Episode 22- Isabelle

Isabelle Gamera is a 25-year-old living in Houston. She is studying to become a physical therapy assistant and works as a certified nutrition coach. She gained popularity on TikTok with millions of views on her videos. Isabelle is also a hybrid athlete and competes in various sports competitions. She initially started posting on TikTok for fun during quarantine and gradually gained followers. She overcame her fear of judgment and continues to post content that she loves. She believes that even if she can impact just one person, it's worth it. Isabelle's journey on TikTok started in May 2020 and she has seen steady growth since then. She occasionally looks back at her old videos and deletes some of them. Welcome to the Level Up Podcast, Isabelle Gamera, tell us a little bit about yourself. Hi, so my name is Isabelle, I am a 25 year old, I live in the Houston area, I'm currently in school for PTA, so like physical therapy assisting, and then in the meantime I do nutrition coaching, so I am a certified nutrition coach working one-on-one with my clients to help them reach their health and fitness goals, and then also within the past year I've really gotten into social media, so I post a lot on TikTok, Instagram, which has been super awesome, opened a ton of new doors for me, allowed me to work with some amazing companies and brands and just enter a whole new world, which is awesome, but yeah, that's just a little brief intro about me. You're very humble, and so she's like, oh I got into TikTok, social media, so you know, of course to do a good podcast I wanted to do a little research, so I'm linking Isabelle's TikTok, and I kind of wanted to see where it started, and the first number had like 400 views, and then there was, they got to 700, then I saw a few that had 3,000, I'm like, okay, it's getting good, this is building, and then all of a sudden, bang, 32,000 views on this one video, I'm like whoa, and then I keep going up, quarter million views, half a million, three quarters of a million, 1.9 million views, I'm like, this is not normal, like how, how do you even do that, you know, so I saw that, so she's not just a running TikToker, she's, she has different people asking her to be sponsored by them, so yeah, she's the real deal, and you didn't mention your athletic products as well, you're in competitions, you know, if you could just sum that up in a couple sentences. Yeah, so I also am like, I would call myself a hybrid athlete, I used to do within the past like couple months, I just transitioned over to PTA, but I was a certified personal trainer, group fitness trainer, and that really kind of got me into the world of like fitness, and like competitions, I've never really done any type of fitness competitions, and so that kind of led me into that, so I also compete in a couple of different, like I said, just hybrid competitions, but yeah. Yeah, it's amazing, so just to sum that up, she's 25, she has nutrition clients, she has a TikTok following that is unparalleled to the, to the normal person, and she's competing at elite levels in sports competitions, so yeah, no big deal. Going into TikTok, so I think, so how did that start, did you know it was going to be a big thing, is like, you planned on this being something you wanted to pursue, or did it just kind of unfolded by this random accident? So I, like anybody, like in quarantine, TikTok became a super huge thing, just downloaded the app and was just posting like silly pranks or trends, just not really anything serious, just doing it for fun, and then I started to see a lot of fitness influencers, like posting full days of eating, their workout splits, just stuff like that, and I was like, I love this content, like this is so fun to watch. At the time, like I said, I was doing personal training, so I could just relate to a lot of it, 4am wake-up calls, just stuff like that, that I love to watch as a consumer, and so I was like, I'm gonna start posting that, just for fun, like I really didn't have any idea that anything would come out of it, so I started posting for a couple of months, like you said, like 300 views, nothing crazy, probably just my friend's family watching, and then I remember one video, I started posting like meal prep videos, and just, I had just gotten into my nutrition coaching, so I was posting a lot of nutrition type stuff, and I remember one video just kind of blowing up, and not even in the millions, like just like a couple thousand, but I gained like 10,000 followers, and I was like, holy crap, like what is this, like this is insane, just from one video. What were your, so most people when they started, they're very afraid to put themselves out there in social media, because there's the judgment, right, is this any good, like what was some of the emotions when you first started, because people that might not have any kind of following right now, but would love to, and they're just, they just don't think it's possible, and that's an emotional response, they don't believe it, what were your emotions when you're doing that, how did you handle those? So when I started posting, I was a little reserved, like not posting as much about me, more like food content, or like I'm training