A few of our firsts
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The main ideas from this information are: - The podcast hosts discuss their first memories. - They also talk about the first app they go to in the morning and their morning routines. - They share their experiences of losing their virginity, including the location and age at the time. - One of them mentions disappointing their mother. - The conversation is casual and humorous. Hello and welcome to week 6 of our podcast. This week we're going to be talking about firsts, so like first relationships, first jobs, friendships. So I'm going to start off by asking you Holly, what was your first memory? Okay, so I remember my nan, which is my dad's mum, she died in 1990. I don't have a lot of memories about her, so I think this might have been my first memory. We were at her house in the garden and I remember her being quite proud of her flowers and they were like daffodils and tulips and I know that daffodils and tulips are beautiful flowers, even if they are quite simple, but like looking back at it, I think to myself, she was telling me off, don't pick my flowers. And I'm thinking they were just daffodils and tulips, do you know what I mean? But yeah, I remember that as being my first memory. And also this lad called Dan, picking off the fluffy nose off my backpack at play school. I reckon I must have been about the same age. So either one of them. Yeah, I know. And apparently he used to call me Holly the Dolly. So if I see him at the pub, the mum goes, look, there's Dan and I go, hello, and he goes, Holly the Dolly. And I'm like, cringe. You're like, remember you picked the nose off my backpack? Yeah. And apparently the actual name of the backpack was Marmaduke. And I was like, yeah, I would have picked a better name than that. What was it like a dog? Was it like? I don't know if it was like a lion or a cat. Oh, right. Yeah. But yeah, that was my first memory. What about you, Jill? My first memory is, and I know I must have been about four, because we lived in this house and I moved away from this house when I was five. So I must have been about four, maybe coming up in five. And it was, the only thing I remember was this wee boy that lived up the stairs. And I feel like I've told this story before. I don't know if it was on here. But it was this wee boy who lived up the stairs and he had really bad eczema on his hands. And I remember nobody wanted to touch him. And me and him were in the close and he asked me to hold his hand. And I just remember I felt really bad for him and I held his hand and we're just standing in the close holding hands. And that's my memory. I'm so nice, aren't I? Yeah, that's actually adorable. No, I've always had that memory. And I don't even, I don't remember who he is, or like, if I would know that I would go look for him. Like, I'm looking for the wee boy that lived in such and such a street with this and the bad eczema. Like, I wouldn't go looking for him, but I don't know who it was. So blushing. What about you, Emma? I think the first memory I've got, no one really believes me when I say this, but I don't know how old I would have been. I can't work out the maths. But my dad took me to hospital to visit my mum when my little brother was born. And I just remember like holding his hand and skipping around a flower bed to get into hospital. I can't, but he's, I'm sure he's only two years younger than me. So I can't have been very old. But it's like, it's stuck in my memory for like my whole life. Just this like little skipping around the flower bed thing, which is quite sweet. I was excited to see my mum, I was excited to meet my little brother. That, I think. Yeah, that's such nice memories, isn't it? Because it's not something purely creepy or random. It's just, it's really nice memories. Yeah, yeah. Don't remember anything about my little brother being born though, luckily. He was younger. But yeah, that's, that's a really, it's a nice memory to remember. Definitely. Isn't it strange that both of us, our first memory is about flowers? Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. The flowers in the flower bed. And yeah, I didn't even think of that. Yeah. They're bright and bright and pretty looking, aren't they? Probably why it stands out so much. Yeah. So I have a list. Of course. On the screen. I'm just going to work through them. So I'll start off with the first one. What is the first app that you go to in the morning, when you get up? And should I answer this first? Yeah, I will. I tend to go on Insight Timer or Notion, because I like to know what I've got going on for the day. So for those people that don't know what Notion is, it's a really good like planning app, like note taking, all sorts. Definitely need it on your phone. And Insight Timer is like meditation or just a little bit of positivity, really. So those are mine. I do like to try to stay off my phone first thing in the morning. But when you wake up with your next door neighbour's dog barking at like seven, seven out of seven, and you think, I can't get back to sleep now, I reach for my phone. So that's mine. Em, what about you? It's usually my music app or my podcast app, to be honest, or my camera app if my twins have got into my bed. It's like we take a picture together sometimes, but not very often. I'm normally too half asleep to be able