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In this podcast episode, the host, TCM Chef Raphael, interviews his guest, Rita Thomas, about their experiences working in the homes of high net worth individuals. They discuss how these individuals, despite their wealth, have similar issues and problems as everyone else. They share stories of bizarre situations, such as a dog getting dental work done for a Christmas card photo and purchasing expensive purses with a household credit card. They also talk about the challenges of working with household staff and the importance of maintaining professional boundaries. I'm your host, TCM Chef Raphael, with information that is science-based and current with today's medicinal research. My aim is to instill into your mind and heart a curiosity that can root solutions to your lifestyle and eating choices. So dive with me into the next topic. Hello everybody and welcome to my podcast and today's guest with me in the studio is Rita Thomas, which I have in my phone book as Rita Butler. Hi Raphael, I'm so glad to be here. Thank you very much. It's exciting to be on your podcast. Thank you. So what are we going to talk about today? I'm super excited. So the idea is that we actually keep an uplifting sort of communication about our experience working in the billionaire's club. Exactly. Okay, so we have worked together with high net worth individuals. We're kind of like the Downton Abbey inside version. Now that everybody has seen Suggestion, the movie series, I guess they get a little insight of what it looks like on their end, but we want to give the Downton Abbey perspective of that. Right? Absolutely. And we want people to know that everybody seems to envy, admire, become jealous of these particular individuals. They're really just like you and me. They really are. I agree. They really are. The same issues, the same problems, the things they run into, it just happens to have a higher price tag to fix the problem. Shockingly so sometimes. But in all fairness, we are not here to trash talk anybody, and if you recognize yourselves in our stories, that's just a coincidence, because most of us, we live parallel lives in parallel universes. Some have a little more money than others, but the issues and the fun parts and what makes us giggle and laugh and keep us going in these residences is exactly those stories that happened coincidentally oftentimes. What I find really interesting about it, Raphael, is a lot of times when something transpires in a household, I have to almost pinch myself, because it's so first world problems that I'm almost embarrassed to even say that this happened at work, but in a normal household it would be so bizarre or really way out there, but in our world it's just another day. Oh yeah, one day, and I actually frankly don't exactly know the time anymore, but I guess it's about 11 years ago, we crossed paths when I got hired as a private chef into a net worth person household in Bel Air. Yeah, so I met you in Bel Air at, I can't say it, but at a movie executive's house when I was working as an estate manager butler, and they hired you as a chef. That was what, 11 years ago? Wow. Wow. Okay. That was fast. Yes, very fast. So we've done quite a few gigs in quite a few different states where we've crossed paths or pulled one another in, so it's a very small community. It is, indeed. That's why all the non-disclosure agreements that we have, we have to be respectful to that and all these lives on the top level of billionaires, they just look alike. And they run together. It's repetitious stuff in every property. Your dog's not special just because he gets his teeth zoomed. It's nothing special. You know, I actually don't... Industry standard. Industry standard. I actually don't clearly remember how we were introduced, but I remember there was a character, his name was Paul. Yes. Who used to have a basement. Oh. Paul. Paul, who never seen D-Light, ever. He never came upstairs. A windowless office downstairs in the basement. By the laundry room. He must have made shit tons of money because why would he have that job? Yes. And remember, it was almost like an Igor situation when the missus would walk him through the house. He carried that clipboard and just shook his head yes. His ghostly head. Oh, yes. And he was so pale white. And then remember, the rest of us had to climb like six flights of stairs everywhere except for him and missus. What was it that kept him there? I mean... I think the house in Malibu they bought. I would say yes, you're right. They bought a house in Malibu. Yes, they bought a house in Malibu. So I think that you sell yourself to the, you know, the industry and you never have a life. You know, the last, you know, three years you're alive, you get a beach property. I mean, he was good at what he was doing. He was good. He was good. Paul