client content, but not really like day-to-day life of me, because of that reason, like it's just, are people gonna see this that know me, like this is, I don't know, that's kind of weird, and then finally I was like, you know what, like who cares, like I I love fitness, food, all the things, and so what do you mean who cares, like it's so easy to find that, like that is the key to success in any area, I think, so what does that to you, who cares? Well I just knew I was doing something that I love, that I just genuinely enjoy, so I'm like, I just, I don't care if other people think it's weird that I'm posting silly little videos or anything like that, I think that people that know me in real life know that like I really do like live and breathe like fitness, health, nutrition, like I just, not that I do it every day, but I just, I like love talking about it, I love helping people, and so I was like if my video can help like one person, like do a 4am wake up, or have a healthy meal prep, just one person, I'm like then that's enough, like it's enough to post about it. Do you remember the moment, was it a gradual thing, or just suddenly you realized, oh who cares, I'm having a great time, or was it one moment where you're like, you know what, I love this, who cares, I'm going for it, was it like, I think, I mean it's weird because I still will get into times where I will think like, does anybody really care that I, that I did a workout today, does anybody really care what I ate today, like this, just like, is this dumb, and then like within the past couple months even, I was thinking this like one week, I just like went through a week of not posting on Instagram, on TikTok, because I was just like, does anybody really care what I'm doing, and then I got a, I posted a, like it was like a Monday, I started having that feeling, so I just like didn't post, I was like, let me just not, like maybe nobody cares, and this is just silly for me to post, I don't know why, I just got in this mindset, and so I didn't post, and then maybe Saturday we did like a group workout or something, and so I posted the group workout, and I had gotten a message from somebody, and they were like, I look forward to your post every day, you really, I've been on, I've been like falling off, and you really inspired me to get back on, and I was like, see if it's one person, if all I impact is one person, like that's enough, and so, John, can you speak to that, because you've done a lot of social media, put yourself out there, and it really changed the game for you and your businesses, and it's emotion-wise similar? Yeah, I can resonate 100% with that, because I've had people message me, DM me, text me, and it just takes that one person to make the biggest impact, and like that, it brings it back to reality, and it's so surreal for me, it's like, that is why I show up when I don't feel like it, but I'm going to do it anyway, I'm going to make that post, I don't know, so I think over time, you build this like strong backbone, right, you're still going to have your haters, you're still going to have your naysayers, you're still going to have people, yeah, it's a muscle that you're building, because that is when your why is the inspiration and aspiration, when you get people to take action in their own lives, and you are the guy, you're doing that, right, that's the sense of, for me, it's a sense of fulfillment, that's what makes me happy, so I'm like, how do I do more of that? Right. And our message is, stare the dragon in your life down, stare the demon down, that you don't want to look at, because it's too scary to go on social media, too many haters, so I will not do it, I'm going to go distract myself, I won't do what I would like to do, so you're living small, but when you stare it down, and just go for it, and realize I want something, you suddenly realize there is no dragon, there is no demon, it was all in my head, and what I thought was so scary is now a muscle that you grow, and you have this confidence and strength, and that's something I think anyone can do, it's going to push past, you guys push past that tricky little part, but after that, it's all good, I mean, there's still those days, but it's still, you have control over that dragon, you stare it down, very cool, yeah, awesome, so your journey in building the TikTok business, has the brand has gotten you where you are today, right, you put in the reps, you put in the work behind the scenes, how long, you said, so I think I heard you say it earlier, you started the TikTok in COVID? Yes, okay, and what year? No, what year is COVID? When I was looking, it was like you, you're posting 2020, like January-ish, yeah, February, or I guess it was, no, it was May, sorry, so it was two months after COVID, yeah, it was May, and it was like one, was either one a month, or one a week, or three, right, yeah, just slowly getting, yeah, just posting videos that probably nobody saw, but I just was like, we'll see what happens, so do you ever go back and look at those videos when you first, and then, I actually did that a month or two ago, I'm like, you know that I have some people following me, maybe I should go back and see like what videos I posted, like when I was