to do that. But yeah, normally it's my music app, my podcast app, or my audio book app as well. Audible, I normally can go into that as well, just depending on like what I'm doing that day. I'd say music app is probably the most common. They've got like a early morning playlist that I've got so I can play that to like get me going for the day. Nice. What kind of songs are on your playlist to start your day? I've got Power by Little Mix on there. That's a good one. Yeah. The Beyonce one, Who Run The World, that one. Oh, what's his name? Rick Hasley, got him on there. It's just like, Never Gonna Give You Up. Yeah, that one. It's just like some positive songs and like some feel good like songs that get me in the mood to be positive for the day. Yeah, that sort of thing that's on there. Yeah, yeah. So that's normally what I go to. I like that playlist in the morning. What about you, Jo? What's your kind of first go-to in the morning for the apps? Literally just wake up with my alarm and I'll spend five minutes because I feel as if I can't just get up and jump up and get ready. I need to look at something. I need to make my brain function a wee bit. So I just go straight onto Facebook. I'm so fucking basic. I go to Facebook for five minutes and I'll just scroll and see what shite people are saying and then I just jump up and get the kids ready. I'll put Spotify on when I'm getting ready, put a wee playlist on, get myself in the mood. The new Spotify, I don't know how this appears. Is this DJ? Yeah. So I just play that sometimes and I can't be bothered looking. Sometimes I'll dive into a wee daily mix to see what that's like. Then sometimes I like, you know what, surprise my DJ and I'll just play him and let him entertain me for the morning. Yeah. Do you know, I don't know where it's to, but maybe it's on TikTok where they go, oh, don't, don't look at your phone for the first hour because it will make you more productive if you don't. But I think that just everybody's different, aren't they? Yeah. If it's going to help you, then why not? If I went on social media for five minutes, I wouldn't be off in five minutes. I'd be on it for the next half an hour, which is the only reason I don't go on it because I know that I just wouldn't get off it again for ages. I just scroll aimlessly through TikTok or Instagram or Facebook and I'm like, yeah, that's half an hour of my life gone. But yeah, I think that's why I go on Facebook because I find Facebook quite boring. But if it's like Instagram, I don't have TikTok, but if I was to go on Instagram, I feel as if I'd be there for I don't know how long just watching videos. But because it is Facebook and it's my Facebook now is just full of ads. It's ridiculous. It's just like sheen or whatever. I'm like, I bore myself. I literally I know that I go on it because it's boring. So I just go on five minutes bored myself and then that's me jump up ready for the day. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, it is a bit more dull isn't it than the others. That's nothing to do with any of my friends. Yeah, it's all the other crap. All my friends are fucking top tier, right? It's just the ads. Facebook's just full of ads. It is. Okay, let's fill the barrel. Your first actual experience. I'm a virgin. You're not a virgin. I'm Jill the virgin at 40 something. Emma, you can go first. I only remember mine. It was bloody awful. I'd be surprised if anybody's was fucking air-shattering to be honest. That's very true. I mean, I don't really remember it. I just remember I just remember it being happening and then it stopped. I remember who it was with and I remember where I was and stuff. So I remember those bits. But generally, it was just a bit... If I ever had sex like that again, I think I would cry. Give it up. I'm not doing this again. Where were you? It was just at my house where I lived with my mum and dad. Just at home in my bedroom. I don't think anyone was there. You don't think? No, of course they wouldn't have been there. Just thinking, I'm not sure they weren't there. But no, they wouldn't have been there. Otherwise, why would I be doing it? Because my mum and dad and my younger brothers all lived in the same house as me. Yeah, so no one else was there. It was just us and that's all I can remember really. Can you remember how old you were? Either 16 or 17. I want to say 17. I want to say 17 as well, but I wasn't. I wasn't either. What was your age then, Holly? 15. What about you, Jess? I was 14. I say 15. I think I'm 14, but I think I was 15. My mum was so disappointed in me. Did you tell her? I had to tell her. Well, right, so let's talk about it. Yeah. So my mum had quite a few jobs, about two or three, just to keep a roof over our head. And anyway, when I got back from school, she would be at work till about seven and my dad would be back about six. My brother was out because he was, I don't know, what would he have been? Like 16, 17. And I was going out of this lad, I'm just going to say his first initial was Jay. He wasn't like a stud or anything like that. But he was like somebody that I said, yeah, I'll go out with you. And at school, I had these friends that were, they weren't very nice because they were the ones that beat me up at the end of school. Anyway, they were putting pressure on me. They said, we've had sex, you've got to have sex. Otherwise, you can't be in