The conversation explores the division among men today, with some embracing feminism and others holding onto traditional masculinity. The speaker discusses how men are attacked and ridiculed for expressing their emotions, and how false accusations against men are often believed without evidence. The conversation also touches on the importance of men's mental health and the need for men to seek therapy. The speaker concludes by expressing frustration with the current state of feminism and its impact on men's lives.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Just in general, based on what you learned from the media, take it all. My thoughts on men is that we're very divided. Right now we're very... Either we're going to the feminist route or we're going to the more... Trying to push the masculine route. What do you mean, we're going to the feminine route? Well, a lot I've seen of men have been really getting into more... More makeup, dressing in more feminine clothes. I remember a coworker was talking about how in Brazil, a lot of men are trying to go to the trans side.
Like, they're trying to become drag queens. I'm like, is it because of how the thing is now? Like, they're trying to be more accepting? And then on the other side, they're trying to push more of the, you know, fuck all that, fuck all... You know what I mean? Like, more... You gotta be the man's man back in the times, you know? It's crazy that you mention that back in the times, that many would consider that masculinity.
Well, now it's considered toxic masculinity. Apparently masculinity isn't a thing anymore. It can only be toxic. There was this article I see a whole bunch on TikTok, I don't know, you might have seen it too. Where it's a sort of a letter towards men. It says, dear men, stop working out. And how physical fitness is creating a cycle of toxic masculinity that, as they say, must be eradicated. Which is an article I found on OnlyFeminist.com. It's really, well, to me it's just attacking men.
And one of the few things that they can do, which is work out, we can't even do that in peace anymore. It's crazy that you're saying that men are going to a more feminist side. Because here it's saying the men that choose to be men, choose to be strong and grow strong, to feel more confident in themselves. Are seen as people that have control issues, anger issues, and appear to be more violent. In your personal opinion, well, to start off, do you go to the gym? I'm starting to go to the gym more, yes.
I would assume that you see all different sorts of shapes and sizes of men at the gym, right? Absolutely, yes. Do you see a difference between smaller or bigger men? How do they conduct themselves? Well, it depends on the size, it depends on the person. I've seen small men, you know, try to talk all big, like, hey, this is my gym, this is my shit, all that crap. I've also seen big men, you know, very kind, very humble, you know, but it all depends on the person.
I don't really see, you know, is it because they're big or they're small. Why do you think that is? I mean, as soon as you said it, the first thing that came to mind was dogs. You know how chihuahuas and, I don't know, German shepherds, most people know chihuahuas for being crazy. You go up to them, they start barking, like, insanely, while most German shepherds, they are calm and controlled. Well, when out and about, unless they're, of course, protecting something such as a car dump or something like that.
Well, yes, of course, because you're smaller, you have to show a little more dominance. Because, you know, people don't appear, you know, don't show, you know, see you as a threat, but as a big person, I guess, you don't really need to be a threat because they're a big person. Like, me, myself, I'm a pretty big, average person, and people come up to me now and say, you know, they're scared to talk to me because of, like, I guess my face or just how big I was.
So, you know, I kind of see how the dog situation or the chihuahua has to be more loud and the big one doesn't have to be loud because he's very scary in some way. Uh-huh. So do you think that in the act of trying to, I guess, assert your dominance as a, well, not you personally, but any small man that tries to assert their dominance, wouldn't they come off and appear more dangerous than a much bigger and much more controlled person? Uh, yes, because, um, as a more controlled person, I really fear, like, they're really, they're just calm, they're chill, they're mannered, and I think you really need to be scared of that calm person when they, you know, release that secret anger, you know? Like, you know, I think there's, of course, anger is calm people.
Like, I've seen a lot of calm people go crazy angry when, you know, they can't take anymore. And it's, um, I've seen very tough guys, very, very, you know, how do you say, to really, you know, fight, you know, like, ready to go at it, like, you know, that's, like, their main goal was to really start something. And now do you think that because women, well, not women, but feminists, radical feminists that seem to be attacking men, since they're putting their views and beliefs onto men and making them believe that they shouldn't go and work out, they shouldn't become strong, do you think that might have an opposite effect of making them more vulnerable to their emotions, more likely to snap, as you said? I would say yes.
I think that these feminists really try to push a lot of their agenda on them just because they got hurt by a man that was, like, quote, unquote, toxic. And I've seen a lot, like, you know, you see on TikTok of girls talking about these toxic men, and then they come out with the truth, and the girl still protecting the girl even though she was accused, he literally had a receipt, like, he showed, like, her cheating on him multiple times, saying all this shit, and the feminists were still backing her up even though they were proving wrong.