just doing it for fun, like pranks, and just like dancing, I'm like, maybe I should go look at that, and so I went back, and I deleted some of them, because they were just, they were dumb videos of me, just like, I didn't know that, I still got my original videos on there, I still look at them when I need a laugh, I'm like, okay, but yeah, I did go back and look, just at, and at the time, I had a lot more free time to like film content, and so I was like, just looking at like the changes in my content, like the quality and stuff like that, but yeah. That's what I was going to ask you, let's stay on that, so what were some of the key elements you think that that has allowed you to, over the last couple of years, to help you grow, and make the impact that you've made, because you have impacted and served, even though one, two people have reached out to you and said, hey, you're making a difference in my life, but the reality is, there's hundreds and thousands of people behind the scenes that's not reaching out to you, and you're making the impact, you're doing that, right? So what do you feel like some of those key elements over the last couple years have basically exponentially made you grow to where you are today? So I would say, just like, I mean, you guys know me in real life, I really think what I post is how I am in real life, like what I'm eating, who I'm hanging out with, my workouts, like I'm not faking it for the camera, I really do work out that much, and, you know, my morning routine, stuff like that, so I would just say staying true to who I am, even if it's like me not getting views, I'm like, oh well, like, you know, like, this is who I am, this is how I am, and so, right, and I agree, especially in the world of social media, when you have people reaching out to you, hey, I'll pay you x amount of money if you post this video, and it's like, okay, but, you know, I haven't posted about this at all, this doesn't, like, for me to post it is so, like, not authentic, and so just being able to be like, you know, staying true to yourself, staying true to, like, what you know, what you do, um, I think has helped me, because as a consumer myself, like, that's who I look for, you can tell when somebody's posting for money, or when they're posting because they like it, and so, yeah, just. Can you imagine yourself in a normal conversation with your your mom, or your dad, or a friend, and all of a sudden you're, and over here, right, right, what are you doing, man, it's not real, you can feel it, right, it's not right, and you don't have to try when it's, it's effortless, yeah, when you're being true to yourself, because you're just being yourself, right, that's such good advice, yeah, and that is somebody who I want to follow, right, that is somebody, that's with conviction, that's authenticity, and that's, and that's a sense of peace, right, because when you're living authentically who you are, and you show up every single day for that, and then when you put that on social media, and you put that out there for the public, your public figure, that's a beautiful thing, that is a leader in my eyes, right, that is somebody that I want to follow, because I'm like, I want to do more of that, right, I want to, because there's so many people in our lives these days, people around me, and I see this in our community, I see this, you know, they're trying to be somebody that they're not, right, that's right, that pulls peace through, they're chasing, you're chasing, I mean, you've talked about this all the time, Sean, people, people are no different, if you chase a dog, it runs away, but if you start running in the direction, the dog will chase you, right, and we're not saying, people are like dogs, but we are very similar in the sense that when we're trying to sell something, people can feel the squeeze, right, this person just wants something from me, and we don't like that, no one wants to be sold to, people want to buy stuff, but they don't want to be sold to, and you're kind of, you know, running away, but when you're having a great time, and you're like, I'm doing this, regardless, with or without you, people want to be a part of that good time, you're not trying to convince them to come with you, so it's, yeah, it really works, and listen, I dare you to try it, just try not to make things happen, and just yourself, be authentic, but. What would be, since we're on that, what would be one piece of advice, this would be a challenge for you, one piece of advice that you would give somebody that's struggling with showing up their true authentic self, their true conviction, right, like, Isabel, I hear what you're saying, I love what you're doing, you know, you're a public figure, you're, you know, you're living life on your own terms, like, how do you want to live it, and, you know, how do I, what would be that one piece of advice for somebody that's struggling to show up with that conviction, right? Right, that is a hard question. So, I would say, this is what has kind of helped me, which is just, do what makes you happy, a lot easier said than done, but at the end of the day, if you're not happy doing it, like, it's, you're not, I don't know, I just, that's the advice that I would