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Professor Karen Burns, a life coach, discusses the theme of "Turn Every Page" and shares her thoughts on self-expression and embracing new opportunities. She talks about her own experiences and upcoming job transition, emphasizing the importance of pursuing one's interests regardless of age or experience. She encourages listeners to be open to new experiences and to make their jobs work for them. She also highlights the significance of capturing and relishing every moment and relationship in life. That's right, don't give up, and we have on the line with us, this evening, we'll turn every page, explore all things, is Professor Karen Burns, our Light Coach, calling in from cross-country Arkansas, with some information for you today, hello, hello, hello, welcome. Can you hear me? You can hear me? Yes, I can. Can you hear me? Okay. I can hear you very well, thank you, and I am tuning in today and calling you from atop a beautiful Ozark mountain overlooking the White River in northwest Arkansas, and from where I'm sitting, I can see mountains that are probably, I don't know, a couple of miles in the distance, which is actually the Missouri border, so pretty far north in the state of Arkansas right now, and I'm hoping that my AirPods are charged, because I'm taking this lovely weekend, and even though I have all the modern conveniences in this beautiful cabin overlooking this spectacular view and experience of nature, and I've been out in it, of course, all weekend, I am, I'm here sort of recharging, because I'm prepping myself, my mind, my soul, my spirit for my next adventure, which starts on Monday, which I may have told you about, Linda, and that is, in addition to continuing my thinking and writing and coaching as a life coach, which is my side gig right now, as I get closer to retirement, I also am still working full-time jobs to continue exploring the things that I'm interested in, and, of course, to build up my financial benefits through those, you know, employer relationships, and so I've been in Arkansas now for two and a half, almost two and three-quarters a year, and when I arrived, I started a job in K through 12 education, which was something I had never, you know, industry, sector, public agency, the whole thing I had never been in before, so it's been quite a ride, as I've had very steep learning curves and all of those experiences, but today, the topic is Turn Every Page, and because I'm starting another chapter, Turning the Page in My Life, I'm using that theme to sort of give us, to center us on a topic that is similar to some of the ones we've been exploring over the last couple of podcasts, and that has to do with self-expression, so I'm still kind of on this whole self-expression theme, and as you know, and as your listeners may know by now if they've listened in to us in this Cross Country Connect, that I tend to be fueled by popular culture and research and the social sciences, and I often get my ideas for our discussions by handling an idea from something I have seen or listened to recently, so today, I chose Turn Every Page because that is the name of a film, a documentary film, that a famous American editor's daughter made of her dad recently, and her dad is Robert Gottlieb, and Gottlieb is like publishing royalty in the East Coast slash New York book scene, and parts of which you get to see and experience vicariously during the film, so that whole New York publishing empire you get to see during the film, because Robert Gottlieb has been an editor who's been at the center of that for 50 and more years, and the daughter, an adult daughter, is making this film to show, pay homage to her father and the cultivation of a relationship of his that he's had over 50 years with a famous author, so you've got this editor, her dad, Bob Gottlieb, and then one of his authors who's a very famous non-fiction writer, Bob Caro, and Bob Caro, the other Bob, has a series of books that have become very famous over the past 50 years for thinkers and writers and politicians because he studies power and the structure of power, and actually through the lens of his exploration and interest in the life of Lyndon B. Johnson, who was important for me as a coming of age in those generations, because LBJ, despite what a complicated and sort of conflicted character he was on the national scene in American politics, he is known for passing some of the most important civil rights laws in our recent American history, and also sort of bucking the system in pushing through some very difficult and thorny times in America's history. Anyway, Lyndon Johnson has been studied by many, but Caro's books are the ones that a lot of East Coasters and those types keep on their bookshelf as kind of like the playbook of the power structure and how to do things in politics in America, but anyway, the point of me watching the documentary and sharing that idea and this lens of lifelong partnerships and relationships is the film itself is beautiful and touching, and as you get to experience Robert Gottlieb's and Bob Caro's unique editor-author relationship through, sort of up close, through the daughter's eyes, you are struck, and this is where it brought me to, you are struck not only with the empire of their literary influence from millions of readers following their work in America over five decades, but you learn through the film to relish the intimacy of their own prickly but productive friendship as the two of them reach the apex of, get this, their 90s. So