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The speaker discusses their post-workout routine for disinfecting their training gear to prevent infections. They talk about using disinfectant spray and wipes, as well as clipping their nails before training. They also mention their dislike for rash guards and their preference for certain brands of gis. The speaker shares their experience with different types of gis and their appreciation for the quality of Origin gis. They conclude by mentioning the various gyms they have trained at over the years. Welcome to the BJJ Executive Podcast, Open Mat. I'm your host, Dave Kroll. Today's episode is sponsored by PohadaFuel.com, featuring a deep product line of supplements to fill in the nutritional gaps for grapplers and for athletes of all types. Their XS and Nutrilite products are well-known in the industry for the clean and, in many cases, organic origination of their source product. And as a bonus, they're sold and distributed by my friend and a friend of the podcast, Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt, Tristan Gazelle. If you enjoy the podcast and wish to support us, please do so by liking and sharing our content on social media and by leaving a review on whichever platform you're listening from. The BJJ Executive Podcast is proudly partnered with The Mat Mission, a nonprofit 501c3 organization charged with spreading Jiu-Jitsu through communities in need and providing mentorship and leadership to the youth within those communities. If you want to get involved in The Mat Mission, follow our Instagram page, contact us on our website, or feel free to message us directly. As always, thank you for listening and making this a part of your Jiu-Jitsu journey. And as I always say, welcome to mine. Enjoy the episode. The combat sports thing is, it's high contact. And I think the only people in the Western culture that didn't freak out about COVID was the combat practitioners. All of us were like, what do you mean six feet? Like the guy who was dripping sweat in my eyeball yesterday. I know, man. But today, he's lethal? Like, I just don't see that. I know. It's crazy, dude. But yeah, my post-workout routine is formed up after years of reading on it and looking up products and making sure that I don't want to put myself in a position where I'm also contributing to the MRSA problem of disaffecting so much that this stuff gets so strong. So I'm not hyper, I'm not a germaphobe, but I'm hyper aware of the fact, like, you kill it fast, it doesn't stink. And so I'll finish training. I get done. Whenever I'm actually closing up, I take a bottle of disinfectant that's aerosol, so that way it pushes into the fabric. And I'll spray down my gi. I'll use disinfectant wipes that, what's it called? You're using them today. Defense wipes? Defense wipes. I'll use defense wipes or something with tea tree oil in them because it's anti-fungal. I'll wipe my exposed skin down and either shower immediately after or if I don't get access to a shower right away, I make sure all my exposed skin's gotten cleaned and put it in my bag. And the upside to using the disinfectant spray is that the stink just never forms up. Your stuff stays pretty good. Because when I first started jujitsu, I didn't know that trick. I learned that from another guy. But I learned to disinfect it, so I would use disinfectant liquid, not laundry detergent, but concentrated disinfectant in the wash. We use that as well. But when I first started training at Double Five, I watched J.P. Donnell show up and he hosed down his gi with Lysol disinfectant spray. I was like, that's genius. He's like, yeah, dude, I travel too much. This stuff will sit in a gym bag for three days. I can't just let it fester. I'll ruin the gi. I'm like, it's true. It'll be just locked into the fibers, man. It blew my mind. And actually, this scratch is from someone's fingernails. I always clip. Yeah, same here, man. Even in the parking lot, if I forget, I'll get super paranoid about it. I'm super paranoid about it. I don't know why other people aren't. I got a freaking cut on my face. I know, you can't really see it. It's in my feet right now, but I have like gashes in my feet from somebody's fingernails yesterday. You could get infected that way. I mean, that's where stuff starts taking formation. Just like even smaller micro cuts. I got a staph infection on my chin about a year ago. I remember, yeah. And it was from a scratch. Oh, really? It was from a