give, which, again, it's a lot easier to say than do, because there's a lot of obstacles to do what makes you happy, or to be able to fit that in your schedule, or whatever it is, but even just the little decisions you're making, like, okay, is hanging out with this person going to make me happy, is it going to, not even necessarily help you, but just, is it going to help grow you, or help move you in that direction that you want to move, so even the little decisions, I think, matter a ton. So, one thousand percent, and I don't know if you want to talk about this, but I feel like this is appropriate, you made a decision, a big lifestyle change here recently, didn't you, right, and that is aligned with who, your conviction, right, your authentic self, right, and you know what I'm talking about, right, I don't know, I don't know if you want to say, but my point is, like, the decision that you made was not aligned with who you wanted to be, and who you wanted to become, and it was, you were not happy, you know, it wasn't enjoyable, right, anymore, so you made a shift, so I can condense what you're saying. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, so on a practical side for TikTok, you know, so that's kind of the mental game, you know, TikTok's, there's all different kinds of social media platforms, what advice would you give to someone that would like to do what you're doing, how could they get started, what was the steps they'd take, the thought process, all that kind of stuff, but yeah, someone was like, well, I want to do what you're doing in this category, like, you know, getting cartoons off of someone, right, that's what I love doing, how could they turn that into a, right, so I actually just had a friend a couple months ago reach out to me for the same thing, and she was kind of like, you know, what advice would you give me to help start this, and I just gave her some, like, analytical advice about TikTok, the app itself, and, like, how to kind of boost it, but then just for her own personal, as well, and what I told her is just stay consistent, like, I get it, it is hard when you post, like, 100 videos and you get no views, like, to be like, nobody cares, this isn't working for me, like, it is hard to stay consistent, especially because it's a lot of work to go, that goes into the videos, to, like, making them and setting them up and editing them, so I get it, but I would say just stay consistent with posting, because all it takes is one video, one video to blow up, and it could change, like, the trajectory of your life, honestly. I think that's why you have to love it, like you said, it goes right back to, if you don't love it, and after 100 videos, no one is watching, and you're going through misery to keep this up, what a terrible time that is. Yeah, if you're posting on something you don't like just to try and blow up, or, like, get followers, yeah, it's going to be miserable, because it is a lot of work. You mentioned that she, what was she trying to do? So, she actually, Megan DeLaCelta, her good follower, she, her and her husband, I met her through training, and they started traveling full-time for, like, their RV, so they sold their house here, sold everything, started traveling, and so she was just like, hey, you know, do you have any tips, and I just told her, posting multiple times a day, like, using trending audios, you want your video to go to the For You page, obviously, if you want to get followers, but also, at the same time, I post a lot of content that, like, I don't want to go off the For You page, I want to go, like, I want to connect with my audience, so just talking videos and stuff like that, and she's done awesome, her content's great, I mean, I think she's, like, at 70,000 followers, so she blew up as well. How long has she been doing it? I don't know, she may be, I think we talked, I mean, sometime this year, so she, yeah, and so it worked, I guess, the advice worked, and, and her dedication, she does post a ton, she did exactly what I said, and she's awesome. I downloaded the TikTok app yesterday, so I can do some research on TikTok. You're behind! Now I'm thinking, what can I do, what do I? Yeah, no, I was just telling Sean's wife, Kendra, I was telling her, you and Sean need to start posting, like, your guys' content, like, I mean, I feel like we're one in the same, we post a lot of the same stuff, and I'm like, you're inspiring, like, we inspire each other, like, your content's awesome, it would be if you posted it, and so she started posting this week, too, and I'm excited to see her, her journey. Isabel, TikTok handle, we in the show notes, and Sean, we need to do 15 videos by the end of the week, and so we can put your link in there. She said three, I heard her say three, not 15. We're leveling up, we're leveling up the team. So on the fitness journey, shifting gears, tell us about that, we'd love to know, you know, the level that you're at is elite, and that is very intimidating to a lot of people, a lot of people look at that and think, I could never do that, that's just not me, I can't even run a mile right now, or I've never lifted weights, were you always elite, did you, were you just born and ready to roll? So I have always