Unedited Intro episode 6.4

Just so we have some audio so I know where to cut it at so it's not like a hard start. Like we're able to get into it and I'm able to cut that out, which I will. Let me get this quick time up and then start recording and then obviously we'll edit that. Are you recording your... Give me a sec because I want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row with this vocal. With the audio.com specifically. Alright, yeah. Give me a sec. Did you log into any of the other stuff or did I just give you the links and you're good? I logged into the Instagram and then I think I still need to get TikTok back on my phone so I have to log into that as well. But am I not spelling vignette correctly? V-I-G-N-E-T-T-E Is it the same password for the audio.com one? Oh shit, that might be a little different. I think that might be my email ID. Try... Damn, what did I do with that one? If you want to check it and if it's a personal password like maybe it made it by accident and then change it and then let me know later, please do that. Because I would rather you check and then like get the time to change it properly and not have to tell me a password you used. Because I know people, you know... People would be wanting to keep their passwords. Hold on, let me see. Um... Let me get TikTok. Is it banned yet? No. Okay. When is that? I just signed in using the vocal vignette email. When you're signing in to audio.com, use email and then do vocal vignette because it's still the same thing, bowl, Nakano, exclamation point. Okay. So that should be it because I just did it through my phone. And that's what I used. Excuse me. E-U-1-1. That's weird. That's what I'm doing. It's not going? It's not going. I will just make a whole new password then and then we'll be good. But either way, I just want you to have access to all that. Sure. I have access to all that. All right. At least on my Discord, it is starting to record right now. So let me know when you're ready and then we can get things really rolling. I just want to try that one more time. All right. Hold on. Actually, wait. One last try. Because I have... It's defaulting to my Zakra Bahavi email when I try to sign in through Gmail. So never mind. All right. I'll figure that out later. All right. Let me start recording. And then... Can you imagine if we can't edit a screen report? It's not recording. Oh, crap. All right. Hold on. Sorry. We're both going through the blues. It's all right. Oh, shoot. I just unplugged my whole lighting. Why did I get to a dark... Whoops. Oh, dear. Yeah. There we go. Okay. What the hell? Are you talking? Can you hear me? I can't hear you again. Oh, my goodness. I can hear you. I can hear you. I can hear you now. You're sounding... I think we're delayed because I just heard you, but it sounded very slow. Sorry. Yeah, it's just going slow right now. I don't know what is going on. Okay. I can hear you. It's just delayed. Maybe it's my internet. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yeah, there must be a delay because I hear you talking, but it's slow. Okay. I think when I screen record, it's just way too much. My computer went down. Am I delayed? Oh, my gosh. I think I am delayed. Okay, you're fine now. Keep talking. Yeah, I think it's because when I was screen recording, it was like really, really not taking that. So I might be able to audio record it in the future. For now, I just want to try to get... I don't know. Does that rip? Jesus. I'm better now, right? I'm here? I'm just testing my feed now to see if I'm not delayed or anything. This is an older computer. I've probably got to get a graphics card on this or something. All right, yeah. We might be working a little bit of a delay on my end. We'll see how that goes. I guess we're going to have to just talk slow, figure it out. This is what these early things are for, right? Yeah. There's a bit of delay for you, just a little. Like two seconds, about. Yeah, I'm noticing because it literally was not like that. So, I don't know. All right, you ready to start? Yeah. All right, I'll count down in five, four, three, two... Wait, hold on. Do I sound delayed? Are you catching me or is it a little bit of a... No, I don't think so. All right, well then. Talk right now. I'm talking. Do my lips sync up with the sound on your end? Yeah. All right. All right, so then five, four, three, two, one. Welcome to the Vocal Vignette Podcast. This is our inaugural episode, which we are finally happy getting off the ground. My name is Annabelle, and this is my partner in crime. Zachary. From Zach. So, the purpose of the Vocal Vignette Podcast is really to talk about wrestling, our love of wrestling, and the people who made us, you know, just keep along with the journey and keep attached to it in whatever capacity it may be. On this podcast, we're going to talk about all types of wrestlers, indie wrestlers, whatever, WWE, AW, whoever is your favorite, whoever got you into wrestling, what stories got you into wrestling. So, we want to talk about it all, anything, NWA, whatever, 80s WWF, as it was once called. Ruthless Aggression, TNA, Ring of Honor, New Japan, wherever you are in the wrestling space, we just want to talk about it and have a great time here and bring levity. And I think we're going to do a good job at that. And like I said, this is our inaugural episode, so we're doing the best we can with what we got, and we just want to make it bigger and better. So, if you're with us now, you're along for the journey. Yeah, I think it's always been about respecting what makes the business great. I think a lot of content and media in the wrestling space now boils down to what's hot, what's on TV, what's the viral angle, what's making people click. And a lot of the times, that just isn't what wrestling is about for people. People are moving back to the weeklies. They're moving back to what makes wrestling very interesting. They're moving back to storytelling-based wrestling. And more than anything, I think what people want to do more now than ever is enjoy the fundamental principles of wrestling. They're not as worried about work rate and kayfabe and this, that, and the other. They just want to feel something. And I think that's the ethos of this podcast, is to respect what made us feel something in somebody. I think over the next however many dozens of weeks, you're going to see that we want to focus on people who not just mean a lot to us, but mean a lot to people who are in our lives. And I think, ultimately, mean a lot to people who know about the wrestling space. And people that know about the wrestling space know that some of these people are some of the most influential. They're some of the most talked about. And they're cultural touchstones of what is a very diverse set of works that is professional wrestling. And I think we're going to try to bring respect to that in any way that we can. Yes, definitely honor the craft and everything. I do feel like a lot of, well, there is just everything in wrestling media now. Everyone wants to be backstage. Everyone wants to be woes, shams. You know what I mean? Everyone wants to break news, contracts. You