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The conversation reflects a deep exploration of the impact of pornography on human senses and spirituality. It delves into the necessity for individuals to reconnect with their senses, highlighting the powerful and intense experience of watching pornography. The discussion emphasizes the need to acknowledge the profound impact of this force, leading to a reevaluation of human potential and the importance of understanding and harnessing one's godly creative power within. The dialogue also touches on the concept of the soul's connection to sexuality and the primal urge for endless expression and experience. This is part two of our conversation and I have to say since last week my head has been on fire. I was just saying, I said my head, but actually my heart's been on fire, the senses have been on fire and what last week's conversation did for me and this will come as no surprise to you is it aligned me, it awoke inside me, what a vital and important and rare thing I'm doing. And maybe for people out there thinking, you know, a therapist doing deep practice is obvious, but no, there was what I'm involved in, what I could bring over time, was that embodied awareness, embodied empowerment, which I bring, had faded from my conscious awareness. My position within the fight, within a global fight, my rare capacities, and I'll refer back to what I mean by rare capacities, wasn't something which I was carrying with me prior to last week and last week did that for me. Okay, Yossi, so we met last week, we had a very, very fruitful conversation. By the end of it, we were cut short because we went on late into the night, but I was thrilled by the opportunity to come back with you again and hopefully this can be a conversation in its own right and shed more light on this, you know, covered up, but rich with concepts that we want to share with the world. Yeah, I'm so excited. What I came away from last week, besides feeling firstly empowered, secondly a man on a mission, and one of the things which came to me during the week was that we've got to give over this vibe which we had in the first session, which we carry around with us, which essentially is the hopefulness, the empowerment, which we give over to people we meet, people that are in need. We give over that empowerment, that encouragement, that belief, that needs legs, that we need to mine that and give it over to the best of our ability, because when I came away from you last week, I was like, wow, I'm so inspired by how incredibly confident you are in our generation's ability to overcome this challenge. And I want to, and I myself, I want to come back and ask more questions because I want to, I want to feel that confidence to the extent that whatever I, whatever I'm doubtful, I could go back and remind myself of that confidence, but not just the feeling, because unfortunately feelings sometimes kind of wear us down, and we don't want to feel that confidence. I want to have such a clear grasp in that confidence that I can always tap it back into it, and I always tap back into it, always bring it up for myself, bring it to others. So I need to ask you again, that confidence which you have, what is that confidence? If I was able to articulate it in a perfectly framed way, I could say it for a billion years, if I was able to articulate it in a perfectly framed way, I could say it for a billion dollars, maybe. But the truth is, I think that confidence is through the trial and tested. I didn't ask where you got your confidence from. What is the confidence that you have? What is the confidence? My confidence is that this struggle that our generation is going through is going to be the very vehicle, the very mechanism through which we achieve a collective revolution of what it means to be human, what it means to be in relationship with one another, what it means to be in relationship with life, with the source of life, with Hashem, with God, to really understand the intensity that's going to be through this struggle, through this darkness which has spread so far and so wide, that is my confidence. So where I see it, where I see it rear its ugly head around me, I also see there's the opportunity, there's the space, there's going to be a beautiful place in the world in time to come. Whether that's an individual or any other environment. So what problem is pornography coming to solve? What was wrong? In what way was the world heading that pornography had to come to solve that? The world has become a senseless route. It has become, in my opinion, far too unstructured. Humans have thought this is the way. This is the way to hold relationships. This is the way to progress in life. This is the way to build the world around us. This is the way. And pornography comes and it's a cancer so strong that it breaks everything down. It deconstructs and dissolves so many of the structures we bring up in our lives, internally and externally. And what's the problem with the construction? That it was not what the human was meant to be. The human was meant to be this intensely vibrant, expansive being who every breath, every touch was uniting worlds together. The whole, in Judaism, the whole of our service in this world is to constantly unite heaven and earth through even the most subtle of acts and to be conscious of it and to recline in the ecstasy of that. And that is what we forgot and this is going to break down all of our senses so that when we rebuild it and we go through that hard, hard work of rebuilding it will be integral and complete. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Essentially our senses were being erased then along came the atom bomb and the erasement of senses to get reconnected to our senses in a way that we had never that's absolutely brutal that's now we are forced to get back in touch with our senses through sheer determination. I said it I think the last time we spoke but for the layman spirituality is a luxury but for the addict it's a necessity seeing as we are all spiritual beings and we are meant to live in that spiritual realm we are being forced by this force now, there is no more layman anymore because this is everywhere it's forcing us all into this corner of now you have to show up fully because otherwise you know there is going to be nothing left I just want to clarify that from you that it's not just what we need to do but actually it's through the pornography it's because unfortunately in this day and age everyone everyone is being affected everyone is either watching pornography or coming across very similar stuff just from living in this current world so it's not just that we have to be so strong and so in touch in order to prevent but rather we actually need the Nafila and obviously I'm not advocating for anyone to choose Nafila it happened and I'll just say it in English falling, succumbing, watching it happened and it's going to happen we don't need to pursue that but through that happening we have to fight back and that fighting back is no longer a fighting back just to get back to where we were prior to the fall it's a fighting back with a new sense of who we are who we can become pornography gives us that sense people listening may have their eyes raised like how does pornography give that sense and the answer is because the pornography touches us opens up such power and you feel the power the power of how far pornography could take us away and all of a sudden that's how far we've pulled the Nafla spring back double as far yeah absolutely your letter writes about actually having seen actually having not just contending with pornography but but having pornography have dug the pit yeah this was that yes attempt to assume that very place that this actually gives you the power it's not that we're encouraging it it's that we are acknowledging what this force has taken and we were speaking about why it's necessary when I was thinking about this part of the lesson you said a lot of my work comes to mind because the first thing to notice after having watched pornography is just what what an intense experience it was I think most people have to go back to the first time they watched pornography to really bring it to life its full force what this experience is and then and then when you appreciate that power you know, you get a sense you get a touch of what is inside us because most people live in a very drummed down feeling world and sometimes all of a sudden they are solitude in their bedroom in the bathroom they experience something intense what is that experience how do you understand what the emotions feel like what is it in truth you can't explain this without prayer you can't explain this without Kabbalah you can't explain this without a deep understanding and even without a deep understanding but without a deep belief our sexual urges are one of the closest things to our soul speaking its like right up there with music its right up there with the deepest of expressions because I think one simple way of capturing it is realizing that sexuality I think we touched on this last week that sexuality is our ability to create to become partners with God and therefore that power when you feel that power, don't think of it as the biggest proof that I am an animal because I hate to break it to you, when animals engage in these things, they are not experiencing what you are experiencing they are doing it for as animals, we are doing it as human beings and as human beings that power is actually a godly power its actually a connected power, a power which stems from our soul and yes unfortunately in this instance it's being channeled into something which is artificial, which is fake or which is outside the vessels which is meant to be contained in but don't don't sleep through it notice it take note of it and say wow this is the power of creation that I hold, this is the power of creation that's within me so do you want to come in here? from what I heard, from what I learnt that what this charge is is part of our soul it comes from a place called Tohu which is the whale of chaos before the world was created in finite form and that world knows no bounds it wants to experience the raging fire of existence in every possible dimension and direction and it violently rejects restriction it just wants endless expression endless noise and that this is what the individual taps into and they engage with this force which so swiftly deconstructs and dissolves all the boundaries of life as we know it all the taboos of life as we know it all the social standards as we know it and that's what invites the soul in with such an intense ferocity and lust that finally that power has tapped into that primordial primordial innate desire I don't know if innate is the right word but that primordial desire of that all-powerful capacity in these things we can just browse across dozens and dozens of people and places and spaces and experiences in