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Three millennials host a book club podcast called Young Adulting. One of them, Sarah, talks about her neck injury and her love for a local brewery's hazy IPA. They discuss their busy schedules and debate between bottle and box wine. They then discuss a young adult book they all enjoyed, sharing their thoughts on the characters and speculating about the plot. They particularly focus on the character Libby and her potential role in the series. They also mention the confusing family relationships in the book and wonder about the significance of a scar on one of the characters. You are listening to Young Adulting, a basic book club where three millennials read and discuss young adult books to try to escape our adult responsibilities. I'm Sarah. I'm drinking, it's a, it's a, a neid? I think I think it's nine in some other language, I don't know. But it's by Backwoods, yeah, I think maybe. It means in in English, it means mad respect. Actually that's it. It's, it's a mad respect, a hazy IPA from Backwoods Brewing, which is like a local Portland brewery. But anyway, that's what I'm drinking. And I'm trying to ignore it happened to me this week, guys, like, I was literally just sitting on my couch, like just sitting on my couch, and I turned my head to the left and it like, I'm dying, like something snapped. Like my neck is in so much pain. I think honestly, I think it's because I've been reading so much lately. And so like, I've just been like laying down. And yeah, I like turned my head to the left, and it is so fucked up right now. Like, it's really upsetting. So I'm reading and drinking to ignore the fact that I'm apparently 89 years old. Yeah, oh my god, it's so painful. And then I was like, Oh, well, maybe I can get some muscle relaxers, and then I can drink and then I'll have a really good time. But No, I mean, it also just happened yesterday. So I'm just kind of like existing with this pain. Do you have like a really busy day tomorrow? To look forward to? Like, at least maybe is it like a slower day? All of the It always comes down to right if it's bottle or box. Like that's the line I think between nice versus not nice. I'm gonna be honest, I feel like Christmas time is the time for wine boxes. Like just have a box of wine on top of your fridge at all times. No, some of them are pretty good. And it's like environmentally friendly. So I'm just being sustainable. No judgment. Oh, damn. Yeah, I was like that. That glass is so pretty. Oh boy. I see. I really, really liked this book. I don't know about you guys. I fucking loved it. It was like a perfect let like low stress, but enjoyable read. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also in high school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yes, it immediately. So did you guys see knives out that movie? It like the whole time. That's what I was imagining. Because even like, yes. That. And then do you remember like the Westing game, that book that like everybody that also I. Yeah. Oh, it's good. I mean, it's like a juvenile book, like 100 pages. It's it's very fun. Yeah. Me too. And like the puzzle. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. That was my first note, though. I hated it so much. I was like, I'm only 20 pages in and I'm so sick of this already. Really. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'll just say in my I hated when she was like, oh, I looked him up and he's faxable. I was like, come on. This is so stupid. No, there was one that was like bastard, like instead of saying bastard, she said like mustard or something like so dumb. It was just I didn't like it. That bothered me. Like genuinely enjoyed the book, but did not like that part of it. What is what did you think of her, though? Like the main character? What is her name? Avery. I agree. I liked her. I liked her a lot immediately, even when she was still like poor. Like her. Super smart. Yeah. I am I am going to always be mad that we never find out what grade she gets on the second physics or whatever. Like the whole time. I was like, I'm so curious because she takes the second test. I'm so curious. I did not. I need to know. I mean, I. Yeah, her test, because because I do really appreciate that. And I also like, OK, sorry to any listeners, like we're not bragging, but we were like top. The three of us were very, very smart in high school. I don't know what happened since then, but we used to be very smart. Yeah, we're fucking nerds. So cool. But I also do know, like, I remember being like doing the math like this is how much of a nerd I was where I would do the math like up leading up until the final and realize that. Yes, where I would be like, oh, I only need to get like a 36 in order to get a B in the class. And so I'm like, I don't like I would literally just go in and do like, see, like, I don't give a shit. Like, it's the least amount of work that I need to do. And that's what she was doing in the beginning. She was like, I'm going to just. Yeah, that's the most. Yeah, it was just super relatable. Like, I really liked that. Right. And just be perfectly average. Yeah. Like, because that's what she also said. She was like, I just wanted to not be like she just wanted to be a background character. Right. Like she talks about that. Yeah, like. Yeah. Yeah, she seems like a like much more of a loser than we were like we were losers together. Yeah. And then there's like mysterious father figure that's like not there, but still is alive. So her and Libby share the same dad, but not the same mom. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't have her phone number. Yeah. I mean, I really want to talk about Libby. I want to talk about Libby. I, I don't like her. And I fully expect. No, I kind of fully expect her to be like a bad person in this series. I mean, I guess. She's supposed to be 7 years older. So she's like 25 now. I think 2425. I mean, I agree. I don't think that she's like a bad person, but I think that she can be manipulated in a way that's going to be a bad thing for Avery. Same. Yes. No. Yeah. I think maybe I think. Yeah, I think maybe the problem is that because this is a young adult book, we don't get a lot of detail in their relationship. Like, all that we know is that he was abusive and she comes with a black eye, but we don't get like what was going on between the 2 of them. How long have they been together? Like, I don't know. It doesn't. He might. He does seem like an easy scapegoat. Like, I could see. Other people using him the same as I guess they used him in this as like. You're a dummy that will do something for 50 bucks. Like, yeah, go do this stupid thing. Yeah, I don't know. No. What so she. Go ahead. I was just going to say, so the 2. So, because this, I also kind of got confused by and I actually made a note about it is like, I kind of wish that at the beginning they had had like a family tree. Because I got a little confused by the family of it. Yes. So it's like sky and then Hershey has a sister Zelda. Zara, and they both got their debts paid off and like $50,000. Right. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot, but it's like compared to it's not. Yeah, so I suppose like. Okay. Yeah, they got more. Yeah. The security guy. Yes. Yes. Yes, well, they also got confused by, like, the ages of the boys, because, like, it was pretty clear that Nash was the oldest and Xander was the youngest, but I kept getting the other 2 mixed up. Yeah. Well, also like Xander, Xander and Jameson are still in school and Graham and Nash are out. So, like, okay, that helps a little bit. But yeah, there was like a whole part of it that I was like, like, I don't remember what order these boys are in. I know I made the same note. Yes. Yeah. I literally made the exact same note. I, the only thing that I could say is like, because he is somewhat significantly older, I think he's like 7 years older than that. So, like, maybe he had a different childhood. No. No, exactly. My note, my note is really dislike Nash. I can't tell if he's just written badly or what, but this cowboy thing makes no sense. He grew up in the same house as everyone, but acts like he's a cowboy? What the fuck? Like, that's literally my note. It reminds me. Or he had a cowboy accent. Yes. Yeah. The same thing happened in Sex and the City. Wow, I love Jennifer Coolidge. The same thing happens in Sex and the City too, though. Yeah. So maybe it is more common than we think. I don't know. I didn't like him. I did really like, I mean, I think Endgame is Grayson, right? Like, that's it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Male, man issues. Yeah. I also will say, it's like, okay, so ages. I mean, Libby's like 24, 25. I think Nash is like 28. Yeah. What I'm making is that like everybody else, they're like single together, like they're both single people around the same age. So of course they would. Yeah. I don't at all. No. I will leave it for a single second. Well. Yeah. So here's I made a note on page 154. I was so much older. I had an advantage. Jamie and Gray, they team up against me and then double cross each other at the end. A thousand percent that's foreshadowing like I would bet anything that that's exactly what's going to happen. They say it twice. They say on page 154 and then they say it again later. So I think that this is like what it is, is that Nash is on his own. Oh, he doesn't care, but he's also older. So he has an advantage. And for now, Jamie and Gray are working together, but they're going to double cross each other at the end. Yeah, I want to talk about Zander. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They also say that. For sure. Yeah, he's playing. He's for sure playing. There's no question he's playing, but he's just sneaky about it. And that's interesting because Jameson and Grayson are obviously playing, playing, like, following the clues. But then Zander always feels like he's a step ahead. Like, he is the one that, like, helped her. Like, reminded her of the middle names. And then, like... I agree. I can see it. Yeah, I don't like, I don't like Nash. I kind of don't like Jameson. I really like Grayson and I love Zander. That's my, yeah. I can see that. His introduction is him, like, yeah. Well, his introduction is him, like, standing on a balcony with no shirt on and she's like, oh, he's so hot, but he's drunk and he's going to kill himself. Like, yeah. I am really curious about his scar. Yeah. What do you guys think his scar is from? We still don't know. It's, like, from his collarbone to his hip, though. Like, that's a huge scar. Yes. Oh, let me try to find it. Yeah. She talks about it twice. They talk about it twice. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but don't, don't those things have, like, don't fencing knives have, like, like, it's not, it's just a knife. Yeah, here, on page 32, I thought, oh, he isn't wearing a shirt, but I couldn't keep my eyes from traveling downward from his face. His torso is lean, his stomach defined. He had a long, thin scar. Yeah, he had a long, thin scar that grew up, that went from collarbone to hip. Like, that's a huge scar. I don't know. There's something more. Yeah, she talks about it again later. Yeah. No, not yet. I mean, there's still two more books in the series, so I'm sure that we'll hear more. But also, he, like, runs around without a shirt on a lot. So, it feels like he wants people to see it. All right. Yeah, that is weird. I don't love that. I think he's going to be endgame. Oh, no. Yeah. Homegirl is thirsty. Yeah. I appreciate it, too. I was going to say, it's very Emily of her to go back and forth between these two boys. I don't know. It does seem unlikely. So, the chain of events that night, right, is that Grayson breaks up with Emily, and then she goes to – Jameson breaks up with Emily, and then she goes with Grayson to Cliff Jump. I don't understand that. Yeah. Well, and maybe be, like, mad that she didn't know, because this is like, you're my best friend, and you couldn't tell me that, maybe. I agree. And why was it that Jameson broke up with her that day? See, there's something. There's something that happened. Yeah. No, because he had pictures. Yeah. Yes. Yes. The second. I mean, ish. Like, we know what area he was homeless in, but that's kind of the whole point is, like, he might not be there anymore. And she just gave money to him, right? That was, like, the only thing that she spent money on. Yeah. I don't know. I'm, like, so stoked about the next – Maybe. I mean, what do we know about Toby? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And all that we know about Toby from when he was alive, he was as driven as Jameson, right? Because they, like, say that Jameson is similar, and that's why he was, like, the heir apparent. Oh, okay. See, this is why I kept on getting them so confused. Anyway, one of them is, like – so what we know about Toby Jr. is just that he was, like, very driven and lived life to the fullest. We don't know a lot about him. I don't know, but I'm very intrigued. But I'm, like, so excited for more. That's the thing is, like, I finished this and immediately wanted to start the second book. Like, I'm invested. I really, really like it. Oh, my God, yeah. That's – they did the testing. Yeah, I don't know. And he made his money – oh. How did Tobias make his money? Just oil? Like, how do we – do we know how he made his money? Because maybe – like, maybe that's it. I don't know. I – yeah, I don't know. There's definitely more to the mom that day, the Emily thing. There's more to the Emily thing for sure. And then, obviously, the Toby Henry thing. Yeah, and the dad. Maybe. I lost my son. Yeah. I don't know. I kind of think no, because the other – like, the middle names were on purpose. So I kind of think that Tobias did this. It's not random, because he knew – he already knew the mom. Like, there's something about her birthday. He already knew them before that. Wait, so when he circled – when he circled the name on the birth – we don't find out at that point even what the name is? Do you know what page that is? What page did they talk about that? Because, yeah, that's what it's like. Why her? I don't know. Yeah. I would agree with that. That, and then – I mean, it is a juvenile book. But I also didn't love – so this book came out in 2020, and I looked it up because there's a lot of, like, I'm not like other girls, like, pick-me bullshit in this book that bothered me. Like, her whole, like, makeover, where she's like, oh, I'm so cool. I hate dresses and, like, don't care about makeup and hair. I was like, fuck off. Like, come on. Like, this is a very obvious part, and they did it multiple times. Like, it bothered me kind of a lot. Like, oh, yeah, you're so special. You don't – you're the kind of girl that doesn't care about hair and makeup and clothes. Fuck off. Yeah, that too. I don't know. Maybe it's just – yeah. I think probably I'm just sensitive to it because of fucking Sarah Moss, and we almost made it through a whole episode without talking about it, but I'm bringing it up. I love in A Court of Thorns and Roses, like, how fucking Tamlin wants her to be this, like, wear dresses frilly girl, but, like, Rezand allows her to be the dress girl but also the badass. Like, you don't have to choose one or the other, and so, like, to read another book where it's like, oh, she's such a tomboy. She doesn't like dressing