Backyard May 27th

In this podcast episode, Dalton Rickstraw talks about his experience in a horseshoe pitching tournament and discusses the topic of backyard horseshoe pitching. He also announces the winner of a t-shirt contest and shares his thoughts on Michelle Ford's work in social media and promotions. He mentions upcoming horseshoe tournaments and encourages listeners to participate. Hi, this is Dalton Rickstraw coming to you from the IE of California with the latest Court Reporter. I am a former World Horseshoe Pitching Champion and a five-time state champion. I have served on the National Horseshoe Pitchers Association Board from 2019 to 2022. I have seen and heard a lot. I have compiled a list of hot topics and created what this podcast is now called the Court Reporter, all things horseshoe pitching, from game play to rule changes and violations to interviews with the greats, everything you want to hear all coming at you in this next podcast for your enjoyment. 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After you do that you can take a rest on the newly christened Joe Farron Sitting Bench. Go inside and tour the Hall of Fame and Museum and after pitch some horseshoes. Donations can be made to the NHPF at www.nhpf.info and are tax deductible. Donate today. The Quail Ridge Horseshoe Club in Wentzville, Missouri houses the Horseshoe Pitching Hall of Fame and Museum. This is the world's largest horseshoe pitching club of over 200 members pitching in leagues and keeping the facility alive and well. This 32 horseshoe court facility sits in the heart of Quail Ridge Park in Wentzville, Missouri. Stop by today and pitch some shoes after viewing the Hall of Fame and Museum. The quails are waiting for you. Greetings all. Welcome back. Here we are with another episode as I keep telling you every two weeks with the Quarry Reporter. We have got an exciting, well I do, have an exciting podcast topic this week in regards to the backyard. Horseshoe pitching quote backyard style unquote and how it differs from sanction and how interesting it was. I had the opportunity to travel to Beaumont, California which is about 25 minutes, 25 miles up the road here from where I am in the IE and I had the opportunity to experience and play in a tournament over Memorial Weekend. But before we get into all that, again, thank you listeners. Thank you all for your positive notes on Facebook, positive notes and feedback, positive, I mean just everything. You know, it's been such a blast and being able to go to Team World a couple of weeks ago and hear everyone speak about how excited they were on Team World and how the podcast really gave them some insight on the tournament and how it all worked out. It's kind of funny because there were some veteran Team World players there that had come up to me and said, hmm, I never knew that I played, been a part of Team World and I've been in Team World for quite some time now and you brought up some things I wasn't even aware about, which was kind of cool and kind of fun and it was really good to get to Wisconsin and Beloit and sit down or well, talk with Jeff Secord and his father John and about Team World and about other things going on in the Wisconsin Horseshoe Charter and kind of just pick his brain a little bit and get some insight on, you know, things horseshoe pitching wise. It was a really great weekend and it was really fun and the action was a lot of fun. I think the highlight of my weekend was winning the toss against Wisconsin number one and matching up our team with theirs and I took the sacrifice and played the two-time and current Women's World Champion Sarah Chafee out of Wisconsin and shot a 72.5% game, 29 ringers out of 40 and lost by, I think it was 22 points. I think the final score was 5-27. Sarah shot an amazing 92.5% game against me, which stands to reason, you know. She's not the World Champion for nothing. She proved herself and she really didn't have anything to prove but she, you know, did her thing and did everything that she could to get it out there and hey, whatever works works, you know. But to that, I want to also announce that we have our, on the Horseshoe, excuse me, the Court Reporter Podcast Facebook page, I put out a little tidbit to everyone who liked and shared the post to, you know, you get a free t-shirt and a chance to win. I'll be the first hundred people who commented and stuff. So I'm going to go through here live, well, sort of live. I'm actually reading this on my phone as we speak but I'm going to go through here and I'm just going to randomly swipe and when my finger lands on somebody's name, they will be our winner and let's choose, let's choose this person here. Oh, looks like Matthew Strickland will be our winner of the t-shirt contest and the shout out here on the podcast and I will get him on the next episode and I'll give him a ring. So Matthew, he is a police officer for the, I think it's, what parish is it, Jefferson Parish or something down in, anyway, he's on the Morgan City Police Department in Morgan City, Louisiana. He pitches with us on the Horseshoe Tour. It was a random pick for his name. So congratulations Matthew, I'll be giving you a call or a text here in the next few weeks and getting all that situated for you. Other notes, you know, just kind of filling in the space here a little bit, I got to speak with Michelle Ford. We actually were roomies up at Teen World and her footage and her work with social media and promotions is