EP 11 Relevant or Irrelevant Tigers

The hosts of the podcast talk about the Detroit Tigers baseball team. They discuss how the Tigers have been performing, saying that they are neither good nor bad, but they just won't go away. They also mention that they talk about football and the upcoming NFL and college football seasons. They apologize for the long break between episodes and assure the audience that they will continue with more episodes in the fall. They encourage listeners to sit back, enjoy the episode, and cheer for the Tigers. They then discuss the recent games of the Tigers against the A's and the Blue Jays, highlighting the ups and downs of the team's performance. They mention a no-hitter pitched by the Tigers against the Blue Jays, which was a rare and exciting event. Overall, they express frustration and hope for the Tigers' performance. Welcome back to episode 11 of the Gentleman's Agreement pod. I'm Dee and Jay is here and I think this episode is labeled Relevant or Irrelevant Tigers and tell us why. Yeah, so our boy Jake could not make it tonight. He's coaching a football seven-on-seven, so I'm stepping in for him. And the Tigers, yeah, we dive into this very interesting baseball team that just isn't good and they aren't bad and they just won't go away. So we talk about that. We dive into some football as the season is now only about six weeks away. We go into the NFL and college football and talk a little bit about that. So that's pretty much the majority of this episode. So yeah, we had a good time. I'm watching the Tigers still playing and we just made a crazy circus catch. So tune into the pod. We do have a good time, more relaxed vibes here. Sorry it's been so long between episodes, but we're busy in the summer. So we try to give the audience a couple episodes still periodically and we'll pick it back up in the fall. But with that said, sit back, grab a bite to eat, maybe a drink, and enjoy the episode. All right, first order of business. I think it's time to talk about Detroit, our Tigers. Tigers be hanging around. They're like an itch. They just won't go away. The worst itch. Some could say we are in a pennant chase. I am the optimist, so I will say that. It's as close as we've been in a pennant chase since the glory days. No, I know it's been a couple weeks since the Padre, but I think to do the Tigers justice, we need to paint the picture from last week. So, last week, right? Same area hanging around. We get the A's. Okay, we beat the A's, we can go beat the Blue Jays and the All-Star break on a high, right? Well, what happens? What do we do? We decide to lose the first two games of the series against the A's in pretty horrific fashion. The first game, it's been a little bit, but the first game, if I remember, we pitched Scooble. Wasn't it Scooble, the return? And Olsen. Yes, it was the return of Tarek Scooble, who was a stud last year, our best pitcher, been injured for a while, and it was all the hype to bring him back. And he delivered for four innings because he's on a limited pitch count. And then we brought in another quality pitcher, Reese Olsen, and they just absolutely dealt the whole game. Allowed one run in total in extras, right? Wasn't that one in extras? That was a Horton that ended up. Yeah, it wasn't even those two. Tyler Horton. Tyler Horton. But regardless, whoever gave up the run, it doesn't matter. It was only one run in ten innings, and our offense got absolutely just stonewalled by some bum from the A's. No one on the A's is good, and we lost 1-0. Very, very bad taste in your mouth. And the A's, to put in perspective, they're the worst team in baseball by far. Their run differential, I know you sent a picture to Cliff and I the other day of the run differential of everyone. And even the Tigers are like minus, I don't have the exact numbers, but it was a respectable amount. We're in the negative, but respectable. It's like minus 80. Yeah, and then you got the A's that were at like minus 220 or something like that. Just astronomically worse than everyone, and this A's team is obviously the worst team this year, but this A's team might be like top ten worst teams in baseball history. Like, they're just awful. They try and lose games. That's what they do. They're good at it. Yep, so good momentum going into that series, and then we dropped the first one in school's return, and then we go to the second game. I don't even remember the score to this one, but it was bad. It was like 12-2. Yeah, so the first game was like the second time in MLB history a team got struck out 12 times, had two hits, and won the game, and I don't think they had any walks either. And then the next game, and that was their first shutout of the season, and then the next game they scored their most points of the season. Yeah, they hadn't scored above ten runs all year, and they scored 12. And it was against E-Rod. It was very, oh, it hurt. I was very turned off to the Tigers. I was like, finally, they've done themselves good. This is when we stop caring. This is when we stop watching them. Right before the All-Star break. Yep, we got half a season. I was fine to let it die. But then they come out and they murder the A's in the third game, and it made it all the more frustrating that they killed them, because this is what should have happened the last couple days, but they didn't. So they win one against the A's, and then they go get stomped by the Blue Jays. On Friday night. It was not close. They were the better team, and you're like, man, we're going to be lucky to get one from these guys. I remember watching Castellani's video, and he was like, this might be, I'm surprised the Blue Jays don't win more games, because they have one of the best offenses in baseball. Yeah, their lineup is just stacked. You go George Springer, Guerrero Jr., even that Whit Merrifield from the Royals, who we're watching right now. Chapman. Yep. Matt Chapman, right? Yeah. Yeah, they've got a really good team, and so we get murdered on Friday. And then Saturday, you watched. I did. You tell the story, and then I'll tell what I was doing on Saturday. So Saturday, supposed