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And we are almost live. This is actually a show that is in the can. And I hope I have everything for you. All systems are popping now, so let's hope that they are. We had a great drive on the performance. We did. This is M. Sebastian Araujo with Galen Blodgett and... And we are producing a new show called The Cut. And it's coming to you almost live from the Media Factory in the south end of Burlington, Vermont. This is 99.3 FM. WBQBLT Burlington. Streaming online at 99.3 WBQBLT.org. And you can also follow us on Facebook and every other possible way. We'll see you at the next one. So, The Cut. What The Cut is, is it's on and will be published here bi-weekly. And it's a curious show. It's quite curious, I think. It is a... What we're doing is we're producing a show that we will endeavor to find out when all the stuff is going on. How do we cope? How do we think? What do we do? Do we bother? Is it necessary to be concerned about the world that we live in? Or should we just be siloed and just working on our own lives and letting the rest of us fall apart? I don't know. So, it's about me wanting to go back to a special place in my heart, in the great American Southwest, and preach for a people and to a place that I really love. Now, I've been back a number of times and, you know, I was hoping to get back and the Lord gave me this message about, like, three, four years ago. So, I waited a couple of years and then the COVID showed up. And so, I really wanted to preach this message. And when I got there, I was thinking of titling it The Sermon After a Song by Emmylou Harris. She sings it and it was written by Kate Wolfe. Love still remains. We have a godly love for a godly people and a godly place. Love still remains. Now, that's one of the verses of that song. It rolls down the dusty street and rides above the rain and looms lots of time away out on the open plains. Yes, the love I have for you will remain. Now, it's not a religious song, but we're applying it to God's people, right? And whatever God's people are, they're together. And who is it? And how is it? And what are those things that are going to help us make the cut in our own daily life, in our own daily head, in the world around us? And what are the things that are going to sort of propel us? And also, what's the stuff that's going to prevent us? Because I think right now we're in one of those diametrically opposed moments where, if you don't like me, if you don't agree with me, and there's lots of tumbleweeds, right? And the tumbleweeds are always running in the wind. And they blow with the wind about 10 to 15 miles an hour to the northeast. They go along, tumble, tumble, tumble, and then they gather themselves up at the fence lines, and then they go over the fence lines. You know, the wind is so strong, even the trees start to bend in that direction. Oh, if our lives would bend toward the direction of God's Holy Spirit, we would go where He wants us to go and say what He wants us to say, like those trees, right? And we would be formed by God's Spirit Himself. And that wind is so strong that if you're playing a soccer game, it feels like, literally, you have one or two extra players on your team because if you're going with the wind, it is so easy. If you're going against the wind, it's very hard to score any goals, I tell you what. Now, well, I haven't been able to get back there, you know? And we can blame it on the COVID, but whatever it is, I haven't been able to go back and preach. And, you know, so after, like, four years of sitting on this message, you know, there's a little bit of, like, well, Lord, can I preach this message anyway? I'd really like to preach it, okay? So here I am, and the Lord is letting me preach this message to you, okay? And I know fully, we're all on these emotions. I know fully that thousands of people were saluting Him, and it was that emotion, okay? It just doesn't cut it, you know? It doesn't sharpen our spiritual ire, so to speak, you know? It doesn't really bless us with quick feet for the gospel, right? And I like to do things on God's timing, okay? And that's the way we should be, you know? But there's things in life, like nostalgia and like emotions that aren't imbued with the Spirit of God, certain emotions can sort of distract us, okay? But what we want to do is get the Holy Spirit in those emotions. And that He will guide us in all things, teach us all things. And so emotions can be a blessing. And that solidifies opinions, and some of those opinions can be really dangerous. So we don't, you know, historically, pre-Internet, pre-social media, there had to be a certain amount of tolerance for other people's ideas and ideals because they are your neighbor. And you don't want them to wazz on your house when it's on fire, or so to speak. So, you know, and you want to be there for them as well. And I think that we've kind of lost sight of that a little bit as