impeccable. I mean, you know, staying with her in her room, seeing what she goes through, what she was doing to make the TikToks, to posting stuff was just astonishing. And I kind of joked with her one night, I said, Michelle, what is all this stuff plugged into the wall? And she says, well, when you're a good promotions director, you have everything in line, everything ready to go. She had battery packs, extra chargers, you know, holders for the phone. I mean, just everything you could think of. She had it and was using it and utilizing it and ready to go. So, you know, we definitely need to utilize her in the future and, you know, bring her in on some more things that would be beneficial to the NHPA, but also to local chapters. You know, I had Michelle on a couple episodes ago, which she was really, you know, gung-ho about helping people. And if your charter wants to get something going or if you guys want to see something, you know, definitely reach out to her again. But to see her in action and to see her work and to see her video and go live and all this stuff was just amazing. It was just so much work and the time and hours that she puts into it just so we can have a good experience. And I think Team World next year will be an even better experience with better players, more people, better spectating. I mean, it's just absolutely stunning what she has done, the work and the time that she has put in for that. I don't think I have anything else regarding Team World. Well, my friends, you know, Drew, Matt, Austin, Josh, we were all there. Had a great weekend. Congratulations to Missouri number one, Virgil McCown, Jenny Gagg, Jason Weiler, and Pam Meyer for winning that tournament. Definitely the underdogs in the tournament as far as going into that championship game. But congratulations to you all. Well-deserved, well-fought battle, and you guys came out victorious. Very great job. Congratulations. The Horseshoe Tour last weekend in Clarksville, Tennessee, saw another whitewash, or a waterwash, I guess I would say. I guess they were getting ready to play on Sunday and they saw tornadoes and ran for the shelter. I was not in attendance, I was here at home, relaxing from my week after Team World. And they did it. They did it all. It was absolute. They got it done. Some way or another, they got it done, which is fine, which is good. But we're now gearing up for the next stop in Austin, Minnesota, which will be in June. The date set for that is June, let's see here, June 22nd and 23rd, 2024. The deadline to enter is June 12th. Online registration is open at www.thehorseshoetour.com. You can check it out and hopefully we'll see you all in attendance. I know the Women's World Champion, Sarah Chafee, will be there. She's already signed up, her and her father, and it's going to be a good one. So now that all things considered, let's dive into the meat of this episode. And I wanted to discuss the backyard. When I say the backyard, I'm talking about backyard horseshoes, backyard style, backyard pitching. It differs a lot from sanctioned horseshoes. It's a very interesting concept. It's a very close niche group of people. It's amazing. I mean, well, let's take a quick break, let the sponsors come in and do their thing. And when we come back, I'll dive in a little bit more to this backyard style and what my experience was and let you guys know. So sit back, relax, and enjoy these few words. Announcing the fourth annual Josh Olson Classic in Bertha Open hosted by the Bertha Horseshoe Club in Minnesota. This tournament will be played at the indoor facility in Bertha, Minnesota with Josh Olson as the tournament director. You must pre-register with Josh at 218-639-4641, only accepting 48 entries for Saturday and 32 on Sunday. That's right, two tournaments in one weekend, $40 entry fee each day, high cash payouts, concessions on site, electronic scoring, and a guaranteed fun time and warmup that's great for the World Tournament. This is a great opportunity for those not traveling to the World Tournament to get out and explore a new venue closer to home. Contact Josh today at 218-639-4641 and get signed up. Hey everyone, Dalton here. I'm back. I'm kicking off this next episode regarding the backyard, the backyard style. This past weekend I had the opportunity to travel, like I said earlier, up to Beaumont, California, which is about 25 minutes up the road, 25 miles I think, and compete in what they called the 25th Annual Avila Horseshoe Memorial Weekend Tournament. And I'm impressed. I mean, I am so impressed. I have played a backyard tournament before, but nothing to this extent. Nothing to this, I guess, nothing to this nature before. And it was interesting. I was on Facebook and I had seen Dave I.E. do a video and I thought, oh yeah, they got a backyard tournament. I'm like, oh, it's Memorial Weekend. I think they have a big weekend. And I log on to HorseshoeWars.com and that talks about the backyard here in California. And I saw where, you know, 8 a.m. is check-in, 10 a.m. is the cutoff time, and 10, 30 a.m. is all the introductions. And I was just interested and so I thought, you know, it's Sunday. Memorial Day is tomorrow. Let me just go and check it out. So I leave the house and I get there and already I see the difference. Already I can smell the difference. There's tacos being cooked, burritos. There's quesadillas. There's, you can smell the good food. People have their RVs just lined up. You know, there's campfires. There's