Episode 20 Body

Gordon's journey started with a supportive family. His dad's sales career influenced him, while his mom's teaching career showed him the importance of serving others. He played football in college, but initially gave up on it until a former coach encouraged him to try again, leading him to make the team at Sam Houston State. After graduation, he worked in outside sales and found success through hard work and building trust with customers. The transition from college to a career was challenging, but he focused on being a reliable and self-motivated employee. His upbringing and ability to build trust played a significant role in his success in sales. Gordon? Yes, sir. I believe so, yeah. You were born and here you are now. What has the Kyle Rogers journey look like? Yeah, so my journey, it's a simple journey. You know, I had a great childhood. I grew up here in Conroe. Went to school here. Both my mom and dad working family. My dad, he's been in sales overhead cranes for the better part of 30 years. So seeing him in a sales role, I think kind of projected me to some of the areas I'm in today. My mom, a servant's heart. She's been a school teacher for 30 years within Conroe ISD. She actually retired, then went back to teaching. She teaches at Sacred Heart now, third grade. So, you know, she's molding the kids of our future. It's something I never really realized, you know, growing up. But, you know, she's doing an amazing job. I've also got a sister. She's four years younger than I. She's married. She's got a kid. Great husband and, you know, they're building their life together. So yeah, great family, great support structure. I grew up here in Conroe. Went to high school. I graduated from Caney Creek. Sean, you may have heard, you know, Kendra was in high school with me. She was a year ahead of me, but I graduated in 2008. From there, I went on to play some sports. I was chasing the football dream for a long time, and I bounced around. I went to Texas Lutheran right out of high school. It's a small d3 college in Sagin. Went there, gave it the good old college try, but I wanted more, right? So, I actually was going to go to A&M. I was going to say, okay, well, I guess I'm done with football, right? And so, I went to went to A&M, went to Blinn, was going to do the whole program to go into A&M, and I was actually home for a summer, and one of my old coaches, he was our Spanish teacher. Coach Garza is what we called him. The guy, he was a huge guy. He played indoor football, arena football, and I was telling him, I was like, man, I think I'm done with football. He's like, I don't think you are. I'm like, well, what do you mean? He's like, train with me this summer. Let me get you ready. I said, well, what am I going to do with that? He's like, go walk on somewhere. I said, alright, I'm in. Let's do it. So, he trained me for a whole entire summer. I mean, I was, let's see, that was right after high school. So, I was probably about 19 at the time, 18, 19. So, that's been about 2009, 2010. So, your mind came out of football. You said you were done, and then you pulled back in. That's an interesting thing to think about. How did you, if you're thinking off this direction, he pulled you back in. What was it that re-sparked that? Was it his vision for you, or how did you, what was the belief there? Yeah, I think it was, you know, having somebody to push me in that capacity. You know, I hadn't had that since high school, you know, with coaches pushing you along, you know, kind of providing that program. And when you get out of high school and you get into, quote-unquote, the real world, you know, things, you're still trying to figure things out, but having somebody step back into my life and say, hey, here's what you need to do. I'm going to help you. And once I realized that, I was all in. Yeah, and we trained hard, and he set me up for success. You know, I went up to, so I ended up at Sam Houston State, walked onto the football team there, I made the team. And without him, you wouldn't have done it. I would not have done it. You know, it's, I like to say, you know, things happen for me, not to me. So, that situation occurred, and, you know, looking back and reflecting, you know, Sean, you invited me to this podcast really made me start taking an inventory of things in my life. And, you know, you don't always, you don't realize the situations you're in when you're in them, but now looking back, I see that as a really pivotal moment, because if I wouldn't have gone to Sam Houston, if I wouldn't have, you know, walked and tried out for football again, I don't know where my life would be. You know, I may have gone a completely different direction, and then I would have always had that insight of, man, what if I did try? Or what if I could have? But I didn't have that. I saw it through, and, you know, that was a chapter in my life. And, you know, that chapter ended, and I graduated Sam Houston in 2012. Very cool. Great story, man. I love to hear that. What was the transition that, from out of college to, did you know exactly, did you already have something set up or lined up out of college, like as far as career? Man, so, college for me, as a typical college kid, I was showing up, showing up to classes that I had to show up to. You know, school was not on the forefront of my mind. You were a C student? Oh, D. D? I had no relationship to get to the C. Yeah, man, I was D, and then I figured out, oh, if I study a little bit, I'll get a C. And I remember my first A was Music Appreciation, and then I realized, what a waste of time, but I figured out how to get a little bit better grade and end up with a C. But what was your, what did you end up getting, like, average grade on average? Well, you know what they say, you know, D for degree, right? No. I love that. No, no. I've never heard that. I think I was a B student. Yeah. I think I was a B student. You know, I really started getting my act together towards the end of my college career, realizing, hey, I need to buckle down, get ready for, you know, what's to come next, so I ended up getting through college in four years. But, you know, just like any typical guy, you know, I was there for the class, the camaraderie, but, like, hey, where's the next party? Hey, what are we doing this weekend, fellas? And, you know, it evolves, right? So I got a business degree, had no idea what I wanted to do, you know, I did not, I was not thinking that far ahead in life at that time, you know, I just, mental capacity was not there, you know, whether that's on me or whether that is what it is, but I graduated, right? I got, because that's what they say, go to college, you get your degree, then you find a job. So that was the path I was on, and that's what I did. And, you know, after college, graduated in 2012, two weeks later through a friend of my dad's, his son was working at a company called Fastenal, and I went to work for them two weeks later. I had no idea about the company. What was the role that you were