such a confined space in such a short period of time it really really opens up this immense capacity that we won't find anywhere else in life yeah and that power of that urge for most people for almost everybody is a massive point of shame why do you think that is? because they feel like such animals the bigger the urge they feel the more proof they have that they're animals and don't I know this sounds blasphemous I'm telling you this is what I see day in day out people say I am watching pornography I am overcome by this urge and really I think what should be pointed out to these people is how incredible that you can experience such an urge in life of course this urge is being directed towards the wrong way but where else across your entire life to experience this ferocity of emotion and this intensity in a way which keeps you so committed to something even if it's so destructive imagine if we could re-harness this force into positive and juiced areas of our life you should be amazed and awakened and alarmed at how silent the rest of your experience has been I'm not at all surprised that an individual could fall into this and sit there for such a long time it's giving them such expression in a way that nothing else in their life is who's teaching us how to live and love terror or our relationships or the world around us as intensely as we love porn no one and that's what we need and that's what's being hidden here and that's what porn is forcing us to remember it's forcing us to remember a certain intensity to life and to experience and if that balance is not maintained and if that natural state of being is not garnered then this force will come raging through because it can't be contained it has to be channeled in some direction or another and this channel it's not like some time in the future when I sort this all out, when I get clean, when I get pure I'm going to fight those mountains I'm going to climb those hills I'm going to be a godly man full of vibrancy of life no, it's actually the very next moment, the very next pillar the very next prayer when you are engaging in that when you are I have this analogy which I always say and let's say it has two forms let's say you're driving a car and then you muck up you take a long turn, you hit something or you have a near crash and then you're feeling that intense regret and that intense shame, and what that shame is doing if we play it out, it's taking out of the driving seat and saying you, you bad driver you reckless bastard get out the driving seat because the thing is, we're human beings the accelerator is still to the floor and all you're doing is putting yourself in the back seat with the car driving I used to have this as a recurring dream at some point wow to be in the car that you have got control over yeah, and I somehow like I somehow meant to be driving from the back seat and the next moment, get back into that front seat you have a living soul inside of you which is driving, which is moving you crash, but you better avoid that pile up because that's going to be far more catastrophic, you know keep moving and when you do the brave when you have that recognition there is no one else driving this car besides for me and I may be the most dirty person at this moment of time if you want to concede that even if you want to concede that I may have made the worst mistake I have to be brave my purpose in this world my Godly commandment at this point is get back in that seat you are being you are redeeming yourself in that moment because you are you are accepting the very next commandment from God, which is get back in get back on the driving seat Darwin, concentrate don't stay in the back seat don't let yourself be pulled from the back seat you have no business in the back seat you have no business, it's your life it's your mishmash which will be given to you you only have a role in the front seat and the second you listen to that the second you listen to that you grip that steering wheel and all of a sudden you feel that's exactly where God wants you to be and then we understand the meaning of who wrote Salva Shabbat that we have a charge and then it stops and it means that we don't have in Judaism room for unheld attachment to the past there is always the next moment of carrying on, carrying through that moment taught you the lesson of that moment and now this moment has a commandment of how to move forward with the lessons learnt there is never a place to just sit in the shame and let the accidents pile up because of it yeah, yeah and you know all of this, everything we are talking about all the deeply empowering messages they are not for after you masturbate they are not for after you watch porn after you watch porn, after you watch masturbate, the one thing you need to know is get back in that driving seat continue driving your car your brain is in darkness now most of the thoughts you have at this point in time will be darkened don't try to think light thoughts don't try to cite light thoughts or dark thoughts just do what God wants you to do at this point which is be back in the driving seat it's so hard to just say everything right now is blackened and darkened and it's ok and I'm going to still keep moving I'm going to sit here in the black and dark until it gets light again and then I'll mourn over the time lost and the energy lost and the fallen state and then I'll start again no, it's in that dark space it's in that hole, in that void the whole experience