menudo being made. There's carnitas. I mean, just anything you could think of was mistakes, and let alone the people. I mean, I got there, you know, right at 10 o'clock, right when the cutoff time was before they took the walk-ons, and you could hardly find a place to sit. I mean, it was jam-packed full. There were probably 200, 300 people in this park for the horseshoes. And anyway, so I get there and I go up to the registration, and Dana's like, oh, welcome, Don. So glad you're here. And, you know, some of the sanctioned players that are there that typically play backyard more, like Donald George and some of those guys, you know, I checked in and he says, you know, hi, my name is, you know, Ben and Ramon. He says, okay, we'll take your money now. And, you know, I said, well, how much do I owe you? And he said, it's $60. And the first thing that crossed my mind was, oh, these guys are serious. $60 to play in this backyard tournament. I was like, okay, cool. So, you know, I paid him. I really didn't practice much. I was, you know, caught in the ambiance. I walked around and saw some players, saw George and Robert and some of the slow slingers and Frank Arroyo and, you know, just was really chatting it up. And then I saw Jacob and Mary Fembers from Arizona. They had their RV. They drove over. I walked over to their campsite and, you know, we talked. And Eddie Montoya from, you know, it was just kind of cool to see everyone. And I was just so caught up in the ambiance and everything that was going on. And, you know, I was like, dang, it's getting close. I probably should practice. So I went out there and pitched a couple of shoes. And there were only nine pits. And they're nice. They're very nice pits for a backyard. And there's sand or dirt, of course. He says, all right, you know, they're making announcements. And they got a DJ there. And the DJ's playing music. I mean, it's wild. I mean, I don't want to say wild, but it was nice. It was absolutely fantastic. You know, I'm walking up to a sanction tournament. It's quiet, laid back. People are, you know, casual talking, casual conversation. These people are living it up. They're talking. They're having fun. You know, they're drinking with their buddies, you know, and everybody's having a good time and everybody's relaxed. And there's no, I don't want to say guilt, but there's no reason, or I'm trying to think of the word here, for you to do good. There's no, you know, nobody's better than anybody else. Everybody was welcoming and nice. You know, there were a couple of people who I thought, well, you know, maybe I'm in the wrong crowd, but I guess you have that with everybody. But, you know, everybody, for the most part, was welcoming and nice and friendly, and it was good to see all my friends, like the slow swingers up from Central California, and, you know, some of these people down here. It was really fun. It was really interesting. I really enjoyed it. And then they started taking walk-ons, and if you don't register beforehand, you're considered a walk-on. And, you know, they're calling up the teams one by one, you know, like any walk-ons from the six shooters, six shooters come over. Any of the slow swingers come over. Any of the outlaws come over. You know, weekend warriors come over. You know, they're naming all the groups, and, you know, you walk on, meaning just walk in and sign up. You didn't pre-register or anything. But, I mean, it's going really good. I'm having a good day. I mean, it's really nice out, and, you know, DJ's pumping. They've got micheladas and everything. You know, I went over and had one with a Modelo, or not a Modelo, with an Ultra, and it was just a good time, laid back, you know. Where's your shirt with your name on it? Where's your shoes? Where can you, you know, it was kind of funny, you know. I'll get into this a little bit later in a few minutes, but my partner, they call him Chancla, you know, because Spanish for sandal. He pitches in sandals, you know, which is kind of cool. And I had a great time. So, you know, they're done with the registration. They get up, and they did the Hall of Fame for the year for them, for the Backyard, and, you know, they introduced everyone, and it was great. The ambiance was great. And about that time, the band was showing up. The band was, I mean, they had a live band with a stage there right up on the pits. It was absolutely, I'm in shock. I'm still in shock to this day. I'm not going to be able to cover everything in this short episode podcast, but I'm impressed. I mean, I'm thoroughly impressed, and I can really see the appeal for Backyard's style for players, you know. They don't have to worry about rules. They don't have to worry. These are the rules. These are the only rules they have. If you go to the HorseshoeWars.com, here's the rules. One, start on the game scoreboard side. Okay. Two, flip horseshoe to pitch first. Okay. Simple. One point is a horseshoe's length. Two points for a leaner. Three points is tip to tips without touching the stake. The games are to 21, and you must win by two. So if you're at 19, you play to 20. You know, 19-21 is good, but if it's 20-20, you've got to go over. So it can't be 20-21 or 21-22. It's got to be a two-point win. You've got to stand left or right of the pit at any time without crossing the foul line until the shoe leaves the hand. Follow the point on who goes first. So this is different from NHPA where, like a two-dead call, the person who pitched last will