in? So I was in outside sales. So I had a small little territory out of Cleveland, Texas, and, you know, I worked the territory. I started from the ground level out of the store, managing the territory, and then I started working my way up into different roles. How were you successful in sales? Because sales is not, people think sales, but really it's, there's a lot to it, a lot of psychology, it's a lot of relationship building, which is everywhere in life. You know, how did you do so well in that? A lot of people try it and they just, they don't do well, they don't figure out, they don't stay long enough, but you obviously find success. How did you build those relationships, or what did you do? What was your strategy to be successful in sales? So to back up, just a step to set that up, right? You know, throughout high school, throughout college, you know, I didn't have jobs. I was a sports guy, you know, and luckily my parents gave me the ability to really follow that passion. It wasn't a requirement. So when I did graduate and I got my first job, I was like, what in the world is this? You know, I'm here from seven to five. You know, I'm, there's no breaks. Like, this is a year-round thing, you know? And I had a tough time. I was like, man, this is brutal. And you know, something that my dad told me one day that instilled a lot in me, he says, hey son, you wake up in the morning, you put your boots on, and you go to work, and you do a good job, and you just keep pushing. And so I took it to heart, and you know, that's what helped me in sales, right? Yeah, 100%. You know, there wasn't a secret formula, right? I think in sales, you have to create your own, right? So what drove me to where I got was hard work, you know, the ability to wake up, go out, get the job done, meet the people, execute on what I would say I would do, you know, and just keep that snowball effect going. So that's kind of where I went. Transitioning from college to your first job, first career. You knew hard work. You knew that, right? That's what your dad told you you knew. That's just how you had to show up. What were your struggles and challenges that you faced that 12, 18, 24 months? I think it was, you know, paving that path, understanding where does this go? How do I fit in? This is the new life, you know, right? You know, there's nothing, you know, there's fallbacks, right? But, I mean, you're graduating college. You're in life. It's your career now. So where do you go and how do you find where you fit in these pictures and, like, where do you, you know, find your fit? Because I think that was the biggest struggle was, like, well, who is the person that I'm going to be? Who's the salesman? Who's the employee I'm going to be, right? Am I going to be the employee that gets the job done and doesn't have to be micromanaged? Or am I going to be the employee that, you know, a boss is always questioning and wondering about, right? So, you know, I always made sure I was the guy that would get my work done. Hey, give me a little direction. I'm going to go and do it and get it done, right? Yeah. You know, you're saying it like it's some common thing that's quite rare when you're talking about, like, how you've done that. Would you say upbringing? Since all that, and another thing that I know for that is I can tell just as I was talking and it just clicked and hit on me was sales. It's all about trust. As soon as you trust someone, you do business with them. And you're very hung up three or four times. Sure. You just hit me. You strike me as someone I trust immediately. Is that, like, where'd that come from? You know, it's funny you mention that because I've always found myself in situations with customers or, you know, new friends such as your guys yourself, but people can open up and talk to me, you know? True. And I have a thought that I'm a pretty good listener, right? You know, I can be reserved and quiet at times, but I'm always listening. So I feel like I give a good ear for people. Yeah. And trust is a big thing, right? And I don't take that lightly. You know, you have to build trust with people. You have to build that respect. But, you know, you receive what you give. So with that being said, while we're on this topic, how did we meet? So, man, how did we meet? It's an interesting concept. You know, we met, luckily, through you, Sean, you know, making the first approach, right? But this is October 17, 2023. So I don't know when you're listening to this, but we met just a few weeks ago, right? Yeah, just a few weeks. Just a few weeks, and, you know, we're already to this point right now. I think that says a lot about the groups here. But, you know, I'm from Conroe. I've been around. You know, I work from home. So occasionally I go to different coffee shops to work just to get out of the house. And I knew Kendra and social media, right? So I knew who you were, Sean. I knew you all were married and everything. And I kept seeing you guys around. You started out with you and a couple guys, and this group kept getting bigger. You know, I could overhear conversations. Like, man, these guys are, you know, they're on the right path, right? So there was already a form of level of respect. Like, from the outside looking in, I could see it, right? And then, yeah, it just so happens, actually, you two, you know, were eating lunch, right? And I was in behind you guys and sat down and was eating some, you know, the famous salada. Yeah, I thought of it. Yeah, yeah. And you actually happened to walk up and introduce yourself, man. And then, you know, that's just another door. What did I say to you, Kyle? Do you remember what I said to you? It was something along the lines of, hey, man, you're in pretty good shape. You know, my name's Sean. Sean sat down with me, and he was like, he sat down with his bowl. I was already eating my salad. It's a lot of, and he was like, man, you see this, the physique of that guy? He's like, he's keeping his time. I was like, yeah, man, that guy's in good shape. And Sean was like, I'm going to go sit with him. Yeah, that's awesome, man. That's awesome. And it's funny because I walked over there, and as I was talking, picture this if you're listening to this. Kyle had a burrito, and he had just bitten off a huge chunk of the burrito. He was trying to answer me, but it took like 30 seconds for him to answer me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, caught me right in the mid-chew. But, man, that's how you evolve in all areas of life. You have to be able to step up and reach your hand out, right? Because if you don't, like we were talking about this morning, how many relationships maybe you have walked right past that you didn't know of? And it's fear holding people back. Exactly. If you just push past that fear, what is on the other side of that? Like the benefits, the beauty, and yet most people just don't do it. And it's a skill that can be learned. Watching Sean do it that day and just having this conversation, I'm now actively looking for