was amazing. And he was nice. And he was a yes man. I've been called at three o'clock in the morning from New York to ask where a Toomey suitcase in the garage was in the Hansons. Do you remember in that household, missus one day asked us to join her in the living room. She had a revealing of a art piece that she was hanging. I was like working. So my hands in the vegetables I had to brush off and she was in a hurry. And I thought like, what's going on unveiling the unveiling of artwork. So to give you a little bit of backstory about this, she ordered a piece of artwork that I believe came from Paris on a cargo plane that was approximately 32 feet long. And this particular piece of art, it took over two weeks to get to Bel Air. And then it had to have canvassers come in and put the canvas and installation crew from the Getty had to come over to help put the canvas up onto the wall so it would just attach up there without tearing or shifting once it was brought in by an 18 wheeler. All I remember is you and I standing next to each other and missus turns around and she looks at us and we had this look on our face because we didn't know what the heck to say or think about it. No, and it was super exciting because I was expecting like a masterpiece, a masterpiece. The garb. Yes, exactly. It's going to be hung up in the middle of the home theater, which is really small because it only seats like 40, you know, it's like a smaller room, maybe 100 feet by 75. Which in our world would be an entire house. Yeah, exactly. But in their world, it's basically a shoe closet. So, they were hanging up in there, the people that were doing the canvassing had just left and she called us down to review. And she was glowing. She loved whatever it was. She loved it dearly. She wanted the feedback. You and I, we have no respect for whatever piece of art it was, but maybe we couldn't understand it either. It's so modern. We're not modern, obviously. What did you say to her? She says, Rita, what do you see? I remember that, right? Well, she asked you first. Remember? She looked at you and said, what do you think of it? And you kind of looked down and snickered, which made me laugh. So, I had to look away. I was honest. I sort of said, like, it's okay or something. I don't know what I said. I said something. I mean, I'm trying. You tried to be neutral. You tried to be neutral. Stay positive. But she didn't take that. Well, I think I was shocked. And then she looked at me and asked me, what do you see? And I said, Rita, what do you see? I remember that, right? Well, she asked you first. Remember? She looked at you and said, what do you think of it? And I said, Rita, what do you see? I remember that, right? Well, she asked you first. You tried to be neutral. You tried to be neutral. Stay positive. But she didn't take that. Well, I think I was shocked. And then she looked at me and asked me, bold face, what does this art piece say to you, Rita? And I snickered. I said, you probably don't want to hear what the art piece is saying to me. High-end art, yes, I can appreciate it. But usually, if it's something that I could paint myself, I don't tend to, you know, value it as much. Either I'm really talented with art, or it's not such a good piece. I don't know which one it is. It was a shocker. I remember that. So it was basically just a white canvas with a big black line across it with four squares that literally looked like buck teeth. And so I said, I think it looked like buck teeth. Rita, you remember it. Wow. Is it left an impression? Well, it was either buck teeth or dishcloth hanging on the line. So I was trying to figure out, do I tell her it looks like buck teeth, which is a little more eclectic, and maybe more collectible? Or do I tell her that it looks like clotheslines? I went back to the kitchen because I'm surely having something on the stove that needed my attention. We were in trouble. Anyway, needless to say, we were both told how inadequate our art skills were. Oh, yeah. We were recommended. Our art appreciation was lacking, and we should definitely go to MoCA. But we didn't, because there was another time, I remember clearly, we were doing show tunes, and I picked up this $500,000 Tiffany lamp in the living room, pretending to be the beauty and the beast, the chef. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. McDonald's. Mm-hmm. Legitimate self. And then I went high-kicking. Da-da-dum, da-da-dum, with this Tiffany lamp. As I came cans with my apron. Mm-hmm. the dining room, which is a larger room than for eight people. And then it merged into Be Our Guest. Be Our Guest. Be Our Guest. We were quick. It was a service to the test. And only the next day, when security came over to us and says, usually this would be the case to be fired instantly, but everybody in security loved the little video they recorded of us doing it. We about died. We didn't realize there were cameras in the pantry. They were outside in the garden, but they saw it through the window, so they couldn't hear us saying they only saw me high-kicking with this lamp, walking from window to window, past window. So it looked like he was trying to assassinate me. So yeah, our Broadway skills have been highly sought after in this industry. So what are some really interesting stories, or something that has stead out in your brain as kind of bizarre that most people would not have a clue about? Because I have plenty of those type stories. It's just always interesting, because sometimes I'll start talking about it, and people just look at me like, what in the world planet am I from? What the hell? Out of respect, I usually tell your stories, because then they can't be linked to my childhood experience. Great. And what comes to mind really first is that dental story with the dog. Oh, yeah. I started a new job, and this particular job offered benefits, which is great, because to be honest with you, working with high-net-worth individuals, it's so funny that they won't offer insurance, and they don't offer any type of benefits, but we have people in housekeeping pulling tags off of shirts that are $1,800 for a T-shirt, but then they say it's too expensive to offer health insurance to the people, and there's only four people in the whole house. The particular one that stands out in my brain was the no benefits, and then finally I did get benefits, and they said that there's no dental, and I was like, oh, okay, that's fine. Christmas time rolls around, and they told me that they had a dentist coming over to the house, and I'm puzzled that a dentist is coming to the house, so I'm thinking, oh, mister is having someone look at his tooth, maybe, instead of having to go to the actual dentist. They knock on the door, and I open the door, and there's a little lady. She had a toolbox, and so I asked mister, I said, hey, your dentist is here, and he's kind of puzzled and said, oh, I didn't order a dentist. I don't have an appointment. Are you kidding? And so I asked missus, well, come to find out, it's for the dog. So the dog has a dentist coming over, but not really to even check his teeth. It's really to do zoom widening on his teeth with a laser light and a tray, because he has to have really shiny teeth for the Christmas card. I mean, this is serious. Really, that dog was like old, right? Yeah, he was like 12. He had like four teeth left. Yeah, four teeth, but those four teeth have to really be white, because they're going to Christmas cards, and these Christmas cards go to like the Kardashians and stuff, so in order to have teeth on this dog's white, which they could have photoshopped, but no, we really have to zoom. Well, wait, wait, that is the joke, because then they photoshopped the missing teeth into it, too. On top of the zoom widened teeth, yes, and then what's even crazier about that whole situation is the dog kept like looking back at me, smiling and sparkling, and I'm like, stop it, stop it. I'm going to put a little diamond in that. I'm jealous. Front tooth, a little diamond in there. Right, I'm jealous. I'm so jealous of this dog's benefits. He's got better benefits than I do. Yeah. When I tell people, you know, oh, I've got to get this dog's teeth zoomed for the next Christmas card, people just don't have any idea what I'm talking about. For me, it's like the household dog usually becomes my best friend. I bond with him. They're in the kitchen with me. I walk them. I, you know, whenever I go somewhere, I take the household dog with me, and it's really sad, because when I leave a residence, the dog is sort of like, you know, teary-eyed there, and I wave goodbye, and I really feel bad. How many times have you left a house with a dog and a kid looking out the window crying? I can't tell you how many times. No, seriously, because you've brought… The dogs and the kids, when we leave, it's like sometimes they're like, why are you leaving? And I'm like, it's not you. It's me. It's like… Not getting paid correctly. It's like you're taking the treat away. Exactly. It's like if we could just have the whole house of dogs and kids and land of misfit toys, I would just totally have them. How about the purse story? Remember that? Oh, yes. Don't ever wear yoga pants and go shopping on Rodeo Drive. It is a pretty woman's story. Let me tell you. I'm wearing yoga pants, sweatshirt, hair in a scrunchie. My Mrs. Principal told me she needed me to go pick up a couple of purses. So I'm like, okay, sure, great. I'll go pick up some purses. So I go over to Rodeo Drive, and there's a Hermes right there. And of course, they don't even want to let me in. I'm like trying to open the door, and it's like almost like they're locking it from inside. You don't look like somebody that