high-level guy that just didn't clip his fingernails. Yeah. Could you see the scratch? No, the problem was I had about maybe a five-day stubble, and so I didn't see it, but I felt it. And so I was like, okay, I'm not going to shave over it. And that's when it just spread like wildfire. Is that right? Yeah, man. Stuff grows, dude. Yeah. So if you're a practitioner, my philosophy is you should, before training, give yourself a palm with your fingernails. Make sure you can't feel them. Yeah. Make sure. Yeah. Okay, I'm good. Yeah, do this, and then put your toes in the bottom of your foot. And if you can feel your fingernails, clip them, or your toenails, clip them. And I use mouthwash in my mouth guard, because that's gross. And I'm hyper aware of the fact that if I don't have a fresh layer of deodorant on, it's courteous to put a fresh layer of deodorant on. And I'm not a fan of the rash guard under the gi. I'm not either, just because it's hot. I mean, I don't really- It's a comfort thing, and it wasn't designed that way. Yeah. So my kids would train. My kids started training for me, and switched over to Argyle. And Paul requires a rash guard under for the kids. And it's because he's like, yeah, but the kids are like, oh, those are the boobies. And he doesn't want the kids being immature about skin, so he just makes them wear the rash guard, which is fine. But I mean, I remember Matt, he's a UFC fighter. He trained with us for about a year. Matt, I can't remember his name. Wyman? Matt Wyman? Wyman, yeah. 06. Yeah, so I had a rash guard underneath so I could trade out gi, no gi. And so I was just training with him, so someone was like, hey, can you do a round no gi? That'd be the only reason I'd do it. Well, that was the only reason I did. And he's like, dude, you need to ditch that, man. You would perform so much better without that on. I'm like, I didn't even think about that. It never crossed my mind. But here's this elite athlete telling me that, and I haven't worn a rash guard since. Unless someone makes me, then I'll wear one. Yeah. I mean, it keeps all the body heat in, and some restrict your breathing. Yeah. It keeps the pressure real thick, like a wetsuit. I hate those, dude. They're like, phew, phew, phew. You know what I mean? It's like neoprene. Oh, God. It drives me insane. Yeah. Yeah. And then, I mean, imagine getting smashed by somebody with it on. I mean, it just makes it worse. Yeah. There's more sweat caught in there. It's cold, and it hits your face. I know, man. It's all like, yeah, smacking you around and stuff. It's gross. Like a wet towel. I know. And it just holds sweat differently. I mean, gi's are so technologically superior now. I don't understand it at all, but that would just freak it off. They really are, dude. I mean, it is. We're working with Breakpoint for our gi's. What's Breakpoint? Breakpoint is a gi company. Yeah, it's a gi company based out of San Diego. Obviously, it's Pakistani cotton, but it's an American company. And Paul uses them for Argyle, so it'll be the exact same look, same feel, same everything. But we're going to have that as the entry point, and then I'm going to have a partnership with Origin for people who train a lot. Dude, that's Zach, man. Zach cracked the code to that. You know, he is, dude. I would have a... And I guess it's a personal thing. I just couldn't... When I started Jujitsu, I remember buying my first gi, and it was like, you don't have to buy the big one now, you know? Right. That's my point. It's like, we're going to have the Breakpoint as an entry level, and then if you want to upgrade to an Origin, we'll have the same. That's interesting, dude. Because I'm like that. First of all, I don't know if this is a local thing or if it's a now thing, but gi's were... They just never met. I had a friend text me the other day, he was like, any recommendations for gi's other than Origin? And I'm like, I don't care. I literally do not care. First of all, I was only... I'm an Origin guy, all the way. I am. I like them, but I'm going to be honest, dude. My Origin gi is great, but Origin doesn't pay me, and so Origin's fine. I mean, they're like, I love the Pro Pants. Somebody else is going to... That's the only reason I'm such a fan. I am a fan. That's what I like the most. I won't use another brand, because after using Pro Pants, how can you go back to the stupid drawstring of Germans? You're retying every round. I know, man. And it feels like you have parachute pants on after that. I