Bertha Interview

Nathan and Bertha talk about their classes and finals at St. Migrant. Nathan is working on a paper about Hispanic ministry for his Church in the Americas class. He interviews various people for the paper. Nathan asks Bertha about her role as the director for Hispanic ministry in the diocese. She explains that she serves as a bridge between the bishop, diocesan offices, parishes, and the Hispanic community. Her main focus is to be a resource and voice for the parishioners and churches. She also discusses the challenges of incorporating different cultures in a parish with both English and Spanish-speaking communities. Bertha shares her extensive experience in ministry and the various positions she has held. Hi Bertha, this is Nathan, how are you? Hi Nathan, how are you? I'm doing really well. Good, I'm so happy that you want to do this. Yeah, no, I'm excited to do it. Nice, so are you at St. Migrant right now or where? Yes, I'm at St. Migrant. We actually just got done with our last classes before Thanksgiving. Oh, so are you having fun with your finals? No, so we have Thanksgiving week off all of next week and then we go back for a week after that. And that's when I'll take my finals. Oh, okay. So, not quite done. Okay, at least you're off with Thanksgiving, that's good. Yeah. That's awesome. I don't know if you know, but I'm taking classes at St. Migrant right now. Oh yes, I think I ran into you earlier this semester. Yeah, so I have to do my final before next week, so I'm working on that all this week. Oh yeah, that's exciting. What class are you taking here, Dave? I'm taking in-person, I'm taking two. So the one in-person is Theological Anthropology. And then the one online is with Father Nord, Paul Nord, and then Paul's Theology, yeah, and his letters. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's just a lot of work, a lot of reading. Yeah, I would imagine. Are your finals for those classes, are they papers or is it some kind of test you have to take? Yeah, they're both papers. Okay. We'll see for sure, just getting it all done, but yeah. Yeah. It'll happen. I understand that. I've still got my papers to get done, so. Oh, I'm glad. So are you going off for Thanksgiving, or? Yeah, I think I'm going to head back to Evansville on Sunday and take advantage of the quiet here to try to get some stuff done, but we'll see if it happens or not. It will, it will. You can do lots of things on another show. Good. So do you have questions then, or did you just want me to tell you? What is it? What is your plan? Yeah, I've got a few questions I was going to ask you, but as I'm asking you, if there's anything else you just want to kind of talk about, you're welcome to. Okay. But yeah, so this is a paper that we're doing for our Church in the Americas class, and so I'm going to do it. I'm interviewing a few different people about Hispanic ministry in the diocese, so then I'm just going to kind of make a paper based on that. Okay. So I'll go ahead and ask you a couple questions, if that's okay. Yeah, of course. Okay, so as the director for Hispanic ministry in the diocese, what all does your position kind of entail? What all are you in charge of? Oh my, that's a very broad question. Okay, I guess the best way to describe it, I'm like a bridge between bishop, you know, bishop seals, all the diocesan offices, and then all the parishes and their communities, and the Hispanic Latino community. So my main focus is to be a resource and like a voice, you know, for the parishioners and the churches with the diocese and vice versa. So in a bigger picture, that's what it is. But what do I do? I do a little bit of everything. So when I, when you stop and look, you know, we have Hispanics in all areas of ministry. Like in the departments affected by, you know, not affected, but we have Hispanics in it. So therefore, you know, one of the very first things I discovered when I came was, you know, every department was like, can you help me translate this into Spanish? Can you help me translate this into Spanish? And I was like, oh my, if I just translate, I'm never going to get anything done. Because everybody, like every office has an aspect of it that influences the Hispanic community, you know, or they need to serve the Hispanic community. So yeah, it's just a little bit of everything. We focus, or my title is more focused on the pastoral aspect of it instead of like outreach. So we used to have an outreach specialist, which we don't right now, but, or a coordinator. But that person would do more of the community, you know, outreach. So for me, it's more of a resource to the priest and to the parishes that serve the Hispanic ministry. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I was, I was actually, so on Wednesdays I go and help out at St. Wendell. And I was talking to Sherry Cooley. And she was, I had mentioned that I was going to talk to you later this week. And she said, oh, well, she does everything. Do you know what I mean? I am a PCL. I am a director of youth ministry. I do a little bit of everything. You know, I help out with vocations, with couples, with marriage prep, with kinship, yeah. Like, yeah, a little bit of everything. So how long have you been working for the diocese in your position? Three years. So this position is brand new. Like, I mean, not really, but yes. So we were under Catholic Charity before. And I don't know if you remember Sharon. She was like the director for Catholic Charity. Yeah. Yeah, so she also supervised offices of Hispanic ministry. So they used to have, like, for my position, basically, was like a coordinator of, you know, like pastoral. But since I came in, that was in 2020, January of 2020. So three years, almost four, oh my gosh. Yeah, almost four years. Since I came in. Yeah, okay. Before you started working for the diocese, were you involved with ministry in any other way? Oh, yeah. So, oh my, where do I begin? So I've been in ministry since I was probably like 15 years old. Oh, wow, yeah. I used to lead, I was the coordinator for a youth ministry parish, you know, in Spanish, youth ministry in Spanish. So I did that, and then I met my husband and everything until I had my kids. So then after that, I mean, and throughout the whole thing, I've done all kinds of ministry, you know, lector, usher, like choir, like everything. And so then after that, like, I went away a few years. Well, I mean, I didn't go away from the church, I was still doing stuff. But I started working for the church when I was 22 years old. And I was a VRE, a VCO. So they hired me to do that back in 2000. Well, whatever, long time ago. So I did that for like 12 years. I was a VRE in California. Oh, okay. Yeah. And so, and then I led like the, well, as a VRE, I had all the religious ed aspects of it. You know, on the CIA, I had first communion, confirmation, all of that. And it was for both English and Spanish on my level. We had three programs going at the same time. Oh, wow. That's a lot. For first communion, we would meet Tuesdays from 5 to 6, and there were like English classes. And then Wednesdays were bilingual classes. And then Thursdays, we had the Spanish classes. And then we had confirmation on Wednesday night. So yeah, and each group, I mean, over 100 kids, you know, so yeah, it was intense. Yeah, that's a lot. So anyways, after I did that, we moved here to Indiana. And so I was out, you know, from ministry for a year because I worked at Memorial for President. Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah, I worked there as a secretary for one year. Oh, okay. Yeah, just a part-time, just while I got kind of adjusted to a new place. Yeah. And then I got hired at St. Ben's to be a youth minister. So I did that for three years at St. Ben's. Okay. Youth ministry slash PCO. So yeah, I was doing that, and then I came here. So yeah, I've been in ministry for a long time. Oh, yeah. So you've had a lot of different experiences with it. Yeah, I've been blessed, honestly. Such a blessing. Yeah. So you said that, I guess you've had a lot of experience with English language ministry and Spanish language ministry. Yeah. What would you say, like what are, I guess the parish you said you were at in California had pretty big ministry in both areas. Yeah. What would you say like some of the biggest challenges you faced with that would be in a parish where you have like a large English speaking group and a large Spanish speaking group? Yeah. I think, well, one of the biggest challenges has always been like incorporating cultures. Mm-hmm. You know, and just having them understand each other, you know. So it's, I mean, it is a challenge. Even on the day-to-day stuff, not with the big things, you know, but in the day-to-day stuff, like the way we function within that community is very different than the way we do things in English. So it works good if you can understand it, but there's like all these challenges as to like how do you get administration, you know, like the principal or the other teachers to understand why we have to do this, you know what I mean? Uh-huh, yeah. And getting everybody on board and collaborating with each other, that's always a challenge. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's, we, so for our class we read a book called Building Bridges, I think. But it was talking about Hispanic ministry, and it said, it was talking about one of the biggest challenges in a parish with two different kind of cultural communities is getting them to, because they kind of come with like different values. Uh-huh. And so there might be a conflict at the service level, but if like the two groups don't kind of understand where each person is coming from, that can be difficult to solve that. Yeah, totally. You know, in so many areas, like I said, it doesn't have to be like big things, but little things, you know. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. 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