to be a, I had just a one o'clock. It was my weekend off, obviously. I'm sitting here, one o'clock start, whatever, I'll turn on the Tigers. Do something else, because I'm ticked at them, right? So, then we get delayed an hour. Okay, whatever, it's on in the background. Finally we start, Matt Manning's on the mound, and he just starts dealing. I mean, it wasn't anything spectacular, but he was just doing his job. Then after six, you're noticing, okay, we actually have a no-hitter going right now. Because the game started in torrential downpour. I don't know why they started it, but he walked two guys in the first inning. So you would have never thought he had a no-hitter, because I remember him getting out of the gym. Yeah, you see guys on the bases. Yeah. You don't think. Two guys. Yeah. He didn't grip the ball in the first inning. But then he made it, like, I think seven and two-thirds. Yeah, he did. And he could not throw. It was six and two-thirds. Six and two-thirds. Because that's seven innings, and then the eight, yeah. And he was just losing it. Every count was going full. Guy Guerrero, Jr., on the team, too, didn't even mention him, had a 3-0 count in the seventh and swung and popped it up. Really? Indeed. Like, that's how lucky this no-hitter's getting, right? Well, then A.J. finally pulls him when he walks another guy. Foley comes in, and Foley should have been our all-star. Lorenzen, hopefully it sparks his career. But Foley has been dealing. And we're watching the Tigers right now, and we just had a pitch-back that just put a guy in scoring position because Manning, I think Torkelson just dropped the ball. Yeah, it didn't look like a bad pick-off move. Maybe it hit the runner. Let's see here. I don't think Tork gave effort. Yeah, it was kind of weird. So, anyway, Foley comes in, does his job, and then Lang. And if you know anything about Lang, he started the year super hot, and he gets in. And, man, he has been just on or off every game. And for some reason, he had it. And the other part is why A.J. pulled Manning as well is Manning's coming off an injury. It was in a rainy condition, so he was laboring, he said. And it was only a 2-0 game. So, with that runner on, it's one swing of the bat in the seventh inning. We could totally tie or lose, right? So, Lang comes in, two-run lead, shuts them down, no hitter, right? So, everybody celebrates. So, give your side, and then we got to talk about Lang the next day. Yeah. So, I was celebrating our one-year wedding anniversary, Jordan and I, which was a good time. We went over to the west side of the state to a bed-and-breakfast, spent the weekend there. And Saturday afternoon, we went to a beach, Oval Beach, over in Saugatuck. And we were just chilling there for the afternoon, right? It's good weather. It's nice. And I didn't have phone service. But I didn't really think anything of it. Like we said, we were kind of turned off to the Tigers after the poor performance by the A's, so they were not on my mind. And we just gave up a run, probably. No, he's not going to score. That's a terrible throw. Never mind. That's anywhere close he gets them. But regardless, and that's all because of the bad pickoff move. So, we're on the beach. Tigers are playing, unbeknownst to me, I'm napping. I wake up, and we leave the beach and go back to civilization, and I get a decent amount of messages on my phone. And the first one I see is from ESPN, Tigers combined no-hitter against the Blue Jays to win 2-0. And I see a bunch of texts from Dan and Cliff saying, you know, updating throughout the game. And I just thought to myself, I'm like, I could not have been more surprised to the notifications I got on my phone. Like, the Tigers pitched a no-hitter for one. That never happens. You know, that's a super rare thing. And then two to do it against the Blue Jays, who are a really, really good team. Colbren, the game before. Yeah, exactly. We got murdered the night before. So, that was, I texted them. I was like, of course, the one, you know, I pretty much watched probably like 95% of their games. This was the only game of the year where I didn't have a clue what was going on, didn't watch one second of it or anything, and it was our best performance of the season. So, I still remember the theory that he should not be watching. Yeah. I'll leave right now. He watches because that was rude. That's kind of lucky. But, yeah. So, the Tigers, I think it was our first ever combined no-hitter, which is only 20th in MLB history, which is pretty cool. I mean, it's history, right? So, even in a weird season, we had something cool happen. So, then we're like, okay, you know, this is momentum, right? Let's win Sunday, win the series against the Blue Jays, go 3-3 at home, we'll be good. And we get up and we dominate them the entire game. Was it 3-1 going into the night? Yeah, because we lost 4-3 or was it 4-2? It might have been 4-2, but regardless, we're up 2. We're up 2 going into the night. I mean, we have, in every aspect of the game, played a clean baseball game and dominated them. And you've got to remember going back to yesterday. Yesterday was Saturday, right? We had just no-hit them. So, they're demoralized. And then this game on Sunday, they had scored a couple runs. Oh, thank goodness. They had scored a couple runs, but it was very bad. You know, in terms of for the Blue Jays, they were off. You know, they were not having a good day. And we go to the night. We go to the night. We get two very quick outs. And you're like, okay, and it's laying again. Let's just take care of business. He then proceeds to four or five-pitch walk the next batter, which is I don't care what era of baseball you played in. It's unacceptable. That pitch was unacceptable. It was 95 down the middle. Tigers down 2-0 here on a Monday night. We're going to get beat by the Ratbag Royals. The Royals are just a score better than the A's. No reason we should be losing. They are Tiger killers, though. Yes. So, anyway, Elaine gets in and walks a guy. And then the very next batter gives up a home run. And the Tigers are just demoralized. Of course, we