the subjects of the film are in their 90s. The two men are very old, but are still very vital, working to complete their opus of their work together, the final book in the LBJ series, and viewers or people who watch the movie are inspired that the two in their 90s will complete the work. In any event, the idea of turning every page brought to mind for me the vulnerability of mankind, our relationships with one another, and the importance of capturing and relishing every single moment, every relationship, every opportunity to learn and experience wherever you can get to and from, and whoever you can encounter during your life travels. So it's the topic of being fully present in the moment and embracing that it is happening. So one of the main things I want to cover today brought together by the idea of turning every page in your life, being immersed in the page in front of you, so to speak, but also continuing to turn the next page and the next page, and continuing to explore the limitless opportunities that open up in your life while you acknowledge the finite number of minutes, hours, days, months, years perhaps left in your life. So here are my thoughts based on some of the personal experiences I've had of late, and as usual, Ms. Linda, I put them in a little list. Okay, so if you are taking notes, number one on the list is, here's the first one, go where your interests take you. We are living in a time of unprecedented growth, technology, and opportunity. Your ability to explore the world is virtually limitless. How you choose to explore and participate and contribute is up to you. So there's room for every kind of personal expression, right? So again, like we do sometimes as I share my own personal experience and why this is the topic that's on my mind and in my heart right now. So here's mine. Personally, I'm excited to be approaching another new chapter of my own exploration and growth. I'm starting a new day job next week after two and three quarters years, learning a little bit about pre-K through 12 education in the state of Arkansas. And my role here the past couple of years has been as a state-level advisor in family and community engagement for the state's public school districts. There are 259 school districts currently, and I made relationships with about 60 coordinators of parental involvement activities at schools in the southwest region of the state of Arkansas. And in that job, I provided training, consultation, and technical assistance for their work that's required by law and insight. Okay, so in my new chapter, I will be called an innovation specialist, and I'll be working to help inventors, researchers, and entrepreneurs in Arkansas take their ideas and products to market, helping to launch their startups by assisting their applications for federal funding by America's Seed Fund. Okay, and for our listeners today, America's Seed Fund, if you haven't heard of it, is actually the Small Business Innovation Research Grant, and also the Technology Transfer Grant that the federal government provides. And there's about a dozen federal agencies, you know, like the Department of Defense and the Department of Education, you know, I think the National Institutes of Health. I still have a lot to learn. The National Science Foundation, many of these federal agencies will help businesses get off the ground that are research-enabled. So this is very technical and specific to science and academia, and also people who are entrepreneurs who want to bring those ideas and products to market and have them commercialized for the betterment of society and, you know, for the greater good. So that said, the reason this job appealed to me is that I'm something of an idealist, and also, as a journalist by training, I enjoy being an observer of other people's life pursuits and being able to help translate their challenges and victories through my writing, consulting, and in this case, my new job, coaching them to win potentially up to $2 million in seed funding. So that's the most you can get in an America's Seed Fund award is $2 million. Okay, so I guess what I want to say about this job and why I'm excited about it is I hope to be able to bridge the gap between their ideas and their inventive solutions in the markets they seek to reach. I'll be helping them with their grant applications, which are very competitive, and on this theme of turning every page, helping them open a world of opportunities that being awarded the funding can bring to their organization. And I hope to be able to help them. Obviously, there will be a lot of networking, linking the services that our consulting agency provides, and I'll be writing, talking, publishing, presenting. That's kind of my bag. That's my jam. And I've been teasing and telling my friends that they need to get to know me and tell people that I'm the grant girl. I'm going to be this innovation grant girl in Arkansas because there's only one in Arkansas, and there are other people doing this role in other states in the United States. So I think there's about 1,000 of these, you know, small business development centers that offer consulting in the United States. But anyway, I'm excited about it because I'm both an idealist and a pragmatist. Having the opportunity to assist creative people in commercializing their genius appeals to me. So on my personal side, I've got my life coaching, helping people break through and achieve new opportunities. And then this sort of side of me now is going to be going back to consulting and helping other people