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The transcription is a conversation between two friends discussing their podcast episode and tasting a bourbon whiskey called Hardin's Creek Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey. They share details about the whiskey, its characteristics, and reviews. They also talk about their experience tasting it, noting its hot and savory flavors with hints of cinnamon and citrus, lack of sweetness, and high ethanol content. Despite finding it enjoyable, they agree it's not their top choice, giving it a 7.2 out of 10 rating. The conversation is casual and humorous, with the friends sharing personal anecdotes and observations about the whiskey's packaging. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Step right in, it's the funky display. Talking shit today, it's the vibe we portray. No filters, no rules, just lettin' it flow. It's rappin', folks, it's the shit show. Welcome to the shit show, buckle up tight. We droppin' raw food, keepin' it wet. Laughs, they fade off, that's how we play. Talking shit today, it's the vibe we portray. Welcome back, X. Welcome, Mumpy. We're rocking episode seven. Seven, man. I'm not gonna do it in Spanish this time. That's okay. We're just gonna go with seven. We're gonna call it 007. 007, yeah, I like that. 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I like the idea of that. Yeah, sure. What I will say is that just to get started today already has been a bit of a feat. So, what do you say we get into it? Um, so forth. Let's go. So what has been keeping you busy in this last two weeks since we last got together? Well, let's put it this way. Life has been like Wi-Fi. Some spots have it, some spots don't. I gotcha. You know, we all have our struggles in life. We all have our triumphs in life. And it's a roller coaster for sure. Sure. One balances the other some days. And some days you're like, what the fuck? Right. Well, let me relay to you a story at my expense that may help add some levity for you. Sure, go. So, you know, last week I was away at a conference. Mm-hmm. And I got to spend a lot of time around a lot of people in my industry. And in one of our breakout sessions. Oh, hang on a second. Oh, excuse me. Instant fuck you. So, in one of my breakout sessions that I was attending, somebody decided that they were going to sneeze. And not the appropriate when you're surrounded by 300 people sneeze, you know, into your hand, into your elbow. Do the vampire. Right? No, the back of my head got wet. And all the people around this motherfucker were like, oh, you're okay. It's like, oh, excuse me, excuse me. And all I could think of was I just got the Rona. That's all I could think of was just how disgusting I felt in the moment. And I had to wait until this thing was done. Then I could go wash my head and get back out to the conference. Oh, man. And related or unrelated, had a bit of a cold. I think it was more than just a cold. My family will tell you it was just an itty-bitty cold. But you know how they talk about the man cold? It was serious. I survived and we're back at it today. So, not everybody's as courteous as you, sir. And that sloppy fuck face definitely was not. So, that like would constitute a throat punch. Trust me, if I was not in a professional setting, that might have been something else. But it's what happened. At least this sharp stick in the eye. That, I don't know which would be more gratifying, to be honest with you. I think the throat punch. Throat punch, yeah. It's a little more cathartic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a little more into it. You just put more English into it. Take that. Yeah, and less aiming, too, because the eyes are kind of small. Throat's, you know. So, all right. Well, how about we move right off of that anecdote and talk about what's in our glass tonight? Hey, Dex, what's in our glass? I am glad that you asked. So, you recall that not that long ago, I went over to Kenny's for a bottle drop. Oh, yeah. And was able to get, amongst other things, their E.H. Taylor single barrel store pick that they do. Very nice. Bundled with one of the bottles that they just needed to get rid of. And what I picked up as well was not one of those bottles, but this is a Hardin's Creek Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey from Warehouse R. For anybody that's familiar with Hardin's Creek, this has got the mushroom on it. This is aged 11 years and... Is it a psilocybin infused? I hope not. Because I've had a quote-unquote coffee that's supposed to be mushroom coffee. We'll just say that I still have it because it's not, it's not terrible. It's not wonderful either. Yeah, I had some of that. Oh, okay. Well, I did get a really nice little tumbler glass from that. So I was not upset with that part, but... Yeah, it was not good. The