spends money in here. You're six feet tall and wearing yoga pants, and they're not Lululemon. You're not allowed in here. So anyway, I tried to get in the store, and they're just like looking at me like, go around. The trash is out back. There's cans out there. No, it's just very interesting because when I went in, I asked if they could unlock the purses because they're actually locked onto a rack in the front of the store, and the other ones are locked to a little rack on the shelf. And you looked like you could run. Because there's a lot of snatch and grabbers, and I know they're thinking, oh, she's got some long legs. You might have a hard time catching Flojo right here. So I went to get the purse, and I asked the lady, and she wouldn't even unlock it. She's like, you can see it from there. And I'm like, but my principal wants to purchase the bag. I need it unlocked in order for me to ring it up. But they're really bizarre about it, and so they wouldn't even let me touch the bag. They told me to use the cloth. I mean, it's like hardcore. Because those alligator skins, they might pick up some of your bacteria. Rotten away. Right? And the crocodile bag, I mean, let's face it, because it's such a dainty critter. It's like a kitten. For a girl coming from Louisiana. That's right. I've ruffled bigger things than that. Come on. And so anyway, they finally unhooked it, but then I said, can I speak to the manager? And then when I talked to the manager, and she finally got to my boss, and then she was all of a sudden, you know, beluga caviar was on the tray, and then she was bringing out drinks. Would you like to have something to drink? Would you like some champagne? And I'm like, no, I just kind of need the bags. So then I go to buy the bags, and they go to run the credit card through, and I said, so what's the price on this bag, just so I know? So I set up all three of these different bags on the counter. There was one that was olive green, there was one that was black, and there was one that's kind of a navy color. I called my missus, the principal, and asked her if she wanted both of these bags, and I told her what colors they had, and she said, oh, yeah, I definitely want the olive green one. I said, okay, do you want the black one or the navy one? I said, no, I just want the ones you want for the second bag, and then she basically said, just get all three of them. Okay, you want all three? They're the same bag. It's the same Kelly Birkin bag. It's just, yeah, I need all three colors. Go ahead and get all three. I put them up there, you know, running them through, and the numbers go off of the actual little display because there's so many numbers. I spent $240-something thousand dollars on three purses, but what was interesting, even more so than that, is that not that I'm buying, you know, an average-sized house in the Midwest for three purses, but the fact is that I'm using my household credit card, and it didn't decline. This isn't a black Amex. This is just a regular, everyday Amex to buy, like, you know, laundry detergent, and it did not decline, but I walked out of there, and then I felt kind of paranoid that someone was going to jump me for my purses that were empty. It's very odd. Yeah, it's odd that we have household credit cards, and they have our names on it, and we do realize in between you could just charge, you know, a Bentley on it, basically, and you always make this joke about $4,000. It's like, Mrs., I'm going to charge $4,000, and they look at you like, what's the problem? Why are you asking this? Oh, never mind. Don't worry. Exactly. Are you at Phil McCartney buying a T-shirt? What's going on? I'm just making sure it doesn't bounce, which it never does. That's the thing, is it never does. I put so much on a credit card, and it's like... And yet my credit scoring hasn't gone up. I mean, it should be brilliantly 800, 900 points. Probably because the income-to-debt ratio is a little off. If I owe $240,000 this month on my Amex, but I don't make that in two years... Just look straight to the IRS, I guess. They're like, these scammers. There was a moment we crossed paths, I think, two years ago, two years ago, somewhere in Midwest Michigan. Michigan. All-time beachside Michigan. Oh, yes. And Mrs. had hired household help for the summer. Sometimes people step into the residence areas they should never be hired. Right. I mean, we go to, what, an FBI background check, and people come aboard that aren't just... And she's basically one step above Grindr, just flipping. I mean, she basically has... It's cute. From a Walmart parking lot. Right. She passes the people at Home Depot parking lot, goes to Walmart. Oh, look at him. I like his shoes. What are you doing this summer? Well, before we actually arrived, one of the employees had arrived, and I think it was her husband's birthday. I remember that. And