our group. And because I was such a gullible girl, I said to Jay, I said, do you want to come around mine after school? Nobody's going to be in. So he came around and I put on J-Lo, waiting for tonight, even though it was the afternoon. And I did, I did put on a condom on him, but he wasn't very big. So it slid off. And, and yeah, my period was late. So I was, I was like saying to my mom, mom, my period's not, not here yet. And she said, well, don't worry about it. And I said, no, I am. And she said, she said, you're not pregnant. So you don't need to worry. I said, well, I don't know if I am. Oh God. And I was like, and there is, it's like the word you never want to hear from a parent, especially your mom. I'm so disappointed in you. But you know what, at least you could speak to her about it. So you were sold, you had that relationship that you felt comfortable, you could go to her. Yeah, obviously you had to face the disappointment. Yes, but then until my period come on, I kept on like thinking, thinking, oh no, I think that like, I feel sick. And mum had this medical book, because obviously we didn't have the internet back then, like we do now. And she had this book and it said pregnancy and, and I had to look at what the pregnancy said. So then you get in your head. Yeah. I think I'm pregnant. And then on the period come on, I was like, I feel so wrong. Yeah. Wow. That's, that's a roughing first experience. Yes. I mean, you remember a lot more about it than I remember mine. Then what about you Jo? So yes, I was 14 and it was this guy, everybody fancied him. And I just, everybody, all my pals kind of had boyfriends and stuff. I still hadn't kissed anybody yet. I'd never had a boyfriend. And this guy said that he would kiss me. That whole duet that my pal, like my pal asked if he wanted to kiss me, he said, aye. And it was like, they purely planned a day for it. It wasn't just, aye, let's meet up the night. It was like Thursday at like half past six, whatever. So it was this whole thing. So I had to wait like a couple of days to kiss him. So thinking about it now, I'm like, what was that? So we met up with him, kissed him, and it was the worst experience. Like the kiss was just the worst kiss I've ever had in my life. I couldn't even explain it. Like I could maybe show you, but I have no way I could explain it. It was so bad. So was it like a hug then? No, he just like, he just stood with his mouth open, like no moving or doing anything. I was like, what's happened? It was just so bad. And so then, so I think that was like the Thursday night. And then two nights later, we met, we kissed again. And then we were in the back of like one of the, like my pal's house. It was like closest, like a block of flats. And we never really spoke about it. He just took his bear gloss jacket off, put it on the ground. And I was like, right, so this is happening. And it was just so awkward, outside and somebody's back. And it was just, it was so bad. It was so awkward. And it was so cringe. I think, I think we kissed a couple of times after that, like a couple of nights later, and then just nothing after that. And I was like, pure heartbroken. But I, that was a bad experience. I mean, it's not the worst thing that's ever happened. But like, it's just such an awkward, bad first time. But I guess, sometimes people look up, they're gorgeous. And then it comes around to it, and they're not that good in bed, or anything like that. And you think, I don't know why everybody likes you. It was, it was a good looking guy. I was just about to ask Emma, but Emma sorted that one. Yeah, I already told you about mine. Do you want me to go on to the next question? No, I think we could just sit in silence for a wee bit longer and just contemplate what just happened. Okay. First celebrity crush? Emma? First celebrity crush? Well, it was probably Gareth Gates, to be honest. Like, properly liked him. Had pictures of him on my wall before I went emo. In fact, I'm looking at a picture right now. And we went to see him a few... It's still on your wall. Yeah. We went to see Joseph in the amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat in London. This was years ago. While we were there, I got a poster. My mum got it framed for me with the ticket underneath. And it's now just on the wall in my office. So I can see him from where I'm sat right now. I didn't have the heart to say to her, I don't really fancy him anymore, but thanks. But no, she got it framed for me with the little ticket on it. So it's quite a nice little memorabilia thing to have there. But yeah, he was definitely my first massive celebrity crush that I can remember anyway. Definitely him. What about you, Holly? I would say Chesney Hawks. I just liked his floppy hair. And I think that was the first song that I brought on cassette. So yeah, I'm trying to think if there was anybody else. I obviously said Michael Owen, like I had a poster of him. But I wouldn't say he was my first crush. He was just somebody there I idolised on the telly, support Liverpool. And yeah, I can't think of anyone else at the moment. But yeah, Ches, they're all about you too. I think the three handsome boys. I like Zach. Zach was nice. I couldn't say their names. I just knew that there were three of them. And when I was younger, I was like, oh, especially the one that looked more like a girl. So I'm trying