And I even saw today recently of how they had a debate with a feminist, these feminists and these men, you know, protecting the man's gender, and he came with all facts, everything, he had everything, and they were laughing at him because he was proving all their things wrong, and they knew this was a debate, they knew that they had to come with information, but they didn't go with information, they only talked with their feelings. And he even asked for one example, and none of them could come with an example.
Yeah, I think I saw that, that was on Insider on YouTube, that was the interview on YouTube, right? And I like the fact that you mentioned a specific case, because that reminds me, that goes back to the Amber Heard, or Amber Turd trial, that we had, that was a big thing not so long ago, which had a paramount amount of evidence against Amber, proving that she was abusive towards Johnny Depp, and nobody believed that, which shows a lot about the society that we live in today.
A woman can say that a man did this, that, this, it doesn't matter, but the guy will always be guilty until proven innocent, which, it shouldn't be that way. And even if the man results in being innocent, his life is sustained and ruined forever. It's so true, like, it's crazy how now men have their lives ruined by just a woman, you know, some woman saying such stuff. There's a lot of victims, actually, women that go through a lot of, you know, R-word or sexual assault, it's very, you know, it's true, but then like these women come in and say, oh, this guy did this and all that, and they ruin it for them.
Like, this guy, he was going to Stanford, like, he lived at Stanford. This woman, you know, pushed herself on him, they had, you know, sex, you know, and then later on, she tells the media that this guy raped her, like, you know, literally, literally, he got denied from Stanford, they took away his tenure, I mean, not just tenure, his scholarship, everything, and then when he had proof, even the roommate of hers came out and said, you know, you know, he didn't do anything, they just had a hookup and that's it, but she wanted to ruin, you know, that woman just wanted to ruin his life, and he didn't get Stanford back, he didn't get his scholarship back, and his life was ruined, like, no one supported him, and like you said, on the Amber Heard and, like, what's her name, Johnny Depp trial, a lot of, you know, a lot of girls, if you saw the TikTok, there's some people that did interviews about, you know, actually women, like, what do you think of her, like, even after, you know, there was evidence and all that, people were like, oh, no, he's gonna be fine, you know, he's rich, like, but it's just crazy, like, no sympathy, no nothing, didn't care, like, if that was a woman, like, people would be coming out, fuck that guy, fuck, you know, she deserves the world, all that crap, and, like, he just, you know, she just shrugged it off, him, his abuse and all that crap he went through, I was like, oh, it was nothing, because he's a guy and he's rich, and, like, his career was ruined, like, he got denied from all projects, like, people are just now trying to, like, get him back into some roles, maybe, maybe, and, like, his life was ruined for five years, like, you can't think about that, like, crazy, like, I think they're trying to think about his kids, too, like, that's crazy, like, not even see his kids, I don't know.
Uh-huh, I'm over here trying to find it, but I do remember something that you, I do remember something that you did mention about, there was another case, not only the Stanford one, where a kid, I believe he was 13 or 14, something along those lines, maybe 16, during the school year, he got, he had apparently rape allegations or sexual assault. Oh, yeah, yeah, and a girl, I mean, who came in as a pregnant. Uh-huh, they, they had, they had said that this kid did stuff to them or tried to do stuff to them and they didn't feel comfortable with it, he got kicked out of school, his parents berated him upon it, they called him all these names, this and that, he received so much internet hate, and then at the end of all of it, it was during the summer, I believe, that they said, they came out and confessed that it was all a lie that they made up, simply because he, they didn't like, they didn't like him as a person, for whatever reason, but that just goes to show how little men, men are cared for or even protected, because at the moment a woman says something, they believe it's true, and by they, I mean anyone in authority.
Now, moving on a little bit towards the, the men's mental health, there was a, what do you call it, an article from National Institute of Mental Health, which says that even though mental illness affect both men and women, the prevalence of mental illnesses in men is often lower than in women. Men with mental illnesses are also less likely to have received mental health treatment than women in the past year, and this article was in, sorry, 2000, the year 2020, which as, you know, we both know, as everyone listening knows, this was a major year since COVID was hitting.
Do you think that men should get therapy for stuff, or do you think that they should just try to pass through in life? Me, personally, I feel that men have a responsibility to care and provide for those around them, and they, at some point in time, they should receive some sort of therapy, but at the same time, it is the treatment and the rigorous daily activities that they go through that build a fortified mind and strong mentality, which, you know, they're often ridiculed for their beliefs, but it is something that men must push through, but, you know, every so often, it is encouraged for men to seek help and to, you know, be, just to let off a little bit, but it's in those specific cases that men are ridiculed.