it came about to teach you it came to teach you, learn how to move on from that place learn how to feel that frustration and that resistance and that strain on life again because that's what we're trying to access here we're trying to access what it really means to be here and being and we can only experience it in such a pressure cooker and one amazing thought just came to me I'll just take it in a process as you've seen I thought to myself wait a minute what this means is that part of the challenge Shashank gave us in this generation is the challenge of getting back in the grand seat so that's part of this whole thing which you said before redemption we're going to need pornography, part of that is knowing how to stand back up and brush yourself off and move forward how is that essential? and the answer just popped into my head that means to say we're taught how to do chuvah on a daily basis we are any person who's surviving this battle needs to be really good at this chuvah stuff this chuvah stuff has to be in it it's the relapse and move forward and we're all going to have these moments you can walk down the street on any summer day if you're someone who's not watching pornography you can have a relapse by walking down the street on a summer's day and just seeing what's around us nowadays and you have to know chuvah, everyone has to know chuvah yeah and to chuvah it's a return to consciousness it's a return to being back on the driver's seat and what this generation is having to overcome now and what this pornography is acting as a backhanded force in order to push us to that place is if I could put it in a simple phrase falling out of the dependency of instant gratification falling back in love with hard work and resilience and focus because we've forgotten that that is where life is most truly lived life is most truly lived in that march, in that walk in that constant movement in that, you hit the car crash and you kept going what we've got today is we've got the absolute plague of dependency on the now, on the moment and pornography is going to keep pressing a button until the whole system breaks, collapses and fractures and then we say and fractures and then we say wow, this really wasn't working for us and then we can begin to move forward I want to touch on something which is really close to my heart we're talking about this Godly urge and we're saying thank God you have this urge it means that you're connected to God there's a section of people who never get spoken about who never get given the answers and they have a really burning question if they listen to us now or they've heard similar messages in the past their shame feels unredeemable because their urge is is for deviant ways what I mean to say is that if your urge is to have a heterosexual relationship, then you could say yes, my urge is for marriage my urge is for creation, you could listen to our message but what happens if your urge is for same sex what happens if your urge is for some of the different genres of fetishes which you can learn about either through searching not advisable, searching on Google or you can actually search for a quick summary of what they are for the BDSM for the fetishes for the all the other different dynamics including same sex etc and all those urges they feel they feel unredeemable right, I understand and I think yeah, I mean before we dive into what we would say to such a person let's just really acknowledge how intense that is because seemingly there is no language to redeem such a person because like you said with all these things we can say oh it's holy energies in disguise that need to be flipped, transformed and elevated really it's just your deep desire to bond with your partner to build that home, to build that space which we all know is the roots of our tradition, but for this person there is no map, there is no way to reunite it back to that place, seemingly seemingly I heard this from a brother from America the place of America, not the Rosh Hashanah and he said the tragedy of someone who has same sex attraction in the Jewish world is a real tragedy I just have to give words to how deeply painful that experience is to never be able to permissibly experience the deep urge and they feel that they have to hide the urge and they can never have any way of doing anything which connects, which answers that urge and for many people they have questions in their mind around this it's very the pain of someone with a same sex attraction with a fetish which is deviant in nature the pain cannot be it doesn't get spoken about enough and I'm telling you it's really really deep and they feel incredibly lonely in that place and this came back to our discussion is we had a conversation about how redeemable all of that is and I'm sure if you're someone with this, you've seen this is unredeemable and I want to speak to you I'm pausing because as I say it, I'm feeling the weight of how desperately lonely the experience is I don't want to say words which are too weak for the experience but it's something which I need to say it and I beg forgiveness if it's insufficient because it's something which has to be shared the fact is that every sexual urge comes from a deep place, deep expression and expression itself is a godly gift animals have a god expression humans do Jews have a high level of expression which only we have and if it's a sexual urge know that it's expression of something very uniquely you and therefore very connected