that way, but those two consulting roles don't really match, and there isn't any overlap between the two. But I think it's a good fit for my background in business and marketing, and I'm looking forward to turning the page. Okay. So the question I have, the number one on the list was go where your interests take you. And in this case, this is where my interests have taken me. So the question to our listeners today is where will your interests take you? So after listening to that long explanation, Ms. Linda, and I'm talking about, you know, the steps that have happened and the things that have come into view to sort of guide me to this next path on my journey, what are your thoughts and comments about where will your interests take you? Well, I'm sitting up here with a big smile on my face, Professor Berry, because they have the right person to get that done, especially, you know, as detailed and as structured and as competitive as that position will be, you know, you're writing, networking, and presenting, and going into using everything that you have, I shall say they have the right person. Now, thank you. My mind, thank you. My mind, you know, I get ideas every minute of the day. But my page is going into a direction that totally satisfies me. Okay. That brings me happiness and joy. That, you know, to demonstrate I have all types of thoughts. I'll give you an example. I am the type of individual who do not like to go up past the third floor. But here lately, I've been very, very, very in tune to airplanes, pilot schools, and I'm saying, where is this coming from? Okay. So, all of a sudden, I just want to pilot a plane, not a big commercial jet. Oh, yeah, it's real crazy. And I look in the mirror. You want to be a pilot. Is that what it is? But, you know, I thought about it, and I said, where did this all stem from? So, over the holidays, I was telling my sister, I said, you know, maybe I don't want to fly on a plane, I don't want to go on a plane, maybe I'll take a private jet and she was laughing. So, after I found out the cause, I said, I'll have to fly in there on boo-boo's wings because I'm not going to drop that for a seat. But what really hit me after I had that wonderful thought was, wait a minute, you're up there in a private jet, and something could happen to the pilot. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Your life is in the hands of someone else's. You know you like to be in control. So, that's where it all started. So, it moved away from me to being there to be of help and service to others. I need to know how to bring that bad boy down, okay? That's what hit my mind. And that is a way, actually, that's a really good thought process because what you're doing is you're supporting part of the theme today, which is mitigating risks. So, really what we're talking about is things that may seem a little daunting or over like a stretch for you personally. One of the things that's natural to do is to start identifying what the risks are and talking in your head, kind of going back and forth like you're saying, the pros and cons and what you need to learn or do or acquire, skills you may need to acquire to address some of those risks. That's perfect. So, let's keep going with that. That's exactly where I am. So, number one on the list was where will your interests take you? And you just gave a really great illustration of that. Mine was job related, but yours was still life enrichment related, which is exactly what we're talking about. This doesn't have to be a discussion about your profession or your job, this thing, about self-expression. So, number two on my list for our listeners today is don't let your age or experience be a, quote, limiting factor, close quote. Okay. So, again, back to my story, I'm close to retirement age, but I'm not interested in retiring anytime soon. Some people are afraid to take on new interests or challenges because they fear they are risking too much, to your point, or might be, quote, too old or might not, quote, know how to traverse the new territory. So, I have to say again from personal experience, just as me, that as fearful as I've been over the years to take each new step and turn a new page, I've been grateful and rewarded tenfold by taking the risk to do it. I cannot express how important and how vital it is to push towards the things you dream about and imagine as good for your life journey, like Robert Gottlieb and Bob Cairo, the men I referenced from the theme, the Turn Every Page theme, whose careers are still delighting and fulfilling their days well into their 90s. Okay. I was inspired to see their energy and commitment to pursue to the life of the mind, or of the life of the mind, and how they singly and together labored over more than 50 years to bring insight, perspective, entertainment, knowledge, and delight to generations of readers, thinkers, and doers in America and across the planet. Okay. So, to the point, on the list, I wanted this question back to listeners about don't letting your age or experience be a limiting factor. A question back to them based on Bob is what is your legacy? What are you pursuing that is your unique gift to mankind? Okay. So, there's a question for our journals, people who are writing the journals and who like to think about these life coaching things. Okay. Then number three in the list is to watch for, listen to, and be open to new experiences and opportunities. Okay. Here's the lecture part. I am sure I'm not alone in being inspired by other people's ingenuity and passion for