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The Super Bowl Logo Conspiracy theory suggests that the colors of the Super Bowl logo indicate which teams will play in the Super Bowl. This theory gained popularity and was covered by mainstream outlets. Aaron Rodgers even mentioned it on a show. The origin of the theory is unclear, but it is believed to have started on a Twitter account called @NFL_memes. The theory is easy to interpret and understand, which contributed to its popularity. However, the theory did not hold true for Super Bowl 58. Welcome to Football Conspiracies. I'm Jared Cole. And I'm Jared Rabinovich. This week's episode, the Super Bowl Logo Conspiracy. For today's episode, we're going to be talking about the Super Bowl Logo Conspiracy. I know you've heard of this one. Like the the recent one. Of course. Oh, OK. OK. Yeah, yeah. And the reason we're picking this for the first episode is actually a couple of reasons. I think the first one is this is what we started talking about football conspiracies about. And obviously we had a couple of discussions before this. But when we saw this come up earlier in the NFL season this year, we had a lot of discussions about this. And it kind of prompted us to get to the point where we thought, man, a podcast needs to be made about all the conspiracies in the NFL. The second reason is because this is probably the most famous NFL conspiracy of our time. Like, I don't know if you can think of anything more than this, but as far as I can tell, this has been covered by the most mainstream outlets. Yeah, social media love this. Exactly. I love it, too, because it's kind of true. I mean, we can get into that in a minute. So for those of you who don't know what the Super Bowl Logo Conspiracy is, let me just do a quick explanation for you. So for the past few Super Bowls, starting at Super Bowl 56 between the Bengals and the Rams, people are saying that the colors of the Super Bowl logo indicate who will inevitably play in the Super Bowl. In Super Bowl 56, we had the Bengals and the Rams play, and the logo was orange and yellow. The next year we had the Eagles play versus the Chiefs, and once again, it was a teal versus a red. And then this year, before Super Bowl 58 happened and this conspiracy came to light, people were saying that the purple and red logo indicated that it was going to be the Ravens versus the Niners. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And unfortunately, that didn't happen. Unfortunately, agreed. And I don't know if you've heard of the further folding of the theory, where some people are saying the team with the color on the bottom is going to be the winning team. So for viewers, obviously, there's a visual cue. I recommend looking up the Super Bowl Logo Conspiracy if you're not familiar with it, just so you understand exactly what we're talking about. There's a lot of graphics that will easily show you what's going on. So I don't know if you're familiar with the further fold. Yeah, yeah. The Rams won, the yellow was on the bottom, the Reds was on the bottom, and the Chiefs won, so we were saying the Ravens were going to win this year. Obviously, we do want to talk about the fact that, as J. Cole did mention, the Super Bowl 58 contenders did not align with the Twitter-made color scheme. That being said, this has not stopped conspiracy theorists from adjusting their ideas in order to make things fit the reality. We'll talk a little bit more about this later. So while most NFL conspiracies, particularly ones that are silly in nature, go unnoticed, this one was actually covered by many mainstream outlets. Yeah, I saw it all over Instagram and Twitter and when it was going on, especially when playoffs were coming around and these teams were doing really well. Absolutely, yeah. But it's one thing when Twitter and Instagram hops on a bandwagon, like especially Twitter these days. We've been talking about absolute... Everything, anything and everything. Especially when it comes to conspiracy in the NFL, they love to go crazy on that stuff. This one kind of broke out of the Twitter sphere, if you will. A lot of mainstream outlets are talking about it. You know, Sports Illustrated published an article called, Can We Talk About the Super Bowl Logo Color Scheme Conspiracy? CNN published, Why There's More Than Meets the Eye to the Colors of the Super Bowl Logo. No way CNN actually... No, you want to know something better about this fucking article by CNN? Yeah. The webpage for this article, at least when the search was conducted, which I want to say was about two weeks ago, contains a byline, shows who is by, where it was written, the date it was written. But there's no article. It's completely empty. It's just a headline and a byline. Thanks, CNN. Wow, such information. I know, right? But probably the best article I found was from CBS Sports, which was titled, Aaron Rodgers Puts Spotlight on Super Bowl Logo Conspiracy Theory. Wanted 2025 Logo to be quote unquote, Jet Green. Got that one? Of course, why not bring up Aaron Rodgers? Well, I mean, you got it, right? Yeah. NFL Conspiracy Show. Yeah. But a choice quote from the article, which was them quoting Rodgers' appearance on Pat McAfee's show. This is from Rodgers' mouth. If the Super Bowl is Baltimore and San Fran, then I'll tell you what Super Bowl 59 emblem better have Jet Green on it, Rodgers said. McAfee looked befuddled by the comment and Rodgers replied with some specific instruction. Just look at the colors, Rodgers said. Look at the colors. Look at the colors. So, you know, like I said earlier, you know, Twitter talking about it is one thing and the mainstream outlet talking about it is a whole nother. But Aaron Rodgers going on Pat McAfee and claiming that this is a real theory, that instills some confidence in the league. Oh, I'm sure it does. Three times MVP? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. He knows what he's talking about. Exactly. So trying to figure out where the origin of this conspiracy theory was is actually a little bit of a struggle. I'm not a hundred percent sure I'm right about this, but so full warning for the audience, this is some unconfirmed reporting. I did read an article that said the conspiracy was created by an account called at NFL underscore memes on Twitter. That being said, I tried to reach out to the creator of that account. I DMed him, I emailed him, and I unfortunately received no response. So as far as we know, this is the best source for who actually created the series. But I have no real information of whether this was truly him or not. And at NFL underscore memes, if you're listening now, I would love to chat. Let me know. But in terms of who actually created this, yeah, it could have been some Reddit troll, some 4chan troll, which was picked up by this Twitter account. But realistically, as far as we can tell, it was this guy. The Twitter account has one point four million followers. So not a small account. Exactly. The bio is we make fun of your favorite football team. Not affiliated with the NFL, in brackets, in case you're wondering. And it's dedicated to creating NFL memes, none of which are terribly noteworthy. You know, some of them are kind of silly and fun. I have some examples of content if you want to explain it to the audience here. So what's this first one we're looking at? So here's a tweet. April 22nd. First look at Zach Wilson's New Denver Broncos jersey. Oh, Mil Hunter. Oh, yeah. Classic. The new Zach Wilson Broncos jersey. His number and Mil Hunter instead of Wilson, which is, you know, some classic at NFL underscore memes content. We got, oh, March 31st. They posted that PS5 recently updated the cover for Need for Speed, covering all the young wide receivers of the past couple of years who have shown their their lack of ability to read road signs. Yes, yes, yes. And these posts had one point three and two point six million impressions respectively, and nine point two and thirty K likes, respectively. So, you know, this account isn't anything small. It's pretty relevant. Yeah. In this case, though, he was the one to create this. Yeah. Theory. It blew up like wildfire. Yeah, there you go. A lot of people follow this. Or like you said, he was just someone who found it and reposted it. He still gave it the exposure so that people started to look into it. Absolutely. So we think this is the origin. Once again, if you if you want to reach out to me and we can chat, we'd love to interview you. Honestly, yeah, 100 percent. Exactly. Respond to that email or that DM. But for now, this is the extent of the information I could give the audience. Like I said, this quickly became a pretty infamous theory. It's being spoken about by many large names in the NFL extended universe. But to the viewing public, this theory was like absolute catnip, the perfect conspiracy to blow up and catch the attention of a wider audience for a few reasons. So the following is a bit of editorializing from yours truly. But this is based on my experience studying conspiracies and looking at this theory. This is why I believe this is so popular. OK, so the first reason was because it's easy to interpret, right? The nature of the theory is such that many outcomes can take place. And the theory can still be true and make this in any which way they want. Yeah. I mean, you show red and blue. There's a ton of teams that are red. There's a ton of teams that are blue. Exactly. You know, like everyone wants their team to be the winner. If you see your team's color in there, maybe that spark of hope makes you want to believe a little bit more. Right. It's also this prediction was made pretty early during the playoffs. So there was a limited number of teams at the point. But, you know, the point still stands. Red could have been pretty much anyone. The purple was going to be the raven. Yeah, that was the big bust of the theory, I would say. But the alternate logo had like a blue and a red in it. You know, it could have been the Bills. It could have been the Chiefs. It could have been any. The second reason why I think this blew up so much is that it's easy to understand. The proof, if you will, is simple, unlike many other conspiracies. You look at these other conspiracies, you know, outside the realm of the NFL or even within the realm of the NFL, you know. It's a very easy conspiracy to understand. Very surface level. It's colors. You see it right there. Exactly. Like that graphic I showed you and maybe our viewers looked up earlier. It's pretty simple to understand. You can grasp it very easily. You don't need anyone to explain to you any finer details. Someone who knows nothing about the NFL can very quickly understand. Oh, I see the pattern