liquid? Nah, it's all gritty and... I'll take the real deal. Yeah, there you go. So some information about the Hardin's Creek. This one is 11 year. It's a limited release. I got it at a much better price than what I've seen it for online. So I'm very happy for that. What are you seeing it for online? Well, so what I'm seeing for online is ranging between $250 and $350. That's pretty rich. And I got much better than that. Well, that's good. This is known for its earthy robust profile with notes of cinnamon, floral, and herbal notes. Maybe it does have some damn mushrooms in there. Hinesa tea. It was aged in a cool damp warehouse, which gives it the distinct characteristic. It's bottled at 110 and has an MSRP that generally runs around 150, but not a lot of people are having it at MSRP. That's a pretty rich MSRP. It is. The reviews are saying that it is rich, but not overly sweet. Okay. So special characteristics for this. It's non-chill filtered, which we've had before. It does have this damp warehouse, which lends to the label of it having the mushroom on there. And Big Red actually shared a review of a different Hardin's that was picked up that same day. Okay. His review, we'll see how this one compares. Strong nose with surprisingly vanilla, I think. Decent legs, but I expected better based on the color, which is a beautiful dark amber. Much less sweet than the nose would lead you to believe. Oak is present, but not overpowering. Kind of a short, almost savory finish. A decent pour, but I'm not fully sold on it on first impression. Seven out of ten. Okay. Mind you, he has a much broader palate for the scotches and the Irish whiskeys and all those different things. So it's just interesting when you get to talk to folks with different likes and tastes. Well, let's get into it. Shall we? We shall. Mmm. Not at a ring-toss. All over you. Did you catch the... I did. Like reverb. And there's your glass, sir. Righty-rooney. Gonna put that cork back on. And give it a little swirl and blend here, buddy. Swirly swirl. It's a Tuesday night swirl. Let's see what this thing do. I could say the legs aren't terrible on this. She's got legs. I got a question. Yes, sir. Some people call them legs, and I've heard people call them fingers. I've not heard the finger statement. I have, several times. I can understand why. The legs kind of lend to the staying power, so to speak, of the thing, where fingers are kind of the rivules that are left behind as the liquid's coming off the glass. But it doesn't look too oily. It looks like it comes off the glass pretty quickly. So I can understand that. Let's go to the nose on this bad boy. What are you getting? Hot. A little hot on the nose. When you really get in there, it is kind of pungent to the nose. But the deeper I get into it, I get kind of a dark fruit, almost citrusy. No vanilla for me. I'm definitely getting the citrus. I'm getting a bit of the floral. Yeah, I was just about to say. I would agree. I'm not really picking up vanilla. Right. And no shrooms. That kind of dank, musty smell. Well, I am getting an earthy sort of note to this. So what's your take on that first taste? It's probably going to be hot. So it's got a good coat. The spice hits right away. But it very quickly breaks into the other flavors. I think that cinnamon hits pretty much right away. Got that cinnamon. Yeah, this is a lot more savory than a lot of the whiskeys that we've had. It's not bad. I guess what I'm waiting for is for it to smooth out. I'm going to set it for a minute. Yeah. See if letting it breathe a little bit mellows it out. Or lets it blossom, I guess. Sure. I mean, it's certainly not a bad pour. Oh, I definitely wouldn't turn this down. I can't think of anything you wouldn't turn down aside from scotch. Uh, yeah. It's definitely lacking in the sweetness that a whiskey normally has. It is not super sweet. No, and I'm not actually getting any oak out of it either. That's very interesting. For being an 11 year, you would expect there to be some sort of oak that would come out of it. A lot of ethanol in this one. Yeah, which is surprising because, and I'm going to say it this way, it's only 110 proof. Drinks much hotter. More like a 120. Well, I mean, I don't want to knock hardens. It's not a bad pour. I would say it's probably in my top 30 list. I don't know that I would run in after this or that I would really seek hunting it. I give it a 7.2 out of 10. Yeah, I think I'm with you on that. I will say though, it's got a very classic bottle. Indeed. The label is very pretty. Has a lot of fun details on it, including a couple different mushrooms, if you like that sort of thing. And I happen to know that your daughter loves mushrooms. Yeah, she wants to be a mycologist. And she will be. Very clean design in the bottle. So, you know, some companies, they don't really