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Sam and Sandy host a true crime podcast discussing Anna Delvey, a con artist who almost scammed New York's elite out of millions. Anna created a fake identity as a wealthy German heiress and successfully convinced people of her wealth and connections. She built a fake foundation, forged documents, and lived luxuriously in hotels without paying. Eventually, her scheme unraveled, leading to legal trouble. Despite her actions, some view her as a modern-day Robin Hood for not stealing from those in need. Welcome to Serials and Schemes. I'm Sam. And I'm Sandy. This is a true crime inconspiracy podcast. Our podcast is intended for mature audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Hi guys, welcome back to Serials and Schemes. If you're new here, hey, I'm Sandy. And I'm Sam. And today we're going to be talking about Anna Delvey, a rich German heiress. Or is she? The story has everything. High society, scams, fake identities, luxury hotels, private jets, and a girl who almost conned New York's elite into handing over millions. The life she's lived is more than I will ever be able to live. I'm just mad I didn't think of this first. She's smart. Like, there is some smarts there and she don't give two fucks. Like, literally no yes given. Seriously, the case is absolutely wild. Anna managed to convince some of the smartest, richest people in Manhattan. She did this. Exactly this. That she was a millionaire heiress just waiting for her trust fund to turn. Meanwhile, she was basically making all up as she went along. And that worked. For years. But eventually, obviously, like, the walls closed in. The lights caught up and she found herself facing a serious prison time. But today we're going to be diving into how she built the perfect scam and how it all came crashing down. So let's start at the beginning. Anna Samokhin was born in Russia on the 23rd of January in 1991. Her dad was a truck driver. Her mom ran a small convenience store. And honestly, their life was pretty normal. Working class, nothing fancy. And when she was 16, her family moved to Germany. And that's when Anna really started feeling like she didn't fit in. Historically speaking, I don't blame her. She hated how small and boring her town was. She barely spoke the language and spent most of her time obsessed with fashion magazines. Vogue, style blogs, live journal, anything glamorous and anything other than ordinary. And this is important because even as a teenager, Anna was already creating this fantasy version of herself. I want to be someone else. Someone bigger. Someone richer. Someone important. Oh, fame! Fails. And after she finished high school, Anna tried to chase that dream. She went to London, briefly enrolled at Central Saint Martins, which, by the way, is a huge name in the fashion world. But she dropped out almost immediately. Then she headed back to Germany. And not long after, she moved to Paris. That's when she started interning at Purple Magazine. Very artsy. Very cool. And it's in Paris where Anna Dalvey is born. She just makes up a new identity. New name. New origin story. Anna Dalvey. German heiress. Loaded with family money she couldn't touch yet. And honestly, no one even questioned it because she looked the part. She dressed in designer clothes. She had the attitude. The connections. And when she transferred to the Purple office in New York, that's when things really kicked off. New York. Another place down, has there? Seen there. Seen there. Done that. Got it tattooed. Love that for you. New York was literally a perfect playground for her. There's already a ton of real trust fund babies running around Manhattan. So Anna blended in perfectly. There she checked into the boutique hotel, 11 Howard, and started living like she was royalty. She was tipping the staff with $100 bills, hanging out with celebrities and artists, and booking tables at all the right restaurants. And even though she didn't have a working credit card on file at the hotel, she literally got away with it for months because of how she carried herself. Like when you're handing out $100 tips and name-dropping billionaires, no one's going to fucking question that. And that's exactly the thing. Anna understood how New York works. It's a city where appearances are everything. If you look rich and you act rich, people just believe you. She treated money like it was disposable, and that made people trust her even more. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, she was building this elaborate plan, the Anna Dalvey Foundation. It was supposed to be this ultra-exclusive, Soho-house-type private members' club focused on art, culture, restaurants, a rooftop bar, all housed in this massive historic building on Park Avenue South. She even had a board of advisors lined up, real estate connections, artists lined up to curate exhibits. On the surface, it all looked legit. Except for one tiny detail. She actually had, like, no actual money. Minor details. Minor. So, to get the foundation off the ground, Anna needed $22 million. So she opted to get a loan, and she forged bank documents, made up a fake financial advisor named Peter Hennig, even created burner email accounts. She literally Googled how to make fake, untraceable emails. Like, she wasn't even subtle about it. She came super close to