here. Yeah. I'm like, you know, I don't know if you've heard some of the theories about like magnetic gloves and balls in the NFL. That's a little, you know, harder to get someone to believe or at least understand in any significant way. But also more on that in another episode. And the last reason is because and I think this is the most important. It's easy to make fun of. Oh, yeah. Right. Like conspiracy theories often become big when they're easy to talk about, easy to make fun of. And this one was obvious. It's sheer stupidity. You don't have to dig any further. Everyone knows if you have any sense that this was just complete bullshit. And unless you have these wider theories about the NFL, but you scripted and all of that, it's kind of a cool coincidence. But yeah, there's nothing beyond that, right? I don't know. You don't know. I don't know. I I think it takes it takes a deeper look and deeper looking into it because it was right. I mean, going five for six is not is not something to joke about. Who won five or six? The NFL logos, the Super Bowl logos. They two for three. No, they they they correctly predicted the first two, which gives them four teams. Plus, they got the forty niners for this year. So, I mean, and they also have the forty niners losing because they were the team on top. So not only did they have the forty niners being the losing team, they also correctly predicted five of the last six teams to make the Super Bowl. I don't know. It gives them pretty good odds that hopefully the next the next logo, they'll they'll be right. I think the point I think I think there's something to it. I take your point. But what about the Ravens? And we're just trying to fuck over Baltimore like that. Cheer me out. Maybe it's not 100 percent, but I still think that is. So who do you think is behind it? Is it is it Roger himself? Is it? No, that's it. I think I think this is a little too low for Roger's pay level. This is some some inside work from the NFL, though. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Personally, I think it's some some silliness, but anything is possible at this point in the conspiracy is when what I like to call the cycle of conspiracy begins. So let me explain this to the viewers a little bit so you can understand why I think this caught on so quickly, why this was like wildfire in the NFL community. So I made this little cycle of conspiracy. And let's see. I'll explain to the viewer. Try to imagine a a wheel or cycle in your mind where the first problem is new lore, meaning new lore is created in the conspiracy theory world. This being that these logos line up and that the Ravens and the 49ers were going to be the teams in the Super Bowl. Next, I would move on to the adoption of belief. So offensively, NFL underscore means creates this theory and then people start adopting it. You know, some people on the fringes kind of think it's funny. Some people on the fringes actually do believe it. And it starts popularizing. The next thing is something goes wrong where, oh, no, the Ravens lost. There's no more purple teams in the playoffs. What's going to happen? So what do they do? They adjust the lore. So that makes more sense. Oh, there's a new alternate logo out, guys. This one actually does line up with the team. And then we have new lore and we go back into the cycle of conspiracy. Does that make sense? That makes very, very good sense. So, yeah, I think that's a pretty good summation of why it became so popular. Yeah. Right. And it's just so easy to adjust and continue allowing to go through this cycle and just be a mill of conspiracy. So like I was saying, you know, there's a lot of adjustments as to why in order to justify this conspiracy theory, many solutions have been posited to help explain this theory falling apart. A lot of people have been saying, you know, oh, they put an alternate logo, which does line up with the team that ended up making it. But at the end of the day, this is a fan-made colorway logo. If this fan had any inside information, once again, reach out to them. Love to chat with you, man. You are something else. And the more popular theory is that, I don't know if you saw this parodied in a lot of TikToks and Twitter and Reels, was the script has to be changed because too many people were onto it. Did you see any of that? No. Oh, really? So the moment the Ravens got off, I started seeing like a lot of posts cropping up. About how so many people caught on to this theory became too popular. So the NFL had to change course. And that's why the Ravens ended up losing. It makes perfect sense. Yes. I mean, it makes sense in the conspiracy mind. But if they really, you know, planned so long for the Ravens to make it, and they just had to change on a dime like that, you'd think there'd be a little more discordancy within the NFL. That being said, anything's possible. But realistically, this is just a pretty convenient way to explain away why your theory didn't end up making sense and coming true. See a lot of similar things happening in the QAnon community and things like this, where the moment something goes wrong, it's pretty easy to adjust a couple of things to make sure that your cycle of conspiracy continues milling. Yeah. I mean, you go back like, what was it, five minutes in this podcast to watch me try to justify why it didn't work. And then he pulls out