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Talk: 19880324-Larry_Rosenberg-UNK-balancing_samadhi_wisdom_or_surrendering_to_wisdom-1549 Leandra Tejedor Start_time: 00:49:59 Display_question: What is the difference between observing and investigating in our practice? Keyword_search: noting, primary object, attached, pain, investigation, observing, koan Question_content: Questioner: I’m still a little bit puzzled on one thing. When I have used the noting…something that is a primary object, and something comes, let's say it's a thought, or an image, and I note that it's there… almost inevitably, and I don't do it for this, but almost inevitably it just goes. Larry: Yes. And you don't get attached to it. Questioner: Yeah. Larry: So it's very helpful. Questioner: The only time it sticks around is, if it's pain in the back, then that stays. And then noting, I know…and then I'll stop, and look at it, and literally look at it with the breath. But that's about the only time. But when you spoke just a moment ago, you spoke…I got the impression that one stopped, and looks, whereas my practice has been to note, and then it just sort of went away. Am I confused on this or…? Larry: I don't think it's any different. That is… investigation is investigation, not of anything static, but of a very alive process. Let's say, if it's even pain in the body, you're observing the movement of that pain. It's not standing still, and you're seeing it. If it were noting, you'd probably be saying pain, pain, or maybe sharp pain, or dull ache, or whatever it is. But here I'm not teaching noting, and it might be better if we talk about it privately, because I don't want to give you something else to think that, what am I missing out? I want to come away from here with my money's worth, and get noting as well. Don't forget, there's also koans, and there are all kinds of things you can learn. Questioner: That’s fine. Larry: You got it? Okay, great. End_time: 00:51:45