can't score an extra inning. They can. And we lose. I remember texting the guys. I cannot, like, oh, I don't want to watch another game. Like, we were just, that was. We thought the Oakland A's was the rock bottom. Like, okay, this team's done. We're done watching them. Then they do that no-hitter. Get us excited again. Looks like they're going to take two or three from the J's, which have got a really nice ending going into the All-Star break. Double play. So, we thought rock bottom was another in the week. And the Tigers said, no, hold my beer. I can make you feel even more depressed. You're going to have a no-hitter and then blow it. Same guy, same team, two different results. Yep. So, then we went into the All-Star break. We needed a break. We needed a week break. Yes. Did you watch any of the All-Star game? Yes, actually. My wife and I joined a Sand Volleyball League in between games. I was watching the entire Braves roster win it for the National League. Yep, yeah. But the MVP, that was kind of a cool story. I don't know if you saw that, but the guy's name, something. Diaz. Diaz. It started with an E, but he's the catcher for the Rockies. And the Tigers recently just played the Rockies. So, I remember him being on the roster. I remember seeing him. And everything gets their mandatory All-Star. Like, we had Michael Renzin. Who is, like, I think two and four in wins. Yeah, yeah. Terrible record and, like, a four ERA. Not an All-Star, but I digress. The A's had their guy, some guy that's hitting, like, 270 with, like, 12 home runs. You know, just, like, nothing special. And so the Rockies send their catcher, who, again, is just, you know, a good player on the Rockies, but not, shouldn't be at the All-Star game. The NL is down 2-1. They, and I didn't realize this, the NL had not won the All-Star game in nine straight games. Which is crazy to me because usually that should be the most balanced game. It should be, you know, 50-50, coin flip, whoever wins. So, they're down 2-1 going, I think it was the bottom of the eighth. It was the eighth. Or top of the eighth. And runner on, and the catcher for the Rockies comes up and just belts a two-run home run against the big, bad reliever from the Orioles, Bautista. Huge dude that just throws straight gas. And he served him up one, and he did not miss. And so that was pretty cool to see. You know, they said the odds going into the game for, you could bet on who the MVP was. He had the second, tied for the second worst odds to win. For real? The MVP of the game. I did not know that. He was like plus 6,500 odds or something crazy. Which, you know, good for him. Yeah. That's cool. And the NL did in fact win. Another cool stat about the All-Star break, or the All-Star game, last time the NL won. The Tigers were in the World Series. Oh. So you're calling a World Series trip for us? I think it's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. It's written in the stars. Then we were ready, geared up to play the Mariners. And I had a very short fuse. If we lost to the Mariners, got swept by them, I think I was going to cancel my Valley subscription. And we tried to lose about eight different ways on Friday night and just found a way to win. Yeah. Like, everything went our way. Every little bounce. It was the luckiest game I've seen from the Tigers all year. I mean, we had first inning, Kerry Carpenter comes up, two-run bomb. That wasn't, you know, that's fine. But then in the bottom of the first, Matt, they, I think it was Rodriguez, their good player, smokes one to center field and Bierling goes up and robs him of a home run. Over the wall. Yeah. And so right then and there, I think you texted. You were like, we're not losing tonight. Yep. We should have taken a money line. Right then and there. And we just, good things kept happening. We get in, two-run lead going into the ninth inning, and our boy Alex Lane comes in and just looks awful again. He needs to go. We need to get rid of him for literally a bag of potatoes or potato chips or something at the trade deadline. Yeah, I think we could get a little value for him because he does have elite stuff, elite potential, but he can't locate his fastball. Nope. And then that game, Friday, he comes in with a two-run lead, hits the first out after a battle, and then the next hitter jacks a home run, a solo shot. So now it's 5-4 and the crowd is into it. And then they proceeded to get, I think he walked a guy. The guy got hit. It was good. First and second with one out, and I'm pretty sure the top of their order came up. When did we get something weird that they got to second and third as well? I don't remember, but I know he struck out Julio Rodriguez to end the game. It was a pitch down the middle that Julio just stared at. Yeah, it was nothing crazy. But he did get the save, but it was very sketchy. And that game overall was a ton of fun to watch. Kind of a crazy, lucky, weird baseball game. And then Saturday was even better. We just went in and dominated. Carpenter had his first ever two-home run game. Really broke it open in the, I think, sixth or seventh. It was 3-0. He got a three-run shot. And can we talk about where that ball was? It was 430 feet deep. Yes. I don't want to talk about where it was. Before he left his bat, that thing was a fastball at his chin. And he just tattooed it, like you said, 430 feet or something crazy. But I think what was more impressive was there was two outs. And Riley Green got up and got a knock, I think. Or maybe he got a walk. And then Tork got a base hit. Wow. Bonnie has a base on balls and a in-field single. Is that her best player? So, yeah, Green went up and got a big walk. He had 0-2 count. Ended up getting a walk. Yeah. And then Tork cued one for a single in the oppo field, scored a run. And then Tork and Green were on, I think, first and third. And Kerry just got up there and gave it a ride. I mean, you're not going to lose a 6-0 game very often. So we know we're winning the series. Now let's go get a sweep. I mean, we don't sweep teams, period. Sunday, offense goes back into their shell. Pitching was completely fine by Reese