to your Neshamah, to your soul and when you ask the questions when you sit with these urges, when you break it down to the Manush Titha to the places where they come into life you start to experience a very unique, deep story of Neshamah expression which was so powerful and so deeply connected to the soul that the only way it could be held was through sexualizing that expression and I'm sure that I think this needs a bit of explaining so maybe I'll give an example I will need to feel desired I need to be someone for whom other people have a deep desire to connect to and to receive from and to give to that is like the truest expression of ourselves as godly beings as people who are worthy of love, worthy of giving love often that expression our capacities to connect and our capacities to be human enough for people to desire us and want us and to want to be desired by us are stunted by our traumas, are stunted by our experience of the world, by the chaos which we've been entered into enter sexuality and it puts it into a coded expression which can be experienced daily can be fantasized about daily and somehow that deep longing and expression is getting, is being kept alive because god help us if it dies it's too holy to die until the time when you have the bravery when you have the godly calling to say I'm not listening to the darkness which says I'm unredeemable I am going to redeem this I am going to pass through the deep dirty murky waters, I'm going to find the jewels at the bottom of the ocean I'm going to connect to myself through all that darkness and I can tell you from personal experience from people I've sat with in the room from people I've sat with in groups the deep expression that deep connection which lies under these dark places and the darker the place the deeper the expression underneath it is the most holy godly thing and may you all experience what I'm telling you about and I hope that the feeling in my voice and the experience I carry about this carries through Wow You speak about holy just to be in the room and witness you entering into that space in your mind as you just started to pull out that deep fountain of knowledge it was holy to watch you look like a man possessed and I'm so grateful, so grateful to be part of that and yes, I echo the sentiment the deepest place I can express it and it's related to what we were saying before that our souls have got a storyline and there was an earlier space before the creative world of just fire and connection and expression in every possible dimension and in this day and age where so much is constructed and so much is built it has been codified and inserted into the hearts and minds of those of us who simply can't stand in the monotonous and simplistic and false ways of life and so it shows up and manifests in these deep urges, these deep desires which just constantly penetrate through the curtain of the world around us as we see it and it is not something to be squashed and shoved to the side or to be shameful about, it's something to be treasured and elevated and admired that it can still survive in such a world that suppresses such things now, of course, there is the question here behind all this which is we've given a lot of affirmation and a lot of validation to these individuals I count myself as being one of them I'm sure you do too in your own respects but then what do we actually do? Right, we have a codified book of Torah law and it has all these different ways of saying this way and not that way, not because this is bad, this is good, but because just like in mathematics or in music the more formula, the more definition, the more the harmony, the more the symphony, the more the successful implication of an idea what do we do? What do we do about that? Where's the direction? Where's the manual? We have that commandment a man shall not do this, a woman shall not do that a couple shall not do this so what do we do with that fire? What are the actual steps? Here I am, I'm sat in front of you in your office you'll see what I'm saying, I hear you I'm self-aware enough to tap into this energy in me and I'm ready to not manipulate, but walk with the fire, what do I do? It's a hard question but yes, it's the root of this whole experience I'm hearing your question I really want to do the right thing I want to do the right thing because I want the real thing you know, the fullness of life I woke up on the ship where have I come from, where am I going, where am I right now? Fine I'm here, doesn't make sense so Creator, I want the real thing I have all these forces and I refuse to not acknowledge them because the very fact that they are causing ripples in my body show me that they are real what do I do? How do you stay with it at all times? And the answer is, unfortunately as human beings, we go up and we go down and we have hard moments and easy moments but put it like this if no one was listening and if you were on a desert island what would be the answer? This is not you saying what an individual should or shouldn't do in the world that we live in because the world that we live in we have to take into account for reality but let's understand the ideal and let's work on it and let's work away back from there I know that it says that out of an evil, one body, one flesh and then they became duality and everything we do right now is how can I connect the pieces together it's a man who wants to lie with another man who comes from a place of I want to know