we've become more siloed in the world, as you put it. Right, right. So what are the ways, do you think, that people can create that awareness and that openness? There has to be a certain degree of confidence in yourself first, right? Because you can't navigate the world on other people's opinions. Because when you're getting the praise, you're going to be on top of the world. Then you get one critique, not criticism, but a critique on how you're doing things, and it can shatter the opinion itself. So really being confident in who you are in the world is arguably the most important part in moving forward and trying to heal. You know, there's this old saying that is a cliché, and I really don't particularly like it, and I completely agree with it, which is, be the change you want to see in the world. Right. Oh, absolutely. And yet, sometimes that change is difficult to find, I think, because it's difficult to find out who you are. And really address it and dress the part and live it on a daily basis, because, I mean, I always think everything is drag, you know, like the person who says, oh, I don't care about style or I don't care about clothes, that's their style, you know, that's their act. And then those of us that are a bit more savvy or a bit more cashmere and silk and all that kind of stuff. So it was interesting when you said critique versus criticism, because as soon as you said that, I thought, okay, those are vastly different things. Yeah. And I think social media gives us critiques, you know, and a little recourse, because you don't want to be the person, you know, having the battle on Facebook or Instagram. You know, you don't want to be like going too neck and neck. And also a lot of times you just throw it up and you don't even pay attention to it anymore, so you don't even see that they just said, oh, oh. Yeah, coming back at you. Right, you know. So I think it's interesting, that idea of critiquing. And also we do it ourselves anyway. You know, we do it to ourselves and we do it to other people, because we all scroll through everything and we look at it and we're like, oh, God, why is she wearing that? Well, I mean, it's interesting, too, because, you know, I was having a conversation about, like, you know, we're watching, you know, we're at a drag show or we're at this other thing and we're critiquing a performance or we're critiquing a look or something along those lines, and we're saying, you know, we don't want to be critical. Criticism builds growth. It does. It's also important. I mean, it's a necessary thing. It's extremely important. How we critique is what's important, though. Demeanor is important. And I think that there's all these different ways that we communicate in the world, right? You know, there's my facial expressions, my tone, my gestures. You said this interesting thing of, like, okay, you're getting dressed in the morning and you're the person who doesn't care about your clothes, so you're putting on the clothes that you don't care about. Well, you're trying to present to the world that you don't care about your clothes. Okay. So, yes, 100%. It is all drag. 100% it's drag. And, you know, I have a rule at my job, which I work in an automotive shop, so, you know, wearing a suit to work every day is probably not the wisest decision. And it's, I wear a collared shirt. That's my uniform is I wear a collared shirt. Right. You know, I don't necessarily wear something with our company logos on it just because I prefer not to. And I'm in a position where I don't necessarily have to do that. Right. But it's, you know, how you present to the world is important and how you convey who you are to the world is important. And what you'll get back from that is also very important because the reality is, you know, I used to, I was in sales for a while, and you have seconds to make a first impression. And that first impression is arguably the most important part of your relationship with that person. Correct. And it's the thing that they remember, how you look, how you sound, how you smell. I mean, there's science about all of this stuff. You know, a friend of mine always said, you know, that's, that was that old thing where you spit before you shook hands, because it was like this bonding, like this like DNA thing, you know, and, and then of course, came the COVID came along, and no one spit on their hand anymore. But I gotta be honest with you, I don't think I was spitting on my hands before COVID. Well, not to shake maybe. So, you know, so yes, so I agree with you, there are all of these layers, there's like layers upon layers upon layers of who we are, how the world perceives us, and then how we perceive ourselves. Exactly. You know, It gets complicated. I mean, this is, you know, really what we're talking about is, how do we work in our own psychology in the world? Right. There's this really interesting quote. It was from a guy I think was on TikTok or something like that. Understanding