City National Bank almost gave her a loan. And when they didn't, she got Fortress Investment Group interested. And they only backed out when they got suspicious and tried to set up a meeting with her Swiss bankers. Anna panicked and withdrew the application. But by that point, she'd already gotten $100,000 as an overdraft from the City National just to start the process. And she used that cash to keep up the facade just a little bit longer. But, of course, it couldn't last forever. By spring of 2017, Anna's money problems were piling up. She had racked up a massive bill at 11 Howard, over $30,000, and the hotel was getting seriously empty. Management finally locked her out of her room, put all her designer clothes and shopping bags in storage, and basically said, pay up or get out. So, what does Anna do? Naturally, she moves to another luxury hotel, the Mercer. And when that didn't work out, she bounces to the Beekman Hotel. She was basically hotel hopping across Manhattan, sending fake wire transfer receipts and convincing the front desk staff that she was just waiting for her money to clear. Meanwhile, she's still dining out, shopping at the Vita Boutique, and tipping everyone in sight like nothing's wrong. And honestly, the way she pulled it off, it's insane. She didn't just rely on fake documents. She used people, too. Like Rachel Deloche-Williams, who was a photo editor at Vanity Fair and one of Anna's new close friends. She didn't care who the fuck she was fucking over. The balls on this woman? Insane. Matt and I go, oh, wouldn't it be nice to be rich? I'm reading a book, and it's about millionaires, and I'm like, ah, I could live that life. I want to live in, I want to stay in the penthouse suite in Breckenridge and Colorado, like all this stuff. And then Matt literally goes, you're too nice to be rich. Like, to be rich, like new rich money, not old money, but new money, you have to fuck people over. And I was like, I can be that. And he's like, no. I was like, you're too nice, that's the problem. And he's like, OK. We went to the shop today, and you saw someone so excited about a board game. It was Lego. And then her pride declined. And I was like, babe, buy it for her. She was so happy, and now she's so sad. And he was like, OK. I was like, it was over $100. And he was like, that's fine. Do you want me to buy it? And I was like, yeah, I'll go, I'll chase her, because she just gets it, as you do. And I was like, I'll follow her, you buy it. He's like, yeah, babe, you're too nice. You're welcome. And on top of that, like, I also don't think, like, you hate lies. You hate lying. You hate lies. The amount of, like, effort it would take, the amount of, like, courage, I guess, to, like, back yourself like that in your lies, girl. I'm too transparent. Like, I am an open book all the time. 100%. There is no way that you could pull this off. And honestly, like, I'd like to think that I'm cutthroat enough. I don't think I could either. I'm too soft for this. It takes a very special arsehole. She made me an arsehole. That's kind of iconic. As far as I'm concerned, she didn't steal from the poor. She didn't steal from the elite. She was, like, Robin Hood. What? She was a Russian Robin Hood. She just gave it to herself. Who was the poor? To be honest, there we go. The main poor person in her story. Not entertaining. And Adelvie is a really good person. I mean, no, she wasn't. But also probably needs a bit of paper that she's stealing from. Yeah, 100%. Like, all the things, at least she wasn't stealing from people who really needed the money. Yeah, like, they get paid a couple of tens of grand. So, Anna invites Rachel, her new bestie, along with her trainer, Casey Duke, and the videographer on this all-expenses-paid luxury trip to Morocco. They stay at La Mamonia? I don't know. It's in Marrakesh. It's a fancy hotel. They're talking $7,000 a night. Private villas with butlers, massages, rooftop pools, the whole thing. Honestly, I couldn't have been her friend because I don't like people like that. However, would have really loved the chance. Because also, I don't have any money. So, if I'd gone, there's no way I'm paying for that shit. Do you know what? I would have loved to have been one of the help that she favoured. Because there were some people that were like, when I say the help, I mean staff. That was really, really terrible. Yeah, South Africa. South Africa, sorry. I've been great to you guys. I don't know what to say about that. No, sorry. I would love to have been one of the staff members that she was tipping in $100 bills, but then there were reports of her favouring some in terms of becoming friendlier with them, and she would give them more money. And that is nice because you're not so close. You know, you can't be implicated for anything. I still would really like to go to Morocco. Yeah, that's valid. Yeah. That's valid. And it was on someone else's credit card, not mine. And that, honestly, this all-exempt trip sounds so dreamy. But, of course, Anna's cards will seriously stop working once they arrive. She claims her bank is having trouble with the international charges. Classic. So, who gets stuck footing the bill? Rachel. Poor Rachel. The new bestie. She ends up putting over $60,000 on her personal and work credit cards just to get them out of Morocco without being arrested. And