Olsen. Two runs isn't bad by any means. But we just couldn't hit. Or, actually, we had a lot of hits in the first five innings. Like, each inning we got a hit. We just couldn't string them together. And Javi Baez was so bad that we benched him for tonight's game on Monday. Which I am in full support of. He went up there and made a meme out of himself in that last at-bat. He struck out. The catcher set up, I kid you not, a foot. The catcher might as well have been in the dugout where he set up. And the pitch was there where the catcher set up. And he still swung and just. He looked like a fool. He couldn't have hit that pitch if he hadn't had a rowing oar, like a canoe or something, you know? It was so out there, man. I don't know why he thinks he's swinging. Yeah, it's. He is our most disappointing player because of how much he gets paid. All these other young guys, you can kind of get away with how bad they are because they're young and whatever. Pitch clock violation? Time? I don't know. Time by Akil Badu on an 0-2 count. Hey, you want to live bet Akil Badu 0-2 count homer? Nah, I'm good. But, yeah, with Havi, how much he's getting paid. And it doesn't look like he's trying. Like all the other guys, you can tell. Like Badu, he tries. He sucks, but he tries. Havi doesn't even try. Havi, yeah. We watch on Twitter yesterday, LA Daily Crews just broke the stat record for infield. I know it's a stretch, but infield throw to first. He threw it 98 miles an hour to first base. Got a runner out, a speedster. And Havi, in the first or second inning, literally got an easy chopper ground ball, bounced it to torque, and they got an infield single. They ruled it a single. It should have totally been an error on Havi. And that just right there shows you he just does not care. Just lives for the paycheck. Could care less about this terrible team. Instead of being a leader of these young guys, like he has a perfect opportunity. He just goes out there, chews his wad, and moves on. Exactly. Spits his sunflower seeds as he's down 0-2. Just swung at the most foul pitch known to mankind. It's all good. And he, like you said, predetermines whether or not he's swinging. It does not matter what it is. He's just going up there and hammering away. Yeah, like Castellani always is ripping on him about he's determined that he was going to swing at that pitch a week ago. He says it's funny. It's insane. But all I have to say, we have not given up on the Tigers. We are, in fact, watching them on a Monday night get beat by the Royals. But I think we're going to watch them the rest of the year. At least up until the trade deadline. And, you know, if they got the whole roster and were ten games out of the race, yeah, we'll probably stop. I hope they do have a bet on it. I hope they do. And right now, the over for the win total, they have to get to 70 wins for the over to hit for our bet. And it is looking promising. They're at 41 wins right now. So they have to go, you know, they kind of have to have like a 40-win percentage the rest of the way out, which is totally doable. That's what this team is. Because we don't sweep anybody, but we don't often get swept. Even by the best teams, we play up. How about a four-pitch walk to half here? That would be nice. That would be probably Lyle's last batter that he faces. We need it, though. So we put our bet on for tonight. Two walks by Lyle, four strikeouts by Manning. Tigers will win. And Kerry Carpenter, two bases. He has a single, so he needs another. Instead, Haas on a 1-0 count is swinging at a hobby by his slider. Take the mask off, Haas. Got to be hobby under there. So I think that kind of puts us up to date. Other MLB stuff, the Braves, the Rangers, the Rays, actually the entire AL East are the Dodgers. Those are all the teams to watch for. That team has won in the World Series. Those teams, you watch those teams, they're just stacked. Like the ball is being put in play 90% of the time. 90% of the time. The Braves just hit home runs like it's no big deal. It's insane. I think the Yankees and the Red Sox are tied for worst in the East. Wow. They have a guy right up the middle. Tied for worst and it needs to hit the pitcher there. Yeah. I don't think we're going to. I think Lyle's is done. Hopefully he comes out for one more. And, yeah, they're two games above. They would be two games above anyone in the AL Central and they're tied for worst in the AL East. Yep. At 50 and 45, I think, or something like that. Yep. The Central is brutal. But. But, yeah, Tigers hanging around. Hey, they've done what we asked them to do. Be relevant. Be relevant and I'm seeing Green play really well, which is really encouraging. Apparently in an eight-game history. Yeah, we didn't know that until today. He goes on those spurts, but then he goes on an 0 for 20 spurt at the same time. So there's still a lot of work to do with him. But the best part of this season has been Kerry Carpenter. Wow. He is going to be around for the long haul. And he might be, we might say in like 10, 12 years, man, Kerry's my tiger. You know how you said in those commercials. No longer the Miggie. Yeah. We got to stop putting up with the Miggie. We just got to put him away. You're starting to see a core of bats now that we're healthy. Like I look at the lineup and one through five, I'm like, okay. I'm not mad. I can work with that. That's why I like games like this. We stay calm because they're so young you can't expect much. You just want to see little bits of improvement. And some games they're all clicking and we'll blow a team out, even with these super young guys. So, it's just you got to stay really patient. We're not, sadly none of our guys are turning to L.E. De La Cruz, but you can't expect that. Yeah, that's a pretty rare occurrence. Lightning in a bottle that the Reds got lucky with. But I think Tigers are in a four-game series with the Royals here. Correct. And then we host the Padres this weekend. And then I think Shohei Otani is coming to town. That's always a show. Yeah. Definitely some no games on there that are like for sure losses. You know, it's not like the Braves