ties to the Holocaust. Oh, God. We're just wrapping it all up in here. Like, from bad to worse. Yeah. Peggy's original owner isn't the only woman who has reported being tormented by the doll. Harris says that droves of people have come forward with similar accounts ranging from their computer freezing when they looked at Peggy's picture, to the room going cold and light bulbs blowing out whenever they mentioned the doll. Let's get through this. I have a house to sell. But Harris says when people contact her about these incidents taking Peggy into an isolation area, kindly asking her to stop tormenting strangers usually does the trick. See? She's perfectly reasonable. And, you know, my doll's reasonable, too. With Peggy, it's not only while people are looking at her or watching her. It seems to be afterwards, too. So we're just blaming everything on her at this point. Mm-hmm. We have been told she can affect people's dreams. She recently visited a lady in her dreams warning her about one of her cats. The next morning, the lady found her cat very ill and he sadly died that day. What if it was just saying, hey, get your cat checked out, not that I did something to your cat? If it was something like get your cat checked out, I'd be like, okay, you got it. Yeah, thank you. Although Harris has had many offers from other psychics to take Peggy off her hands, Harris and her pals at Haunted Dolls are hanging on to her for research. In order to do the work I do well, I have to approach each case as a skeptic initially, good, and look for normal explanations for things. Excellent. If it were one or two occasions that things were happening on, I could do that. But with Peggy, I just know there's something more. Just the other night, we held a session with her and I made lots of notes as the pendulum was going crazy. The next morning, I couldn't find my notepad anywhere, and when I did find it, I couldn't even reach it. The notebook was later found on the beams of her basement ceiling. What? My husband had to use the ladder to get it. Many people who saw the picture felt that she did not want me to tell people the information I gained, and yet we never got this information, so I guess it worked. You know it's creepy, pendulums. Yeah, I don't mess with those. But, yeah. Just saying, nothing good ever comes from a pendulum. So, but it doesn't really go into more on like, who this person was at the Holocaust, what she found out this session. So, I mean, you gotta keep the allure there if your whole thing is about haunted dolls. And do you really want to be able to explain it away or else you kind of like lose your organization, don't you? Yeah, I think you would. I mean, there goes the haunted dollies. What was it called? Haunted dollies. Oh, the title of that stuff? No, like the organization. Oh, I think it was just called the Organization of Haunted Dolls. They didn't try really hard on it, let me check. I think it's really interesting. It's just an organization called Haunted Dolls. I feel like they need a better title. They do. That's it, that's the next one. Hers was a little bit longer, I have a little more information on her. I have two lady haunted dolls, you have a man haunted doll. I have a man. I have a man. You know what's funny? I was just thinking, so when you were a kid, what were you more into? Were you into baby dolls at all? This is a baby doll that I love. It looks like a baby. I think it probably doesn't make a noise or not. But I wasn't into Barbie dolls. It was like babies. See, I feel like mine is the opposite. I had baby dolls, but Barbie doll was where I would like, that was my main shtick. Okay. But I remember my sister, because my sister is four years older than me, she had this doll, and it had to be from the late 80s, early 90s, and it would crawl. It crawled? Yeah, it crawled, and it would make crying noises, and its head would turn from side to side. That thing terrified me as a child. My mom got that, I guess, my mom got it for her, it would have to be or something. But anyway, I just remember, the basement was our playroom. We had a TV down there, a couch, and all our toys were kept down there. Honestly, it was more like that was our playroom area. So she would put the doll on the ground, and then I would freak out and jump on the couch, or I would run upstairs because I was like, get it away, because I felt like it was chasing me. Yeah, that thing creeped me out. What was her name? I don't know her name. Honestly, I was like, don't give it a name. Don't give it a name, you humanize it. Yeah. But, I'm not humanize, dollanize them, but no, I just remember that was like the creepiest doll. But yeah, I was just not a big baby doll. I think I would try to play baby dolls, you know, when you were with your friends, and you would all be together, like sure, but no, Barbie, it was always Barbie. Okay, good to know. I'm a Barbie girl in a Barbie world, living in a Barbie world. But, so yeah, about my guy. Probably the most famous haunted doll, right, you would say? I think him and Annabelle are on the same level. Okay. That's honestly, I think. I respect that. Maybe you think of Annabelle first, and then you think of this one, so. Okay. Spoiler alert. So my doll is Robert the Doll. Yes. So, first let me describe Robert to you all. And I actually, his origin story, there's actually a couple, but. He's a terrifying doll. I think he's cute, personally. Oh, that's right, you did tell me. You did text that to me. And you were like, sure, Jan. Yeah, sure, Jan, sure. So, Robert looks like he's dressed in a