Anna promised her that she'd pay her back immediately, said that the wire transfer was already on its way. However, days passed, and then weeks passed, and then months passed. Rachel only ever got back $5,000 out of, like, the $60,000-ish. She had to beg her employer to help her out, and even then it took forever to clear that debt. And Rachel wasn't the only one getting played. Anna bounced around more hotels back in New York, pulling the same scams. The Beekman Hotel kicked her out after she racked up an $11,500 bill. She even tried staying at the W Hotel downtown, but got caught after just two days when she couldn't pay the $500 bill. By July 2017, Anna was basically homeless, couch-surfing and carrying her luggage around the city. And around this time, the Manhattan District Attorney's Office had started investigating her for serious financial crimes. Bank fraud, grand larceny, and theft of services. But Anna was not slowing down. Like I said, the balls on the floor. I just love that that didn't scare her. She's like, you think that's going to scare me? I can't afford shit? No, I'm just going to be so small. Girl, like, how do you think I'll be getting away with this all this time? Bye! So yeah, she obviously wasn't slowing down. She even managed to deposit bad checks worth $15,000 into her account at Signature Bank and then withdrew $8,200 in cash before anyone ever noticed. At this point, the DA had had enough. They coordinated a sting operation. And this is wild. Because they used Rachel. Good old Rachel. Poor Rachel. She's actually the one that I'm like, okay, you know what? Like, she shouldn't want to have stolen from her. Because there were other people, obviously, in Anna Dalby's life. Like, she was getting with some really rich people at one point. And she was, like, getting them to sign over checks for her ideas and her partner's ideas. So, like, there were so many victims. Except this one really didn't fucking deserve it. Yeah, because Rachel wasn't rich. Like, she had a good job. They had a credit card. And that was really it. So, they used Rachel to lure Anna to a lunch meeting in LA. Because Anna had checked herself into a luxury rehab center in Malibu. When Anna left the facility for the lunch, LAPD was waiting outside. Because they can't go in while she's in there. Because it's like a residence, I think. So, she was arrested on the spot and extradited back to New York. And at that point, Anna was offered a plea deal. Which she denied. She really wanted to go to trial. She wanted to be heard. And not just heard, but she clearly wanted to be seen. She turned the courtroom into another performance. This is the funniest thing. Because she's like, no, let me tell my story. Because you guys don't understand. Bitch, you fucking lied to everyone. What do you want people to see? Like, she believed what she was saying. That's the issue here. Like, she was so, her head was so fucked up. That she's like, no, I'm being fucked over. I can't believe that you guys would do this to an heiress. They're like, bitch, you're not one. What are you talking about? Just let me talk and I'll tell you. I feel like she's giving like the real embodiment of like, de lulu is the salulu. Yeah, exactly. Which is so good. So, turning the courtroom into a performance. She, first of all, refused to wear prison-issued clothes to court. She was like, absolutely not. She's like, these overalls get fucked. So, she hired a celebrity stylist to dress her for her trial appearance. That's not money. How did she do this? It was not about the money. It's about, you'll be seen. Like, people are going to see this. Because I am Anna Delvey. Like, fuck. We're talking designer outfits. Victoria Beckham trousers, Saint Laurent blouses, Michael Kors shift dress. She would literally delay court proceedings because she wasn't happy with her outfit. I'm sorry, but I stand this. She's a fucking icon. She literally delayed court proceedings because of her clothing. They let her do it. Like, come on. I'm sorry. Queen behavior. So, yeah, there were days where she would refuse, like, to come out until she felt her look was, in air quotes here, trial-ready. Like, absolute diva behavior. And the media fucking loved it. They ate that shit right up. They were also, like, Instagram accounts created just to track her courtroom fashion. It's just so iconic. It's so funny. So, underneath all the drama, the charges were serious. Anna was facing multiple counts of grand larceny, attempted grand larceny, and theft of services. Basically, scamming hotels, banks, friends, and luxury businesses all over New York. The prosecution painted her as a con artist with no regard for anyone but herself. I mean, they weren't painting it. That's what she was. While her defense lawyer tried to frame her as this ambitious young woman who just wanted to make it in New York, and who had every intention of paying people back eventually. Which, I mean, that's wild. Because, sure, Anna talked about the Anadolu Foundation. Like, it was her life's work. But she was literally fabricating bank documents, lying to everyone around her, and living off credit she didn't have. Also, she was, like, best mates, by the way, with the man who created Fyre Festival. And that tells you everything you need to know. Yeah. She stayed on his couch for a while. Yeah. She was staying at