him always there's that part of the mission of the Kodokan in all your ways you must know him it's I want to know the source of life I want to know the experience of life in every single possible dynamic that's what the desire is really saying in sight so how does one walk in this world with that intense feeling are you talking particularly about someone who has a same sex attraction or someone who's got a fetish which is unexpressable in a Jewish marriage yeah I think any person who deals with this level of difficulty has to have a bucket load of compassion for himself he has to, in place of the shame he has to really say to himself I've been given an incredibly challenging thing, I've been given the whole world is one way and he's allowed to, I know we can dispute that in the facts but that's the way he feels, so validate that feeling that he feels that the whole world is one way and I'm another way, I feel completely alone with a burning desire and if I would to express my desire be shunned by society I would have a chorus which is ostracization and a form of death from heaven which is which we can't get away from we can't get away from the facts and we deny those facts for their own peril and from a mental health perspective denial of those facts which you know to be true it works out in good mental health outcomes so you have to be really clear and you have to just stop and say wait a minute that is so hard for me that is so hard for you and to envelope oneself in as many compassionate connections where people mirror the compassion you need to have for yourself and before we start there you have to start there, you have to you deserve it and it's simple reality it's simple reality if you're given a monumental challenge and you cannot fight a monumental challenge when you think you're fighting an ant if you're fighting a monumental challenge you have to give yourself the acknowledgement of the monumental challenge you're facing or else when you feel you're losing you'll feel like an ant so you have to feel like you're fighting a mountain and then you'll feel like a mountain that you're fighting it the second point is to know that this challenge because it's so big because it's so strong is a uniquely sent challenge for me and if I could say so the fact that's a challenge for me means that God knows I'm going to fall but I know I'm still nonetheless He gave me a challenge not because He wants me not to fall but because He wants me to contend with this challenge of challenges for my whole life and that is firstly what a weight what an absolute weight to hold, to bear please once again give yourself acknowledgement for that and then everything I said till now about this deep expression that's not for the shelf I am not shoving this in anyone's face as an intervention I'm not because when someone has these expressions I'll tell you what happens when someone has the same satisfaction he is so desperate to rid himself from it that deep place cannot be accessed I'm not quite following I'm sorry I just chucked in a whole different thing I have to back up a bit I like the look on your face when you said it that somehow a certain experience blocks me from being able to access something behind it explain that what I was saying before was I have to back up a bit that in the sexual urge is a deep message being hidden there is a reason why this message is being hidden there is a reason why it can't be in our consciousness it's because it's too close to our soul and there is too much trauma for us to be able to carry that message with the delicacy and the honour it deserves and when we are pursuing that message we are pursuing that diamond with an intensity with a need to fix ourselves that energy with that energy that diamond cannot be revealed I'm starting to say I really am starting to say it's something I would never have to say from a conceptual level it's only from an experience it's only from so even if we don't have the clarity, the answer exactly what an individual should do when they have such a struggle in terms of how to move forward in their lives one thing we can be certain of is there is a treasure trove to be learned from just sitting within it and understanding and decodifying and exploring and at the end of the day a person stands before their creator and it's them who stand before them alone their life is on their accounting and not on their friends or anyone else that is mortal on this earth we have a blueprint, we have a structure of how our tradition deemed the truest intimacy for the creator of the universe to be and so much of it has shown us just the infinite wisdom within but regardless of the fact there is no exploring on this earth whether it is on the surface level, in line with that or out of line with that it hasn't got an infinite amount of resource with a purpose to it not a randomness to it and for the individual who accessed it they should be incredibly, incredibly, incredibly grateful for such a portal of wisdom the secular world says sectionize it and the sexual expression is its truest form be proud let's change the whole world around and put the sexual expression at the forefront of everything we have a Torah which says that it's not the truest form, but what do we do with it? the answer is it is an expression it's sitting on something there's something so much deeper and precious which lies within and we're not going to cheapify that by making the most external expression of that into the main