are rolling into town again. And we even stole one of the Braves, I think. We did. We should not have. Yeah, I'm telling you, the Tigers are so weird. Anyway, let's move on to football. Yes. Bigger and better things. So, I was on Twitter the other day. Shout out. I got Jared to download Twitter. I do have a Twitter now. All I followed for the first week was Chris Castiani. Yeah, you simply. I was following one person. Simply got it to get Tiger game reviews because you were sick of us sending them to you. Yep. I'm trying to get baseball loaded back on our TV here. Had a little snafu. Then we'll hop into football. So, like I said. There we go. Oh, we already got an out. Let's go. Hopefully there's a strikeout. Zach McKinstry? Nice. He's better than Javi. Oh, man. Okay. So, the tweet was from D period underscore 312 Darius. And he said, so much funny stuff happened last season in the NFL that doesn't get talked about. And it made me think, like. Oh, I probably watched 90% of it. 95% of the NFL games because I had to take it for the first time ever. First year being married. My wife worked every other weekend. So, I literally watched a lot of football. You got your money's worth. I did. I did. And I don't think I'll ever go a year again without a ticket. Sadly. Yeah, it's nice. Very nice. So, I. Especially for fantasy. If you have a fantasy team. Yeah. The ticket is a must if you want to track how your players are doing. So, you can actually see and not just see dumb stats because stats are very misleading. Yep. Like, lock it with eight catches and, you know, 80 yards. But, three or four of them were on the last drive kind of deal. You got to be paying attention. Like, was that just luck? Yep. Yada, yada, yada. Anyway, I wanted to see what people had to say about it. And this tweet went viral. Everybody was responding to different parts about it. Just, like, different clips in their Twitter feed of how crazy NFL season was. So, the first one was the Kobe Meyers pitch play in the Patriots-Raiders game. Remember we were watching that at B-Dubs? Yeah. It was 24-24. Just, Patriots have the ball. Instead of, you know, laterally, the game's over. Let's just go to overtime, right? He throws it back. Who was it? Oh, it was Chandler Jones. Yeah, yeah. He throws it back probably 15, 20 yards. Was he not a former Patriot? He was a former Cardinal. I don't know. Maybe I'm streaming. So, the Raiders are 5-8. Both teams are kind of, you know, still on the edge of a lot of changes. They're in the hunt graphic. So, both their fan bases are like, we need this win. In the Patriots, they're 7-6 going into this. So, they definitely need this. And he threw it back about 20 yards. Chandler Jones caught it. By the way, Jake would have something to say about this if he was here. Oh, man. So, that's the first play. Did the Patriots make the playoffs? I don't think they did. I don't think so. Yeah, so, you wonder. You got a couple things to turn to. The comment underneath said they traded him to the Raiders because he was already playing for them. So, maybe the Patriots did trade him. I want to say he was on the Patriots. And that's what made it so funny, other than the fact that they threw a 20-yard lateral for a game-losing touchdown. Oh, the Patriots. And that's such an Bill Belichick-style team thing to do. Yeah, surprised he didn't have them executed right after the game. That's a callback to last mile. Yes, it is. No, no, no. No, not last mile. Brian Kelly with LSU. Week one. Again. College football. And not last year. I think the year before. Against Florida State, yes. Yeah, making a joke about executing his players. Yeah, that was terrible. But the second clip was the Chargers blowing a 27-0 lead to the Jags in the playoffs. Yeah. It would be one thing if it was, like, Chargers blow a 27-point lead to the Chiefs or the Patriots, you know, back when Tom Brady was around. But to the Jags? I mean, I think we predicted the Jags to win, but it was going to be a regular game. Like, the Jags were not a high-powered offense to come back from four touchdowns. I think some of them did. Yeah. So, that was just another wild game in the playoffs. There wasn't, like, the playoffs were not as good as the year before, but that game, that was about the only way to get people to watch it because no one's going to watch Chargers-Jaguar. Those aren't historic NFL franchises, to say the least. No, by no means. And then the next clip is Andy Dalton's pick six. I remember watching this live. The guy's diving into the end zone. That's such a great video. And he just turns around. They were playing the Cardinals. Yeah. Was that Monday Night Football? Yeah, before the season, if you would have told me that matchup was on Monday Night Football, I'd have been like, sweet, that'll be a good game, Cardinals, you know, Saints and all that. By the time it came around, I think it was Andy Dalton versus Colt McCoy. Was he cornerbacking for the Cardinals? Yeah. Oh, by the way, we are watching the second inning. Oh, Kerry? We're watching the second inning, Craig. I was going to say, Kerry just had the exact same hit that he had. My phone is spazzing. We're watching the Tigers in the second inning. Let's see if I can't get live here. I liked it better. We weren't losing back then. Because I thought at the top of our order we were. We already got two outs at the top of the sixth. Torque up the bat. Yeah. Lyles is still pitching. We need a walk here, but. This is definitely his last inning. Okay, Saints and Cardinals, we'll watch that. Oh, remember the Bills-Vikings game when the Bills O.C. like spazzed hardcore and threw his playbook? Yes. Was that when they lost to the Vikings? That was a crazy game. So, the Vikings should have won. And then got stood up on the goal line. And then Josh Allen went to QB sneak and, oh, torque bomb? It didn't even have anything on it. Wow. Barely hit. Yeah, that was when Justin Jefferson made that crazy catch on, like, fourth and 15, fourth and 20, something. Yeah. Ridiculous. And then, yeah, Josh Allen fumbles on his own inch-yard line. And then the Vikings end up scoring. Yeah. It