his place for a while, and I think they partied together and stuff like that. Yeah, not exactly a solid business model. Anyway, after a month-long trial, the jury found Anna guilty of eight charges. I can't believe it was only eight. Including grand larceny in the second degree, theft of services, and attempted grand larceny. She was found not guilty of one of the biggest charges, though, trying to scam Citi National Bank out of $22 million. And interestingly, she was also not guilty of stealing the $62,000 from Rachel in Morocco. I mean, I guess I can see why with that one. Because, yes, she did. But also, Rachel was there, and so was... And Rachel consented with her card. Yes. She didn't steal the credit card and use it. Rachel did it knowingly. And to get them out of being arrested. So I can see how that would be a little bit of a loophole for defense. Yes. Definitely a gray area there. I mean, even with that, it still wasn't a small win. In May 2019, Anna was sentenced to four to 12 years in prison. She was also fined $24,000. I mean, $24,000 fine is really not that bad. But she was also ordered to pay around $200,000 in restitution. Where did she get that from? She's in prison. She can't work. But here's the kicker. Here we go. Here we go. The money she made from selling her story to Netflix, that was worth $320,000. Most of that went straight to her. And she, like, made money. Yes! This is why this is kind of iconic. Because, yes, sure, she's out of pocket now. $200K. She's going to pay $24,000. But she also made $320,000. And so, yes, most of that went towards paying fines and restitution. But you saw this was, like, around $100K. So, I mean, technically, she paid people back. Not in the way she planned. But she paid them back. Paid them back. I mean, what is everyone complaining about? It all came to right, eventually. So she served her time at Albion Correctional Facility and was actually released on parole in February of 2021 after serving about two years. But, of course, Anna being Anna, the story does not end there. After her release in 2021, Anna checked herself into the Nomad Hotel in Manhattan. How is she still allowed to be in America? Why are they not locked? Fuck off! Pack your shit. We're walking you to the airport. I mean, she paid her restitution. She's got great public image. Like, what are you supposed to do? This is Manhattan, guys. It's a dog-eat-dog world. It's an Anna-eat-dog world. What are you, fish-eating fish? Cat-eating cat? I mean, I don't know what to tell you. This is Manhattan, guys. Think of Swift. It's really Manhattan that this is. What the fuck? So she booked a fancy room and immediately started working on rebranding herself. Honestly, again, fair. You know, Queen behavior. She hired a German camera crew to follow her around in the documentary she was planning. Like, the girl wasted zero time. She was like, whilst my name is on everyone's lips, let's make it fucking count. Yep. But she didn't get to enjoy freedom for long. Just... Oh, there it is. Just six weeks after getting out, Anna was picked up by ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, because she had overstayed her visa. Not fair! I was in prison! How was I supposed to get out of here? It's so good. I also love that she was, like, taken by ICE on the premise that her visa was out. Not because she's fucking people. She was supposed to be deported back to Germany, but Anna being Anna, she fought it. She filed appeal after appeal, dragging the process out for months. And while she was stuck in ICE custody, she was still working in the media. Girl, eight. She was giving interviews, being profiled by magazines, even pitching projects. She literally described her time in ICE detention as a sociological experiment. Of course she did. But after about 19 months locked up, Anna finally posted a $10,000 bail bond in October 2022. She was released, but put under house arrest in Manhattan, in a tiny 470-square-foot apartment in the East Village. I'm sorry, I don't care how small it is, you're in the best city in the entire world. In New York City, it's... Eight-bag girl! East Village is not Harlem, because they could have chucked her in there. Just saying. And she had to wear an ankle monitor 24-7. And get this, even while she was stuck inside, Anna found a way to stay relevant. Of course. She hosted an art show called Free Anna Dalby, featuring drawings she made while she was in ICE custody. So she was not only creative in her scans, but she was also creative in her artwork. There were pieces that were called Anna on Ice. Another called 10 Bitcoin. All selling for like $10,000 each. Some critics called it Doodles, others said it was actually a brilliant marketing move. And it is. She was in the meat. Her name, everyone knew who she was after that Netflix documentary. This is Kong Lever. And if you watch the documentary, the things that people said about her were like, no, there's no way she did this. Look at her. Of course she's rich. This is a German era. An era, sorry. She's like, have you ever seen, hey, you guys fax check. Because I'm pretty sure she's got money. They're like, yes, you know, she's plain looking, but look how she dresses. Like, she's definitely one of us. She's old money. Like, you know, they were so certain. And it didn't stop there. Anna's house arrest basically became a