up. I just – I kind of roll my eyes because I think it's, like, much more normal for girls to be both. Like, sometimes I want to be girly and dress up, and sometimes I need to get shit done. Yeah. Exactly, and so it just makes the character feel very, like, one-dimensional because it's not – it's not one or the other. Like, you can do both, and so it rubbed me the wrong way reading it, and, like, again, I had to look – I was like, maybe this book was written, like, earlier, and so they don't, but no, it was written in 2020. Like, this is a very modern book that still has these same fucking tropes, and it bothers me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Maybe. Honestly, yeah, there's a couple, like, phrases and verbs, like, words that I never hear humans say in real life, but is in almost every single book. Like, padded – like, oh, she padded down the hallway. Literally every single book. Like, every single book they say that, and never in a single day of my life – no. Like, oh, I padded down the hallway. That's not a thing, but it's in every single book, and so – so maybe it's just that, you know? It's just, like, this is just a thing. I don't know. I agree. I didn't love that. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, she does, I think, have, like, a flip phone in the beginning, but – Um, I also, before we move on, I do really want to talk about her bodyguard. I fucking loved him. Oren? Yes. I was gonna say – I did just say – I made that note! Yes, that's what I imagined, is the guy from Princess Diaries, the whole time. I don't know, but same. Yeah, I fucking loved him. Yeah, I literally wrote – oh, yeah, same. Yeah. I don't. Yeah. No, I don't. There's something that we don't know about her. Yeah, it's not like they just walked, like – Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Honestly, Google exists. She also seems – she seems a little, like, technology-avoidant in general. Like, she doesn't really look online. Like, they had to tell her, like, have you looked up what people are saying about you online? Like, she doesn't – I don't know. Yes. Her school does seem pretty fucking dope, honestly. That seems pretty great. Yeah. Yeah. Her guidance counselor, when – the guidance counselor was like, what are you excited about? Like, what do you want to do? We can help you create a curriculum. And I was like, yeah, carve it, that exact face. I was like, holy shit, that's not what high school is. Like – No, no, no. They have a six-day schedule, but it's, like, not on weekends. Like, Monday. Like, the following Monday. Like, it's six days of classes, but it just rotates. Yeah. I mean, I assume – I don't know. I do love looking up dreams. This is, like, a complete pivot, but I had a dream once that, like, I was – I was in line, and I watched all of my friends from school – not you guys. It was weirdly, like, elementary and middle school get crucified in front of me. Like, I was in line – yeah. It was, like – yes, it was so intense. And then, like, the dream ended. No. No. But I know what episode you're talking about. No. And then it ended, like, I was next in line, and it was, like, the nail was about to go into my hand, and I looked up what it means – like, fucking psycho, right? And it ends up, it's like, you feel like everyone's talking about you. Like, I had to look it up, because that's, like, the most – I know, right? Dreams are so scary. Sorry, that was, like – it was such a pivot, but I had to talk about it, because that was, like, such a crazy dream. I know. Talking about dreams – or about friends from school, what did you guys think of Max, other than the stupid not cussing? Same. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I mean – I mean – Yeah. Yeah. Well, when she was, like – yeah, but when she was, like, oh – yeah, and when she was, like, oh, do you know about me and my boyfriend? She was, like, oh, Jared, Jack – like, she doesn't even know what her boyfriend's name is. Like, that's – yeah. And that's from before. I just – Like, Avery has one friend. One friend. And she can't even remember her friend. Like, that's not – that's pretty bad. Maybe. I don't think that that's true, because we were in her POV, and we did not get that, but – I don't know. I kind of – I kind of just – I think I don't really like Avery. I think I just don't really like her. She – I liked her, like, initially, but then, yeah, the, like, not-like-other-girls bullshit bothered me. This Max thing bothered me. Her, like – No. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. And, like, the whole – I mean – Yet. Yeah. Same. And I feel like she's a bad sister. Like, Libby is clearly going through something. Like, I don't super trust Libby, but I think the reason why she went and, like, maybe is falling back for Drake is because she has nothing else. Like, she moved to Texas for her sister, and then they just don't talk, even though they live in the same house. Like, that's crazy. Yeah, not very long. It's just, like, a lot – I know, but also – this works. But also, like, Libby – Uh, she – Libby, like, moved for her. 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