Men are always asked to, you know, share their emotions, share how they feel, just become exposed, but it's in those moments of opening up, that's when women tend to attack men and use whatever they can from those moments from the past to bring into the future and use it as a weapon against men. Do you think it's fair when a woman opens up, that it's fair that everyone comforts her and goes, oh, you know, I'm so sorry about all this crap? When a man opens up, he's seen as weak.
They make fun of him. They ridicule him because he came out, and they see him as someone that they're not interested in anymore because he comes out with truth and, like, tries to open up. Because I experienced, one of myself, that even with my mother, like, the person that made me, anytime I wanted to open up or, let's say, I had a, like, those breakdowns. At one time, I had a mental breakdown. I was really tired.
It was something really bad that happened to me, and it sucked. And even to this day, like, they make fun of me, like, laugh about it. Like, if my sister had a mental breakdown, they won't be making fun of it. They won't be telling me to make fun of it. And the arguments, I ask them, like, why can't I do, like, why can't I at least have, like, why can't I say this or say, why can't I, you know, she did this to me, why can't, it's because I'm a man.
It's because I can't do that. They can do that. It's fine for them. But when I do, you know, show emotion, do this, or want to do something better for myself, I can't because I am not, let's say, because I'm a man. You know, I have to toughen up, go through it, you know. Uh-huh. I get what you're coming from. So men are often held to a standard, but I've seen that. I've seen that in some podcasts that I've listened to myself, such as Fresh and Fit.
Many women hold men to a standard, but the moment men hold women to a standard, everything flips. Women start going crazy, saying that we can't do that, this and that, whatever. But, yeah, I totally understand you. Me, myself, I've had a breakdown once that was completely, something related to this. You know, I had a girlfriend. It was a very toxic relationship. I didn't realize that at the time. I was, as what men call, a simp. I was a hardcore simp.
I did everything for this girl. And then one day, you know, she was like, yeah, this is too much for me, and just left like that with no regard for my emotions. And, yeah, she ended up creating a false narrative about how bad I was, about all the mistakes I had done, making her seem like an angel and making me seem, you know, like the devil. And as a result, I lost her. I lost my friends.
And at the time, it was COVID, so, and I was dorming. So it was a very, it was a very, you know, it was a very lonesome experience. I was isolated from everyone and everything. I didn't have no one or nothing to talk to. And then finally one day, I just broke. But as I'm saying, it is these moments of hardship that really help build a man. After that breaking, I realized what I needed to do and who I really was.
Yeah, it was, it's tough, but men are often held to a standard and we have to follow this. If not, we are seen as not being capable of being good providers. I get what you're saying. And I'm sorry you went through that, but I was already with it. And it's just like crazy. Like, just to get it right. We aren't necessarily against feminism. We're just against how you're just using feminism as your own agenda. It's like using religion for your own agenda.
Yeah. Like, just because you don't like a man that he broke your heart, that you're going to use the R word scenario just because you want him to feel, you know, pain the way you want him to feel pain. But that's not true. And just to be clear, I'm searching up the Oxford Dictionary definition of feminism and it is, well it's a noun, the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.
I will be the first one to say that women have been discriminated against and put down and oppressed against for a long, long time. But then we have the most recent form of feminism, which is claiming to fight for equality for women, when in reality it doesn't look like that at all. It is looking to oppress men. When we see, there are many cases, like I said, most men, when a woman declares something against a man, it is often guilty and is proven innocent.
Or even when they're going through a divorce, most men tend to lose 50% of everything. So everything a man has built for, they lose it, they lose their kids, the house, everything. And in a way they seem stained. While as women, they are often empowered to do that very thing. To find a wealthy man, get married, and then take everything that he has. Well not everything, but you know, 50%. Even when they have a kid that's even more money, like they give the kid the child support, and they can just put an amount and the court literally has to give it to him, he has to pay it.
And when he tries to deduct it, he has to have a good reason, he has to have receipts and everything, and all she has to say is, oh no, I don't believe him, he's false. But anyway, that will conclude our episode for today of The War on Men, Men's Mental Health. Hopefully we got a couple of talking points in and got the crowd interested, you know, our audience interested in coming into our next episode. This has been your host, Giovanni Martinez, aka, It's a Cat, and our guest speaker, Carlos, also known as...
Miranda. What? Carlos Miranda, also known as Lido King. Stay tuned in for our second episode of our podcast. Hopefully this episode was able to open your eyes just a little bit further into the war that men are facing now. It's our modern war. Yeah. Yeah. Hope you guys enjoyed, and I will see you in the next episode. Peace out. Peace.