feel like self-conscious. I'm like, dude... When you have to go chasing the drawstring. Yeah, man. Unbelievable. I mean, we don't get paid from Origin. Shameless plug, though. I mean... The Pro Pants are worth it. Pro Pants are worth it. Origin was the very first gi I ever bought brand new, and it was probably the only gi I ever spent more than $100 on. Now, you know me. I'm frugal, I'm cheap. We're all on the same way. My gi's were all clearance gi's. Same, man. Or eBay. I bought a few Atoma gi's on eBay for like $30. I don't know if you remember, I wore them... So I had two gi's that are rotated. I had the Blanca Street Fighter gi. I do remember that. And I had a Ryu Hadouken gi. Both were from, I think, Fusion Fight Gear. I just like the cool fact that they were hot. I didn't realize how much they sucked until I put an Origin gi on. I'm like, I'm never going back. No, no. This is amazing. The fabric is really soft, too, man. I mean, that they've got going. So I would go... The only... So I was at Valencia Brothers for a long time, five or six years. Before that, I was at the Popovich School. I was an American Top Team. I'm older here in Dallas when I moved here for a little while, then Machado when I moved back here. I'm a mutt, too. I've been all over the place. So it's like, the school has a gi? Awesome. I bought a gi there. And if not, I wore one of my bastardized gi's that I had that I bought on eBay for $30, where I had a top that happened to be an A3. Perfect. Cool. $30. Awesome. I'm going to bid $28 and whatever. And then I was like, oh, Origin. Yeah. Love Story, Love Jocko, all these other things. I'm like, let me pull the trigger. And it's like $300, you know what I mean? And at the time, the supply chain was trash. And so it showed up in 12 weeks, which was part of the allure. You know what I mean? These guys are so popular that they can't ship this out for three months. And still keep... They'll say... And people are like, yeah, I want more. I want more. Any jeans you don't have in stock? It's not. I'll give you my money for jeans I won't get for three months. Dude, it was so true. It's largely been remediated from what I understand. I haven't bought anything from them on their website in a long time. Could have been in Maine. But anyway... Did you go this year? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I remember that. I totally forgot. That was where it was just kind of like, I'm probably done. Yeah. You know? We could probably dive into our Origin experience on here, too, at some point. Let's do it. Yeah. We'll add that onto the queue. Yeah. But... We'll give you the real scoop. The real scoop, dude. Not the hyper-promotion because we don't want to go by ourselves scoop. I am confident there is an inverted FOMO. They don't want to go without somebody they know there. And so I think that's why the promotion is so heavy is they don't want to go by themselves. Yeah. I think there's an element to that. So back to the Origin gi. Yeah. I struggled over this decision. And when I finally made it, I thought, dude, this thing is going to be like a silk robe. And it's my first ever brand new gi. New gi. It's going to be amazing. It's shiny. You know, all these other things. And I put it on. I'm like, great. This doesn't look like $300. Whatever it is. But the pants, I'm like, I love these. Dude, the pants sold me. And I had the same experience. Yeah. I put it on the top. I'm like, okay. They're soft. And I put on the pants. I'm like, where have these pants been for the last however many years? I know, man. It's like rolling in jeans. You know? It feels really, really good. Yeah. You know? Like a pair of like really well-fit jeans. Yeah. And they're just like theirs are. And I've got jeans, with the exception of my Ian hooks, what I call them. Like the belt loops, in other words. Thank you. Because that's the only thing that's ever broken on my gi is usually when I train with Ian. It just rips it apart. Everything breaks with Ian. Yeah. Including my spirit. And my bones. Yeah. My soul. Ian Wooden, if you're listening to this, we avoid you intentionally. Because you will be lax-a-daisy while you beat us up. I don't think Ian has a phone. Good. I hope he stays off the grid and I can't see him coming. I don't think Ian has a phone. So demoralizing. He did it. He was the guest instructor. He doesn't have a social media, I don't think. I know. That's what I was going to say. He was the guest instructor for the Adidas and