the second cycle of conspiracy. Yeah. But it is real. It's not a conspiracy. We can continue to disagree on that one. But you know what? Some friendly disagreement is what makes this country strong. Yeah. Being Canada. Thought we could do a little bit more baking on our own. Okay. That's something we like to do. Yeah. And clearly this is something that hits closer to home for you. So I thought that maybe me and you could start conspiracies for next year and talk about the Super Bowl 59 logo. Okay. So right now I got a picture pulled up. J. Cole, can you describe what this logo looks like? It's got a pretty cool design, actually. The Super Bowl 59 with green, it looks like, more on the bottom, and a red overtop. Yeah, and a purplish background. Yeah, purple background. Kind of has a little paisley design on the letters. That's the word. It's trying to be New Orleans themed, because that's where the Super Bowl's going to be played next year. Makes sense. So this Reddit post that I found talking about this, just to get this, you know, this conspiracy, this baking started for us, is from r slash Miami Dolphins on Reddit. And it says, official Super Bowl logo for next year. Am I delusional or could this be dolphins? The green looks pretty close to the Finns' aqua. Past logo colors haven't been always exact, and 49ers the red. Also, I don't see it, but an article said there's a shade of orange in there, too. So that's his theory for why it must be the Dolphins. I personally don't see a shade of orange, and I think to say that that green is anything like the Dolphins' aqua is a huge stretch, and I'm probably blind that I'm saying that. I mean, it doesn't look blue enough to be, but I could see the Dolphins making it to the Super Bowl low-key. I don't think that is Dolphins' green. See, that's Packers' yellow. Far before I see it as... You know what? I kind of see the green and yellow mixed in there. That's what I'm saying, right? That color to me looks like it'd be like a Packers' yellow, 49ers. See, the Packers' 49ers. So the green teams would be Dolphins, Jets, Philly, Green Bay. And the red team, I mean, there's lots of red teams. You can only see Green Bay and the Dolphins, right? Like, it's not Jets' green. Well, I mean, it's green. I mean, I don't know. I mean, how specific can we really get? I mean, if you're listening to u slash NBA Young Summer Ratio, he thinks the teal is close enough to the offset. I mean, maybe that's a Dolphins-Bucs Super Bowl or throw it out there. A Dolphins-Bucs Super Bowl? Yeah, why not? Battle of Florida! That's a Super Yo-Kim over there. Yeah, no, it's probably... I mean, if the red is NFC, it has to be 49ers, because the Cardinals aren't making it to the Super Bowl. And the Cardinals aren't even going to make it to the playoffs, and the Bucs aren't going to make it to the playoffs this year either. I should've put my voice higher like that. Dude runs like a toddler. So now that we've done our baking of the next year logo, our irresponsible baking of the next year logo, it's time to move on a little bit back to last year, or to this year's Super Bowl. And that's my biggest question about the Super Bowl logo conspiracy. Why? You know? What do you mean? Why? Why this theory that became so big? Why have people caught on to this? Why do people care about it at all? I just have so many questions as to why this was the popular theory, and why so many people resonated with it, either to fight for it or against it. I think the big fight for it was because when everyone saw that purple, they were like, finally, the Chiefs aren't going to be making it to the Super Bowl. We don't want— Sorry to Chiefs fans, but people wanted something a little different. And when they saw the purple, they were like, oh, maybe we get that this year. So do you think it had to do with, like, it was for a sense of hope, you know? The NFL fan base just desperately didn't want to see the Chiefs in the Super Bowl again. So the moment they saw the purple in there, they thought it could only be the Ravens. People were like, I want this to be true, so I'm going to trick myself into believing it's true. If you look at who people were cheering for when it came to the last Super Bowl, when it was 49ers and Chiefs, the only people cheering for the Chiefs were Chiefs fans and Taylor Swift fans. Like, the rest of everyone else who watches football wanted the 49ers to win just to have something different. Yeah, I think that's a fair argument, you know? Just the idea of hope and NFL fans wanting anything except a Chiefs dynasty and us glomming onto this because this was the only shred of hope that we had. Yeah, it's like, what? There's been two Super Bowls in the past five years where Patrick Mahomes didn't win? Like, people wanted something different. Then he was in four out of the five of them. Like, people wanted something a little different. I don't blame them. That's what I wanted. But either way, my biggest question as to why, the more and more I look at this, kind of the stupider it gets for me. And not to disparage your argument from earlier in this conversation, but just there's so many things about it that don't make sense to me. And just the more that you think about it, the more it falls apart. And let me dig into that. So many theories, most of the ones that we'll discuss on this show have a clear motive behind