yourself is like trying to touch your fingertip with your finger. It's there. Right. But you can't actually do it. Correct. Right. And even beyond that, I like to say that our brains are kind of like the ocean, right? Okay. They're deep in some places, they're shallow in some places. We've explored little, we understand less, and they're full of trash. Yes, on good days, yes. So how do we navigate that? How do we navigate that and say, okay, no, this is who I am in the world, and do it from our own perspective and our own confidence of identity, and being willing to adapt our identity as we change in the world? Because we're not resolute. We are squishy human beings. Right. And we do mess up. We do tell lies. We do tell truths. We do all of those things. We're like multi-colors, you know? We're like this full-spectrum thing that constantly is blowing up. And, you know, like those sea flowers, whatever those things are called, that open and close, and they absorb the sand and they filter through. And, you know, that's how I always like to think of myself, at least. You know, like this thing that opens and absorbs and closes and tries to figure out how to use all that absorption and recreate stuff that's needed. So I think what do you think, how do you think people can figure out how to sort of do it themselves? Ooh. I don't know necessarily that we can. I think there has to be, you know, there has to be a certain degree of influence on the outside. And, I mean, I'm kind of known of or have been known in the past of, you know, being this masculine guy. And I'm big and I'm strong. And, you know, I have jobs where I, you know, carry a gun. Do big strong things. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to explore the woods. And the other side of that is, you know, I am a strong proponent for therapy and having a counselor, having a sounding board, having somebody with an education or a background that you can talk to because, you know, we are trying to touch our fingertip. And having an outside perspective is important. I think only cats can do that. Yeah, exactly. They can probably do that because they can touch every part of their body. I am not a kitty. I hate to admit it. So I think that, you know, it starts with a question of am I happy? Okay, good. And, you know, even deeper than that, what is happiness? Right, right. And if the answer is, you know, no, I mean, there's a number of factors that can go into that. And, you know, for me, when I think of happiness, I don't think of happiness. Joy is not happiness. There is joy as part of happiness, but happiness is really largely acceptance and reasonable expectations of ourselves and the world and, you know, acceptance of good times and bad times and understanding that, you know, there are tough emotions and that's okay. Right. And if we don't have that certain level of acceptance and that certain level of that baseline, what do we need to do in order to get there? And if the answer is, you know, seek outside help or it's, you know, changing your daily routine or it's work or it's house or it's, you know, the circles that we keep, the people that are around us, if that needs to change, being willing to do that and being willing to do that with confidence, that's a very challenging thing, especially nowadays as we feel increasingly siloed. Yeah, I think happiness is, you know, and it's that like elusive dream, you know, like take a yoga class and you'll be happy. Well, you'll probably feel better physically because I know I do it every day and you do feel better physically, and it does release some of those endorphins that the same, you know, that get released when you're happy, but those are sort of like false highs, you know. Well, I mean, it's also like we, I think... And you crash. Yeah. I mean, part of that is when we look at the world today, we all operate at this really high level of anxiety, and anxiety is such an important emotion. We talk about anxiety and we kind of talk about it as this BS thing. No, anxiety is very real. It's extremely important. Anxiety is the feeling where, you know, you're in the field hunting the deer and, you know, the sun just comes up and the deer, you see the deer come into the meadow and you're downwind, they can't smell you. Or it gets their anxiety up. And then you see the ears perk up and they look around and they don't know that you're there, but they know something's wrong. And then the herd picks up on that anxiety and then they're gone, just like that. Right. That anxiety has kept us alive for... Absolutely. So we can't deny it, but we're not getting chased by bears anymore. So how do we deal with it? So the yoga class reduces the anxiety, but we can't loop that in with happiness. That's a different thing. Right. Right. Because I think happiness is like a fundamental thing. You know, it's not really an ideal plane. It is an actual thing that is like air and water. It's a human need. Sure. And we all need