Jiu-Jitsu. And J.B. promoted it for him. That's right. That's awesome, dude. That's a trip. Which I loved that one. He's a great instructor. He is, man. He taught that system that he's, I mean, just like I've just been. The John Cena. Yeah, man. He calls it the B'zish. Yeah. And he's been trying to teach that to me for a long time. We match up really well. That's what I was going to say. You guys are similar friends. We match up really well, yeah, exactly. He's heavier, but I mean. Same game. Same game, yeah. And yeah, that's amazing. Once again, I mean, who is he? I don't know. Well, dude, come train. You'll find out. You'll find out real quick. The dangers of Instagram. He isn't on Instagram, so you're not going to see a highlight reel. Nor would you want to. Because he's so, I think the thing that's so demoralizing about him is that he's already four steps ahead of me whenever I do anything. Yeah. Like, he lets me take him down, and I'm like, why am I giving this to Weezy? Oh, yeah, man. He's given me a full extension arm bar before. Yeah. You know, several times. He'll let me mount. Give me a heel hook. Because he wants to work from there. Yeah. Like, he's so much better than me. He's like, I like it. And the back belts. Dude, I know, man. It's hard to explain, man. Yeah. It's really, really hard to explain that. And once again, I mean, you're not going to see it on YouTube, and you're not going to see it on, you know, anything else. But if you train, the first time I saw him train was with Mark Lorello. And, you know, anybody that's trained with Mark knows. He's dangerous. Dude, he is. And he's laughing the whole time. He loves it. Yeah. He loves it more than me, and I like it a lot. I know. Yeah, you guys are similar in that. Like, it's just like, I'm like, I'll hit you in the face accidentally. And I'm like, oh, man, I'm so sorry. And you're like, ha-ha, I love it. Yeah, do it again. Yes, I taste blood. I feel even better. If it isn't savage, I'm not smiling. Third percent, man. And him and Lorello went at it, dude. It was so crazy. And for those listening, Mark Lorello fights at 145, probably walks around 150, 560. Like, he's not a big guy. And I think Ian's probably in the 230s. Oh, for sure, yeah, which means 250. Well, he's naturally massive. Yeah, he is. He looks like a lumberjack. I mean, he's just a beast. He's a big guy. You can tell, hands. You know what I mean? It's like, man, that's, ow, like on my wrist, dude, you know? But anyway, those two just went at it. And I remember training with him that night. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, man. He's a regular at noon. And, dude, I'm just lucky that I even get to work with him. But anyway, yeah, Ian Handles, a.k.a. Belt Loops, are the only Achilles heel of the pro pants that I've found. That's right. And he's survived everything else. Well, the reason that the drawstring even exists the way it does in the other pants is because belt loops are problematic. But I'd rather patch a belt loop than. I cannot believe that those are actually competition legal, though. I'm glad that they haven't figured out that they shouldn't be. So you can't wear the web belt. Right. And I wear a drawstring when I train. Do you really? Yeah. I love the belt, man. I wear them with my jeans. So I have the belt in my fat. So I have my fat boy gi from when I was fat. And then I have my current gis. And I use the drawstring and everything but the fat boy gi. So the fat boy gi, I wear it in. I have the little web belt. But I train with the drawstring, so I'm used to it when I compete. Okay. I'm talking about, like, the string that I put into the belt loops of the pro pants. Yes. Do you feel differently when you have it? No. I just know that it's required for when I compete, so I want to train with it. Yeah. How many times does it come undone and stuff like that? Well, the reason that Formiga always makes sure we all get five rounds in is because there isn't going to likely be an IBJJF event where you have more than five rounds. And that's one thing I've always appreciated about Formiga is he's hyper aware of making training feel like competition, so it's just another day at the gym. It's just another walk in the park. I've been here a thousand times. I got my first tournament back, so it was weird. Everyone usually does tournaments, and then they start doing pro fights. I started doing pro fights and started doing tournaments. I decided I didn't want to get paid, and pay, because it's