sailor suit. He has a worn face, vaguely human looking, a nub of a nose, has like these two black eyes, like beads for eyes. And he, some say he's described as having a malevolent smirk. I don't see that. But, and he has a little, his own little dog toy that's with him with like popping eyes and a tongue that hangs out, lolling around. And he's honestly, probably, he looks to be, in the pictures, the size of like a little boy as well. So, kind of a decent size. Yeah, I'd say this is a good size doll. It's not just like a tiny baby doll. Like, it looks like a little boy doll. And so, but Robert, the story goes, dates back to the early 1900s when a young boy named Eugene Robert Otto was given a one-of-a-kind handmade doll by a servant that worked for his parents in his home. And Eugene, who, everybody called Gene. So, we're just going to, from now on, just not cause any confusion. Eugene, we're just going to call him Gene. He's Gene. So, he named the doll Robert and it quickly became, he quickly became attached to this doll as his like new friend. And he would talk to him. He would take him throughout the house. I think he would describe it as like, he always talked to this doll as if it was alive. Okay. And that's how, you know, that's cute at first. To friends, yeah. I think when we see kids that are really attached to like an animal, not animal, but like a stuffed animal, but I'm thinking adult. I mean, it's cute when they're talking to them, they're taking them around, you know, nothing much of it. Well, Eugene lived in a home that was called the Artist House and it was located at 534 Eaton Street and was built between 1890 and 1898. This is where Eugene was given his new friend and where a friendship would last for a lifetime and beyond. Robert appeared just as, you know, an ordinary clothed doll. It wasn't long before Robert became linked to strange and terrifying events that were happening in the household. The first was one night when Gene, who was only 10 years old at this point, awoke to find Robert the doll sitting at the end of his bed, staring at him. Moments later, his mother was awakened by his screams for help and the sounds of furniture being moved in her son's room. Gene cried out for help and begged for his mother to rescue him. When she managed to get inside in his room, she saw that the room was in total disarray. Like, the furniture was moved around and he was cowering in his bed and he was just, and then sitting at the foot of the bed was Robert the doll. And he kept saying, for anything that would happen going forward, he would always say, Robert did it. Oh, Robert did it. Were the only words Gene could get out at this time as well. And the same very words, you know, he would use numerous times throughout his childhood. Something strange, mysterious, or just destructive would occur. Robert did it. And things got stranger. Gene's parents would often hear their son talking to the doll, like we said earlier. But now, they would also hear a response back. And getting a response back in a totally different voice. So they were like, oh my god, there are like two people upstairs? Yeah. And they reported seeing the doll speak and witnessing his expression starting to change. They would hear giggling, sightings of Robert running up the steps or staring out the upstairs window were also reported. So Robert continued to live with Gene throughout his lifetime and after Gene's parents died. He moved back into their home with his wife Anne. And Gene decided that the doll needed a room of his own and placed him in the upstairs room that had windows. What the hell? And the windows were like overlooking the street. So Anne felt uneasy with Robert and she wanted Gene to lock the doll up in the attic. Or get rid of the doll. Where he could do no harm. Yep. And so Gene agreed. And as you can imagine, Robert was none too happy. Visitors to the home would hear footsteps in the attic, sound of someone pacing in the attic, evil giggling. And neighborhood children would often report seeing Robert watching them as they walked to school from the upstairs bedroom. Get out! And Gene heard this. He went upstairs to investigate. Knowing full well he locked Robert in the attic. And there was no way he could get out to explore the house. So to his complete shock when he was going upstairs just to check everything out, the door to the upstairs bedroom there and he saw Robert sitting in the rocking chair by the window. Gene locked Robert back in the attic several times, each time discovering him again sitting by the window in the upstairs bedroom. So Gene Otto died in 1974 and a new owner moved into the home on Eaton Street. And their 10 year old daughter was thrilled to find Robert the doll in the attic. But happiness ended when she claimed Robert was alive and that the doll wanted to hurt her. She would wake in the middle of the night screaming in fear and told her parents that Robert had moved about in her room. It wasn't long before Robert was given away and today, even today, still lives in the East Martello Fort Museum where people from all over the world come to visit him. Now, the question is, is Robert possessed? It is believed by many that the origin of Robert's evil lies in one who originally gifted him the doll to our boy Gene Otto. The servant who worked for Gene's parents, the servant was a woman who was supposedly mistreated by Gene's parents and punished them. It is believed that she cursed the doll with voodoo and black magic. This could explain the mysterious and frightening experiences people have had