self-expression. In fact, I've been invited tonight. I'm in the northwest part of Arkansas. I've been invited to the gallery walk, which is a bunch of fine artists who are going to be painting and doing their thing and demonstrating their craft, and all of the doors to the gallery and the art studios around town. It's a little mountain community, so there are a lot of little art studios. They're going to open their doors, and people can just wander through and talk to the artists about their work. I happened to meet one of the artists, because I've never been a stranger, Linda. I was driving through town, and I slowed down, saw this guy out on the sidewalk in the neighborhood, and he was painting a landscape. I said, what are you doing? I rolled down my window, what are you doing? He ended up telling me his whole life story, inviting me to this event tonight. I'm planning to go, because it's a bunch of creative, cool people, and I'll get to hear all of their great stories. Again, that's one of my passions, is sort of living vicariously through other people's creativity. Also, it's important for this trip and this weekend for me, because as you and I have explored this topic, Linda, we have been blogging and podcasting over the past year about watching and listening to the signs in your own life to fuel your self-expression. Here are the questions for our listeners. What are you watching, listening to, and what are you open to as new opportunities may come into view for your own life? The second question in that series, what ideas interest you, if you're writing this down, what kind of people do you like to surround yourself with? While you're taking notes, here's another question. Where do you see your own gifts making a difference? How can you contribute, both as an individual with your talents and unique offerings to the world and in a community, and as part of a group or community? I tend to lean towards career and creative expressions. That's where this topic has gone. The last one in the list is kind of a quote, one of those Karen isms, one of those coachy things that I've been saying over the years to coaching clients and as I've been mentoring students as a professor working with adult students in the College of Business and other places with my marketing background. This is a quote that I know people have heard me say a lot. It's make your job work for you, not the other way around. I've been saying this to myself, I've been saying this to myself and other people for decades. The reason I do is because I've seen my job over the years as a kind of utility, like a tool, something I can use to help me live the lifestyle that I want. Anytime I've worked really hard or had a lot of responsibility as an example to make six figures or some supreme financial goal that was what I thought I needed at the time, I personally found that the trade-off didn't work for me. Over the years, I discovered that I needed my jobs and my side gigs to fulfill my creativity and desire to give back more than I needed them to quote make me rich. The people experiences, the people experiences have always been more important to me in a sense than the money. Here's my story, the headaches, office politics and self-sacrifice of some high status or high paying professional job that I might have taken on left me more depleted than filled or fulfilled. For me personally, where I am in my life journey, it's okay for me to take a lower paying position as long as it still allows me to use my creativity, my practical skills and continue to explore the things that interest me. In this case, we're talking about taking these journeys of self-expression. This case for me what this new path does is open up the life of the mind and working with other idealists and helping create a greater understanding and opportunities for their ideas in the world. My questions back to our listeners. For me, like I said, money is not the thing. It's the life of the mind and sharing these ideas that I feel like I won the lottery. My questions for you based on number four, which is make your job work for you and not the other way around. The questions are how you make your work work for you and not the other way around. The next question is what are you willing to give up in order to achieve the soul nourishment that you need to feel fulfilled and operating at your creative best? Then the final question, what are the basics you need, basics you need that we're talking about tradeoffs and stuff. What are the basics you need as you pursue your own self-expression, whether that's in the business world, academia, the arts, or some other realm? Okay, your thoughts. Here we go. What are you willing to give up? Making your job work for you and not the other way around. We're basically talking about that whole topic is about the sacrifices or tradeoffs versus the pros and cons of deciding as you continue to invest in your creativity and the things that allow you to feel like you're fully expressing yourself in the world. What are you willing to invest or what are you willing to give in order to achieve that? Maybe we go back to your example, Linda, of learning to fly a plane. How does that play out for you? What am I willing to give up? It's like, well, first of all, I don't want to go for a blast because those academies, they're very expensive. I've been asking around. It's a mindset thing. You do your bullet point list. You ask all of these questions. Well, look, I just want to learn the instrumentation, the up-throttle, the down-throttle. That's