stupid. It's like, hey, you're getting paid to do this, but you should go and pay to do the same thing. Right. At a venue that doesn't even have a place for you to sit. You know, you get treated like a rock star at these pro fights, and then you go to this tournament, and they're like, hey, peasant, go sit in the bullpen until we call you. It might be an hour. Better yet, go stand in the bullpen. Yeah, there's nowhere to sit. Or lay on the concrete. Yeah, I know. Exactly. Worry about how your bag is doing. Right. Oh, it's not just me. There you go. No, man. This is an issue. Yeah. Like, Naukla's come and watched before as well, and I'm worried about her, you know, because there's a bunch of guys that are hanging around and playing grab ass and stuff like that, and I have to go get somebody to help knee and elbow her in to be able to watch her video or just see. I watched War Amiga's fight at Worlds through someone's phone recording, because I couldn't see through the crowd. I've always watched on there. Yeah, it's terrible. But we were talking about competition before that. Oh, we were talking about the pro camp. Yeah. So, for me, we'll keep everything like another day at the park, and so I just do my best to emulate. So, when I packed for Worlds, I used my gym bag that I train out of, and so my kids didn't know I was going to Vegas. They just thought I was going to the gym. That's funny. They were all like, wait, we didn't know you were going to Vegas. We thought you were just going to the gym, because I'm intentional with going to for Vegas is going to competition in my head. Not because I'm trying to kill my opponents in E-Roll. I'm super like, oh, hey, let's move. Hey, there's a guy over there. Let's move over here. So, I'm not in it, but I also wanted to be so rhythmic that I don't choke when it's a big venue. It's a really good thing. My first IBJJF thing was Worlds. It was World Nogi. So, I went from not going to any tournaments to the biggest one in the world, and for me, it was like, yeah, you're insane. You should have done some prep ones, and I placed third. I did great. But, yeah, that's one thing I appreciate about for me is that it's always competition relevant, and so that's why I use the drawstring. Yeah. All the way back to, I use the drawstring just so it's the same. One of the biggest issues that I've had, I don't know if I'll say one of the biggest issues, but a noticeable issue that I've had has been that I train my best at, first of all, I really like the mid-morning classes. Those are awesome, but the second, close second to that is noon. Noon is when my body's the best. I'm starting to get hungry by noon, and man, there have been times where I'm like, dude, I wish it was noon already because I'm ready to go. So, I could probably handle a 10 or an 11 a lot better than I can at noon, but noon is by far second best. By six, seven, eight, dude, I'm done. I'm done. I will go if it's all I can do, and for years, that's really what I did. Well, you also had a job. Yeah. I guess so. But, hey, I didn't like it, man. I don't like the way I feel. I'm not one of those guys who's like, man, I slept like a baby. I'm like, no, man. I didn't go to bed till night, and I didn't go to bed till 11 because I was freaking jacked because of training and whatnot. So, a lot of times, man, when I compete, I'm competing at like four, five, six o'clock, and it's been an issue. In the open class? In two years? Eight, nine. Whenever you get your black belt, which I think you've had your brown for a year, so about another year, black belt's go first. Yeah. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. Black belt's go first. That was a nice thing at Worlds is that I was done by like two. Is that right? Yeah. Finals, everything ran through. We're done. Both Worlds and PANS were early. I say early. I mean, it wasn't in the afternoon. Yeah. What's your next competition? I signed up for ADCC in Austin. You did? The open. Okay. That's right. I actually remember you talking about that. I just know that there's a lot of B team down there, and everybody and their brother moved and New Wave's down there, and so I'm like, I'm going to get some monsters in my division. I did it to force myself because I didn't want to. I don't want to say burnt out, but I competed a lot this year. I was really proud of myself for putting myself in a shark tank, so to speak. You did, man. You did. When you got your black belt, you were just like, let's go. Let's do