thing we're going to stay with the challenge for as long as we need to and staying with the challenge as we said doesn't mean always winning it means falling and getting up but staying being present, being a real person with the challenge standing up tall and strong as the person who God gave you having the challenge and having the challenge standing tall holding the paradox standing not listening to the voices which make you less human because of it and stay with that just stay with that for as long as that some people have stayed with that for many decades if only they had the space in order to speak out about what it is that they're going through that's one of the channels that we're speaking of we need those people as our educators we need those people as our speakers because they are the ones who have if they have pulled through developed the most compassion towards life, the most compassion towards self those are the people who need to be recognising or ostracising and shoving to the side we need them to come forward and speak themselves and not to be demonised by the wider community because they have something to share and we have something to share the others simply can't and it's all needed yeah they have sat in the darkness there's no greater bravery than fighting a challenge without any light at the end of the tunnel and they have sat in the challenges of this without any light at the end of the tunnel and if someone has sat in that space for years I'm saying this years not to invalidate months but everybody, any person that has sat in it for years, everyone as you say they are they are someone who has held the deepest paradoxes, deeper paradoxes than any lay person has carried and as you said we carry a heck of a lot of paradoxes ourselves or everyone it's like a holocaust survivor it's about sitting in the darkness without seeing a light at the end of the tunnel just living for another day living for another day it's so complicated to navigate this space one thing bleeds over into another and me and you we have our language we are just about to navigate it and we are involved in the field and have spent time working out people in the field and still it's an almost insurmountable task the idea is that people are out there right now in their millions going through these experiences they don't have that language, they don't have the forms to be taught the status quo must be changed the way we are receiving these concepts and the people who are thirsty for this information must change it's so clear in this conversation it's a parched desert and yet beneath the desert lies all the oils and all the resources that life is actually flawed upon and yeah, like we began off saying it's just tremendous to be part of this process it's undigging, it's dirty not in the unholy sense but in the so much so many layers that we have to shovel through you want to just remember what it is we are trying to get back to here and it's a real merit to be part of that process and if I would like to invite anyone who has struggled through these challenges and come out feeling and when I say come out, you know what I mean it's been a little bit history I mean that he is able to feel human alive and vibrant in this challenge especially to be able to be part of this unique cohort of people who have joined together one another in discussing and mining this area any person, like please join us make yourself known to others to your community because you are a light and you are so what we need and you may stand in contradiction to all that has been until now but the future is forward, not backwards and this generation, the ones to come are going to revere and cleave to the people who are brave enough and honest enough to shine this part of of their soul in essence I won't do that I see we have to keep being part of this because we know that this is the sound, this is the story this is the song of Gola and I think when you're sitting it's only I would have never have known, and you told me five years ago, six years ago when I just started out being a therapist that you would have a clear set of the tools to fight the type of thing which only a few short years ago I felt completely and utterly despondent and discouraged in my battle against it you told me that you're going to become a therapist and then you're going to actually feel like you have a grasp of these weapons of mass destruction against these things and there's real potential and there's already seeing that potential being realized and it's only going to grow that to really take the battle back win the battle bring the Gola if you would have told me that I would not have believed you and now, from the place I'm in now from the place I've seen so many countless individuals journey from the wonderful experiences you've brought to the table I feel completely that I feel like, yes, this is a battle I smell blood this is a battle to be won this is not random that this came at this time for generations and generations Ali has told us that in the final stages of this exile this will be the area that will be most in need of rectification and because it hits life at the centre, at the core it will be the thing which will flip life from the core this is expected this was always coming we're here now and now let's realize this is the stage we're up to and now let's act accordingly yeah let's grab with two hands Satya, thank you very much Thank you, Asi to continue in all the forms and works