all I need to know and the button to watch because my main concern is not having a pilot in the plane but getting everybody to safety, including myself. I'll give you an example. Over the holidays, they had a lot of flight cancellations and Southwest. It was chaotic. I was speaking with my family, which are all characters. I said, you know, you guys don't look at TV and see your auntie up there with a hat on the side landing that plane. They started laughing. They said, you would be the one to do it. I said, because I have to get back to LA. My flight is going up out of here. I need to get back. They said, well, auntie, you don't even know how to work the landing gears. I said, I don't care about the landing gears. We can do a belly flop as long as we hit that ground. They just laughed about it, but I thought about it. I've been asking questions like, well, do you have a partial class that just shows me the instrumentations and the up-throttle and the down-throttle? These people are listening to me. I'm calling around, right? When you say, what am I willing to give up? When you say the word give up, I'm not much of a person that holds on to a lot. I want to give up any fears that are coming. I want to give up any individuals that are around me telling me I can't do it. That goes back to the people that you surround yourself with. I understand that having this knowledge is safety for myself and more so safety for others. I do not like to be in a situation that I don't have control over. When you're up there flying in those clouds, that's control. What do I do to get the basics? I go to the flight pass. I see planes take off and land. I'm trying to identify them. I'm trying to find pictures of the cockpit. I've been in cockpits. I have friends that are pilots, but that's like a strictness there, so every time you get an opportunity. My thing is, all the basics I need is to have my peace of mind and to not be bombarded with worry about what others think or what others say. Just continue to be unstoppable in reaching those goals. My question is, why do you want to do this? Then that fear sets aside, but then that joy comes in because I can see myself landing that jet, a private small plane. I'm not trying to fly for America, no big bad boys, into places that I want to visit like Dubai, Botswana, going into Africa. I just see myself charting and going and taking myself where I need to go. Also, because we are into the empowerment with workshops and things of that nature, I won't have to worry about a schedule. I can just chart it out and get to the next state and do what I have to do. It brings a smile to my face. I see myself doing that, and I'm not 22. When you thought about speaking about age or experience, that never comes apart with me. The only thing that I recognize with this society is if you're over 22, they don't want to be bothered, which I think that they're crazy because that's where the skill and the knowledge comes in. When you run into those types of situations, that fuels you to really, really reach your goal, to make up your mind, to make that switch. Because you know what you're capable of. I was taking notes while you were talking. Let me feedback some things to you because I think you hit on some really important topics that also fit into this discussion today. We've been asking, when you want to turn every page and you want to really leave no page unturned in your life as you're seeking to advance or seeking to achieve goals or seeking just to explore the wonder of the universe, whatever fuels your soul to do that goal, here are some really important things that you said. It is important as you're journeying out or striking out a new ground to reduce risk and take every precaution and learn as much as you can, especially as you play a role in this new direction that you're taking. Then part of why you would do that, which I agree with, is to obtain peace of mind. I wrote, reduce risk, obtain peace of mind. Those are two important things for our listeners to think about. Then you kept your thoughts going and you said, don't worry about what others say. Also very important. Reduce risk, work to obtain peace of mind. Don't worry about what others say. Then you followed that, Linda, and I love that. I'm going to put these on the blog. Be unstoppable in reaching your goals. You also said, find a way to take yourself where you need to be yourself doing it, being there, and use an opportunity to be on your own schedule and to have control over your time. If that's something you value, which by the way, it is something I value. Then overarching that story you just told is a basic question. I hope that this is sparking some ideas for people if they are listening, is to really explore and understand why you want to do this. Your idea of flying so that you can be prepared in the event of an emergency or help other people, bring people to safety, that's a hard driver for you. For me, as I mentioned with this new job starting, working with scientists and entrepreneurs and ventures to bring their ideas to market, the driver is seeing these ideas brought into the world and put to good use to help other people. We're on the same track as we always are when we do these things, even though I start with a broad idea and we wander around until we find what we have in common about it. I think really that's kind of it for me because I'm sitting here looking at this gorgeous Ozark scenery. I don't want to finish too early, but I promised myself I'm going to go walk around this botanical