put a whole lot of thought into the bottle. But you see how it's fluted on the top. Indeed. So, I like the bottle. I might keep this one for another Infinity bottle. So, I'd say of all the pours that we've had on this show, this one's okay. It's all right. It's all right. Not to be anticlimactic, but I think that one might be more of the mixing variety than the neat variety, and maybe it will open up better with some water. So, before this evening is done, we should go ahead and open it up with some water. I'm going to try that. I'm going to put a quick splash in there. Now, the finish is short. So, even though the ethanol doesn't really seem to go away, and it didn't smooth out neat. Although, I did not bring my grail. Neither did I. We're going to have to give this a fair amount of shake in the grail, then. That's much better with water. So, perhaps this is one that on the rocks will be a lot, lot better. Oh, yeah. Oh, we're going back in. Boy, all over you. It was a little bit smaller. All right. Got to keep something in the glass as we're going through. It's not a bad whiskey. It's not a bad whiskey. You know, like you said, I'm fairly certain I would definitely not run into a store looking for this exclusively. Sure. I can tell you I would probably pick that over a few others, but it would not be the first. And if you pulled that out and said, want to pour them, fire it up, Chuck. Yeah. I mean, it's not the most expensive. Obviously, things get a lot better the more expensive they get. So, maybe that's a good point for us to move into our second segment here. Thought we should have a friendly discussion. Okay. A banter session, a debate, an argument, a conversation amongst educated or basic bitch friends. You beat me to that one. I was going to say, what about basic bitches that we supposedly are? So, I thought that we can take on a couple of the different topics that are out there. But you had mentioned this, and this is a good segue. Is expensive bourbon better? Now, this is almost a little unfair in the beginning because we've talked about some of our gems that are in the $20 to $40 range. And there are quite a few. But I have to go on record of saying for this conversation, money buys you flavor. Okay. Tell me, why is that wrong? Well, I think it's pretty simple that, let's just say that there are quite a few top shelf bourbons. We'll say from the $20 range to, we'll cap it out at $100. Okay. That you can find exceptional flavor and quality that would compare to, you know, those, I don't know, $250, $300, $500 bottles and up. Okay. That, you know, just don't get either, don't get their day in the sun with the bourbon world because they're A, sleepers and people don't know about them. Sure. Or B, people just don't know about them. Or C, they're too fucking bougie. Oh, that's a $70, oh, that's just not, oh, no, we can't do that. So. Well, but isn't it true that when you go into the store and you see 75 of something, you're like, I don't know if it's worth it. And when you look on top, that top shelf, and let's just say, I'll pick on Kenny's as one of our favorite stops to go to, and they don't put a $50 bottle in their spirit station. No. They put a $400 bottle or higher in their spirit station. True. And every one of those I've had, except maybe one, I was like, this is damn good and worth it. So I'm going to have to say that while there are a lot of pretty good mundane whiskeys and bourbons and ryes that will hit you for up to $100, if we had the money to drop on $800 bottles and think about them in the same way that we think about $50 bottles, I'm pretty sure our shelves would be populated with things a little bit higher than the MSRP. Maybe. Yeah. And I guess it's, how big is the wallet? Well, if the wallet's not the consideration, let's just pretend for a moment, then it then becomes a matter of rarity. And I think that for the collectors, when they're looking for something that is a showpiece, they're not looking to drink that anyway. Okay. So whether you're talking about a very old Macallan, which I know that there's an 80-year out there, and I don't even want to look at the MSRP on that. I know that there are the Pappy 23s, which I think run at like $2,000, just bare minimum that you find them for. Or the King of Kentucky's 23s for $9,000. So it's easy to drop 10 grand on a bottle for something if you can afford it. Does that make it better? I'm going to say absolutely that juice is better than the $30 bottle that you can get. You are just so fucking out of your mind. I don't think so. I think that if we could afford it, if we could get to it, we would not even go on the bottom shelf except to remember what it was like to be there. I don't know, man. You might be right, but we're not in that tax bracket to, well at least I'm not. Neither am I, don't worry. What are you