them. This is clearly lacking that unless you believe that this is part of the larger theory of the NFL being scripted. I understand how this is part of like a sort of predictive programming angle that some conspiracy theorists might take in terms of the NFL and its functioning. But unless you believe this larger theory about the NFL being scripted, the idea that the teams are being revealed to us like this in the Superbowl is a little bit out there. And like I was saying, the reality is if the NFL was really rigging the Superbowl, why would they leave away for people to find out about it? This is an issue I have with so many conspiracy theories I've studied. People saying, oh, the evil people in charge need to leave signs. It's part of the rules. But if these people are, they're clearly tyrants who are trying to take away something from us in some way. Why do they believe there's like these cosmic rules that they have to follow? It makes no sense. If the NFL is really trying to script the NFL, why would they give us any way to figure it out? Especially one this obvious, right? Yeah. I mean, I was also just thinking right now, they could probably also, they look at the standings and they look who's probably gonna do well. And they see like which teams and then they add those colors into the Superbowl logo. Because it's like, people know the Ravens are gonna play well. People know the 49ers are gonna play well. We throw those teams on the Superbowl logo because people know those are good teams, which makes them think. Absolutely. And I think that's actually a really good way to look at it. Because if this is some sort of practice in guerrilla marketing, where the NFL is trying to get us to speculate, trying to make them feel like they're rigging it. Because look at how many people are talking about this. Look at how much traction the NFL got for people talking about the Superbowl logo. Yeah, it's like... If this is some way that they're, you know, let's put the two most likely colors on there. Red and a blue. Because anyone could do a red and a blue or whatever it is. Maybe that's their way of gaining traction from us. It's not true. And they're not rigging it from their end. But it's a brilliant marketing strategy if that's what they're doing. I mean, it makes sense. I mean, have you looked at the logo for the NHL Stanley Cup playoffs this year? Or did you look at the World Series logo last year? No, they were just normal, boring logos. But no one's talking about, no one's looking at them. You got people talking about the Superbowl, people talking about the NFL, especially leading up to the games. And you said this post was at the beginning of the playoffs. That's right. So then gets people excited for the playoffs and their team. NFL means, are you working for the NFL? You say you're not affiliated, but are you? Yeah, come on. Just send me this bio. I really want this conversation. Please reach out to him. I know one of you guys knows him. Please, please get me in contact with at NFL underscore memes on Twitter. And like I was saying, I want to make my thoughts about this conspiracy pretty clear, which is, I've been talking a lot of shit about it, but I want to say something. This is not a dangerous belief to hold in and of itself, if you are someone who holds this belief. But I think the ramifications of it is what is important. Silly, harmless theories on its own, but it connects to the larger theory about how the NFL is scripted, which also on its own could be a pretty silly and harmless theory. But a lot of people connect as NFL scripted to even wider set of theories about how there's corruption within the American entertainment industry, which leads to how there's corruption within the mass media and there's corruption within the government. And yes, I think all of those things that I stated are absolutely true. But the idea that they're connected to the NFL logos is cockamamie. Oh, OK. Yeah. I mean, if we're going to go all the way to that level. Exactly. And like I said, I'm not saying that we shouldn't question authorities. As a matter of fact, I think it's pretty necessary for a functioning society. But the pervasiveness of theories like this only serve to infect society with more conspiracy and erodes our ability to absorb good information. It's a shifting of the Overton window where we were never talking about things this absurd a few years ago. But now that this is within the public consciousness, things like are the colors in the NFL logo predictive programming to the rest of the American public. These are conversation points that are actually on the table. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what's scary. It's not that things like this are dangerous in and of themselves. I think they're pretty funny and harmless. And I love talking about them. That's why we're here. But the effects that believing things like this can have on some people who maybe are more vulnerable to be pulled in by conspiracies. That's what I worry about. That's fair. Yeah. At the end of the day, these are conspiracies like these aren't these aren't real. Nothing's proven. These aren't facts. Like this is just two guys joking around about some NFL bullshit. Exactly. That could be real. But I mean, make your own decision based off of. Yeah, exactly. Before I close out, I just want to make one thing very clear. The person who runs at NFL underscore means who created this is absolutely not at fault. It is the fault of the mainstream media for having covered this so widely. And people like Aaron Rodgers and Pat McAfee for putting a bullhorn on something like this. This is absolutely not a small Twitter account's fault. And I don't want to put any blame on this person. They were truly just making content. And in my opinion, pretty good content. Yes, very good content. I follow them on Twitter. So in closing, TikTok and Twitter conspiracy theories should stay exactly where they're meant to be on TikTok and Twitter. Yeah. So before we actually close out this segment of the episode, I just want to talk about some of the wackier stuff I found while doing research for this episode. I found this one Reddit post. Do you want to describe this to the viewers? All right. It looks like CTV News. CTV Vancouver, which is a news station out of our home country, Canada, to be clear, not an American station where the NFL is solely based. On January 18, this is a full month before the Super Bowl, posted that Reba McEntire, Usher, and Post Malone are slated to perform at San Francisco 49ers and Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl matchup on February 11th. Well, what did CTV News claim they know? They claim that this was just a editing error on the chyron. They did not meant to post this. But obviously, a lot of people started baking this immediately. Oh, of course. It seems that we've been predicting our naming in the Super Bowl. And now CTV Vancouver is telling us so it must be true. Of course. So I saw a couple of things. One comment that someone left on it that I thought was worth pointing out, something I mentioned earlier, is that from remote underscore false 9317, I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but this news station is Canadian. I'm going to take a wild guess. They don't follow American football as much as Americans do. So they saw the two teams that are highly projected to make the bowl and use that. Well, I don't agree with his reasoning behind why they screwed up the chyron editing. I do agree with the fact that this is a Canadian station. And as a Canadian, I can confirm they will not be talking about American football nearly as much, especially on a station like CTV, where the main use of it is to get your weather forecast. Yes, that is very true. I think it's kind of crazy that someone who works at CTV Vancouver definitely follows NFL memes, knew this trend was going around and had just had to fill something in and just filled it in as a joke, like they were going to delete the anchor. Like they just filled it in because like, why not? And then it actually got posted, like actually went on air live. And then they lost their job. Well, I mean... The lonely intern is just letting it be a joke. Hopefully they didn't lose their job, but they definitely might have gotten in a little bit of trouble. Yeah, probably. Another Reddit user on this thread by the name of u slash Skywalk910 said something I found pretty interesting, which is, my theory is this is 100% about betting. They want people to bet on these two teams so people would hammer the odds on the underdogs. NFL isn't scripted, pulling for you guys today. Edit, just to elaborate, my guess is there are some degenerate gambler out there who got a hold of the prompter and made this change or someone just sucks at their job. So I think the idea that this is a theory created by people who are trying to hammer the under, I think that's kind of interesting. Yeah, right? Yeah, because I mean, on January 18th, you see that you place bets. Baltimore is going to have pretty good odds to win the Super Bowl. Like, well, I mean, like pretty good odds for the better. Like, they'll be extreme. Like same with the 49ers because there's still so many teams in the playoffs. So you get these people to bet their money on the 49ers and the Ravens. And then ultimately, it's the Chiefs that win anyways. So the question is, was it AstroTurf by like DraftKings? Were they were they trying to get us all to bet on the Ravens just so they can steal our money? SanDuel pays for CTV Vancouver. Yeah. Another Reddit post I found that I thought was a little wacky was this person r slash distractible named u slash blueberry batter who posted this titled Superb Owl Conspiracy. It's quite possible that the logo color elements are chosen due to algorithms You can't tell me that a multi-billion dollar entity of the NFL doesn't have in their employ some programming geniuses who have written some algorithms that predict the most likely outcome for who will be the last two teams standing. Feed a program as much information on plays over time across all teams, you'll get a statistically high outcome that X and Y will be the contenders. Conspiracy adjacent, but not like dot dot dot scripted. So what do you think about that? I mean, I said that basically earlier in the podcast. You did? Yeah, this guy stole my idea. But what do you think of the idea that they're using AI to predict who is going to be doing it? I agree, you know, what we discussed earlier, what you brought up earlier. Marketing teams do this. I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't think they need a computer and an algorithm to do this. I think they just ask a guy who knows a lot about