not go first. In backyard style, it's whoever scored the last point. So if I scored three and then we get two dead, but my partner went last, I'm going first again because I scored the last point. It's great. Payout was 70-30. Line draw, double elimination, 40-foot, and then all the pits are cleared for the finals. And that's their rules. That's what they got. Nothing else. Pretty plain and simple. They don't have to worry about anything else. I mean, it's great, you know. They use score-holio, and one of the rules was the host pushes the button to hit the pairings, and it was a great time. I got partnered up with D. Vader, but his name is Rudy. He's from the Six Shooters out of Chino. And he comes up, like I said, to see pitches and sandals. It was a great time, you know. We weren't out of all of our games. We lost the first one, 19-21, and then the second one, I feel bad, we skunked the players, 21-zip. And then the last game we lost 17-21. But we were out pretty early, but it was nice to sit back and see everyone. I was going to leave, but I stayed around, and I said, I'll just enjoy, see what it's all about, see everything. So I stuck around, and, man, I was impressed. There was so much going on. When you were out, people were still hanging out, having a good time. Mary made carnitas for lunch. We had carnitas, and then for dinner she made tamales. I mean, everybody was enjoyable, friendly, and it was a great time. You know, the tournament kicked off, and, you know, as we got to the finals, it was kind of cool. I mean, I have a video on my Facebook page of, you know, everybody going out on the court and, you know, surrounding that one pit to see it all, you know, to see everything, and it was stunning. It was absolutely stunning. I can't describe the experience because I think it's one of those things where you have to be there to experience it. And rightfully so, the backyard people have it going on. They have everything at their fingertips, you know, ready to go. They don't need a fancy court layout. They don't need a fancy this, that, and the other. They're content with what they have, and they go out there, and they play, and the score holder does a form, double elimination, boom, boom, and you're done, you know. So it's a great time. And the two gentlemen who won were from Arizona. And let me tell you something, these two guys were top-notch players. Some of these backyard players I know will definitely be contenders if they were to be sanctioned, definitely be contenders at the world tournament for some high payout. I mean, there's two, three that I could think of right now who would definitely give Alan Francis a run. And, you know, most people think, oh, they're backyard players. No, I've seen it. I experienced it. I watched it, and it's impressive. It is very impressive. I'm just shocked we don't do more with the backyard players, and it was kind of cool. I was speaking to who they call Benjamin Money, and he said, hey, I'm going to come out and, you know, pitch a sanctioned tournament. What do I got to do? I thank you for coming. I'm going to come out. Since you came out here, I'm going to come out there. And if that's all it takes, then we need to do more of that. You know, I'm going to try to make myself available for more of that style play tournament. It was great. And then the second round started afterwards. They had a first tournament, and they had a second tournament afterwards. It was a $20 buy-in, and I got it. Me and my partner, Reto, we were hitting. I was – I did what they call the Penny Stein Key. I was throwing a turn with Sniders because my partner was having trouble with the Ted Allens. I said, oh, no, no, we'll play with the Sniders. It's just fine. We'll play with them. And we made it through the winner's bracket. We were the number one team. We were in the hot seat going into the finals. We had to be double-dipped, and we did. We got it. We got double-dipped. It was bad. We made it through everything. And when you get to the finals, I just – I lost my touch and didn't help the opponent's swapped ins, but that's all right. It's what they're there to do, and they did what they did to win, and that's good, and congrats to them. But it was an experience. You know, I won $140. That paid for both tournaments and the gas and everything else. I was happy. I had a great weekend. I was thrilled. It took up my Sunday. I was nothing better than just to take a Sunday and just pitch horseshoes, just do things you love, do something you love. And I would encourage more people to do these backyard tournaments. There was a lot of sanctioned people there that I saw, you know, and it was just – it was wow. You know, I can't – I don't know what else to say about it. I just – I was so impressed and so in awe of the experience that I had. And that's what invites people back. That right there is what will bring people in, and that's how they can bring in so many people is because their experience, their ambiance, the things that they were doing keeps people going, keeps people there, you know. With sanction, it's very serious. It's very no talking, hush-hush, nothing. But with the backyard, they had a live band. They had music. Everything was going. It was great. I was shook, to say the least. Definitely opened up my eyes to new things. And here, like, I'll play this video, this little snippet here. This is the band playing during competition that afternoon. ♪♪ That was a little video that they did, and it was