trying to imply over here, Steve? I don't know. Hey, that's your business. I'm a $21 benchmark guy, which is a great pour. It really is. Yes, yes it is. And by the way, I talked to someone else who has had those $8,000 bottles and he absolutely agreed with me. He said you need to try the rest of their line. He said if you like the foolproof, which we do, he said you'll like the others. So I said okay, next time I'm around and I see one, I'm going to grab one. You can't go wrong with a $20, $22 bottle of whiskey. If it's bad, it's a mixture. Correct. Except for Evan Williams. I'm sorry for the Evan Williams fans out there. I'm sorry, guys. I'm just not there. You might as well just go get yourself a $3 bottle of turpentine. You know what I mean? Each their own. Let's throw the budget out again and say if you could choose your peerless small batch at $65 or that King of Kentucky and both are equally affordable to you, which one are you choosing? You know, I had that 15-year King of Kentucky and that was a $100 pour. It was fucking amazing. And I would agree that it's a rare, very expensive bottle and it was very, very worth it. Delicious. And my wallet was super glued inside my pocket. I couldn't get it out. Folks, I think we have a decisive victory here for money buys you flavor. It can. It can. We can go back and forth with this because, again, you can get lots of it. Listen, man, that old Forrester barrel pick that we had last week or two weeks ago, rather? Yes. That was damn delicious. That was absolutely delicious. Absolutely is. And it keeps calling me and I keep denying it. It's like I keep pushing it to voicemail. It keeps calling. Sure. And I'm trying to make sure I save it for both of us because you were kind enough to endow me with that bottle. For sure. Well, and do know that not that this is any motivation to try to make that bottle go away faster, but they consistently have those blue labels out. They're all different. This one's special. They are all different. And I can say this one is ours. Yes. So, well, I think that that was a lively debate. Oh, yeah. I think that we both can agree that good bourbon is good bourbon. Yep. We can agree that we're money, not an object. We might have different bottles on our shelf. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We as plebs right now have to troll and go. You call us plebs? Yes. We're plebs. Yes. All my plebs out there. That's right. We go where we can and we get what we can. That's true. So because I love you, brother, I wanted to kind of tee up the conversation of why is it that we tend to find that especially men have a hard time saying to one another, I love you, man. And it's completely in a heterosexual way. As a matter of fact, it's in a non-sexual way. Absolutely. I think you've described it to me from the Philly perspective. So you want to enlighten everybody what your take is on that? Let's go back in the history of the word love. It's derived from Latin. And there's three kinds of love. There's philos, eros, and agape. What about the love that a pimp has for... Oh, that's a different movie. Sorry. That's a different one for sure. Sorry. So to dig into that, I'll start backwards. Agape is basically like the love you have of God. It's not even remotely close to any of the ones I'm about to mention. But the next one is eros. Eros is erotic love. And that is the love between a man and a woman or two... Two consenting adults. Yes. Yes. Two in a relationship. And then last but not least is philos, or brotherly love. Hence, that's where Philly got their name, City of Brotherly Love. Phila. Delphia. So, me personally, I'm okay saying the word I love you to a good friend. That's many words, by the way. Yeah, it is. Two words, three words, you know, whatever it takes. But that's okay because, you know, brotherly love is deep. It's a friendship. It's a partnership in a way not like you would have with your wife or your girlfriend or your partner. But we're, in a way, we're partners in a different way. Of course. And I think that's something that if you can find, just like erotic love with a man and a woman or a partner, whatever. It's important. It's a bond. Friendship is a bond. You know, you find a good friendship, it can be a lifetime. Oh, for sure. A lifetime. Well, and the way I've approached this in the past, because it took me a while to come to the idea that saying I love you to somebody who's not family and that you're not in a relationship with was perfectly okay. And it's not because I was against the idea. It's because as I grew up, we said a lot of things then that we don't say now. We would rouse each other in ways then that we don't now. Especially if you were talking about someone who was being effeminate or, and they're a male, right? There was certainly the way that boys looked at boys and you thought