situations where I can, man, I'm going to just test the waters here, see what happens. Go say hello to someone. Absolutely. And here's what's interesting is I was fearful to go over there deep down inside. Sure. Go over there and shake your hand. You didn't lift it. You didn't lift it. You were like, I'm going to go say hello. It was almost intimidating to me because I've been the shy, the timid guy that didn't go up and say hello. That was me in high school. Sure. And so it's like Jim Rohn said, right? Things change. We have to change. So I have to be intentional about that. When I came up to you that day at Solana, I was like, here it is, this good-looking guy, in shape, good physique. I'm going to go up and introduce myself. I had to be intentional about it. But deep down inside, I'm like, don't do it. Don't go over there and say hi. But every time I have done the things that I didn't want to do, but I did it anyways, right? This is, here we are, seeing it across from each other. I know. Right? And building this relationship. There's so many people thinking, I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that. How many words was involved? Like you walked over and said X amount of words. Yep. It was basically hello. And the fear is what we talked about in the run this morning. They're going to say, get out of my face. I'm not going to shake your hand. I don't want to meet you. And when does that ever happen? It doesn't. I'm just super happy to say, hey, how you doing? Thanks for coming and reaching out. And that is going to be 99% of your experiences. And there's nothing to lose and everything to gain for people to do those things. So I'm curious. So when I did come over there and approach you, right, on both sides of things, what was going through your mind from the person that was receiving it that's coming up to me and talking to me during lunch? Because in the past, I would have been like, I hear this all the time from friends and family. I don't want to interrupt them. They're eating. They're on their time. I don't want to go over there and bother them. Right. That didn't go through my mind. No. Right? How did you receive it when I came over there and talked to you? So the way I receive it is you never know what somebody is going through that moment of that day. But to be able to extend the handout for a simple gesture could make the difference in somebody's day, right? So, you know, I try not to think about the interruption or the inconsistency, right? Like, hey, I'm interrupting you. I wasn't thinking that at all. I'm to a point where I'm open to the conversations. I'm open to people coming into my space. And obviously, Sean, we could tell there was the energy of like, hey, this guy is putting in the work. These guys are, I know what they're about. And you want that type of people around you in your life. So, you know, to me, that interaction, I think it was overdue. Because I'll be honest, there was times where I could have probably approached you and your group of guys. But, you know, the fear and the intimidation does creep in at times. So, you know, kudos to you for, you know, doing that, man. That's so easy to not do it. It's like in your mind, like, how many times have I been thinking to myself, like, well, that looks like a cool thing, cool group of guys that are doing things I like. And you're like, it's just easier to not. It's so easy to not do the things. But again, what is the payoff? Like, look at what we're doing right now. We're in this room, having a conversation and the future things we're going to do together is just amazing from just a short connection. And speaking of that, so you've been in sales, you know, you grew up here locally and you've been very successful at it. You've moved up the ladder and you've been headhunted and everything and moved up the ladder. And now we're on to the real deal, the big thing, which is access recovery. Yeah. Give us a little insight to what access recovery is now. So access recovery evolved, right, from, so my business partner, Chris, who is actually just four years ago was my neighbor, right? It's been a crazy evolution that, you know, a guy that was just a random neighbor to a guy that became a really good friend, a close friend, you know, somebody that I lean on, look for support and then now become a business partner. Right. So Chris and I, in our journey, you know, to take a step back about three years ago, we really, between him and I, we decided to make changes in our life. Did we know we needed to change? Maybe. Did we know what that change is going to look like? No idea. Right. But, you know, him and I jumped in together. We started that program 75 hard, which you probably have all heard about. You know, this was three or four years ago before it was mainstream popularity. Yeah. That's Andy Purcell. Yeah. So it's a mental toughness program. 75 days. Okay. Yeah. So you have to work out twice a day, one being indoor, one being outdoor. You have to read a book, drink a gallon of water, no alcohol. It's a total life reset. And, you know, him and I were both needing that in our lives. And, you know, just so happens we linked up and were able to do it together, which made a world of difference, right? We had an accountability partner with one another when we didn't even realize what we had, you know. So we started, you know, about three years ago, really diving into this, you know, shifting our life, shifting our focuses, right? Didn't know where the path was taking us, but we were on the path and we were committed to stay on the path. And so as the workouts evolved, you know, we were just doing gym workouts and then it evolved to us walking and then it evolved to us walking with a weight vest. And then it evolved to, hey, I'm going to run a mile. Hey, man, I'm going to run two miles. Hey, man, I just ran three miles, right? You know, it evolved and it started evolving and then we got into this endurance type of working out and being, you know, endurance athletes, right? You know, Chris is running 50 mile races just for fun. You know, this guy's putting in the work. But what came with that is the ideas of, man, we can change our lives like we're doing. What more can we do? You know, both Chris and I have been long tenured employees for companies. Both have excelled. Both are somewhat business savvy, you know, street smarts, whatever you want to call it. You know, we're sitting here thinking, like, man, we can do more. We can do more. We can challenge ourselves again. So we started talking, like, what would that challenge look like? Well, man, let's open up a gym. I was like, well, yeah. I mean, we're both into working out. We're both, you know, on this path. But do we want to be another gym, right? In Montgomery County, there's like 24 gyms, I believe. There's a lot of gyms. So we kind of, you know, debated on it, you know, kind of spun our wheels on it. And then as we started elevating our protocols and, you know, us running, us lifting, what occurred? Fatigue, injuries. You know, I experienced a knee injury. And so we started looking into some protocols on, hey, man, we probably, we're putting our body through a lot. We need to respect our body and start aiding in recovery. So we started, you know, doing the Norma Tech compression sleeves. You know, Chris started out putting ice in his spare bathtub and we'd get in there and do ice baths. You know, we started hearing this stuff on podcasts. And I don't remember the date, but we were working out at Chris's house one evening and we were talking about, hey, you know, I'm stretching a little bit more. I'm doing some recovery. My body's feeling good. And we both kind of looked at each other and we're like, man, what about a recovery business? Yeah, let's go. And I'm like, man, I don't know. I was like, so we had, in the past, we had. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was kind of it, right? In the past, we had searched it out. We did some cryotherapy and it was this one place in the back of the woodlands that we had to, like, search for. Never thought anything of it, right? We just kept going on. But then we're like, man, what about a recovery business? And that's where it started. We're like. When was that? How long ago was that? That was probably in December. It was getting cold outside. It might have been late November, early December. And we're like, man, what about a recovery business? December of 2022? Yeah, 2022. Yep, last year. So, you know, we started kind of really thinking about it. And, you know, after that night, I literally sat in bed for, like, the next week, could not sleep. My mind was just spinning. Spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning. I'm like, man, I think we're all. We're texting each other. Man, I think. Yeah. When you get on to something, you can't sleep because it's. Oh, it's just driving. It's crazy. You weren't getting paid for that. No. You had an idea. Guaranteed, I already know you weren't thinking about the money. You were thinking about what is possible of this thing being something. Yeah. Right? Like, oh, man, that's a beautiful place to jump in. So, we were texting each other. Like, man, I think we're on to something here. I think we're on to something. Like, let's do it. Let's do it. You know? So, we were just. We kept spinning our wheels and kept talking about it, you know, and got to the point we're at today. But. To add on to that, you know, those wheels spin. And that happens to a lot of people. They have great ideas and they're very excited. And then adrenaline and excitement and the novelty of a new idea comes around for so long. And then it tickles off and they don't end up doing it. But you guys pushed through and really. Man, you guys have come so far. I mean, it was less than a year ago. And you guys are getting ready to launch this thing. Yeah. It comes to reality. What would you say some of the key things were to push through? You know, like when people have those good ideas and they end up backing off and fear about this. And how did. Was it just you were so compelled it just kept moving forward? Or what was the. Some of the struggles and the tough times there at the beginning? Yeah. So it all ties back into when we made that transition in our lives is, hey, we're going against the grain here. We're not going to be in the normal normalcy of what society can kind of put you in that box. You know, we really started to figure out how to push that envelope. And I think that's what helped us. Right. So I'll be honest. You know, I've had. I've always wanted to be an entrepreneur at an early age. I've always wanted to be in the fitness industry. I mean, sitting back in college, I've literally sitting there sketching out what my gym would look like, you know, and me being the owner of it. But at that time and where I was at in life, I would let things get in the way. Things would creep into my head. Hey, man, I don't know if you could do this. Are you even supposed to be doing this? That's not you. You know, you're not that guy. And, you know, I think Chris would attest to that as well. He's probably had those same scenarios. But, you know, when we decided and we had talked about it, we came to the point we're done talking about it. We're putting action in play and we're going to do this. You know, so we just pushed ahead. And, you know, I filed for the LLC in January of this year. You know, me and Chris had talked about it. And I was sitting at the computer one day. I was like, all right, I'm doing it. I'm tired of thinking about it. I'm tired of talking about it. We're going to start the process today. I filed for the LLC, figured that process out. And then I sent a picture to Chris. I said, it's time. And since then it's been complete teamwork and, you know, full steam ahead, you know, trying to figure this thing out. Sean, you've started multiple businesses. Where do you relate? Because you've gone through that multiple times now. Is that similar? Yeah, very similar. I think for me it was about finding the why. Like because I've done so many things in my life where it just wasn't, I had to do something and it wasn't sustainable. Like I would do it and then be like, okay, why am I not hanging in there, right? Why didn't I want to play baseball in college? So why didn't I want to continue it through the major leagues? Well, there wasn't a why. There wasn't a motion. There wasn't a vision behind that, right? Whereas there's young kids that have gone through baseball and college. That's their dream. That's their vision is to be a major league baseball player. That wasn't my why. And for me, same thing, entrepreneur, right? I want to create my own destiny. I want to live life on my own terms. Sure. And, you know, my story was I've gotten terminated, so I didn't want to from multiple employers. So that was my reasoning behind starting the first business that I had started. And, yeah, it was taking that first step, right, the LLC and figuring out, oh, I've got to have the insurance, all that. At the end of the day, if you're an entrepreneur, you're not like all that stuff's important, but that comes with it down the road. You're just trying to do one thing at a time and check boxes and continue. That's the hardest thing is the momentum to get that started, right, the LLC. And what's next? Okay, cool. The facility. Where's our location? Who's our target audience? Who are we talking to? So all these things start hitting your mind. The fun stuff's at the beginning of that mindset, but then that's some tricky, difficult, tedious work. Yes. Both of you guys talked about it already. Sure. Most people are like, ugh, I'm out. So with that being said, great question. You are great. So to dovetail with that, even, the transition in from, okay, cool, here we are, right, and now it's like we're going to start this business together, we're doing the LLC. And I'm curious, like, for you, what was, between you and Chris, and because you're here today, what was the vision? Like, why transition from doing what