just a great time and I had a good time. We're getting ready for the finals, and then they played Santana, Black Magic Woman. ♪♪ Anyway, and as they're playing that music, people are crowding around the pits, scooting up, getting ready for the action, getting ready for the finals, and getting ready for the show that's underway. And that's the draw. That's the draw that we need. That's the things we need to look at. That's the things that we need to start, you know, being hand-in-hand, partnering with, looking at other things that these backyard players are doing that we could be adapting to. And you guys will have an opportunity to see some of these backyard players in action who are on the PHL, the Professional Horseshoes League on ESPN. Some of them will be at the World Tournament. And introduce yourself, you know, welcome them. It was stunning, stunning. Let me take another break here, and I'll be back with more backyard and how I experienced it. It'll be a short episode this week, but I think you'll get the gist, and we'll wrap it up, and we'll talk more. Experience and youth. Do these go hand-in-hand? Some of my opponents would argue that the younger people can't have the good experience to handle such a critical role. I would argue that I have just that. Successfully building and restructuring more than five small businesses, managing the value of over $2 million in customer revenue in my current leadership role and a decade in leadership and business management roles, I have the experience we desperately need. When experience matters, don't just vote for experience and time in office. Vote for good experience. Vote for a candidate with quality business experience. Vote Ben Lynn for NHPA President in 2024. I am back again, everyone. After that last break, had to get a little drink of water. My mouth was getting a little dry. But, yeah, talking about the backyardigans, as I call them, no disrespect to them, just the name. You know, finishing up this episode, I want to bring a realization to some of the listeners out here that, you know, although we all may see a little different eye-to-eye, backyard versus sanction, there is one goal in common, and that is to get players pitching horseshoes. The backyard people do draw a lot of participants. This one tournament had 92 teams, which is 184 players, compete on nine horseshoe pits in one day. 184. Over the weekend, you know, they had, you know, a lot of repeat business, but they probably had over 500 players compete in three to four tournaments, major tournaments. There were probably other, you know, six or more total, but that's a lot. There's a lot of things that we could be doing to partner with the backyard. But the main goal here is to get, you know, players pitching horseshoes and get the word out that horseshoe pitching is still alive and still active and still going. You know, there's a lot of bad rep when it comes to the backyard players. I know there's a lot of bad blood with some people, but that shouldn't deter you. Even though they play a different style or a different type of horseshoe pitching, they're still family. They're still horseshoe pitching family. I had, like, a great family reunion that past weekend, watching everyone mingle, watching everyone chit-chat with each other, watching everyone talk and hang out and be around each other. It was – I can't even describe it. And I keep saying that a lot. Well, I can't describe it. I can't describe it. In all seriousness, this is an experience that you need to have for yourself. This is not just some rum-of-the-mill, run-of-the-mill thing that people may have misconceived ideas or misconstrued ideas about the backyard where players just go, drink, have a good time, smoke. No. These people are fun. These people are friendly. They're nice. They're courteous. I just have no other words for it than amazing, stunning. And I wish we could do more for them, and in return they could help us. How do we draw more people? How do we compete? And I say we because I'm speaking from the sanctions side of this. But how is there a competition? How is there a comparison? With the ambiance and everything that I saw that past weekend, there was no comparison. Backyard won hands down. I mean, look, in a sanctioned weekend tournament, we can barely get 20 players to show up. They had 184 people come and play. And I'm not talking about from Southern California. New Mexico, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Northern California, Southern California, Colorado. These people came from all over to compete in a backyard tournament worth over $7,000 in prize money. Now, we do pay out that at the sanction level at the world tournament, but it's broken down to all the individual classes. But think about that. Coming down to a top two or a top three payout, that's impressive. These people do it just like sanction. I know that's one comparison that we do have is that you may come and get out early and may lose out early, but the fact of the matter still stands is that they're doing it because they love the game. They have respect for the game. They have respect for themselves. It's impressive to see it. It's impressive to watch it. And, you know, some of the best players get partnered up, like Rick Sepulveda and this man they call Blanco. They're pretty good players, probably both 50% each on both ends. They didn't win. They got out. It's impressive to see it work and see how it goes. But I know this is not your typical