to think of their names. Zach, Taylor, Taylor, Taylor was the one that looked like a girl. Zach was the drummer. And Dan, I can't think of the other one. The oldest one. So them and then obviously, I was obsessed with my so called life. So Jared Little. No, he's the next person I'll need a husband for. And I've told him that to his face. Yeah, I mean, he may faint me. He got so close to my face once, I nearly died. Oh, my God. Just a little bit closer. He didn't get close enough. I couldn't touch him. I was trying to. You didn't want to touch him? I wanted to. I was like, I just want to touch your face. But he was just slightly out of arm's reach. He was generally shy. I wasn't just walking past him and being weird. He came up to the crowd, and other people were touching his arm. And I was like, I just wanted to touch you. That was like when I went to see Blur, and David Albarn was in front of me. And like, people were all like reaching up. And I was like, fuck it, I'm going to do it. And I just reached up and touched his balls. I didn't even know what I was saying. I stroked Ricky Wilson from The Kaiser Chief. I stroked his leg once. Again, on a show. He was stood up right in front of me, and I was like, everyone else was grabbing him. I was like, I'm just going to go for it. And I just stroked his knee, put my arm down, and went, that was weird. Do we need to do a show on which celebrity have you stroked? Yeah, that'd be a couple. We've got special guests on. I was working as old as this poor Hollywood. I stroked his ego. Is that what you're calling it? Yeah. No, I'd made a calendar of him, and I took it when I went to see him in Bath. Me and my cousin had some VIP tickets, and I said to him, can you sign this? And he said, what is that? And I went, it's a calendar, because you didn't have one out this year. And he was flipping through them, and he was going, I remember that one, I said. And then he flipped to the next one. Come on, another one. I like that one. And then he said, hang on a moment. And he got one of his people to go and get the new calendar that was out. And he said, Hugo, I didn't even have to pay for it. I thought, oh, lucky me. Well, that's so nice. He must have thought, oh, you've went to all that trouble to make your own calendar of him. That's sweet. Yeah. Yeah. But he's still really lovely. People say that when you meet your idols, or somebody that you idolise, or that you think is a bit of alright, that you're going to meet them, and there'll be nothing like it. I thought that he was like, nicer than his, like, what he may put on for the show, like, to be Mr. Mean, at times. But he isn't. He is really lovely. Aww. So yeah. Mobile phones. That's a first. And the oldest person here is Jill. Alright. Every week, I'm just going to get slaughtered for being a fucking home girl. My first mobile phone was this. I don't even know what it was called. It was just like a Vodafone phone. And I remember it was, the colour was champagne. And it was £200. And I got it for my Christmas. Like, my mum got me and my brother one, he got a blue one, I got the champagne. And I remember, I absolutely loved this phone. And I was out, and it was like, it wasn't even that long after that I got the phone. And I met this guy. And like, we were just kind of hanging about. And he's like, my mum works in the hospital. Do you want to come up with me? Because I'm going to go and get money off her. And I was like, aye, okay. I went away up. And he's like, oh, can I borrow your phone? I'm going to phone her and see where she is, if she'll come out and meet us. And I gave him my phone. And he's like, oh, there's no reception here. I just need to walk around to this bit. And he fucking stole my phone off then. What? No way. He stole my phone. That's what I get for being a tramp, hanging out with people that I didn't know. Aye, that was my first phone. I had a pager before that. Can you actually believe that I had a pager? A beat deep one. Yeah, because you're that old. Aye. Like, my parents still laugh at that. They're like, you're the only person I knew that had a pager that wasn't a drug dealer. I was like, I know. And it would be, like, just my mum, like, paging me. Because I used to just, like, disappear for days on end. So my mum would just page me and she'd, like, call me or whatever. And my pals would be, like, sending me their number so that I could phone them. So, like, my mum, eventually, she got me, because she used to buy me the phone cards. I don't know if you remember that. Yeah. So is that the phone cards that you'd go into a phone book and then you'd put it in? Yeah, that I had one of those. So, like, you could get, like, £5, £10 or whatever. So if you never had money, you'd always get this phone card. So my mum used to get me them so I could always phone her. Because I don't know if you know, but I was a bit of a mental when I was younger. I'd just work off. So she used to get me these phone cards so that I always had a way to contact her. So it started off phone cards, then a pager, then mobile phones. I had a big brick. They're my cousin. So my cousins, I don't like to speak to them now, they're assholes. But my cousin Gary, he was, like, trying to sell me his phone for £5. Right. And when you don't have a lot of pocket money, etc. And I don't know, how old was I? I've been, like, 13. But anyway, I give him a fiver. And I don't even think the number started 07. It was something like 333 or something like that. And you couldn't even text, I don't think. You could just call and that was it. And it obviously had no pictures on it, no coloured screen. So when I say to my niece, Lottie, who's about 20. No, she's not 20. I'm, like, adding years on. She's 19. I'm, like, that we didn't have this, that, that. And she's thinking, Oh, my God. Yeah. And it's probably the same with you and Alex, because Alex is about the same age, isn't she? Yeah, she's 19. Yeah. So what we didn't have, or what we did have, I don't think that they'd be able to survive because they've been brought up with different things. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Because it's, like, the concept of just, and I realised this a few years ago, the concept of just going to somebody's door and chatting their door and asking if they're coming out to play. For kids, it's, like, what, you just go to their door and chat the door and see if they're coming out? Like, what if their mum answers? It's, like, well, hello? Is so-and-so coming out? Like, it's so strange. It's just, they wouldn't even do it. Even though sometimes, and Lola wanted to go and play with her wee pal, and I'm, like, on you go. Oh, she's coming out. And I was, like, well, do you go and chat the door and you ask? And the other week she went out and she went away and come back five minutes later. And she's, like, what is it? And she's, like, oh. I went, did you chat the door? And she went, no. And I went, what did you do? And she went, I just went round to see if she was, like, coming out. I went, coming out? How would you know that you're there? I was, like, go and chat the door. You just chat the door. Hi, is such-and-such coming out? Yes or no? Like, it's either they're not coming out or they're coming out. Like, there's nothing else there. So she's starting to get a wee bit mad. All right, okay. But before that, it was, like, can you phone and ask her mum? I just refused. I'm, like, nope. She won't know somebody's come out. You go and chat their door. Chat it. Just imagine us as adults, like, not gone to somebody's door and said, are you coming out to play? I do that at work, though. Like, we're young people. They probably hate it. I'm, like, do you want to come out and play? And they're, like, what? Like, do you want to go out and do something today? No? Yeah, great. Fuck off. Bringing that back. That routine we're bringing back, just chatting people's door and asking them if they're coming out to play. Yeah. Yeah. Done. Yeah. Emma, what brand did you have there? Were you in the Nokia era or? No, I was Nokia era. But just before I got my first Nokia, for about a year, I had a blue Motorola BT phone that was quite chunky. It had, like, an aerial on it. I had that for a bit, just because I started walking to school at quite a young age. Because where I lived when I was younger, you started at, like, big school in year five. Yeah, year five. So, like, yeah. What age was that? Probably eight. Nine or ten? Probably eight. So, mum and dad got me a phone just so I could, like, text them or ring them to let me know that I was on my way back or I just got to school and stuff. But that's literally all you could do for me. You could make a phone call and send a very... In fact, could you send a message? You must have been able to send a message on it. I can't remember. But then I bought the 3210 Nokia like that everyone had. Yeah, yeah. And just spent my whole life playing Snake. I never really did that. I just had a plain grey one. I never really changed the cupboards on it. I was really boring with my phone. But even now, like, as an adult, my phone cases, like, they're quite plain. I've just never been one to decorate my phone as much. I'm not really sure why. I remember spending my pocket money going down to Claire's Accessories and getting a phone case. It'd be really expensive now, probably about 12 quid. I just ordered one for my work phone. It's clear, you know what I mean, for like £6. So, yeah, I don't know. Things just like, when you look back, it's like a phone that we had and now we've got a car, whereas before it was literally a phone. Like, it was just a phone that you could, well, a mobile phone. But now it's like a mini computer, isn't it? Yeah, totally different. But we used to do things, because we didn't have, like, emojis and stuff. Do you remember when you used to make pictures and faces with, like, the punctuation marks? Like, the colon and the bracket. Or then you'd do, like, really elaborate ones where you'd have, like, loads of dashes and then, like, the arrow, they're called. And you'd do, like, multiple lines. We did stuff like that sometimes, like, make big rabbits on, I don't know, stuff like that. Now we don't have to, because we've got emojis to do that for us. I guess. I love how you get at it. Should we go with one more question? I think this is one of those subjects where you could just go on and on and on and on for hours. So let's leave it there and then we could maybe come back and do, like, a round two. Okay. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast episode. I hope you stayed awake the whole way through. For one of that fucking boring moment. No. And we'd love to know what you think. 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