was weird. That was the Vikings season in a nutshell, just lucky. Yep. And then the Buccaneers-Panthers game. Brady had that insane roughing the passer call. Yeah, yeah. Was that the Panthers game? I think it was. No, it was the Falcons. No, it was the Falcons. Arthur Smith, their head coach, was pissed, and rightfully so. Let's keep looking. Oh, I remember. So, I had D.J. Moore on my fantasy team. The 2-5 Panthers and the 3-4 Falcons were in a legitimate playoff hunt. And D.J. Moore caught a 40-yard touchdown. They were down by six, 34-28. He caught a 40-yard touchdown, which is huge for our fantasy league. And it was 12 seconds left of the fourth. Wow. Should not have happened. He took his helmet off, off the field, so it shouldn't have been a penalty, because he took it off in the back of the end zone and celebrated. And they ruled it a penalty, and they missed the extra point, and then they lost in overtime. Yeah, that throw actually came up on my feed today, too. And the throw to score that touchdown was an insane throw. I don't even know. Who was the quarterback that threw that for the Panthers? Was it Darnold? No, it was... Oh, yeah. I don't know his name. But it was an elite throw, like a Patrick Holmes-type throw. It was perfect. So, yeah, then you get the helmet coming off and all downhill from there. They lost in overtime. Arian Foster came on to Mad Dog, or was it Mad Dog? Arian Foster said there was a script. Yeah. Everybody freaked out. Was that on Bustin' with the Boys? I know he goes on that podcast. Everybody was then talking about that. The Browns were up 30-17 with 1.32 left, and the Jets had no timeouts, and the Jets won. I don't remember that. It was the very beginning of the season, remember, 30-17, and they ended up the corpse of Joe Fly. The guy tweeted, I'm certainly not better that the Browns blew a 13-point lead to the corpse of Joe Fly. Remember? I don't remember that. So the Jets score, and then Cleveland scores. The Jets are out of timeouts. All Cleveland had to do was not score. And I think Chubb ran into the end zone. And then the Jets scored again and then scored again and won. It was terrible. I remember one that came up on my feed today. It was the Niners against the Broncos on, I think it was like a Thursday night football game or something like that. And Jimmy G was starting for the Niners, and they had the ball on their own like one or two-yard line. He drops back to pass, pulls a Dan Orlovsky, just runs right out of the end zone. And to make things even worse, launches the ball and he gets intercepted for a pick six. And the tweet was, Jimmy G's the only quarterback I know that could run out of the back of the end zone for a safety and throw a pick six on the same play. Yeah, he was. I don't understand. The Niners need one more. Maybe he did get four. We don't know. The Niners need one more, like, good quarterback, and they're going to win a couple of suits. I don't want that to happen. Jimmy G's bad. Dang it, Matt Manning. We weren't going to win anyway. There's a clip here where Derwin James bodied Travis Kelsey. Oh, yeah, picks him right up and suplexes him. We'll scroll in here. Oh, here's the Vikings-Bills game. He had some good stiff arms. P. Ryan had a nice one on the Titans. Did Derrick Henry have another classic one or something? Henry did. Mack Jones with his rolled ankle. Oh, Gusecki hitting the skedaddle, they call it. Yeah, the modified gritty. Oh, Russell Wilson in the Broncos' country. Yeah, that's what we missed the biggest story early on in the season last year was Russ to the Broncos and then Russ absolutely sucking all year for the Broncos. That was, let's ride. That was, what a bad football team. Because I saw the, I saw the clip. It was week two of Monday Night Football, or maybe week one. And it was Broncos. I don't know who they were playing. But we were watching the Manning cast, they had Shannon Sharp on. And was it Seattle? Broncos-Seattle? Yeah. Yeah, because he was playing his former team. Russ's return to Seattle. And they, I'm like, they're 40. Or the other team's 42, I think. And it's fourth down, two or three. And there's 50 seconds left. And they just let the clock do it all the way down to 20 seconds. Call a timeout. Have McManus trot out there and just shank a field goal. That's when you knew Nathaniel Hackett was going to be shot out of the cannon. And I remember watching the Manning cast. Peyton's like, yeah, I think we take a timeout on your E, right? Talking about when we got three of them. They had three timeouts. Talk it over. You know, we got Russell Wilson. Talk it over. And they just proceeded to let it go down. And you're watching, like, the typical coach. Hackett's, like, dapping up his random tight end. Like, nice job up there. Way to get us in field goal range. When they were totally not in field goal range. Yeah, a complete mismanagement. And it was more of that to follow. That was a sign for the rest of the year for the Broncos. Oh, man. I'm trying to think if there's any more right here. Justin Tucker doing Justin Tucker things. Oh, Kirk Cousins with the chains. On the plane. I don't know what game. Was that after the Bills game? That just told me. They were home for that game, I think. But Kirk Cousins on the plane ride home decked out in all the chains with no shirt on. That was a picture that would go in the Hall of Fame. Oh, man. Oh, Diggs taunting Bobby Wagner didn't get called. That led to the Lions not making the playoffs. That's a joke. Any other crazy things you can think of off the top of your head before we hop to the next one? Not that I can think of. How about this big O-lineman on, like, Thursday night football, scoring a touchdown, but it got called back because he can't advance on fumble. The Dolphins O-lineman picking up a fumble off a screen play and just getting absolutely 360 in the air. I've seen the picture where his head is fully 180. His feet are completely above his head, and it's just the cover of Madden. I buy that game. That picture, I'm sorry. Oh, man. I am very excited for the next NFL season. Not for my call. Not for the Packers. I think it's for the Lions. It's for the Lions. Man, I miss football. But, on a good note, that segues us. There's only 41 or 42 days until college football starts. Week zero. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just saw the Michigan posted 50 days until their first game. So, it's coming up, man. We're over the July 17th. You start looking forward to scheduling your fantasy football draft, and then you roll right into the season. It's going to be a good time. Michigan needs to be in the Maddie this year. Yeah, let's talk a little Michigan football. Yeah. Update, our bat did not hit. But Michigan football goals for the season, what do you need to see out of the Wolverines this year? Oh, man. We know our running backs are good. Hopefully they're good. Edwards has kind of become more vocal. So, hopefully he just did fine with splitting reps. And then they actually split it. There's not much I need to see from the offense, really. I trust all the pieces there. A couple of old linemen to replace, but I think we have the guys to do it. We have good tight ends in Wembley. Jay is obviously good. Stay healthy on offense. On defense, I'm a little worried about the line, the D line. I know Mason Graham can plug a hole, but we need to be able to get to quarterbacks. And I would, last year at this time, I was also saying the same thing about the D line. I was like, who in the world is going to fill in for Ojabo and Hutchinson for sacking the passer and everything? But Mike Morris just showed up. Ozzie Smith just showed up. I feel like at this point, I'm kind of at the same point I was last summer. I'm like, man, who's going to do all this stuff for us? But now, as opposed to last summer, I'm like, we'll just put another guy there and our coaches will coach up another guy and he'll perform. That's the point you want to get to as a college football program, where you just don't know who it's going to be, but you just have so much confidence in what you've been doing that it's just rinse and repeat. That's what the Georgia, the Ohio State, the Alabamas get to. And I'm not saying Michigan's quite there yet, but going into this season, I'm not even too worried. Not that you mention it. You're talking about it. The only thing I am worried about is our special teams kicking. I have been the one mentioning that a couple times. But we got the transfer. Yeah, so we had a kicker transfer from Louisville or something, and you were the first one. You said it to me right away. You're like, see, we're fine. We're going to the Natty now. And I was like, yes, you're correct. We now have a good name. We've replaced Jake Moody. Brad Robbins wasn't anything special anyway, so. No, yeah. He was the most overhyped punter. Because of his stache. Yeah. That I've ever seen. So I got – this was posted seven days ago. This is CBS, I think. NCAA.com. College football preseason top 25 for the 2023 season. Way too early rankings. Which it's not way too early anymore. Do you want me to just let you guess who one is and so on and so forth so you can't do it anymore? Sure. All right. Wild guess of one. Georgia. Yes. They lose Bennett. That's all right. Better be strong at everything besides quarterback, so as long as they can figure that out, Georgia will be back there. Who do you think two is? Did they throw Bama at two? They did not. Who am I missing? Is it Michigan? It is Michigan, I think. It is. Okay, I thought we'd be three. To this point and in a row, they talk about we do have – we're one of the only teams returning our quarterback. And JJ is just fine. Yep. So. And I don't even need to see, like, some people talking. Is JJ going to be a Heisman contender? Is he going to set the single season touchdown record at Michigan? Oh, that sucks. Bierling just lined out, looked like that was going to be a double. And I'm like, I don't need to see that, man. Just do what he did last year. Just be a game – be a glorified – A better version of McNamara. Yeah, be a glorified game manager that can escape a few sacks with your legs because you're faster and athletic than McNamara. That's all I need from you. Don't try to create too much. Yeah. Anyway, so two Michigan, three got to be Ohio State. Three is the Buckeyes. Four is Bama then. Yes. Yep, Ryan Day is going off back-to-back boxes. So he might get canned. Five has got to be USC, right? No. No? Six USC? USC is actually eight. Okay. I thought they'd be a little higher. Eight. Big 10 team is at five. All right, 10 states. Can't forget about the annoying Nittany Lions. Sean Clifford is finally done, which means their highly touted recruit, Drew Allar. Allar, I think. Allar, he's here. They got Nick Singleton, Katron Allen. Big run backs. Everybody wants to talk about them, but they forget the best run back tandem is Cormen Edwards by far. 10 states a lot like Michigan, honestly. They've got a quarterback who's a highly touted recruit at quarterback, a good running back tandem. Penn State never has elite O-lines, so that's the one area that I, you know, hesitate on them. But then Penn State always has a rock solid defense, and they've got the best home field advantage in all of college football, in my opinion, when they do that whiteout. Which they're wasting on Iowa. Not well planned by the planners, but, yeah, I can see them being at five. They'll have their opportunities. Next team is a SEC team. Give me, what am I not thinking of here? They went 10-4, won the Citrus Bowl. Is it Penn State? It is not. Citrus Bowl. Executing players. Oh, it's LSU. LSU. Thank you for that subtle. They did beat up Bama last year. That's true. That's true. They have a quarterback coming back. They have a quarterback, James Daniels. They're going to be all right. Yeah, I can see them making some noise in the SEC. Seven is a team they always play on week zero, or the first week. Florida State. Yeah, I'll be interested. That's a team I can totally see when we visit this in six months. Like, we put Florida State at seven? Yeah. Kind of thing. I can see that. Well, that's the thing. Falling out. The key part is, this is the first ACC team listed, which is typically