it. And like air and water, you can acquire it. But I think it's also one of those things that you do have to seek out and you do have to find. But it's not like a tangible thing. It's not like, you know, you can buy something. Because, yeah, it might momentarily make you feel like, ooh, I just got that new watch. But that's not happiness. That's a little euphoric, a little joy, a little greed, a little uh-oh. I think we mix up the happiness with the dopamine rush. Right. And that relates to, you know, buying a new suit, if you're me. Or, you know, it can be that dopamine rush can be flipping that person off on the highway. Or it can be, you know, we're dealing with an opiate epidemic. And, I mean, I think that a lot of that opiate epidemic has to do with how we cope. And, you know, maybe not having the right tools to cope with the world. And I think that's a dangerous thing. Because where do we go to find that? Right. Right. Especially, yeah, because as we said before, because we're living in a world that doesn't have the tools. I was driving down, I was listening, and they were talking about how most Americans have, like, how many books did the average American read last year? Do you know? I can tell you I read, like, none. It's more than one. That's impressive. But I was thinking, okay, 10. Or I thought 12, one a month. Personally, I think I read about 40 books last year. Holy smokes. But, and, you know, and putting the subtitles up on Netflix does not count as reading a book. Oh, well, then that's, I've gone into the negative. So it's two. Okay. And I just thought, wow. And then they compared it to some other countries, and most other countries the average is 10 to 20. Wow. And, like, places like Denmark, it's way over, like, 30 to 50, depending upon the individual and the sort of, not education level, but the need for, you know, like the person's career or position in life. And so I just thought, wow, okay, so that explains a lot. But then I want to know who's buying all these million-seller books, if that's people in Denmark. Apparently. So, you know, so it is this ongoing quest, and it is this ongoing idea of what is happiness, and how do we attain it. Or is it, like, just an elusive thing that sometimes we have, sometimes we don't? Well, I mean, I think what we're talking about is really understanding emotion, right? And, you know, anxiety is this very complicated thing of, you know, if I talk about myself, you know, for years and years and years, I said, I'm an angry person. I'm just, you know, this is how I am. No, I wasn't angry. I was anxious. I was anxious about the world. And as soon as I stopped treating the symptom, the symptom being anger, and started treating the anxiety, things started to become clearer. And I think it's the same thing with happiness of, you know, is it elusive? Maybe. But really it has to do with our perspective more than anything else, and how do we perceive ourselves? How do we perceive the world around us? So there's this really interesting fact about – I can't remember the country exactly, but they have the highest percentage of happy people, okay? I think that's Finland. Thank you. I was going to say Norway, but I was in the right, like, area, geographic area. I haven't read any books, so I don't know the geography. So, you know, and why is that? And the reason was expectations. You know, in the United States we have hustle culture, which I hate to subscribe to, but I do. And the hustle culture says you constantly, you've got to go. You wake up in the morning, you go, you get it done. You know, and do I do that? You've got to earn your place. That's how you earn your money. And, you know, with the economy the way that it is and how we interact with each other the way that it is, you know, there's a certain need for that. I hate to say it, but if you over-expect, if you over-expect from yourself and then you fail, that can be crushing, and that can eat into that happiness that we're all trying to seek. And we're also living in a time where we have been told by all of our American sources that it's okay to misbehave and grab and take, you know. And what's going to happen? Well, I'm not going to, you know, impeachment is now a dead letter, you know. It's like it's in the dead letter office. The highest job in the land you can be impeached for, and it goes up in the dead letter office, and no one really cares. So I think that sort of unleashed this other, as you said, the hustle culture, which is kind of like triple time now. It's not just the hustle culture, but it's like this triple thing. Well, I mean, you're dealing with, you know, not only all of the, so in the last four years, what did we see? You know, we saw the pandemic starts, and then we're all at home. And we had this, at least I can speak for myself, I was home for about a month and a half, two months, with my three-year-old daughter, and we spent every day together. And we would go on these adventures, and