been athletic, like, in high school, I played a lot of sports, but I was never, I was never the worst on the team, but I was never the best on the team, like, I was never great at any of the sports, but I was athletic, I guess, and so, really, until I started doing this style of training, I, it didn't, like, click, so I was athletic, like I said, went to college, ended up getting freshman 15, and I worked out with a roommate, but all we really knew were, like, the workouts that we did in high school, like, our volleyball workout, I really didn't know my way around, a weight room I had never lifted, even running was not, like, we did sprints and stuff, but we never, like, ran long distance, and so, I think I ended up buying, like, a program from a girl, like, a fitness influencer online that showed videos of how to do stuff, and I just followed her plan, started losing weight, and I was like, oh, this is actually fun, like, I enjoy this style of training, because all I had known was, like, conditioning and volleyball, and I was like, that's not fun to me, I didn't love that, but once I started, like, all these other styles of training, I was like, oh, like, this is fun, I genuinely enjoy it, this was 2016-17, and then, so, a couple years ago, and then I ended up seeing a group fitness class across the street from my apartment, and I was like, wait, that looks fun, and so, I figured out what it was, I actually started working for them as a personal, or as a group fitness trainer, but, and I started going to those class, and I loved it, I loved the community, I loved just showing up, not having to think about it, and that is really what, like, led me into my fitness journey. Once I was done with college, moved here, started working as a group fitness trainer, and then, it was Camp Gladiator that actually introduced me to fitness competitions, I had never done fitness competitions, a 5K or anything, and so, we did a lot of 5K races with them, we did, they have something called CG Games, I'm actually competing in this weekend with Sean, it's going to be exciting, and so, I was like, whoa, I never knew this world of, like, fitness competitions was a thing, and so, I started, and then it, like, kind of clicked, like, I was never great at volleyball or basketball, but, like, I felt like I was athletic, I guess, and so, like, once the two clicked, it was like, I don't know, I just, like, loved it, and started working, and I started my first couple competitions, I was podiuming, is that a word? I was, like, on podium, and I was like, holy crap, like, not only do I enjoy this, like, I'm kind of okay at it, I'm kind of good at it. So, I was like, it just, you know, helped me start chasing the goal of, okay, I don't want to be third place, I want to be first on that podium, so I just started working towards it, which has helped me become, quote, unquote, an elite athlete. So, yeah, it's been fun, it's really just within the past year that I've started, like, these elite races, and, like, leveling up my fitness completely, but I've enjoyed every second of it. So, you started really nowhere, if you think about it, where most people are right now, though, the same people are saying, I can't do it, you just said, I'm going to do it, and it's, and it led to you getting a little fitter, then, I don't know if I picked that up right, that transition into college, and what was that? So, once I started the group fitness training, I was, or when they started the classes, I was, like, 20, you know, just fit for a 20-year-old, you know, could run all day, just whatever, and they approached me, they're like, dude, you have to be a trainer, and at the time I was in college, I'm like, I have too much on my plate, like, it's technically, like, starting your own business, I was like, I can't do that right now, like, it's just not, like, in the cards for me. Once I moved to the Conroe area, I started working at a dental office, and started going back to those same group fitness classes, and a trainer approached me and was like, have you ever thought about doing this, like, you know, you really like it, you're really good at it, have you ever thought about it? I was like, you know what, I actually have, and then that changed it. I started doing group fitness classes, like, I would wake up at 5 a.m., go teach a class, and then go work a 9 to 5, and then go teach a 6 p.m. class, and so that was my schedule for a while, and then COVID ended up hitting, and our office shut down, the dental office I was working at, and that led into, like, a great transition of me just being like, you know what, let me try fitness full-time, let me, if it doesn't work, I can always go back to the dental world, but I'm just going to try it out, like, what's the worst that could happen? I fail, and then I will, it is what it is, so I tried it out, and I've been doing it ever since. It's interesting, I've been in fitness, and so I remember I was doing, like, these things called chest expanders when I was 10, and I watched the Rocky movies, and I started doing pull-ups, I'd get a baseball bat, and put it as a chin-up bar across two doors, and I'd do pull-ups, and so I've always been into fitness, and looking back to myself, played rugby