garden that, by the way, is an ancient, it's a Native American historic site. When you read about it, and I hadn't walked through it yet, but there were some natural springs there. Because of the mineral elements in the soil, it changes the color of the water, and this pool that you go see in the midst of these Arkansas Native plants is blue, it's very blue. But the site itself is a National Historic Site because apparently some of the archeological digs there have found artifacts from thousands of years ago, so at least 8,000 years that they know of. So it's a protected space, and it's kind of a sanctuary, and it's got birds and flowers, and it's very pretty. I'm going to take lots of pictures and put them on my Facebook so you can see them. But I want to head out and go over there because where I'm staying, this cabin I'm staying in is not even a half mile from the springs, and so this whole me journeying out in the wilds of Arkansas, but with all the amenities and comforts of home, has been a really important thing for me, and this cabin is just primo. It's been a very creative and spiritual weekend for me, and my little friend Jimmy is with me as it turns out, and so I think he's going to go with me to go check out the Native American Culture Center and the lands, the property that it's on. So we're going to go experience that together, and I just wanted to leave this, so just to recap like we usually do on the topic of turning every page, number one, go where your interests take you. Number two, don't let your age or experience or anything else for that matter be a limiting factor. Number three, watch for, listen to, and be open to new experiences and opportunities. Number four, make your job work for you, not the other way around. And I guess what I would add, maybe number five, based on your experience and your story and the things that you're saying is don't let any obstacles, any obstacles, keep you from what you want, or having the experience you desire, right? So that's it. That's it. That's it for me. Well, you know what? I want you to have a wonderful time. I see all of you. I know you're about nature and the beautiful flowers and all of that, but what I'd like for you to do is I'm going to leave you with this thought, Professor Berry, because you know how my mind is. You find, I'm going to visit and visit that cabin, but I need you to find the spaces. I pretty much know how the layout is, and I'd say definitely in Arkansas, but I know it's space, and just find a space that I can lay that jet down on, because I keep seeing it happen. I've even named it. I've put the color on it. It will have a gold nose. I don't know if that's FAA regulations. I've never seen a private plane with a gold nose, and I've given it a name, and it's the honor of my mother, and I just want to get up there in that sky and fly with her beautiful golden wings, and yeah, it's real crazy for an individual who don't want to go past the third floor. Where is this coming from? But I see it and listen. You're listening to it, and I'm going to put it out there. Who's going to be my co-pilot, okay, because I'm digging deep into this, and it's like we see these visions. We have to see it, speak it, and then we have to be it. Don't know how it's going to come about, but just listen out out there, because I do intend to go from state to state empowering women, and I just like to pilot my own plane to get where I need to go, and don't have to worry about a schedule, and take all of those along that would like to assist and support me. I would say that it's going to be the mission of, I'll think of a name, the mission of happiness, or flight happiness, or whatever, but I see everything, so I'd like to share these things with you. We like to be real and authentic with our listeners, because we are real over here, like this is the way we do it, and hopefully, I know that Professor Byrd has encouraged you. She's an encourager. She's an empowerer. She is a great mentor, and that's why we connect the way we do, and keep in mind, one thing that I'm looking at here is your gifts make a difference, and I have a thing to get me through the not so kind people, or the people that are having a bad day, or they might make an ugly remark, and I just smile and say, excuse me, these are my gifts that I'm getting, and I will not allow you to be in my sun ray, so on that thought, I want to let you know I'm pushing it here. I want you to have a wonderful time, so Mr. Jimmy, hello, enjoy, and the art walk, please take pictures. You know I love art, and that is like my most relaxing, and the stories, and figuring everything out, so please take pictures, and look for my landing path, okay? Enjoy yourself, Professor. I will. And have a great, great time. We love you. Thank you so much. Enjoy, enjoy. That is our life coach, Karen Byrd, and you can see her website. I think it's www.KarenByrd.com. Is that your website, Professor Byrd? That's right. Okay. KarenByrd.com. B-R-G-H. You have to have the H on it. That's right. Put that H there. I forget to leave it, and she always reminds me of it. Professor Byrd, we love you. Enjoy your day, and look for that spot. As soon as you find my clearance, let me know. I need to add that on to my collage and my wish board, okay? I'm coming on in with that gold nose jet, okay? We love you. Gold nose jet. I love it. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Cross Country Connect. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. 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