you've been doing to the business? Our why is kind of centered around, you know, we've been paying the man all these years. We've been climbing that corporate ladder that once you get off that ladder, that ladder's still going up and there's going to be somebody right there behind you to take the next step, right? And, you know, I heard a saying, once you climb that ladder and you get to the top, it's still not your building you're standing on, right? So we wanted to create our own building. We wanted to create our own processes. And we want to see what that looks like, right? Because, you know, we were talking earlier, graduate high school, go to college, get a degree, get you a good job, get you some insurance, get you 401K, you know, stick to the plan and live a life. In the back of my mind, I always knew, like, this isn't, this is not for me. This is, it's always kind of ticking at me, you know? And I did it for a while, and I'm still doing it. I mean, we still have to pay the bills and support our family, right? But you have to have the wherewithal to be able just to step out and do it, and that's what we did. You know, we wanted to create that for ourselves and for our families and for our future. Yeah. Yeah. So cool. Awesome. So as far as the next steps, like you created a vision, here's your partner, you're taking one step after another. So talk to us about some of the, here's the fun part, right, the embracing the vulnerability, right? Some of the emotions of all the last 12 months, you know, as far as, like, fear, anxiety, excitement, because I know I've experienced all those. And was there, what was the moment like? I know we kind of talked about, like, hey, let's take action, and here's why, because this is what society is telling us. But we want something. We want to create life on our own terms. We want to create our own destiny, right? And so you have your reasons behind that, whether it's freedom or whatever it may be. Sure. But I want to know some of your emotions involved, because a lot of times that's where we get stuck from folks that want, you know, that are doing the 9 to 5 or that are existing, living in the rat race, and they don't know how to move through the fear, the anxiety like you have, right? Sure. And you're fresh. Here you are. Yeah. I mean, the fear and anxiety is always there. It's at the forefront. But you have to check those, right? You have to put those to the side and keep pushing through. And, you know, there's been a lot of excitement within it. You know, we're doing things new, different. There's been a lot of uncertainty, like, hey, what are we supposed to do next? Yeah. That's the stuff for everyone. Yeah, and it could, right? It could cripple you. But, you know, we've made sure we, you know, our goal has been every day to do something to move us forward, right? We don't want to sit on things. We don't want to procrastinate on things. Because then when things start piling up and the list gets too big and you just, your mind starts scrambling, you don't get anywhere, right? You're running circles. What keeps you going, though? What keeps me going? Yeah. What keeps me going is 100% my kids and my family. And it's, you know, that three years ago when the transition happened was right about the time I had my first son, Knox. And everything starts to fall into place. You know, people say, yeah, kids change you. Well, it really does, you know? And I just want to make sure that I'm positioning myself to be something that they're proud of and say, hey, my dad's doing it, right? There's that aspect of it. There's that aspect of, hey, I want to be this guy, but I have to make sure, you know, you check your ego, right? I don't want that to get in the way. What I want to make sure is that we're progressing in life. We're going outside of the realm of what's supposed to be done and really creating our own paths there. So my big why is centered around that. And, you know, that's kind of what keeps me going. It's funny because you said a while back there that you run a mile. And Chris kind of did the same thing. You guys were nowhere physically, you know, fit-wise. Like you did nothing, weights, whatnot, but you ran and then just progressed. So it's like baby steps, like each little thing. And it's not just the physical action, but it's what the mind does. But the physical action is a coin in the bank of belief in yourself that things can change and you can progress to become more. And that belief continues to grow. So would you say it's confidence that has built this along the way? Because it started with a run, you know, and then the friendship between you and Chris. It's like the mind starts to believe, I wasn't a runner before. Now I can run. I can do these hard things. And it's blossomed into this. Does that resonate? Because if you reverse engineer it, it started somewhere out of nothing. And then it comes to this point here. Yeah, you have to start walking before you can run, right? And we understand that's a process. But along that process, you build resiliency. Yeah. And your mind gets stronger. Mind and body connections are real things. Yeah. And so when your mind is getting stronger and you can understand your self-worth and what you want to achieve, you know, those types of things become easy, right? Because you know the vision is clear. You know where you want to go. So you start implementing things to get you to that point. Yeah, confidence is big, right? Confidence is a piece of it. You want to be confident in what you're doing. But you also just have to strive forward and get things done. Some people haven't done what you just talked about. And I've done it. Sean's done it. Chris has done it. People that haven't done this yet, they don't understand what we're talking about. Because I'm thinking back to when I heard people talk like this. I didn't know what it was. And only now when I look back to the things that I've done that has built the confidence to allow me to do what I want to do today, people who haven't done it yet cannot resonate. So we're telling them, you know, if people were to try and do what you're doing right now without all that resilience, all the things you've built and the beliefs that you've built in yourself, they would fail immediately. They wouldn't even allow themselves to think about it. But it started with a little step. So people listening, you don't just jump into the deep end. This is a process, like you talked about. You build the belief, the stamina. And you just let it get easier. Like the things that were really difficult before, no problem. Now you're dealing with things that are difficult that in three years will probably be no problem. You're like, snap the finger. It's done. And there'll be new challenges then. So I think for the listeners just to realize, man, it started with a little run and a connection. And it's just built and snowballed. So, yeah, just looking at your story, it's just beautiful, man. And I also want to, so you said it started with a little