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In this podcast episode, Rachel Ibbotson and Ellie Holroyd discuss classroom management and behavior management. The host sets up the conversation and leaves them with a list of questions to discuss different scenarios and approaches. The conversation is interesting and brings up new perspectives on the topic. Welcome to the Wild West Educations. Okay, so today we've got a conversation between Rachel Ibbotson and Ellie Holroyd. We're going to be talking about all things classroom management. And for this conversation, I'm going to do a drop and run. And so what that means is we've put Ellie and Rachel in a room. I've set the recording up. I've left them with a list of questions that they might ask each other. And this is a 30-minute conversation which delves into different scenarios and approaches to behaviour management. And it's brought up a fascinating conversation, in fact. And it's just taken it in directions that I hadn't necessarily considered. So really interesting to listen to this for me. And I hope it's valuable to you, too. So here we go. Here is Ellie Holroyd and Rachel Ibbotson talking about behaviour management.