she sent him out to buy fireworks, because in Michigan, you can buy fireworks. She sent him in a truck, the household truck, which was this big Titan, something, Nissan Titan. Really? Yeah. Huge. Huge car. Dude, let's call it... I don't think he even had a drugs license. I have no idea. You know, what do we name him? We name him Albie. He drove this truck like, I don't know, like a race car down... One hand on the wheel, the other hand on the bong. Yeah, bong. Driving down the road, spilling water. That's when I learned that ozone sprays, you introduced me to brilliantly ozone sprays that are supposed to keep the cabin from smelling like pippi lip you. Yes. So we're flying down the road in this truck, going off the edges of the road. I'm thinking I'm going to die. This guy's spilling bong water on his leg. It stinks in there. Before we actually got there, Mrs. called me, and she says, Albie just went shopping for fireworks. And I said, oh great, did you send him? And she's like, I told him, and she's just going to buy fireworks for a birthday party. And I think he brought like $6,000 worth. He loaded the truck up and says, can't stop. Oh my gosh. He was the guy that worked on Wi-Fi with a cell phone activated. I was like, okay, this is a little Oklahoma City for me. This is a little Oklahoma City. He was redneck. He was redneck. I mean, Joe Dirt Mullet, he was full on. It was quite the experience. Those people have no idea what happens when the Beverly Hills people come in. Oh my goodness. Michigan. It's a different world. Michigan's a different world. And what about wearing all those Chanel outfits to go to the yacht club? There was another household person. She tried to convince that person he should be sleeping on a boat. Remember that? Oh yeah. She didn't want to pay a housekeeper to clean the rooms, so she put him on this little mini yacht, wooden yacht, runabout. Oh, it was a big boat. It was a big boat. For you and I, it would be a luxury yacht, but for their standard, it was sort of a little dingy. Well, anyway, he refused. He said he was seasick. The boat was swaying in the harbor. Anyway, he didn't, so she put him in a hotel in the end. But then one day, it just called in sick, and we discovered he was on one of those gay chat sites and actually hustling. He was turning shrimp from the grinder, what was it, bear chat? Scruff. Scruff, that's it. She'd be scared of you. You know that so much better than I do. Well, I was looking for him. Remember? I was like, why did he not come to work? There's nothing out here for him. So yeah, we found him on Scruff, and he was looking for a generous sugar daddy. Generous, that was the word. And it was like generous, and I'm like, he's making more money staying at the hotel working Scruff than he is for our five minutes ago. We couldn't tell business either. And then she made us take a chicken noodle soup over there, and he has his own. Because he's sick. I remember she said we need to bring food over. And I called in, and he says, please don't come to the room. I'm busy. He hasn't come to me. I'm like, he's been there two days, and he's already got stuff going on. It's like, why are you here? I'm like, we're bringing you food. We knew he was not sick, but we're like, we're bringing you food. Mrs. is sending you chicken soup. Didn't he say something like he might have COVID? And then the next day, he said he needs to fly out for a family emergency to New York. Oh, my God, yes. One minute he has COVID, and then the next minute, he has to fly to New York. And then the next minute, it's like so many. Oh, my gosh. Getting help when you live in a isolated area, whether it's Nantucket, whether it's the Hamptons, South Hamptons, Sag Harbor, down in Miami, it's really tough to get help quick. Much of that you would climb in on the private jet. Or quality help. Which that money in itself, that money in itself is more than they would ever make in the summer. Yeah, and remember, he robbed the private suites at LAX of all the alcohol. Like 65 bottles of alcohol. He put all that in his bag, and then she lost her mind. I will never be able to show my face in the private suites again. Well, he took everything, even the tampons. He took everything. He took all the tampons. He swears he's at freaking Ramada Inn. Oh, Lord. Working in those households can be quite challenging. And that's the thing that I want most of the high net worth people to understand. Everybody has really good intentions. They really do. They want to do well. They want to do things. But a lot of people really have never had this type of life, nor this type of experience. So it's really hard to have someone know how to clean a $6,000 blouse if they never owned a $6,000 blouse. And then they get upset, you know, how dare she throw that in the washer machine. To her, it's just a regular silk blouse that she can