in Scotland growing up, and that crossed for a really long time. I've never associated this with, until recently, that people who work out, and the stronger, fitter, healthier they get, the more things are happening in their life in general. I'm connecting now, all that you've done with TikTok, it's not normally you're able to do that, you push through, there was a confidence there somewhere, and I believe that it's more than ever now, it's coming from a fit mind, right? Like, when your body's fit, your mind is fit, and if your body's not fit, your brain, it's just very difficult for the brain to be healthy, and if anyone can just get a little bit of momentum going in their fitness world, I guarantee they're going to see things in their business world, their relationship world, because I know, Sean, you have just elevated yourself on the elite level as well, with like, doing the ultra Spartan 50K, I mean, you won that thing, and at the same time, your businesses are just booming, you're starting new ones, and the same with you as well, it's just the connection. I've been really upping my game, so I've always been in fitness, been upping my game, probably the first year of my life, I'm 42, and I'm in the same boat, everything I'm touching, everything I'm doing is just clearer, and I'm having much more success doing these things, so, just the connection there, for anyone listening, man, if you're struggling in your relationship life, or your business life, man, start digging into your fitness just a little bit, you don't have to go try and be an elite athlete today, but just, man, go for a mile walk, or a 400 meter walk, or something, just something to get going, but. Yeah, I completely agree. Yeah, it's like the Apple Watch, they have the 10,000 steps, you know, they start there, I remember when I first started, my walking, and then jogging, and then my running journey, it's like, once I hit that 10,000 steps on my Apple Watch, it explodes, it's like fire, let's go, congratulations, sometimes, weird things like that, and it's, we're human beings, we want to see progress, and when you're on the podium, some of the things that you've done, you hit your 100,000 plus subscriber, and all these things, all these achievements, all these milestones that you've hit in your life, it's created, it's like, oh, what I'm doing, the reps that I'm putting in behind the scenes is actually working, right, I'm making an impact in somebody's life, I'm getting these subscribers, I'm serving people, and it's a beautiful thing, and I think, to answer your, to dust off what you're saying, once you start that, those baby steps, right, and then crawling, and then standing up, walking, and then walking to jog, and then jog to run, it's like, you create this momentum, and then you stay, that's a snowball effect, right, and you keep that going, and then you're like, well, I'm doing this in health and wellness, fitness, why can't I do this in other areas of my life? It builds confidence. It builds confidence. If I do here, it means I can do there. If you don't know that feeling, it means you haven't really started to do it yet, but if you start doing it, it builds in other areas, where you are in one area, but you're in the other area, it's just the way it is. And I would say, like, the first thing that popped in my mind is like, okay, well, hey, Sean, you, and Isabel, like, it's super overwhelming, I hear what you're saying, everything that you guys are talking about, but where do I start, right, and we kind of mentioned that, right, baby steps, where is it in that area of life, where you can take that one little step, and then build on that, right? It's not there, just do it, stare it down, and make it happen, man. Yeah, it's like when you set out for the TikTok, right, I don't think, correct me if I'm wrong, you're like, I want 100,000 followers, right, it's like, I'm going to start posting videos. I hit like a thousand, I was like, holy cow, this is crazy, right. 100,000 is a chasing motion, and people will want that 100 so bad, so that you can have and be whatever, but that's a you thing, as opposed to, I'm doing this for me, I'm having a great time, people will then chase you, it's one or the other, there is one in the middle I'm working on, it's contentment, where you're not running or chasing, and then there's more people to come your way funnily enough, but it's more on the side of doing your own thing, and people will follow you. I've got a quick question for you, Isabel, how, and we'll wrap this up, but how important would you say health is for you, like where would you say it's priority in your life right now? It's like at the very top, so just on what y'all were saying, like when I complete a workout, I'm like, and right now my workouts are pretty intense, because I am training, but they're not like this year round, but when I complete like a hard workout, I'm like, I just did that, like I just did, it does, it gives you a confidence of like, I can do that, I can do this, I do my workouts in the morning, so it just starts my day on such a good note, like I'm like, I've already worked out, I've like done a hard workout at that, like I don't know, it is definitely up there right now, although I