run, right? One foot in front of the other, starting with a walk and getting a job. But I also heard you say as soon as you met your neighbor, which is Chris, and had a business partner and one of your best friends, right? So it was almost an accountability of leveling each other up. Yeah. There's a support system there. A hundred percent. You said you'd be sitting right here today if you'd never met him, right? Build that back. I don't think I would be because I had the aptitude to want to start that 75-part program. I had heard about it probably six months to a year ahead, and I never did it. I was like, man, that kind of scares me. This is tough. Why didn't you ever do it? I'm sorry? I was scared. I was nervous. I wasn't sure if I could do it. The whole you can't drink, you've got to stay on a diet, it was taunting, right? But him and I were talking, right? And we're like, hey, let's do it together. And we started being these accountability partners to one another, and it helped a ton because our relationship and just like any bro's relationship, right? Hey, man, what are you doing on the weekend? Let's get some brewskis. Let's kick back. Let's watch a football game, right? And that's how it started. Then it started to evolve in, hey, what workout are we doing today? Hey, man, I got a good one. We're about to get some, right? And then it became, hey, man, I'm listening to this podcast. I'm reading this book. And we started talking about those things. The conversation evolved, and we started elevating. We didn't even realize it at the time, but looking back on it, but again, it all starts with just starting the process, you know? You can educate yourself to a certain extent. You can read the books. You can listen to the podcast. But at a certain time, you have to put those things down. You just have to start. But more importantly, kind of like what you talked about earlier is why do people start the process? Why do I take the walk? Why do I take the jog? Why do I take the run? Right. And then during that process, then who do you need to become to where you want to get, right? Sure. For your family, for your kids, for your wife. That's what kept you getting up every single morning and doing the things that you didn't want to do. 100%. Right? It's having that vision, that why. That why, yeah. And that's a big thing. You know, people talk about what's your why? What's your why? And I heard it, and I asked myself, and I couldn't answer it for a long time. Yeah. And I started reflecting on, okay, why are you doing what you're doing? Why are you not doing what you're doing? And I realized, you know, I had to be more intentional about the things that I'm doing in my life, and what am I doing, and what does that connect to? And really, you have to sit back and have an honest conversation with yourself. Yeah. You know, I kept hearing, well, find your why. Find your why. I'm like, how do I find my why? Like, it's not- Spilling the words right out of my mouth. It's not like, it's not hitting me in the face, you know? Yeah. But you have to have that honest conversation with yourself, and I started realizing, well, why do I want to do this? Because I want to be that strong leader of my family. Yeah. I want to be something that my kids and my wife look to, hey, if things go sideways, or things in the world don't add up the way they should, I want them to be able to look at me and say, hey, we're safe. Yeah. You know, dad, husband, we're going to be all right. Yeah. And I want to be around to be able to play football with my kids and run and, you know, train with them. You know, I can't wait for the day when I'm training with my kids, right? Yeah. And then I want to be the grandparent that's still around, not sitting back saying, oh, my legs hurt. Yeah. Man, I'm too old for this. Nah, I'm going to be in the game with them, you know? I'm going to be experiencing it. And the grandkids are going to love that. Yeah. So important, and we can't rush over, is that, man, you mentioned alcohol. And it doesn't have to be alcohol necessarily, but to give up something that you're currently doing that we all know is not good for us, we don't want to look at that because it's painful to think, maybe I'll lose friends if I don't drink. Or whatever drinking is, there's other things, right? And it's the fear of, I don't know what life looks like without those things. That's my comfort zone. But you said it, just having that sit-down conversation with yourself, you have to look, that accountability to yourself, staring the things down that we don't want to look at. If you can speed that process up and realize, get that out of the way, once that's out of the way, then you're freed up to think, what kind of man do I want to be for my family? But things like that are in the way first, and you almost have to get rid of those to know, okay, now that I'm at a level playing field, what's possible? But all that mess is in the way, so me and Sean talk about how can we do more of that, how can we speed that up and assist in a process to help people be able to stare those things down, get it out of the way, and start living their lives. As opposed to existing, you don't know what it is, you're existing, and then you realize what living is, and it's totally different, you know when you're living, and it's hard to know when you're just existing. Yeah, once you remove those distractions that you have, it gives your mind the ability to take inventory of the things that really matter. So that's a huge part of it. Yeah. Yeah. What advice would you give, is that what, what other questions did you have there, or what did you say, Sean? Yeah, no, you hit the nail right on the head. What advice would you give a, so somebody that wants to start their business, or you know, understands like, man, hey, I get it, unclear business, what advice would you give someone that wants to start their business? What would be the couple pieces of advice, or one piece of advice? The advice would be to, I think it's extremely important to find a team. Find somebody that you can have conversations with. You know, nobody can do this stuff on their own, right? I mean, you've got to have people in your corner, and it may take a while to find who that is, but my advice would be to find that support system, find that team, but go for it. You know, cut down the barriers that are pre-existing that we all impose and think that are there. They're really not there. Yeah. Yeah. Just move them out of the way. That's true. And just go for it. You know, you learn by doing things. You're never going to learn by sitting on the couch wondering. Yeah. Awesome, man. When you say team, do you mean partner or team members in the business? Well, it could be anybody. Obviously, when I refer to a team, it's people that are in my corner. Maybe that's your wife. Okay. Maybe that's a father-in-law, a dad, whoever that might be, but find your people, right? They might pick you up. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, we all have those. Many times, you know, there's a lot of people that say, well, I don't have those. I guarantee you do have those. Maybe you're just looking on the wrong spot. Yes. You know. So, started the business, Access Recovery, not even 10 months ago, right? You've been in the process, enduring the suck, embracing the suck, enduring the journey, right? It's been fun. Been a long, yeah. The rainbows and sunshines, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, is there anything you would have done differently? Knowing what you know now? I don't think I would have done it differently because we're, exactly like you said, enduring the process, right? We didn't know what exactly, what was going to be next, what should be done. There's probably a lot of things we should have done prior that would have helped speed this thing up. You know, knowing what we know now, but we would not have known if we just sat back and tried to write this thing out step for step. It wouldn't have happened. That's great advice right there. Yeah. You can't write, you don't know what's coming. If you don't know what's coming. You don't. And our thing is, is, hey, we'll do it right on the next one, right? You know, we'll get it right on the next one. We'll know this prior, but I think you, like I said, you have to get started and you have to learn as you go. You figure it out. You know which direction you're going. Well, let's just start going that direction. Speed bumps are going to come. That's fine. We'll handle them, right? There's no reason to get, you know, overworked or discombobulated, whatever the case may be. Handle the situation. When it arises, get it done. Move on to the next. Yeah. Did you have a question? Just launch date, I don't think. When is it? Before we get to that, I wanted to shift gears. Shifting gears. How has health, nutrition, and fitness played a role in building the business and showing up as a father for your kids and your wife? How has health played a role with you? It's everything, man. It really is. You know, I, so I grew up, you know, I was always in the gym. You know, I was your typical gym bro, lifting heavy weights, working out, and then I'd go to a water burger and get like a double cheeseburger, you know. My head goes, why can't I be lean? Why can't I be in shape, right? But I realized what health is. Health is just not having a six-pack. Health is not just, you know, being able to run 10 miles. Health is an overall well-being, and it's both mind and it's body. The big thing is mind, man. You know, you, your body is going to give you what you put into it. You know, I heard a thing the other day is your body is your vehicle in life. I don't want to be a dump truck or a garbage truck, you know. I want to be, I want to be the nice cars or the nice souped-up F-250 that I have on my vision board, you know. You know, that's what I want to get out of it. But where it all has, where the rubber meets the road is the mind, man. It's, you take care of your body, and you take care of your mind, and you can start thinking and processing things differently than you thought you could, you know. I never knew if I could, but through this process, I've been able to kind of shift things, and everything seems so much clearer now. And, like, challenges, fears, that doesn't make me scared. It gets me excited because now I want to conquer those and crush those. Man, I've gone through, man, terrible times mentally, like going through depressions and whatnot, and come up and out of them before. But since I've started running and really cut back on processed, like, sugary stuff, I've been lean pretty much my whole life. I mean, I've put on a little weight here and there, but there was times where I was, like, 8% body fat, 9% body fat, and I was pre-diabetic. I mean, I was, like, one notch away on the A1C, I don't know if people know what that is, blood work. So, you would never have known, but my mind was just nowhere. And since I've really cut back on all those things, running has been a priority, and preparing, I've really shifted things around. I have never felt so good mentally. My mind is so soft. I feel like I could bend metal bars with my mind. I don't sound ridiculous, but that's, like, when you're saying that, like, I really get what that means. I'm 42 now. It's taken me this long to figure this out? I've learned about health and nutrition more or less my whole life, but I'm just now discovering it. And I think that is available to everybody, and they haven't experienced it yet. You know, the cold funds that we all did today with Access Recovery, you know, people try that, doing those kinds of things. It does clear the mind. You start thinking on another level, and I think it's people who get in that realm are people who start businesses, people who go to the top of the leaderboard, and if they're in sales or whatever area of life they're in, it's that clear, that clarity of mind and the body directly linked to it. You know, it's amazing. You know, it's ridiculous to say, oh, hey, you do good things to your body and your mind, and you're going to feel great. That's a pretty simple form of it. It's so difficult, you know, just saying that. I don't think it's not been talked about a lot recently. It's more about looks and all this stuff, so this is like a new wave. I'm just starting to hear that more, the mind and body, and you're saying that. And the beautiful thing about it is that when your why and your vision and what you're doing, Kyle, or your family and your vision and what you're doing for your customers and your community is aligned with how you're living your life and you're taking action. You're an example of it. You're an example, and you are an example, and I will support that through and through all day long. Excited about access recovery. We're excited to support any which way we can. Is there going to be a ribbon cutting? What's the plan? Yeah, so right now, if anybody has ever done new construction build-out, you can have an idea of what that's going to look like and what that timeline is, but it's not going to work out, you know, because we broke ground. Again, we started this thing in January as far as filing the LLC. We got our lease signed in August. Where's your location? So we're right off 45 and Crichton Road in front of Grand Central, the development, the community back there at Grand Central. There's another complex right there. It's got some restaurants, but some really cool factors is it has F45 gym is there. Oh, nice. And there's also a guy that has a personal training studio on the third floor of our suite. So we're right there at 45 and Crichton Road, and we started build-out in August, and we are right now, I could say, less than 30 days out. We're shooting for November 14th, that's Saturday. That's the first time I've said it out loud because it's not always said and done. They're like, they're long. Yeah, but we're going to make it an event, right? It's not going to be, yes, we're going to do the ribbon cutting. We want to