men should be, and there was this whole concept. And it didn't really revolve around love. It revolved, if love was involved, it revolved maybe on a father loving their children or loving his wife. It was not how friends would love each other. That was a different kind of bond and it wasn't termed, to me anyway, in the ideas around love. I don't have any brothers or sisters, but I have plenty of cousins that I grew up with. And I think often when you're young and around family, your cousins are your first friends. And I fought with my cousins all the time. Now, we loved each other as family, but I also think that the family that you grow up with, they feel like they're afforded certain rights to you that your friends, that you eventually call your family, don't automatically assume. And so, evolving from that point where family, of course you love your family. Your family, you know, how does the saying go? Blood is thicker than water? But that's not the entire thing. There's more to that saying than that. The saying goes that blood is thicker than water, and they generally are referring to family. The actual original version of that is the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. Which, in fact, means your friendships, the relationships that you foster with others, are stronger than any familial relationship that you have. If that's how you've gone. You know, I've heard that saying before, and I completely forgot about it until you just borrowed it up again. Oh my God, I think 30 years ago, more. Well, and for me, that's a big part of my identity, because while I've got family that I care deeply about, I have stronger relationships with many people that I've called friend, brother. Again, I have no brothers or sisters. But I have stronger relationships with those individuals that I absolutely love. Yeah. And so I found that explaining that love to my children has been very interesting. Because even in today's day and age, in their minds, that kind of love is family. It's mom and dad. It's sisters, because they're both sisters. And I explained to them, I said, the reason why I say I love you to these people is because I genuinely do. And I also feel like, as men, it's important that we have the opportunity to express that kind of fondness for the relationships that we have with other men. Because one of the things that I have learned over time is that as you get older and maybe more dedicated to your family, more dedicated to your job, more dedicated to other things, you often will sacrifice yourself. And the first form of that sacrifice is the relationships that you have, often with your other male friends. So I do have one stepbrother. I just, I don't call him my stepbrother. I call him my brother because he's been my stepbrother since I was four. So he's your brother. Yeah, it's been a half century. He's my brother. And it's funny because we didn't have a really good relationship until probably 20 years ago, maybe 25 max. And in the last, I'd say, 10 to 15 years, we both tell each other, we love you when we're done talking. So I want to kind of define a little bit more about that agape love that we had mentioned. Yes. Really, as you know, that comes from Latin or Greek and it really refers to the highest, most selfless form of love. Okay. So it's like unconditional love, love that's given freely without expecting anything in return. Or it could be self-sacrificing love. You know, it's focused on basically the well-being of others even at one's own expense or even universal love, extending to all people, not just friends or family. Sure. So... Unconditional compassion. Well, I have that for a lot of things. I do. Especially bourbon. Especially bourbon. But yes, the love that persists regardless of flaws, conflict, or circumstance. I think the world needs more of that right about now. What the world needs now. All right, enough of that shit. Enough of that shit. So with that, I'll just end this segment with I love you, man. I love you too, bub. And it is something that I send out to a handful, not many, but a handful, especially of the men in my life that help guide me, help ground me, help challenge me, and help affirm me. And I think all of those things are important as we go through. And we should explore this more because I think there are a lot of things that we sacrifice that lend to our mental health and happiness Oh, sure. that are worth a discussion. And kind of like we talk about our bourbon aging, some of those things that we don't necessarily sacrifice but deteriorate over time is ourselves as we get older. We're biological machines, man. We break down. And there's not a lot of repair that can be done. I'm reminded of something that the comedian Louis C.K. had said and it was in one of his bits. Now, mind you, he's a fallen comedian, has a little bit of