she would drive her little electric car down the thing, and, you know, go mudding and stuff like that. And we'd come back, and, you know, we would do meetings online, et cetera. And, you know, but it was like this taste of what life was supposed to be like. You know, where you're raising your own kid, and you're out in the sunshine and all these things. And then that crumbled into a, you know, a serious mental health crisis of the suicidal ideation goes through the roof. You know, and then that crumbles into, you know, the opiate epidemic going through the roof. And then, you know, and then the economy goes to shambles, and it's in the midst of all of this social upheaval, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So it's insanely easy to lose track, and it's so important to have a solid sense of self as we're moving forward, because the hustle culture, I mean, it is ingrained. I hate to say it, money is part of our survival nowadays. It just is. Well, it always was. I mean, especially now as we've seen this massive increase in the cost of things, you know, how do we navigate that and still maintain? Because if we don't have ourselves, then we've got nothing. You know, you've got to put your oxygen mask on first. I know this. I've got two kids. If I don't put my oxygen mask on first, I can't save them. And that has to do with everything. Correct. Happiness, love, money. And what happens when the door falls off the airplane? Hopefully you know how to fly. You know, that iPhone landed 16,000 feet in someone's backyard out of that Boeing airplane because the door fell off and the iPhone landed in someone's backyard. I didn't hear about this. Oh, yeah, yeah, this week. It landed in someone's backyard completely unbroken and unfazed, and the person was able to pick it up, and it was open to the in-flight plan, so they were able to identify whose iPhone it was because they had their in-flight plan information. So somehow I have a feeling iPhone stock went up when that happened. Oh, my goodness. So we know now you can fall 16. You'll be dead, but your iPhone will still be working. You know what's really fascinating, too? I was thinking about this the other day. I was watching Moonraker. Uh-huh, sure. And he goes to Venice, right? And it's like, and the person I was watching was, oh, man, I want to go to Venice sometime. And I was like, yeah, that would be pretty cool. It's beautiful. Here's the thing. The world when that was made was big. Yes, it was enormous. It was huge. Exactly. It was an ordeal just to get somewhere, and now we're at a point where you drop something from 16,000 feet, 30,000 feet, whatever, and they're just going to search it real quick and figure out who you are and whatever. The world is very small now. Oh, the world is finally the size that it actually is, you know, because it was always that six degrees of separation anyway, and your mother always knew where to find you. So no matter how far away you thought you were, boom, all she has to do is pull that umbilical cord and you're back there. Oh, my goodness. The thing I always wanted to know about Moonraker is how did they keep Roger Moore's hair on? Talk about sartorial style. He was wearing a veal cutlet the whole time. Most of his career he had a veal cutlet on his head. Well, so did Sean Connery. Yes, but Sean Connery wasn't playing James Bond with that on his head. He was younger when he was James Bond, and you could see his hair was thinning. Yeah, you could. But Roger Moore always had that thing. He had a rug on golden, or excuse me, not golden eye. Golden eye is what I grew up with. That's my generation. Right. But goldfinger, he had a toupee. Okay, okay, maybe. They slapped the toupee on him. But, you know, Roger Moore, I just always wanted to know how they kept that on his head because you could see it moving. You know what's funny is my six-year-old daughter sees Roger Moore and she goes, why does he look like a baseball mitt? Because he's kind of. He was pretty rugged. He was pretty rugged. Especially towards the end. He kind of didn't want it. He was an older Bond at that point. Yeah, he was always sort of the James Bond that I always wondered how he got the job. Like, who did he know? Well, you know what's interesting because we're talking about sartorial stuff and how he presented the world. Back then. That's the image. Yeah, to look older was attractive. Sort of. Sure. It wasn't healthy older. Not necessarily, right? No, it wasn't. I mean, those guys were not healthy. Cranking down cigarettes and gin and tonics. And it wasn't just on camera. It was in the daily life. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, so, so, yeah, so all those things have shifted. But yet here we are. It's now the 21st century. We have the whole 20th century to look at. And being a historian. I mean, I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. I'm a historian. 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