social event. She threw, she wasn't leaving. She threw rooftop parties during New York Fashion Week. She collaborated with fashion publicists. She even modeled during Fashion Week in 2024 for brands like Shell. Yeah. Shell New York and Elena Velez with her ankle monitor on. Have you watched Gossip Girl? XOXO. Correct. This is giving when Lily Bass was under house arrest and threw that huge fucking party at her apartment. She was like, well, I can't leave, right? I'm not breaking any rules. You said I can't leave. You can't sit there. They shunned her. They shunned her essentially. I think it was Nate's mom who shunned her from their little society thing and said, we're not hosting at your house anymore because you're blah, blah, blah. She paid people to have the party moved to a fucking house and she's like, well, it's here now, darling. Fucking slave. And really, only Anna could turn house arrest into like a red carpet moment. Honestly. And then by mid-2024, she finally got her social media privileges back too and started posting again. And she's reportedly working on a new docuseries about her life after prison along with a book and even her own podcast. Please God, one day, can we also have Anna Dalby on this podcast? That would be awesome. Yeah, head us up, Anna. Hashtag free Anna Dalby. Hashtag, Dalby on ice. So good. So good. I'll do a little doodle for you. It won't be great, but I can name it after you. She's like, the one that says Seed Bitcoin is so good. I'm sorry. Have you seen any of that? I've like Googled it. Yeah. It's doodled. But it's iconic. And just when you think that she could not top herself, in 2024, she may not have been on ice, but she was on the dance floor. She appeared on Dancing with the Stars. I'm not even kidding. She competed with her ankle monitor on, but she was one of the first celebrities that was eliminated. Honestly, just hands down iconic. There is not a lot else to use to describe her. Okay. Yeah, look, scandalous, scammy, a liar, sure, iconic nonetheless. Because I'm sorry, what scam artist do you know? That's a woman. I actually don't know any. Sorry, that you heard of that has become a fucking celebrity afterwards. Dancing with the Stars. Dancing with the Stars. She has a Netflix documentary. I'm sorry, but like, that's marketing, baby. Because she literally went from being a con to a fucking celebrity. Yeah. She, she did what she set out to do. Yeah. Okay. It took some twists and turns that she, I don't think she was expecting, but she made it in the end. And she's, she's, she's still there. Yep. Okay. Sorry. Like, sorry about this podcast, Matt, because I am yelling the fuck into it. Yeah, we're yelling a lot. But I'm passionate. It's so good. It's just so, like, I guess it's also, it's like, my brain is like, how? How did she get away with this? But also, Manhattan, you guys need to sort yourselves out. When she does her podcast, do you reckon she'll give us tips and tricks on how to do this? Because maybe I just need some help to be an honest person. Maybe we're doing this wrong. Maybe we're being too honest and too nice. And I can only lie, but only hurt bad people. Yeah. Because I would be okay with that. I could do that. I wouldn't be mad. I agree. So, where does that leave Anna now? Well, technically, she's still under supervised release and has some travel restrictions. But she's turned her infamy into a brand. Travel restrictions. Not even a fucking flight risk. They're literally like, hey girl, we can't be letting you go out to Germany and back. You've got to stay here. Yeah. Dude. Yeah, it's actually really wild when you take a look back at how all of this started. A bored teenager in Germany obsessed with Vogue and wanting a bigger life. She wasn't born into wealth, but she managed to take it long enough to almost make it real. So, because I remember from the Netflix series, Inventing Anna and then Personal Enhancement. Very good watch, by the way. Highly recommend. Yeah, highly recommend that. So, they go and interview her parents, who literally live not fancy. I wouldn't say that they're on the bottom of their ass. No, they are like, no, in no way are they what she claims them to be. So, you know, anyone going, maybe she was just being honest about who she was, she was not. She wasn't. I can assure you. And that's the thing about Anna Dalby, she's like, she's self-made. Nothing about her is real. Yes. But what is authentic is that she knew what the fuck she was doing. And she believed in the persona that she was, you know, putting out there, projecting. Yeah. It really does make you think about classism and image culture. Like how in places like New York, if you looked apart, if you throw money around, people won't question it. They'll just assume you belong. Look, if someone could just fund me a little bit of money to throw around, that would be great. Because I could make it in New York. I can make it in New York too, I feel like. I love New York like so much, but I don't have the money to do it in New York. And like, the money would certainly make me act a different way. Yeah. Someone do it to me. Yes. I would be kind with it. I would. We would help people. Yeah. As long as I could help myself more. Let me eat in the Michelin star restaurants and stay in penthouse suites with like overlooking Central Park. And I could do bad things. What