introduce what AXIS is for our community, but we're going to collaborate with some of the local gyms. We're going to put on maybe a 3K run that morning, go out, come back, hit your plan just like we kind of did this morning. I'm going to say it out loud. I'm going to be there, and I don't know what my 3K personal best is. I'm going to set it, and I'm going to break it. There we go. I like it. I don't know what it is. It might be an hour, which would be horrendous. No, I'm going to push it hard, man. I'm going to try and sprint that thing and see what kind of time I can get and make that my time. I've got my marathon in February of next year, so that's going to help my speed work. That's giving me a deadline, too. With AXIS Recovery, that's great goals, and that's exactly what we're after. But when we help our clients find their AXIS is what we're about, right? Finding your AXIS may be, hey, I want to beat my 3K time. I want to crush it. That's going to be my baseline. But it also may be for an individual that, hey, I'm listening to this podcast. I'm going to start walking today. They're finding their AXIS. They're doing something different, and we're there to help support them on their journey and to help reach their goals. Yes, there will be people that are running. There will be mothers there with their kids pushing their stroller for their 3Ks. We'll have a group activity as far as a boot camp if we get some physical endurance in. We're striving to really make this your point as a piece of the puzzle, right? We're all going through this journey. We have different pieces moving. We're going to fit right in with you. We're going to help support you. We're going to help bring our community camaraderie. We're going to support you in their efforts. We want to know, hey, Sean's got an ultra coming up. Hey, guys, Sean's got an ultra coming up. Wish him luck. He's been in here grinding away. That's the type of environment we want. I just finished my first mile like three months ago. Wow. I wish you guys were already open because I could not be doing what I'm doing now. I had to go through a lot of pain and earned the steps and everything. Just thinking about it now, I was like, man, after that first mile, I was puffed out. Then I ran another mile like a week later and was enjoying it. Having that recovery could have just been this whole thing. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, I contribute. Yeah. Recovery, I've always been a bulldozer my whole life. I've always been like put in the hard work, put in the work behind the scenes, show up, work as hard as you can, and then just let, you know, you can put anything in your body that you want, pizza, burger, and then you just sleep it off and the next day you'll be in peak shape. Well, that was a lie, right? Yeah. Recovery is everything. That's everything from sleep to well-being, mindset, and whether that's the cold flood, the sauna, whatever it may be. What I love about what you're doing, Kyle, is everything that you're doing and saying is aligning with your purpose and why, which is a beautiful thing because that's the guys, that's the people we want to follow. Yeah, absolutely. And maybe we do, well, not maybe, for sure, maybe at six months after you've opened, you can come back with Chris, the two of you, and let us know how it's going and, you know, all the other struggles and progress and all the excitement and all that stuff we'd love to find out. You know, keep us along with the journey. Yeah. Hey, you never know, there might be a Sean Meyer studio there at Axis, man. Don't kid me for a good time, though. Don't kid me for a good time. I'm here in franchise, man. Yeah, let's go. There we go. Yeah, it's amazing the people that have thought of that already, you know. They're approaching us, hey, when are you coming over to this area? When are you coming over to this area? But, you know, I'm never going to put the cart in front of the horse, right? We're going to get this one going. We're going to get this one going, right? And, you know, the things will follow that, you know. But it's been a team effort all the way around. You know, Axis Recovery wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Chris and I, but it also wouldn't be here if it wasn't for our spouses, right? You know, both of our wives are business partners in this with us, and for me personally, my standpoint, you know, my wife has been a huge factor for me carrying the load of our family with our kids, especially over these last, you know, three or four years. You know, we've built the family, and I've started to make this transition, but it would not have been impossible without her. You know, she carries a huge load at the house, and which helps me be able to do the things that I do, but, you know, I plan to repay her as soon as I can. She's got all the wives out there who can do that, and we would be nothing without them, you know. Say your wife's name. Kendra Meyers. Kendra Meyers, thank you. Yeah. Casey. Casey, thank you very much. Casey. Awesome. How can we support you? How can our community support you? Where can they follow you, get more information? Yeah. Yeah, so all of our social media is up at Access Recovery, Instagram, Facebook. We'll get into the YouTube realm very soon. But, yeah, again, follow us there. And our message has been follow us on our journey, right? This is a journey, you know, that we're coming together, figuring it out together. You know, we want insight. We want intel. We want, you know, what do you guys want to see? We want to be able to provide that, right? We're going to provide the space. We're going to provide the protocols and equipment for you. But, you know, our clients are going to build up what we've become. Yeah. And that's a huge part. So, yeah, at Access Recovery, follow us along. November 14th. November 14th. I'm throwing it out there. I want my T-shirt, man. I'm telling you. You look so cool. I know. It's the third time you've mentioned that now. Yeah. So. It must really want you. I really do. Chris and Mel are the merchandise managers. We're going to give them those titles. Yeah. And they were all locked up this morning when I left. But I thought about you, man. I've got it. I've got it for you. If I beat my PB on that day, I don't know what that looks like. But. Well, I want you to beat it with our shirt on. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Yeah. Maybe I can get a different color if I beat my PB. I've got two shirts. Yeah. I'm just making stuff up now. All right. Kyle Rogers, thanks so much for being on the podcast with us today, man. Appreciate your time and your effort. Yeah. Thanks for inviting me into your home, man. Lovely home. Had a great run this morning. You invited us in. Cooked us a stellar breakfast. Got us all carved up and ready for this. So. Hey. I appreciate it. A restaurant chef. Ah, yeah. Yeah. So. It's going to be one thing on the menu. Eggs. Yeah. More eggs. Yeah. Thank you all very much. It's been a pleasure. Absolutely, man.