football and go, hey, who do you think the AFC champion is going to be? Hey, who do you think the NFC championship is going to be? OK, now throw those colors on a logo. Like, I feel like I feel like it is that simple. So maybe you might agree with our boy you slash scrunge 1576 over here who commented on this post. I think the real answer here is simply this. At the beginning of each playoff season, they make several different graphic designs with all the variations based on who may be going to the Super Bowl. When the final two are announced, they know which one which one to use and ditch the rest. This year, one got accidentally released. Things are always so much more simple than people make them out to be. I don't think anything got accidentally released. I also I also think why would they bother making that many logos just to funnel through? They also released the logo at the beginning of the playoffs, not at the end. Yeah, so that, you know, I guess you're right. This is a little bit of a dud. Sorry, sorry, scrunge. We're trying our best on here. But that is all I have to speak about about the Super Bowl logo conspiracy. Is there anything else you have to say? I would like to say that I came into this podcast believing that the Super Bowl logo conspiracy might have some backing to it. But now I just think it's some dude who might know a lot about the NFL, who's also a graphic designer for the NFL, unfortunately. Yeah, I think that might be a conclusion that we can agree upon. Is there is anything nefarious going on here? It's just some guerrilla marketing on the part of the NFL. Exactly. So that is it for the main segment of the podcast. Now I'm going to throw it off to Jake Hold. Welcome listeners to my segment of the podcast, where I delve deep into the bizarre and unexplained occurrences that make you question the reality that is the NFL. I've got some mind bending stories and stats that will have you reaching for your tinfoil hat in no time. All right. So for the first one, I want to talk to you about the 2023 49ers. OK, OK. Because they were they were a cursed team, as in they cursed other teams, not that they themselves were cursed. Like this most recent, like the Super Bowl 49ers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They they cursed teams. OK. OK. So every time a team beats the 49ers or at least beat them during the regular season, their quarterback suffered a season ending injury. OK, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. It only happened when the 49ers scored exactly 17 points in their loss. OK, so how many times did this happen? It happened three times. OK, so tell me the occurrence. So the first time happened week six, October 15th. 49ers face off against the Sean Watson and the Cleveland Browns. OK, sure. Yeah, nail biter game. Final score, 19 to 17 Browns. OK. Exactly one month later, on November 15th, the Browns announced that Sean Watson will be sidelined with a season ending shoulder injury. Yeah, I recall, of course. Yeah. Next week, October 23rd, week seven. Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings face off against the 49ers. The 49ers lose again with a final score of 22 to 17. The very next week, Kirk Cousins goes down with a torn Achilles. No way. OK, so once is just a thing. Yeah. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is a pattern. Sure. Now to the third time, October 29th, the very next week. So this happened three weeks in a row. Week eight, Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals face off against the 49ers. Destroy them, 31 to 17. Three weeks later, Joe Burrow tears a ligament in his wrist. Yeah, I know. That's pretty wild. You think it's, uh, it's Roger getting up to some, uh, some hygiene? So I actually do, because it almost happened a fourth time. Did they lose by 17 again? OK, so we're going to go all the way to week 16. OK, December 25th, 49ers face off against the Baltimore Ravens. Bizarre twist at the very beginning of the game. Lamar Jackson's in his own end zone and the referee trips him, resulting in a 49er safety. Final score, Ravens win, 33 to 19. Did the ref know about this and purposely do it to save Lamar Jackson because of his end of season tear that resulted in an MVP season? Were they trying to save the MVP season of Lamar Jackson? Well, I don't know. I have a few issues with this. Don't get me wrong, but, uh, you think it was the 49ers going after their competition, just pissed off at the numerology of it all? I don't know. I, I don't, I, I think it's, I think it's a curse. I think. You think it's a curse? Yes. Did this happen at all in the previous seasons? Or is this just the 2023 Niners brought purty after, after a competition? No, this is, this is the 2023 49ers just trying to get rid of their competition. This is awesome. Good for that ref, save, save Lamar Jackson. Yeah. Lamar Jackson saved by a ref. No, that's a, that's a wild tidbit you found there. Yeah. Crazy. All right. Ridiculous. That's a good one. I like that. Yeah. All right. Thank you. Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Appreciate that. Yeah. Thank you for listening to this week's episode. You can find us on Twitter slash X at SB conspiracies. You can also reach us by email using SB conspiracies at gmail.com. A special thanks to Blaze for the music. 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