problems keeping his tally whacker from whacking in front of others. For some reason, power makes some people go really crazy and he did. Although he's making a bit of a comeback and he's leaning far into what he did and his transgressions. Okay. So it'll be interesting to see what kind of comeback he has, if any. But one of the bits that he had said which makes perfect sense was the older you get, the less the doctors seem to want to repair you. When you're in your 20s, they're like, you're young, you're spry. You'll be able to come back from this. We can do this. We can nip that. We can tie that. We got you. When you get to your 40s, they stop. They're like, welcome to being old. You've hit the fourth floor. It's only up from here. That's right. I remember when I had to go get my knee surgery which I know you are a veteran of knee surgeries. So I had torn my meniscus at some point building the dance studio. Go figure. Blood, sweat and tears. Blood, sweat, tears and surgeries. That's right. I had gone through and after some physical therapy and then eventually did the knee surgery because the physical therapy just didn't fix it. I had talked to the doctor and he said after the MRI he's like, you've got arthritis right here. This is the first time a doctor has mentioned arthritis and knee in the same sentence. And he very quickly and you know this doctor. I know. And he very quickly was like, you're not in your 20s anymore. You're older. Just deal with it. As if I was going to complain to him that he said the word arthritis. I wasn't about to complain. I was in utter shock. Hey, you said arthritis, asshole. Yeah. I'm sitting here like deer to headlights that you just said this. And then you're trying to ease past it really quickly. Like whatever. But the aging process, man, it's definitely interesting. I won't trade the wisdom for anything but my goodness I will trade this body for a lot of things. What's the old thing? Mind strong, body weak. Mind strong, body weak. Yeah. You think you're 20 and you're nugget but the machine is like, yeah, no. You're in your late 40s, 50s and guess what? Tomorrow is going to be worse. Every time I decide I'm going to try to squat instead of kneel down, guess what? I'm reminded. I'm actually envious that you can do that. Right? I can't. Well, it's not working as well as it has. So, yeah, that's for sure. So, what for you since you're a bit elder than I am, what for you have been your hallmarks of the aging process for you? Well, I would start with wisdom. That, you know, we just talked about that but the wisdom part, you know, I feel like my father, you know, when he used to say, you know, you think you know everything and I didn't. Oh, Lord, you. It doesn't sound as good the third time as it did the first time. No, it's getting worn out, man. You keep sticking it in and pulling it out and, you know. Something's going to get worn out. Indeed. So, I look back now in my 50s looking down as my father would look at me when I was a young man and say those same things. You think you know everything. Listen to what I'm telling you and he was right. He was right about everything. Sure. And that's life skills that are not just, you don't just get them you learn them. And boy, have I learned them. And, you know, that's and boy, have I learned them. I agree. I think that not only are these life skills something that we've learned over time and I've mentioned this in other episodes but one of the things I embrace in my job and I try to embrace in my day-to-day is failing forward knowing that you're going to make mistakes knowing that you're going to fail and every failure every mistake is an opportunity to learn something. Well, you're not going to succeed if you don't fail. Well, and the way my boss frames it is if you're not failing you're probably not trying very hard. Well, there's another saying we say if you don't make mistakes you're not working. There you go. So, I think that the wisdom you can prevent yourself from having the same mistakes that they've had. Yeah, I can see that. My children don't quite understand that and I think it's built into kids that lack of certain maturity which they probably won't ever really have until they're in their middle 20s have been on their own have had to struggle have had to struggle all these years. And they'd be like, Dad, you were right. Right. And for me it's not about being right. It's about preparing them but I guess wisdom teaches us also they've got to get their own scrapes. They have to learn. Indeed. Scars are lessons. Oh, yeah. I got lots of those. I got lots of those. I got lots of co-workers and some friends that are in their early and mid 30s that like die hard workout fans. They run 5Ks. They run whatever or they go on these incredible workout things. 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