it. I knew if I didn't, I wouldn't. Yeah. The longer it goes, the worse it's going to be, man. Exactly. I signed up for that one. It's in Austin, so it's a quasi-travel. It's a long drive. It's not a flight. Yeah. I'm going to just wait until I get some invites. I'll get some invites. Fights when I've done, I've always been entertaining. Seth likes me, so I'll get some good fights there. They're really good at matchmaking. All my fights for fight to win have been fun. I haven't gotten mauled by anybody, and I haven't gotten to maul anybody, if that makes sense. Smart promoting. It's smart promoting because we're the same age, same weight. With a reason. I ended up fighting Chris Shaw one time, and I met him. I'm like, you are not 215. The message I get from Seth is always, so-and-so name and the weight, question mark. It's a yes or no. I look at it, and I've just always said yes. One time, the weight was like 205. I'm like, I'm like 211, 212. I'm like, oh, man. You have to cut. It's like the week of. You can weigh in the day before, so it's not a big deal. That's a major difference, weighing in the day before. I go to shake Chris Shaw's hand. I'm looking up at him. His hand engulfs my hand. I'm like, you're not 215. I asked him afterwards. He's like, no, I'm 215. You weighed in at 250. You're a wrestler 215. Yeah, which means 240. 240, 245. Yeah. In terms of competition, I'm doing ADCC. If I 20 comes back, I'll probably do that. World's next year, probably not. I hated my Vegas experience. Is that right? Yeah. I don't like Vegas. I don't party. Yeah. Same. The guys there were- A lot of people party and stuff? Russell Roberts hosted the Airbnb. I say party. They're not crazy, but they want to go out. They want to play. I don't want to go out. I don't want to play. I came to compete. I don't want to leave. It was thousands of dollars to have one match that I lost by advantage. It's all this work that goes in. Even if I got all my matches and got a world title, which would have been freaking amazing, obviously. Yeah. That's a pretty big- The big commitment to no risk, no reward. It's true. I know that. It's true. It's a big stage. I got it out of my system. I know what it feels like. When I do go and do it again, I'll be ready. Yeah. I think I'm going to take this year off. Here's the thing. If I don't want it that bad, I'm going to be begrudging doing it. Yeah. I just don't want to do that. I'll probably compete minimally this year and then probably pick back up. Have you thought about going down to Waco? Last big IBJJF. No. The reason being was it was either or for me. It was either Waco or ADCC. Oh, okay. Is that the same weekend? No. It was my decision. I'm willing to- I want one more. I want one more this year. I picked ADCC just because they run about the same. ADCC is double elimination and IBJJF is single. I'm going to have at least two fights on ADCC. I run the risk at Waco of only having one. Yeah. It's a thin tournament, too, man. I kind of want to do it. That would be my last tournament at Masters 3. Like we were talking about earlier, you kind of look at my medals. I don't have any gold medals. We'll fix that in Waco. Lots of finals visits and all. I think my problem is I've never been submitted. No, that's not true. I've been submitted one time at Brown Belt. It was an E-bar. You know me, man. I play so conservative. I just can't get that out of my head. Tips? Yeah. Try harder? No. It's a problem I had, too. I went to camp and Alexi Pickerell rolled with me. I didn't realize how big of a deal that was until after. I knew he was in my lineage, but I didn't realize who he was. That's amazing. Yeah. We rolled, and it was a good roll. He goes, dude, you roll like an old man. You need to open up more. You're young. How old are you? I think it was 37, 38 at the time. He goes, you need to open up more. You need to move. I can feel. You can move. You need to use it. Take more risks. You can get out of a bad position. That's cool. That's good advice. I heard the advice, but I didn't apply it. I lost two fight to wins to people that I should have beat. I don't want to say they won. People always get so weird about that stuff. You know what I mean? I don't have an ego. I'm like, I should have won. They won. The judge said he won. Who cares what I say or he says or whatever? He won. There was one fight. I took him down, went for an ankle. He gets on top. That's what happens when you go for an ankle and miss it. Swept him past. Knee on