throw in her laundry bag. For me, there's sort of a reflection on these people have no clear understanding of how we see it from our perspectives. You go to a store and you see the headlines in the cheesy checkout rack, you know, like so-and-so gave birth to three alien girls and all this crap that you read. And sometimes I pick up the magazines and bring them back to Mrs. and say, look what they're writing about you. And she doesn't care. They really don't because all their life they have been made headlines for nothing that's actually having hands and feet. And my friends come to me and say, well, isn't so-and-so super, super difficult to work with? And I have to reflect the same way. As a private chef, it's different because there's some truth to that. And I can see how they are because with the assistance and they can fuck up and do anything. But as a private chef, I know what they don't eat and I have a very different decor with them. They come into the kitchen without makeup and hair done and they say, chef, are we ready for dinner tonight? And I can imagine that they are difficult with other people. But for me, most of these people, even if they're high maintenance and all of that, they're actually really deeply soulful and fun and kind and normal to a certain extent, just not really related to the poor. I feel that, too, because I have a really good rapport with most of the people I've ever worked with. There's really not anybody that I would ever trash out because everyone's human. And I really like what I do. And they're family. Yeah, they're family. They're family. It's just like a dysfunctional family. And the thing is, it's just the dynamic is so different. You know, they have lots of money and there's lots of things they can buy. And just to jump up and go on a trip for two weeks. There are a lot of shitty people around them all the time. It could be even their friends. I mean, there are a lot of leeches out there. A lot of leeches. A lot of people who really don't care about the family. They don't care about their stuff. It's all about what they can get. So, they always have to have a little bit of a guard up. And then that makes it look like they're hard. And comes Christmas or a birthday or so, some of them really make big efforts to appreciate, to show that there's something that they fully respect. And we are in a different position, again, as a butler or as a private chef. We're a bit closer than others. I need to know what medicines they're on, what drives their life, what makes them happy. What makes their children happy. What makes their children happy. What makes their dogs happy. Because these are the inner workings that we deal with more so than just what's going on in their house. And we are not a nine-to-five job. We are there after dinner. We are there early in the morning. Before breakfast. And when they travel, we know where they go, what they need, what is essential to their life. Yes, I have a company that I've been working with individually for many years that basically does a state setup prior to them arriving. I would help a chef like yourself, do provisioning, set up everything. Oh, they like brie. Oh, they want essential water. They want this. Oh, I have seen you in action. I know how it is. And I've seen your clients coming to you and nearly in tears because you're fixing their closets or their walk-in closets. Huge, huge assembly. And they are so astonished that it can look like that and be so beautiful. Thank you. I mean, literally, I've been standing there when Mrs. was in tears saying, thank you, and I've experienced that about you. It's been piles and piles and piles of clothes. And I think more than anything is, well, people just don't care. But if you do like yourself or like me, we really care about our clients. We want everyone to understand that it's not as easy on that side as everybody makes it out to be as well. Yeah, and they're being hunted down by media. They're being hunted down by media, paparazzi, this. The wrong text message can get them in trouble. Or just like simply trying to get a dishwasher repaired. You could call and have that same dishwasher repaired with your zip code. It costs maybe $200 for the call, for the service call for them to come out. Just because they're in a zip code that happens to be Bel Air or Malibu or Montecito, that same thing will be $575 just for them to come out. I'm telling my clients Bentley to get air in it, and they charge me $55. Oh, it's $400. Yeah, $400 for a simple oil change that's like not even nothing else. Chippy loop level. Yeah, and I'm like, okay, that's ridiculous. I just have to say that once you're in that realm of high net worth, everybody is out to take advantage. And so that's why sometimes I can hear the birds in the background. I fully agree with you. And sometimes in my life I catch myself, and