with Robert. But if the owners have died, wouldn't the hauntings stop? It's unknown. But one thing is for sure, Robert continues to scare and taunt those who come to view him, especially for those who take photos of him without his permission. Some claim their cameras become inoperable when they try to take a pic of him, only to work again when they leave the museum. Robert sits inside a glass case, but it doesn't seem to stop him from inflicting fear and discomfort to both staff at the museum and visitors. Staff report that Robert's facial expressions change, hearing demonic giggling, and even seeing Robert put his hand up to the glass. And I will say, so that was one origin story that I heard, but then there's another one. So it could be also, let me get to it here. So he came to the museum in 1994 also as a little side note. So he's been there almost, he's been there 20 years. Yeah, he's been there for quite some time. 30, wait. Okay, let's do simple math here. So yeah, but not 30. 30 years. 30, okay. Geez Louise. We have, we're smart. We have degrees. 30 years. So he's been there for quite a while. But then in another story I read, it said that Robert was a childhood birthday gift from Otto's grandfather, who bought the doll during a trip to Germany. And Otto's relationship with the doll continued into adulthood, as we've discussed. That's kind of weird. Yeah, so it's like, okay, so, I mean, I think the site, one site said a servant gave to him that was mistreated. This one, it says Robert came from Germany. Has anyone from the Organization of Haunted Dolls with Jane Harris over here? I know, she may be able to do another one for us. A session. But this was kind of interesting too, because this article made it seem like they did more digging. But this article says, after some digging, the museum traced Robert's origins to the Steiff Company, and that's the same toy maker that first manufactured the teddy bear in honor of Theodore Roosevelt, which is kind of cool. And Robert was most likely never intended to be sold as a toy. This is what I thought was really fascinating. A Steiff historian told the museum that Robert was probably a part of a set fabricated for window displays of clowns or jesters. So like a window display. Because he does kind of look like a mannequin, the way his size is, and it doesn't look like your typical doll. No. And also they think that, especially with his impish behavior, it kind of suits his personality really well, how he's dressed in the sailor suit, which was probably not supplied by the toy company. It was probably an outfit that Otto, our boy Gene Otto, wore him as a child. And they say, according to legend, young Otto began to blame mishaps on the doll. While this would have been laughed off as childish storytelling, adults start noticing odd occurrences. Even the adults were noticing that he's talking to the doll like he's alive, and just mysterious things happening. School children reporting it. Now we're going to get into the whole photo thing. So I have heard, you have to ask his permission. But then others say that you really shouldn't ask an entity permission. It could open up a whole... Can of worms. Yeah, it could potentially. And so, me personally, just don't get a photo. Don't worry about it. You go to see it and you're done. You don't need a photo. But people who have taken photos say that, you know, that haven't gotten permission, they'll write letters to him asking for forgiveness for doing that as opposed to all these terrible bad looks that are happening to them. They get a divorce. They get in a car wreck. One even said they got struck by lightning. Oh wow. But they survived. But they survived. And so people too will show up, and I thought this was funny too. I don't really know. But people were also leaving offerings to Robert. Oh. And candy. They say he has a sweet tooth because, I mean, this is like a doll. He looks like a child. So they would leave like sweet tooth. I think we have one person who sent him three bags of peppermints. And, I mean, it was like an anonymous note. And then someone left him a joint one time. And people were like, okay, let's remember, this is a museum. Don't leave a joint. Let's not leave a joint. And especially, this is a child, so to speak. Don't give a kid a joint. So I was kind of like laughing, but I was like, oh my gosh. Poor Roberto. Yeah. So, yeah. What does Robert's doll do? And so some of his earliest reports are part like moving around. Guests and guests at the Fort East Martello have seen Robert's chest move as if he was breathing and felt an unknown entity touching their knee. Cold chills, orbs move about Robert's room at times. So I definitely feel like there is a spirit. There's something attached to this doll. I totally believe in that. Okay. And so here's more about the curse too. Some people who disrespect Robert the doll report days, weeks, or months of mechanical problems, accidents, strange occurrences, and misfortunes. Some people end up with lost luggage. Others report being struck by lightning. Lost luggage sucks. Oh my gosh. I was going to say, lost luggage, that's on par with being struck by lightning. It's an awful experience to have. And yeah. So there's a lot of fun. And how can I see Robert the doll? Robert the doll and daytime tour experience him after dark on an internet lockdown or ghost hunt. Fort East Martello Museum is open most days from 10 to 5. Ghost Key West offers ghost hunts and VIP lockdowns most of the nights after the sun goes down. Is this in Key West, Florida? Yeah. Oh. I've been