belly. Had to choke at the end. Somehow I lost. Watching the fight, I was conservative the whole time. If I had opened up, I would have dominated. I probably would have gotten a submission. I haven't won by submission. No, that's not true. I haven't won a pro fight by submission. I was at one of your black belt matches. I think it was your first black belt match. Right. That's my favorite one, by the way. I know you don't learn anything from your wins. It's cookie jars in there. When it comes to not winning by submission or whatever, one of the reasons that I won that fight specifically is that I went in going, I don't care if I'm going to lose. I'm going to attack. It was a good judoka, black belt judo. That thing is instead of letting him... And you took him down. Yeah. My advice to anybody who has a hard time with that... Did you know he was a judo black belt before you took him down? Yes. You did, okay. Only because during the match... I knew because I've watched him before. I didn't. No, no, no. I didn't. James... I was in your corner. Yeah. James... Hell of a corner guy, by the way. He's a judo black belt. James Faulkner, well, he's got judo. He's got judo. I can't do a James Faulkner impression well enough to do it justice. He grabs my belt. I'm like, I'm going to get some frequent fire miles. I back up. I go for an outside throw. He tries to throw a re-throw. I knew after 30 seconds of the match. No. Okay. My game plan originally was a big fireman or a big double leg or a big outside single. None of that happened because he's good on his feet too. Yeah. But just recently, this week, so Tuesday and today, today's Wednesday, and I trained the last two days. Yesterday I had one of my best jiu-jitsu workouts in a while. It's just I'm now taking more risks. And no gi yesterday? No gi. I had a great day. I mean, me and Gi went. He's 235 and foreign boy strength. I mean, we scrapped. And he's like, it's because of the camera. I'm like, no, I was scrapping with you because you usually beat me up. He's so funny. He's so funny. He loves to talk trash. He does. He's so good at it. He's good at it. I mean, he really is. Hey, can I have some of those steroids? Can I have some? Some of his comments, man, they're hilarious. He made a comment about somebody yesterday. I guess it was like last week. He's like, I don't know where he goes. You look like you're going fishing, not doing no gi or something. The guy with the fishing shirt. Look who he had a fishing shirt on. Oh, me? Yeah. I was like, nerd. It was just funny because it was gi, man. He just says stuff. He just has no filter. But anyway, we had a scrap. And the reason we had a scrap is with gi, I've always been super conservative because he's really good. And he's really strong and big. See, there's big guys that aren't that strong. And you have strong guys that aren't that big. And he's got both. And he's been competing a long time. Since he was a kid. Yeah. And I mean, I took him down. He took me down. It was back and forth. And that's because I finally opened up. And I've noticed when I take more risks, three things. One, I usually close on my commitment, so to speak. If I say in my head, I'm going to try three things, I'm going to get one of the three. So I just commit to doing more as opposed to waiting and seeing what opens up. Two, even when I miss them, I'm doing way better because they're on the defense. And then three, I have so much more fun. Yeah, I know, man. I just got to remember this is supposed to be fun. Yeah, right. And I think the biggest thing is if you're not – I enjoy combat. Just the back and forth. I think what I liked about jiu-jitsu so early in my jiu-jitsu career was it was a scrap. It's a war. Yeah. There's offense, defense. There's strategy. There's tactics. And when I play a conservative game, I'm not enjoying myself. I'm trying to win, and I'm so hung up on not getting scored on that I don't score. Yeah. And when I do score, it's boring. Yeah. I end up passing. I end up inside control. I might get them out, but this is submission wrestling. You should be submitting people. Yeah. The whole goal is to get them to say, uncle. That's right. And I got an e-bar today, but it's a big – the spin around e-bar you got on me. Yeah. Whenever that was. It's my bread and butter move, and I never hit it. Why? Because it gives up your back. Yeah. It puts you in a bad spot if you miss it. Who cares? Yeah. So you end up in a bad spot. We're training. I know, man. And the scramble