if though, what if Annabelle went into it though, going like, yeah, I just want a better life for other people, right? Hence the intentions around the Annabelle Foundation. But then again, the foundation was mostly about socializing exclusivity. So I actually don't really know how long to do it for. Yeah. I don't think that's what I'm thinking. No. But yeah, she fucking played that game girl. I mean, until she did it. But she played the hell out of that game. And that's the story of the ultimate New York scam. And honestly, I know that we say almost. But she kind of did. She did. She's still there. She ate. She left some crumbs, but she ate. She's still living it up. She's still like, that is my favorite place in the entire world. Yeah. And she's allowed to live there after scamming the shit out of these people. She scammed a bank. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, we can't. But also like, and again, they had a dream. She put her mind into focus. She still achieved it. She made it upon the way that like she initially planned. Other people had dreams. Well, she's influenced those people's dreams. You know what? They're also around Germany. What? And look at her. She's trying to be like, I hate Germany. I'm Russian. I'm nothing like that, but I am going to make some money. And she's famous. Those are the two things that she wanted the most. And she won it. I just, I just, I can't. Like, you know how she got her money. You know, say you're like one of these people, you know, you're socialites, you're celebrities, you're like, not models, but like the people running them, you know, that sort of thing. You know how she is who she is because everyone knows how this girl became this girl. Yeah. And you're still going to offer her dancing with the stars or walk on this catwalk or, you know what, we're going to highlight the fact that you have an income on Earth. How cool is it that you have that? Let's add that into our, like, they gave her the time of day. This is the thing, like, I'm saying like Joe Blogs, like you, me, people that have read, you know, watched the Netflix show. People that are like, hey, she's iconic. That's cool. We'll give her some money. We'll buy a painting. It might be worth some money, whatever. But it's the rich people who are already there. She fucked over people like them and they're still like, you know what, iconic. Let her in. Let her into our circles. That's what I don't get. Like, it doesn't feel like people are holding her at arm's length. They're like, oh, no, let her do what she's got to do. That's what weirds me out about this whole thing. I personally am like, if I had the balls and I didn't stress every time I told a lie, I feel like I could do this. I would do this. I just don't have the moxie and the fucking, like, brainpower to think the way that she did to keep track of all of her lies and still committed it to the end. Like, that is some, that's some shit. I just not love that, but I'm going to say, I love that she would get caught out. Like, before prison, before all that sort of shit, she would get caught out. Say, like, a hotel would lock her room up and she's like, I can't believe you would treat me like this. And she held on to that. Yeah. She literally held on to that lie and was like, you know what? I would never come to this hotel again. I can't believe the way you've treated me. And then she would go to somewhere else and chuck them over. And she literally had an air of riches, to this day, has an air that she is super, from super old money. Yeah. And it's like, she just fucking like believed it or committed really hard or something because, like, I don't think I could, I could be on the spot. Yeah. Where they're like, you are my top thousand. I'd be like, no, I don't, how dare you? I'm a German heir. I have the money coming to you. Now, you know you call me a car. You get the bellboy. You get the bellboy to go and get my bag, please. Like, you know, it's still very much that. It's just so baldy. And I know it sounds like we're championing her. Sandy is. I'm still very concerned about this. I'm not necessarily championing her, but, like, the beads are done, the rest of you should stay. It's the audacity. It's the soundery audacity. Like, all of those words that mean the same thing. It's all of those. I just think it's so impressive. And can you imagine if she actually put her fucking focus into creating, like, a crypto business or, like, something that actually could make proper money legitimately. And she was like, nah, legitimate is so lousy. But also, throughout the entire series, the one thing that Anna Adelvie always says is, work. I don't work. That is so disturbing. Yes. Give me some of that. Literally. But, yeah, that's today's case. Let us know what you guys think. Was Anna just a hustler chasing the American dream, or was she a cold-blooded con artist? Or somewhere in between. Yeah. Actually, let us know what you think. Like, seriously, we really want to know. Yeah. And if you can comment on our Spotify battle or that sort of thing, and just let us know, because I know that this is not our normal pack, and we are not normally this joyous about any case that we do. So, like, I am amped, and I could go for a run around the block, and I don't even know how to run. 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