Clemson in the top five, right? So Florida State at seven, they must be assuming that Florida State is going to win the ACC. I guess. Where do they have Clemson on this list? 14. Okay. Middle of the pack. USC at eight, like you said. That's the first Pac-12 team, but then the second one, Washington. Washington is very interesting to me this year. They also have a quarterback. Penix. Rico's favorite. Yeah, Penix. He thinks he should go play for probably Mahomes. I don't know. He's good. They let him throw the ball all over the yard. Yeah, they're fun to watch. Washington's fun. You just got to be willing to stay up from nine in the morning to four in the morning because. A little Pac-12 after dark. Oh, man. TCU is going to be ten. They obviously lose their boy, Max Duggan. He's a heart and soul kind of guy. I can also see TCU being a. A dud. Yeah, a dud this year. They also lose a couple of key receivers. Another interesting team could potentially win the Pac-12 because they can always beat USC. Oregon? Utah. Utah. Is Cam Rising back? He is. Oh, yeah, they can definitely do it then. He's good. He is back. And then your boys, Rocky Top, Tennessee. There's Mr. Milton. Heisman hopeful and Mr. Joe Milton. I'll believe that when I see it. Mr. Independent, Notre Dame. Okay. They have an early test against Ohio State. They get Ohio State at home. They do get them at home. That would be huge. That would be awesome if they won. Clemson, 14. They're always going to be in the top 15 under Dabo. Yep. I don't even know. Cade Klubnick is the guy, quarterback. Not DJ. Didn't last year we have a foul Clemson parlay that hit? Clemson versus North Carolina State. And it was yards by DJ Ugolale or something. Yep. And we took the crazy part of that bet was we took the over in the point. And the game was over. And it was six points back. We were going to lose the bet. And since it was over, Clemson just played prevent defense and let NC State march down the whole field and get a garbage time touchdown right before time expired. Kicked the extra point and the bet hit. We had you over. You had given up. I remember you throwing it down. I'm like, D, they could totally go down the field here because Clemson's not going to be trying. It's over. Oh, my word. But wasn't it a big game, too, though? At the time it was decent. But after that game, NC State died. So looking back, it wasn't that cool. Yeah, because they're always their Super Bowl. These two teams that always bug each other, Oregon and Oregon State, are 15 and 16. Civil War. Speaking of D.J., that's where he's at now is Oregon State, I believe. Yes. He transferred. Which makes them very compelling, actually, because they had a good year last year. He might not even be the star, though, because they have another quarterback who's back. If he loses that job, that's pretty tough. He thought it was safe enough, packed all schools still. Texas comes in at 17. First non-Power Five conference besides the Notre Dame team. You want to venture a guess? The colors are green. Marshall. No. Tulane. It is Tulane. At 18, they have them. Wow. But where is Colorado? Where is Coach Prime? Yeah, where's Coach Prime? Texas Tech, 19. Kansas State, 20. Iowa, they have at 21, which is very intriguing to me. You know, that's kind of right where they always – they're always hovering around that 20 to 35 ranking. And with Cade and Eric Ball, that's the one thing that's always intriguing to me. That's the one thing they can't do is score. Oh, my word. The article about it is like, Iowa only averaged 18 points last year and still won eight games. Oh, boy. Oh, a kid's dream? Yeah, you should have known better. Don't just chuck it. There's no one out. Yeah. North Carolina at 22, Wisconsin at 23, Ole Miss at 24, UTSA at 25. Interesting. So. But, yeah, definitely getting excited for college football. That is coming up quick. And Michigan's going to be good this year. Torque could have gotten that. That was a tough play. Tough play, but, yeah. They bounced over as well. So, yeah, college football, a little preview there, less than – I think there's six weeks to go. Yep. So, that's pretty exciting. Definitely. Enough of watching these terrible Tigers, man. I think we can save Oppenheimer until after we watch it. You and I are for sure going to see it this Thursday, so we'll give a review next time we're on. Is anyone else going to see it that you know of? I'd have to check up with the boys, but so far it's just you and me and the ladies. Okay. Yeah, it'd be fun to get a group view of that. It's supposed to be a good movie. I'll also give next episode a Dead Reckoning Part 1 review. I went and saw Mission Impossible last night, 10 o'clock at night. Part 1. Yeah, Part 1. How many parts of Dead Reckoning are there? There's just two. Huh. When does the next one come out? I assume like three or four years. Yeah, that's true. So, I've always liked Mission Impossible. We'll give a review later. A little different episode, like we said. Our boy Jake had his own football to be in, so we decided to cover some football topics. And, of course, the Lousy Tigers for you. Yeah, yeah. This has been a brutal game to watch. Down 2-0 to the Royals and haven't – we've only really – we've gotten, what, one guy to third base all game? With two outs, with the bottom of our order up. Yeah, it's been – and the pitcher that the Royals threw out there is terrible. He has one win on the year. Yeah, we're about to give him a second win. But the interesting part is he has, like, 12 losses. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't get no decisions. He just loses. Oh, and he has, like, 14 losses. Probably by now, I don't know. Either way, Tigers, I mean, this is why we're not winning the division is we're just too inexperienced to even put up runs against the Royals. I mean, pitching's not bad. Two runs isn't awful. We're about to give up more in the seventh, though. But I think that's going to do it for us. We'll get our boy Jake on for the next episode. But other than that, have a good rest of your week and D-O. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back.