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The podcast hosts discuss their interest in exploring different sexual experiences and their recent fascination with shibari, a form of bondage. They talk about the lack of mainstream attention given to shibari and share their personal experiences and opinions on it. They discuss the beauty and artistic value of shibari, as well as the power dynamics and communication involved. One of the hosts shares her introduction to shibari through her partner's kink community, while the other host talks about her college experience with shibari. They also touch upon the importance of consent and safe exploration in kink. Hello, and welcome to I'll Try Almost Anything Once. We're two horny, sex-positive gals looking to explore and experience more sexual pleasure by trying new things in our sex lives. Yeah, it can range from anal to using a diva cup to watching deepfake porn or to sexting an AI partner. For us, sex is defined as anything that has to do with our sex organs or if it makes us horny just thinking about it. This is a judgment-free zone, a safe space where we'll talk about whatever comes to mind. And some conversations might be a little less sexy and a little more cultural, but that doesn't make them any less important. Yes, this one is super interesting and something that we have both separately kind of been exploring more recently. Shibari is one of those kinky things that I feel like doesn't really get enough mainstream attention. Everybody knows what a dominatrix is, for example, but have you ever really heard of a rope bunny? Or do you ever really see shibari tying in movies? I personally have not really, and I didn't know what a rope bunny was until I got a little bit more involved with the art of shibari myself. And just for some background there, from what I've learned about shibari, rope bunnies are like the rope bottoms, basically, the partner that likes to be tied up or restrained. Summer, I know you have some cool background information on shibari. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's hardcore. It's hardcore. Yes, very. Oh, yes, I remember it quite well. I've seen his whole documentary twice, and I think, I mean, this could be its own episode alone, but there's a lot to be said there around, like, the consent stuff around kink and how he kind of took advantage of, like, he scapegoated some of the things that he did to people unconsensually and called it a kink, and that is wrong, and I hate that. Anyways, I digress. I'm sorry. Keep going. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. What doesn't have a thriving TikTok community these days? Yes, this podcast brought to you by Pornhub and TikTok. Anyways, yeah, that is a lot of good info. Thank you for doing the research on that. I will say, like, on top of all of that great history, I think that shibari is just, like, such a beautiful, like, form of art and interaction with people. I, like, am pretty new to shibari. I learned about it through my partner's kink community, which is a great place to learn about kink. I learned about it through my partner's kink community. We've been dating, like, two years or so, and so when I started seeing her, I was – she, like, sort of introduced me to kinkier things, and I found shibari, and I was like, wow, that is performance art. On top of being sexy, it's, like, masterful. And, yeah, I think it's beautiful to watch people be tied, beautiful to see when someone is tied. It's, like, a beautiful experience being tied, I think, not that I have too much experience with it. Yeah, it's just, you know, a well-rounded form of kink that I find super mesmerizing. Just a little aside about my obsession with shibari, too, is I recently had a birthday party, and I had an ambient shibari performance that some of my partner's friends did while we had, like, some music going and stuff, and it was so cool. It really added to, like, the vibe of the whole party, and I had several vanilla friends who were there that were just, like, completely flabbergasted and asking so many questions. So it was really, like, fun for me to introduce them to something that they definitely have not seen much of, if ever, and kind of show people how beautiful the, like, unknown and weird little corners of kink can be. Yeah. Anyways, that's me gushing about shibari. How did you get introduced to shibari, Summer? What drew you to it? Okay. Well, you probably were also, like, 20 years old. Yeah. I mean, that has got to be, like, the coolest college class that exists. You got introduced to shibari through higher education, but I for sure would have been nervous. 