there twice and I've never. Nope, we're good. Well, maybe we should plan that on you next vacation, friend. No, I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to sit that one out. But yeah, that's basically about Robert the doll. That's good. Yes. I enjoyed that tremendously. Are you ready to hear about the other most famous one? Heck yes, I am. Let's go, baby. Annabelle. She sits in a glass case like most of these dolls do now, bearing a hand-carved inscription of the Lord's Prayer, while a pleasant smile rests on her face, sitting under a mop of red hair. But beneath the case is a silent reed's warning, positively do not open. It's sad that you have to put that warning. Like, ugh, whatever. I mean, you have to. Have you seen people? Yeah, true. To the uninformed visitors of the Warren's Occult Museum in Monroe, Connecticut, she looks like any other Raggedy Ann doll produced in the mid-20th century, but the original Annabelle doll is actually anything but ordinary. Since her first supposed haunting in 1970, this allegedly evil doll has been blamed for demonic possession, a slew of violent attacks, and at least two near-death experiences. In recent years, the true stories of Annabelle have even inspired a series of horror films, which I didn't delve too much into because I figured you would talk about the Annabelle movies. Oh, my God. You know me. Annabelle is adorable. But just how much of Annabelle's story is real? Is the real Annabelle doll truly a vessel for a demonic spirit in search of a human host, or is she simply a child's toy used as a prop for wildly profitable ghost stories? These are the real stories of Annabelle. Dun, dun, dun. You should have put sound effects. I know. Though she doesn't share the same porcelain skin and likewise features as her cinematic counterpart, the Annabelle doll that lives in the Occult Museum of famed paranormal investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren, the pair that worked on the case, is made all the more creepy by how ordinary she appears. And human. Extraordinary. Annabelle's stitched features, including her half-smile and bright orange triangular nose, evoke memories of childhood toys and simpler times. True. If you could ask Ed and Lorraine Warren, though Ed died in 2006 and Lorraine died in 2019, so we can't now, they would tell you that the stark warnings scrawled across Annabelle's case are more than necessary. According to the well-known paranormal investigators, the doll is responsible for two near-death experiences, one fatal accident, and a string of demonic activities that lasted some 30 years. Yet, no one threw her away. Well, she could just come right back, buddy. Well, I know people have tried to buy her for like, and they're like, nope, we will not sell this doll. Oh, I believe that. Yep. Annabelle's infamous hauntings can allegedly be traced back to 1970, when Annabelle was brand new. The story was told to the Warrens by two young women and was retold for years after by the Warrens themselves. As the story goes, the Annabelle doll had been a gift, shocking, to a young nurse named Donna, or Deidre, depending on the source, from her mother for her 28th birthday. Why does a 28-year-old get a doll? Well, why does a 30-something-year-old collect Barbie dolls? We don't know. It's just, it gives us joy. But go on. Donna, apparently thrilled with the gift, brought it back to her apartment that she shared with another young nurse named Angie. At first, the doll was an adorable accessory sitting on a sofa in the living room. It had its own place on the sofa, and greeting visitors with her colorful visage. But before long, the two women began to notice that Annabelle seemed to move about the room of her own accord. Donna would sit her on the living room sofa before leaving for work, only to come home in the afternoon and find her in the bedroom with the door shut. That's what freaks me out the most, is the moving. Donna and Angie then started finding notes left throughout the apartment, reading, Help me! Oh god, yep. According to Malou, the notes were written on parchment paper, which they did not even keep in their home. Oh god. Furthermore, Angie's boyfriend, known only as Lou, was in the apartment one afternoon while Donna was out, and heard rustling in her room as if someone had broken in. Upon inspection, he found no sign of forced entry, but found the Annabelle doll lying face down on the ground. Other versions of the story say he was attacked upon waking from a nap. Can you imagine a showdown with a doll? I mean, there's Chucky, but ugh. I mean, continue. Suddenly, he felt a searing pain on his chest and looked down to find bloody claw marks running across it. Two days later, they had vanished without a trace. Following Lou's traumatic experience, the woman invited a medium over to help solve their seemingly paranormal problem. The medium held a seance and told the woman that the doll was inhabited by the spirit of a deceased seven-year-old named Annabelle Higgins, whose body had been found years earlier on the site where their apartment building had been built. So I guess it took over the doll. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, no, I got you. I got you. The medium claimed that the spirit was benevolent and simply wanted to be loved and cared for. The two young nurses reportedly felt bad for the spirit and consented to allow her to take up permanent residence in the doll. You never consent to anything. Oh my god. Eventually, in an attempt to rid their home of the Annabelle doll spirit, Donna and Angie called on an Episcopal priest known as Father Higgins. Higgins contacted his superior, Father Cook, who alerted Ed and Lorraine Warren. The priests contacted the paranormals. As far as Ed and Lorraine were concerned, the two young ladies' trouble truly started when they began believing that the doll deserved their sympathy. There you go. The Warrens believed that there was actually a demonic force, not a little girl who wanted to be loved, in search of a human host within Annabelle and not a benevolent soul. The Warrens' account of the case states, quote, Spirits do not possess inanimate objects like houses or toys. They possess people. An inhuman spirit can attach itself to a place or object, and that is what occurred in the Annabelle case. The spirit manipulated the doll and created the illusion of it being alive in order to get recognition. Truly, the spirit was not looking to stay attached to the doll. It was looking to possess a human host. But, like, how hard is it to possess? Like, how long was this on the house? How can the spirit, like, jump? I don't know. That's a good question. Immediately, the Warrens noted that they believed, or, immediately, the Warrens noted what they believed were signs of demonic possession, including teleportation, the doll moving on its own, materialization, the parchment paper notes, and the mark of the beast, Lou's clawed chest. Oh, God. The Warrens subsequently ordered an exorcism of the apartment to be performed by Father Cook. Then they took Annabelle out of the apartment and to her final resting place at the museum in hopes that her demonic reign would finally end. Following Annabelle's removal from Donna and Angie's apartment, the Warrens documented several other paranormal experiences involving the doll, the first just minutes after they took possession of her. After the exorcism of the nurse's apartment, the Warrens buckled Annabelle to the back seat of the car. Okay, that's kind of cute. Can we just say that? And vowed not to take the highway in case she had some kind of accident causing power over them and their vehicle. However, even the safer back roads proved too risky for the couple. On their way home, Lorraine claimed that the brakes either stalled or failed several times, resulting in near disastrous crashes. Lorraine claimed that as soon as Ed pulled holy water from his bag and doused the doll with it, the problem with the brakes disappeared. Kind of convenient. Upon arriving home, Ed and Lorraine placed the doll in Ed's study. There they reported that the doll levitated and moved about the house. Even when placed in the locked office in an outer building, the Warrens claimed that she would turn up later inside the house, moving in. Finally, the Warrens decided to lock her up for good. The Warrens had a specially made glass and wood case constructed upon which they inscribed Lord's Prayer and St. Michael's Prayer. For the rest of his life, Ed would periodically say a binding prayer over the case, ensuring that the sinner's spirit and the doll remained good and trapped. Since being locked up, Annabelle the doll hasn't moved again, though it is alleged that her spirit has found ways to reach out to the Earthly plane. Once, a priest who was visiting the Warrens' museum picked up Annabelle and discounted her demonic abilities. Ed warned the priest about mocking Annabelle's demonic power, but the young priest laughed it off. Ha ha. On his way home, the priest was involved in a near-fatal crash that totaled his new car. He claimed to have seen Annabelle in his rearview mirror just before the accident. Years later, another visitor rapped on the glass of the doll's case and laughed at how silly people were to believe in her. On his way home, he reportedly lost control of his motorcycle and crashed headlong into a tree. He was killed instantly, and his girlfriend barely survived. She claimed that at the time of the accident, the couple had been laughing about the Annabelle doll. Over the years, the Warrens continued to recount these tales as proof of Annabelle the doll's horrific power, so none of these stories could be corroborated. The names of the young priest and the motorcyclist were never divulged. Convenient. Neither Donna nor Angie, the two nurses who were Annabelle's first victims, ever came forward with their story. Neither Father Cook nor Father Hegan appear to have mentioned their exorcisms or ever again. It would appear that all we have is the Warrens' word that any of this even took place. Dun dun dun. That was the 70s. Ha ha ha. Listen. I. You know me. I'm like. I know your thoughts. I've got it. Yeah. I ain't risking it. I'm not. You know what I mean? Nope. Nope. No risk here. Nope. You know what? I believe it. Thank you. I believe there is evil in this world. Totally. Got it. Oh, there is evil in this world. That's for sure. Oh, yeah, there is. That's a whole other topic we could get into. Oh, God. So what movies do you have? Well, I'm going to start out with. I'm going to start talking about the Annabelle films. Yeah. Yeah. I think that makes sense just hearing your story. Yeah. So there's actually, technically speaking, I'm going to say four-ish. Oh, wow. Because it's first mentioned in The Conjuring. Oh, okay. Like, she plays, like, as they start out the Annabelle story where. Oh, okay. Ed and Laurie come to see the nurses and they hear about the doll. And basically they. It's like a little recap of that whole scene of, like, the drawings moving. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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