you are that too, we're just making jokes, funny jokes, and we just have to let loose a little, not knowing that security is watching us. But I think our clients know that we are harmless. Exactly, and I love them. I love them. They're wonderful, and that's the thing. That's probably why I have so many that ask me back for 10, 15, 20 years. It's because I really enjoy what I do. They know that I put my heart into it. They know I'm not there to take advantage. And if I say it can't be done, I'm not trying to be lazy. I'm not trying to cop out. I'm letting them know that it physically cannot be done. Someone else, such as an agency, might say, oh, sure, we can get that done, because they want their 30%. They want their money, and that's fine, but it's not realistic sometimes. The headhunters are oftentimes completely unrealistic in their listings first and then in their execution of it. Well, for me, it's important to really make that point. As a private chef, I am part of somebody's family. I grow into this sort of notion that I am just more than just an employee. And sometimes the clients reflect on that positively, and I really appreciate that when that happens. Absolutely. So, yeah, we have our little dogs here. You have yours. This is Milkshake, and mine is Bongo. And they're tapping around, as you can hear in the background. This is probably stuff I can't filter out. So, just to announce, right, there's a little tappity going on. Like that. Yeah, he's ready for his potty cure. Potty cure. Now we have a little $23 latte in Beverly Hills with olive oil in it. I don't understand. You know, me working with traditional Chinese medicine, there's two things I can tell you. If you want to have the shit, drink coffee and olive oil together. Everybody knows that in Italy. There's no coffee with olive oil in it. But yet, some of those ladies with their plastic water bottles driving a Bentley in Lululemon outfits will convince you. But the way the traffic is. What if I was that? Because I've only had one incident in 20 years, so it was kind of bizarro. I don't think you were that. I'll have an espresso coffee for my perfectly forming machine. Yes. Rita, it was really, really amazing having you. Thank you. I mean, you and I, whenever we see each other without words, we laugh because that's how it is. And how fitting that you actually have a website that is called? I Know Your Dirt, which is my private estate consultation company. I Know Your Dirt. Yes, I do. But I won't share it. And I love a good NDA, especially the thing I can kind of look at is if the NDA is more than six pages, I'm like, oh, I love a challenge. It's bringing out the kids, the dogs, the step kids. So, Rita, I'm really happy having you here. It's really wonderful. Lovely, because every time I see you, or I think when you see me, when we see each other, we start laughing because that's just what we do. Absolutely. I am always in awe about how you get your life, and you're very inspiring. And how fitting that your website is called? I Know Your Dirt dot com. That's amazing. She does. But we would never really talk about that in public. No, we try to steer clear of it. We do everything from basically closet organization, staff, hiring of new staff, set up of second and third homes, vacation homes, prior to guest arrival. I'm not an agency, so I don't really place people, but I do have really good references, like such as yourself, if someone needs a really good chef. I have about 10 to 12 chefs that I can recommend for certain areas, all the way from Orange County, all the way to the Hamptons, Chicago, wherever they're located. In the end, it's sort of an insider job anyway, because we like the people that we have to work with, and we know how they work. And it makes it very easy to know that on my background, I have brought somebody in that I can fully trust. That's key. That is key, because I don't want to ever place someone who reflects poorly on my… From a Walmart parking lot. Exactly. Oh, God. I want someone that can drive the car, and they're not under the influence of anything. And don't blow up the house with fireworks. Exactly. And people that know you don't throw a silk blouse in the wash. Well, it's really, really, really great. I'm happy we had this conversation. Thank you. I hope the people out on the podcast world will love this, too, because this is unusual, I guess. Yes, it is. Like I said, you know. Next time you have your card ready, we'll go to Hawaii and then burn that card, okay? We'll never work in this town again. It's a small little network. It is. You burn one bridge, and it's over. You don't burn bridges in Los Angeles. We don't do that. You don't burn bridges. Rita, I love you. I love you, man. Thank you, Raphael. Thank you, too. I really appreciate it. Have a great day.

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