that comes out of this production. Right. And if I had taken – so I watched my two ADCC fights. So, I mean, the biggest advice I have to anyone who's got this issue is watch your film. You'll look at how boring you are when you're not open enough. I know, man. And lethargic. And it doesn't feel lethargic. It's just as much energy expenditure. I know, man. And if I had to do over again in either of those fights, I would have just taken more risk. Yeah. And I would have won both of those fights, because I won 0 and 2, because the ADCC rule set is the first three minutes is scored free to incentivize wild submission attacks. Yeah. Throw it out. Yeah. And what heavyweights tend to do is just wait. Yeah. Stall, stall, stall. Stall, stall, stall. Yeah. And if I had just opened up in those first three minutes, I probably would have taken them down, and I probably would have submitted them. Yeah. Especially with your conditioning. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I got to get over this. I mean, the conditioning has been an issue for me. I have really, really struggled with cardio confidence. I recover really well. Like, I can recover in a minute. Mm-hmm. Full speed. You know, even after a hard round, man. I mean, I really can. But, man, my tank is pretty shallow. And it's from lack of effort, you know, honestly, is what it is. Well, it's conditioning. Literally. And not focusing on those. I think we focus a lot more. That's why I spend a lot more time in Nogi. Yeah. I think we focus too much when we're strength training on training our muscles and not our metabolic systems. Yeah. And forgetting that when we train the metabolic systems, the muscles get to work. Yeah. So, my training changed wildly in 2020. So, 2019, I tore my pec. 2020, I sprained my wrist. And I went from a bodybuilding split to a CrossFit-focused type of workout. And all my little injuries went away. Haven't had a big injury since. Now, obviously, knock on wood, it's jiu-jitsu. Mm-hmm. I mean, like, someone could throw me wrong, and I get twisted up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my tank has been, I don't want to say endless. I was, after Gi, I was like, I hope I have an easy round after this. And I didn't get one. But, I mean, it wasn't Gi again. It's all that matters. I don't know if I've won a lot of easy rounds yesterday. There's easy rounds at school, normally. Like, even the blue belts are salty. I know. Especially in that class. Well, yeah. I mean, like, and Bailey was a white belt until, what, recently? I saw him walk in with a blue rash guard. I didn't know he was a blue belt. I'm like, really, dude? Yeah. I don't know about that. He fought in the arena the other night. Won by submission. Yeah, man. I mean, come on. I don't know about that. Yeah. But, whatever. Yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, if you follow MMA, Bailey King trains with us as a cross trainer. He's Will Campunaro. I don't want to screw up his name. I think that's what it is. Anyway, he fought in the UFC. Great guy. He's come and trained a few times. I was his mother his first UFC fight. I remember him getting ready for it, you know. That's cool. It's cool to see him at Campuzano, I think it is. Campuzano, yeah. Yeah. And so, anyway, Bailey King just started fighting in, I think, peak. I mean, fun to roll with. Is that where he's at? Peak? Yeah. Oh, cool. No, no, no. Fighting peak MMA. Oh, the promotion. Yeah. One of my favorite training partners, by the way, Bailey. So, if you're listening to this. He's athletic. He's super tall. He's young. He's strong. Yeah, yeah. Heck yeah, man. I know, dude. He is. He's 6'5". Yeah. And it's different. Yeah. There's not a lot of guys that are definitely that size. And he doesn't worry. He brings his hips up. He doesn't care that I'm going to double leg. He's just like, I got like eight feet to sprawl. Yeah. Like, there's plenty of room. And it's scary, because anytime someone stands, like, Hussam always gives me his leg. I'm like, dude, come on. Like, I'm not stupid. Right. Like, I'm almost insulted. And I say I'm insulted. Then I grab the leg. Yeah. And you usually get something fancy on me. I got a video sent to me yesterday of my role with Tanner. And I knew who it was. This is an example of what I'm talking about. Like, I was, I, like, dude, if Tanner will push it, he will push my cardio. And he will push me to the point where I lose confidence. 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