assume it will always be up there for me, again right now it is a little bit more intense than normal with my workouts and stuff, but it is, it gives me like clarity of mind, that's the tone for the day, like it's definitely at the top for me right now, and I'm just at the stage in my life right now where it can't be, I get like, maybe you're a new mom and it can't be at the top, like understandable, baby steps, it doesn't have to be, not everyone's on the same journey, right now I am, you know, mid-20s, no kids, I'm able for me to put all my like time and effort into it, so yeah. And we've mentioned a little bit earlier, all this that you've done has led to even more good things, so a lot of people reach out to Isabelle on TikTok, trying to get her to sell products for them, because there's a lot of eyeballs on her, but there's one in particular of me, which I'm very excited about, it's Nick Barry, he's a hybrid athlete, you know, a million subscribers on YouTube, we watch his videos, very inspirational to us, and we've really kind of followed his program for a while there, and his company is called VPN, does a bunch of stuff on it, and they have reached out to you to sponsor you, and tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, so I get a good amount of messages daily for people reaching out, a lot of them are irrelevant, it's like this clothing line, or this jewelry, or furniture, that just like doesn't align with me at all, and it's probably just, maybe they're robots, who knows if it's even legit, but so I, and if you follow my TikTok, I actually have never done a sponsored post, just because, I don't know, I just have, I don't want to post anything that I don't love, and it's not the money for me, so, which has been awesome, it's like one of the best decisions, that it's not my full like time job, because I'm able to be like, no, I don't want to post that, I don't, you know, so I have a lot of people kind of reach out to me, and they actually reach out to me in September, and I miss their email, and if you follow, you've seen that I use their products a lot, I use their pre-workout, I'll do their protein, stuff like that, so they reach out to me, I miss their email, and then I had, they reached out again last week, and I'm like, hey, just check me back, I know you're probably busy, but like, we were really like, we love your message, we love your brand, and they're like, we would love to send you some stuff, and there's a lot of different ways that like, sponsored posts work, like people can be like, hey, we want you as an athlete, hey, we want to pay you for this, they were just like, hey, we would love to send you products, like if you like it, post about it, if you don't like it, you don't, like don't, and I love that, that's like my favorite type of partnership, because I don't want to pressure them into doing something, I don't want to post something if I don't like it, and my message, and their message really align, so that just works out perfectly, and I've already like organically been using their products before, even knowing that they wanted to send them to me, which is another tip, by the way, that I would give people, like just stuff like that, so it was a random protein that I never used in my life, and I just posted one day, hey, try this, and people would be like, what, like I've never, you post, you're eating all day, and like I've never seen that, so that is like those hands, yeah, so it's awesome, because again, it's just something I naturally already use, and they are just gifting me a product, and I'll just post for them, it's one of their like seasonal proteins, and stuff like that, so super exciting, because yeah, I love him, I love his message, and his everything he stands for, so I'm happy to post about stuff like that. Well, I gotta admit, for the record, I'm a little jealous, you guys, you've never reached to this, man, reach out to your boy. I texted his wife, and I was like, Sean's gonna be jealous, guess who I just got a message from, and he's all these things, as well, you're 25, and you've got so many amazing things happening, and we've discovered by talking to you, they weren't just, you weren't just born to do it, like you put the reps in, you just put one in front of the other, and all these beautiful things have happened, you put yourself in a position for good things to happen, it wasn't just a gift, you know, which is great for everyone here, because there's, there are certain people, that's just a natural talent, and I don't really, that's great for them, but I love to see people, because I'm on the same way, I know if I can see someone else do it, that means, yeah, there's a shot, I can do it too, if I do the right thing, so, you know, going into the future, what is, what does the future look like for you, I'm sure you haven't thought, like, you know, five years, 10-ish years, what do you see with all this? Yeah, so I, like I said, just within the past year, it's like right at the year mark, where I just started, like, competing in these fitness levels, so I would love to see within the next five years, hopefully, I'm competing in, like, higher level, and I'm just continuing to grow, especially because, I don't know, right