20-year-old me would have been like, what is this? Yeah, which is very fair, but look at you now, all grown up and leaning into the parts of yourself that say do it. Gross. Okay. So I'm going to go ahead and turn it back over to you, Summer. Okay. Gross. Yeah. I think, like, so other than the artistic value that I'm into, I've also, like, always been super into restraints sexually, for sure. Like, kind of really as soon as I started enjoying sex, which, to be clear, is not when I started having sex. It really, like, I had to understand myself a lot better and my sexuality and, like, start having sex with women to, like, figure out how to enjoy sex with men and anyone. Anyways, like, from pretty early on, I've had handcuffs by the bed, and my partner has restraints that she keeps under the mattress. I just have always kind of been into that, like, power dynamic of, like, not having the control in a sexual situation and, like, trusting the person that you're interacting with enough to be like, okay, you can really do whatever you want it to mean now. So, yeah, that's maybe part of the reason I think Jabari is so beautiful, but definitely something that drew me to it. But I will say it's not all that accessible of a kink. Like, it took me almost 30 years to actually get introduced to it in a way that felt safe to explore. And I know you had that experience in college when you were much younger than me. And, again, will reiterate how much cooler your college was than mine. But how did you get into, like, how did you get started in trying Jabari? When did you get to the point where you were like, okay, I'm going to do it instead of being scared? Oh, yeah, like a hard point. Yeah, that is true. Sure enough, I did meet them. And their setup is pretty cool. And they're also very cool. Oh, yeah, tell me what happened next upon your first encounter with this couple. Yeah, it's like, what are the icebreakers for that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. As a beginner, you probably want to, you know, let the expert take the lead. Do kind of want to double down on that point and reinforce how much I love, like, anything that challenges traditional power dynamics. I also, like, love about Jabari that it can kind of go either way. Like, I have, in my experience, Jabari has been, like, very much the dominant. The more the yeah, the dominant one is the one tying or the rigor. And they're kind of like doing what they please to the submissive person. Obviously, like, you have to be very experienced with Jabari because a lot could go wrong, like, could be dangerous. Right. But it's cool that in this situation, he's like, as the rigor, he's like, this is an act of service, you know. Yeah. Yeah, totally. That makes sense to me because it's like when you have someone fully suspended, there's so many, like, pressure points on your body that and you're, like, literally tying people up, like, what if you lose circulation or something like that, you know, or you could get, like, nerve damage. So it sounds like you were kind of in good hands. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, you're, like, getting in at the highest level. You've got, like, the professional Jabari people. You're dialed into the community. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. You know, another thing that's kind of amazing about it is that, like, you really have to rely on communication. Like, it really forces you to communicate and check in with yourself and check in with other people or, like, the people that you're doing it with, especially the people tying you. Otherwise, a lot could go wrong. Yeah, sounds like quite an experience, quite an introduction to being tied for the first time. Well, I guess my question, well, a couple of questions based on that. First of all, did you get turned on? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I guess, like, another question too. So you said that it was, like, kind of a predetermined, like, educational experience, so it wasn't super sexy. But, like, was there any part of interacting with the couple or the guy or the girl, I guess, that was, like, doing anything for you? Or you were, like, or, like, maybe if you think it had been somebody else, maybe it could have done something for you. I don't know. I'm just curious how much it had to do with, like, the people versus the act itself. Yeah. Cool. That totally makes sense. It is kind of interesting. Oh, go ahead. No, I was just going to say it is kind of interesting, like, doing things that, like, do turn you on without the people that turn you on or, like, without or with, like, there being boundaries around, like, being able to be turned on by people. It's, like, not super often that you're intentionally going into a space that's, like, something that could very well, like, sort of is designed to turn you on. There's, like, a seductive component of the art or the activity without people that you're, like, sexually attracted to or interested in, which I guess is kind of the cool thing about kink in general. It's like, okay, we're going to do all this crazy kinky stuff and maybe we're just going to do it as friends and we're super open or we're going to do it with a partner, partners, whatever. We're going to learn it in a class and then we're going to take it home and do it in the bedroom. I don't know. I'm scrolling now. Yeah. Yeah. That is super interesting, too, because I'm actually, like, not that touchy of a person either, I don't think, you know, like, hugging my friends or, like, cuddling with my partner or something, but I am just, like, wildly sexual. So I don't know. Maybe that's, like, wanting to, like, err on the side of having more boundaries with people who I know I'm not, like, sexually interacting with versus not. But another kind of cool thing about Shabari is, like, playing with that line, you know, and having that, like, controlling touch with someone who you're not necessarily sexually, like, involved with but that you've already, like, pre-communicated about not being sexually involved with. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. So, yeah, we love to hear all of that, and I know that we've both kind of been exploring a bit more recently within Shabari, and I just wanted to see if you wanted to share a favorite recent experience you've had or not. It's sick. Wow. That is awesome. I'm also, like, how do people, I mean, maybe she owns her apartment, but I'm, like, how do people in New York have such interesting living spaces? Good for them. Sick. Yeah, rewarding, honestly. Oh, yeah, so I'm based in the Bay, and my partner and I, I'm, like, a very, very amateur DJ, and my partner's a little bit more legit than I am, but we got asked to DJ at an event called the Kinky Rope Jam in Oakland. And, again, I kind of took more of, like, a voyeur stance on this one because we were playing music the whole time, but it was in this, like, community space that probably, that had maybe, like, nine hard points set up, and it was just, like, a party where people are, like, there's, like, mattresses underneath the hard points and stuff. It's, like, a party where people are practicing different ties and tying each other, and there's, like, food. There's some alcohol, but, like, you're definitely not encouraged to drink at all if you're tying or being tied. And it was just so cool to see so many different people trying different things. Like, some people were super advanced and, like, tying in things, like, to the people and, like, doing different positions. Like, there was this one couple who had, like, a bamboo log tied to the rope bunny's, like, arms. Like, their arms were tied around it, and then they kind of tied them into this, like, backwards crescent shape. Yeah, it was mind-blowing. And also, some of it, it was cool just being in, like, a space where a lot of people are into the same thing, and there's, like, a high level of noise because it's a party because I was noticing some people, like, were really letting out, like, interesting noises. Like, there was some sort of more sexual moans and then some sort of, like, shrieks, almost, I would describe it as, like, as if people were in pain and, like, potentially enduring the pain for the art or for their partner, which, you know, kind of gets a little bit into the more, like, impact and, like, pain play areas of kink, which was a whole new dynamic that I hadn't thought of before, being someone who enjoys impact myself. So, yeah, that was definitely a first and such a cool experience, and also the people who put this event on, so cool. There were, like, 200 people there, and it was very, very impressive. So, yeah, that was probably the favorite thing I've done shibari-wise of late. Yeah, I know, crazy, crazy times. Like, the deeper I get into the kink community, the more cool and interesting people I meet, and the more crazy kinky stuff I realize that there is in the world. I know. Yeah, primal is a great way to describe it. It totally did feel primal. And, yeah, I know, I feel like I'm kind of just scratching the surface, too, which I guess is a little bit why we're here doing this podcast. We're like, let us show you how we've stumbled into these different communities so that you don't have to feel weird when you do it yourself. For you, yeah. We'll take on your emotional hesitancy and potential secondhand embarrassment, don't worry, and then we'll describe to you exactly what it felt like. No, honestly, no. I think we're doing great. We're at least doing our best out here, you know. So anyways, this has been fun. I know that we kind of have both been exploring shibari more on our own, in separate directions, which is exciting. Do you think it'll be something you do regularly from here on out? Do you see yourself carrying it through outside of our exploration for the podcast or just like general curiosity? Take your time. I've been tithed, not suspended. So just like some hand tithes for the most part, kind of like some introductory stuff. But I kind of, like, again, I know I really emphasize how beautiful I think it is, but I also do love the restraint aspects. Like, I would love to get more into it with my partner, but she doesn't know how to tithe. So I think it could be something fun for us to, like, learn together, but recognizing that there's a lot more, like, pressure and knowledge that goes into learning it as the rigger versus the rope bunny. And I, myself, am a deeply submissive person. So I do not see myself learning how to tithe or tithing anybody. Yeah, yeah. We're just a couple of subs out here doing our best. Okay. Tat rocks. I love it. Inclusivity and kink. All shapes and sizes work for Shabari. That's a great find. I'm so happy you shared that. Thank you. And I know that we're about at time, and that's all we got for today. So thank you, everybody, so much for listening, and catch us next time here on I'll Try Almost Anything Once. You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and our website. Feel free to like, follow, share this episode if you liked it. Yeah, like us. This is I'll Try Almost Anything Once, and we will see you next time. Bye.