podcast or your typical something that you've listened to thus far, but I just kind of wanted to give my insight and my experience on the whole thing. And I know other sanction players have been invited and seen it firsthand, but this is something you really can't compare. You really can't, like I've been saying this whole time, you really can't feel or know until you come out and actually experience it. And I know the Western regionals at St. George, they're doing something about it. Come this November, they're going to have a backyard tournament before the Westerns. So they're going to try to draw in sanctioned players. How can we do this for our tournaments? How can we say, yes, let's have a backyard tournament and then hopefully they'll come and play in the sanctioned part of it. Let's bring in a $10,000 backyard tournament, bring in all these 180-something people, and then boom, there it is. I guarantee you if the World Horseshoe Tournament was to be ever, they talked about having it in Ontario, California, which is just 10 minutes up the road from here. And we live, or excuse me, I live in the epicenter of these backyard players. I guarantee you if we saw the World Tournament come down here in the Southern California region or Arizona maybe, St. George is still a little too far. It's been here before, but that's still just a little far. But if you put it right smack dab in the middle of the IE out here, I wonder what kind of numbers you'd bring in. You've got 300 to 400 people right around here alone that would sign up. That's over half of how many they have for this year. And they did a lot of repeat business with Bobby White Horseshoes Online. He definitely sponsored them and gave them a free pair of horseshoes. It was awesome. The closeness, the togetherness, the close niche of people that they have, it's all great. And as I wrap up this episode again, I know this isn't your typical episode, your typical hour-long episode, but it's just me. This is just me this week. I've been behind. I've been traveling. I've been doing a lot of things. I'm getting ready to go on a new assignment. I'm just trying to get things together, get my house in order. As they say, I've been cleaning my house. I had to buy a new car for my partner and just getting things lined up and getting things going. So I apologize for this being a little behind. I'm sure you all can understand. Life does happen and things do get in the way. But it is out there, and here it is. Here's the podcast, as promised. And, you know, let's see something. Let's see a wave of the future. Let's see something new. Check out HorseshoeWars.com. Check out their style of pitching. And don't be turned off by these backyard players. Don't, you know, do a side eye or a side, you know, whatever against them. These are some great people. It's just going to take some work winning them over. It's going to take some work bringing them into the sanctioned side of it. We're going to have to set a lot of rules loose to bring them in because, quite frankly, it was fun just to go out and pitch and not have to worry about anything. It was fun just to go out and pitch and not have to worry about finding a scorekeeper and X's and O's and putting in the data and counting. It was actually enjoyable. I enjoyed it. It's great. But to that, I bring this episode to an end. I want to do more on this backyard. I want to invite Dave and some of these other players maybe to come on an episode sometime and discuss the backyard style and discuss it a little bit more, go a little bit further in detail, you know, just figure it out. Some news for you guys. Next week or, well, I guess, yeah, next week I'll be traveling to my new assignment and I will be releasing a new episode and it will feature Ben Webb, who is the third vice president of the NHPA. He is actually a candidate for presidency of the National Horseshoe Pitchers Association. He will be joining me on the next episode podcast. And I'm going to do a little Q&A sesh. I'm going to have him in the studio. So send me some questions. Send me some comments or suggestions on things to ask Ben and, you know, what his plan is and where he wants to take this and where he wants to take the NHPA. Court Reporter Podcast at gmail.com. Send all that to there. As always, check out our Facebook page. Congratulations, Matthew Strickland, on our giveaway winner online. You know, it's going great. Thank you to all of our sponsors. Thank you to the Quail Ridge Horseshoe Club, the NHPF, Omega Horseshoes. Thank you to the Josh Olson Classic and Ben Webb Presidency. Keeping this podcast alive, keeping it running, and keeping it going. I really don't have much more to say. I'm looking forward to continuing this and enjoying it more with you guys. And if you could, send me some more suggestions. Send me some more comments on the things you'd like to see and hear. Well, not see, but definitely hear on the podcast. And we'll get it going. I bid you all farewell. And I look forward to seeing you on the next episode. So I wish you all many ringers, health, and good luck. And we'll see you in court. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Court Reporter. If you'd like to have a shout-out or sponsor a segment or have ideas or comments, please let me know at courtreporterpodcast at gmail.com. I'm Dalton Rake-Straw signing off. And until next time, I wish everyone many ringers, good health, and most of all, fun in horseshoe pitching. I hope to see you in court.