now, like I said, I have the time to devote to that, so that on the fitness side of things is where I look, I plan on the professional side of things, I hope to just keep growing my TikTok, love it, hope to help impact people every single day, and then also, like, I'm getting my PTA license, so I'm also being able to impact and help people recover from things like injuries, and just help them in that aspect. That's some future TikTok content right there. Oh, yeah, we just had a session before this, so yeah, hopefully, professionally, I'm helping people in health and fitness, online is the same, I plan to continue nutrition coaching as well, because I really do, like, am super passionate about nutrition, and I hope that I can continue doing that as well, so, yeah. So cool. Yeah, so, last question for you, what advice would you give somebody that's listening to this, like, a young athlete, gal, or guy, that can help them believe in themselves to level up and start their journey? So, I would say, we kind of mentioned this already, but just babysit, like, you don't have to come out of the gate taught, and I think the number one reason that people fail when they try to get into fitness, or anything in life, is they go, they're like, well, I'm gonna start waking up at 4 a.m., I'm gonna drink a gallon of water, I'm gonna eat healthy, all on one day, and, like, that's just unrealistic, like, baby steps, start with just drinking water, and then once you've mastered that task, then try to implement, like, working out daily, once you've, so just slowly implementing it, just in any aspect of life, even with, like, posting on TikTok, social media, just start out slow, definitely stay true to what you believe in, make it fun, again, just in any aspect of life, but, yeah, I would say. What about accountability part of it, you mentioned that already. So, I am, I put it like this, I am huge on accountability, so I started my fitness journey by doing a group fitness class, because that is what held me accountable, you see the same faces every day, if you're struggling with fitness, I would definitely recommend getting into group fitness, I taught group fitness as well, and I actually met Sean through, I was training him in group fitness, so it's just, it's a great stepping stone, you don't have to worry about what you're doing, nobody's paying attention, afraid to go, there's a growth, very intimidating, you know, someone that might just have no fitness level, and just too scared, too embarrassed, there's a big dragon there that wants to stare down, what would you say to them, how would you get them there? So, when I first started going to the group fitness class, like I said, I really didn't know much about like weightlifting, or just anything like that, bring a friend, number one, like it helps to have somebody that you know is there, but two, in my experience from attending and also training, is no, like everyone's there to work on themselves, everybody is focused on themselves, nobody, it may look like, or you may think people are looking, or just something like that, but truly, I think 99% of the time, like they're just, people are worried about themselves, they're there for the same reason as you, they're there because they need the accountability, they're there because they want to build friendships in the fitness world, so I would say, just try it, try a class, and hey, maybe it's like a yoga class, and you don't like it, hey, try a different class, like there's so many different things, and one size doesn't fit all when it comes to fitness, I mean, what's the worst that could happen, you hate it, and you never go back, but, I mean, there's no harm in trying. And 25, you're speaking words of wisdom, honestly, I'm 42, and I was in the future, I have two kids, what, you know, my career, and business, and I'm super inspired, and what's most inspiring is just, I know it to be true, I know the words, logically I know, but just hearing, like actually doing, taking those baby steps, I resonate with that, and there's so much more that I could do, not because I have to, or feel insufficient, I'm very content, I'm super content in my life, I want to do more because it's available, and enjoy it, and just hearing you say that, man, there's so much more potential to just explode life even more, and I'm super inspired, I'm super grateful you came on the show. Likewise, very grateful, you're an inspiration, you're a rock star, you are a leader, and I've always said this behind the scenes, but I'm saying it for the record, and for our listeners and audience, we want to support you, how can we support you, how can our listeners and audience, and friends, and family, and community, and everybody listening to this globally, how can they support you? Yeah, so if you want to follow along with my journey on both TikTok and Instagram, my username is Isabelle underscore Jade, J-A-Y-D-E. Yeah, so if you just want to follow along with the journey, I would love to have you on my page, and yeah, I just, that's the best way, I just come follow along the journey. Awesome, awesome. Thanks for coming on, Isabelle. Yeah, it was fun. Great time listening to you, I've learned a ton, and I'm very excited. Love it, thanks.