know what I mean? I was like, we're not SRS. We don't have sources. We're just going to talk to you about what we love, why we love it. We want to create a wrestling space where this is your favorites. You know, you could talk about the reason why it's called Vocal Vignette, specifically. It's that, whatever for nostalgia purposes, but we all know how awesome wrestling vignettes are. But we want to vocally just like talk about whoever inspired us or what we like or what they brought in any capacity whatsoever and just bring flowers to them. And we want to create the environment that a lot of people who consume wrestling, who consume these podcasts, these shows, read the dirt sheets, whatever it is. It seems like an issue that's going on is people, too much arguing, too much. This is better, that better, you know, too much of this is my show. This is my tribe. And really not anything that you speak of, like that you enjoy and like really love, like what you like. Like there's segments on TV that you like it. And you obviously dissect the show because that's your purpose. But a lot of the chatter online can get very mixed and muddled because it's like every single day something happens. You need nuance and detail. But here, it's all about what you love, why you got into wrestling, what keeps you into wrestling. What would you like wrestling to be in the future? We might get into that, too. But really, we want to talk to other wrestling heads. Obviously, both of us are big wrestling heads. We want to talk about the other wrestling heads and hopefully other wrestlers to discuss their journey for the people who are literally in the ring and taking the bumps. What was the match? Who was the wrestler that got you into it? And it could be from any starting point. And I think the beautiful thing about wrestling is that people get into it from so many different angles. And it's been interesting to see where these wrestlers thrive, how they thrive, when they thrive. So it's very cool just to see the layout of the land and seeing people live out their dreams. It's a beautiful thing to see. Yeah. I think right now we're in an era where we're learning so much about these people. A lot of these people are very front face. It's a social media era of any form of entertainment. And I think what makes wrestling really unique is that a lot of forms of premium content creation and really high revenue, high audience volume content creation, like stuff on TikTok, like stuff on Instagram, like fitness people. And I dare and challenge people like Mr. Beast says that a lot of wrestlers have a lot of control over how they get into the business, where they're starting from. And it's all things that have so many roots deeply planted in so many different aspects of the business. And I think what does get lost in the online discourse is just the focus on the weeklies and television. And what it's most about is the people. Everyone's trying to make some moment the moment. And let's talk about that moment. And now they need to do that segment again and again forever. But I think what makes wrestling really special is that it can be from a time and a place and capture a very specific feeling. And that's what a moment is. It's not just a set of circumstances. It's not just a spot. It's everything happening all at once. So I think being able to hone in on very specific people and times and places gives us the opportunity to really understand what it all meant and why it was so special. And I think a lot of the best media in the wrestling space now attempts to do that. And I think that's what's very critical to how we're carrying forward with this project. Yes. One of the big things I want to do is obviously with social media wrestlers have the power to talk. But it's like so many like I don't hear questions of like, oh, why? What got you into this? Why do you love it? Like what was your favorite match growing up? What was your favorite match that you've done so far like while in the business? It seems like everything that we see, obviously, WWE, AEW, people want to know like what's up like either backstage or, you know, like how they feel about their career at that particular moment. And, you know, sometimes you might get people who are disgruntled, some people who have really long journeys. And, you know, they get there like, oh, it's not what I expected or wanted out of it or I'm not getting the opportunities I felt. Or there are others who journey, once again, took the long road and they journeyed and they're wherever they are and they are being fruitful and the spotlight's on them and they're shining and thriving, which is good. So here I just want to give the space for wrestlers to just talk about like why they love it so much. Why do you love taking bumps? What was the match or the person that was like, I'm doing this, like non-negotiable. I'm chasing my dreams. I'm doing this. And for people who are not like that, who are like who they knew wrestling was out there, but they didn't necessarily, you know, were like, oh, I'm watching this match and this is why. But like, how did they get into wrestling? Like, what was it that was appealing to them, especially as they've gotten into wrestling when they're older? Because it's one thing to be a child and grow up with it and be a fan. And like, I've been a fan since I was like four. But like when you meet someone who's like they're aware of wrestling and then, you know, it's like they're in their 20s and like they discover it and like they're doing it. And it's like, oh, my God. Like, what made you like what clicked? Like, what was the switch for you to pursue this later in life? You know, not like I'm 10. I want to be a wrestler. You know, it's different than like, you know, I'm 23. What is this thing about? Yeah, and I think I think that's what's so interesting, too, about how the medium works is that it draws from so many places and it can naturally attract so many different types of people. I am always shocked when I hear someone, you know, say that they never heard of wrestling before. Not because even it's just such a cultural like it was such a big deal at a certain time. But there are a lot of people who I think about things that they're into. And I remember, you know, whether it was when I was in a lot of theater productions growing up or in improv troops or I was doing radio and sports. And even now, as I'm doing stuff in advertising, I see in every sector I've been in, there's some subject section of people who are either a lapsed fan or they're a longtime casual viewer. And they don't really watch every week, but they know who the big wrestlers are and they have people in their lives that talk about wrestling. And I think that it's it's so interesting to see now we're at a time where we're more now than ever in a space where wrestling is just returning to the mainstream. It's not just a cult thing. Even in the peaks of the attitude era, it was still considered part of crash TV and counterculture. And now it's just part of culture. It is just what it is. It exists. People know how it functions. There is no more, you know, all wrestling is fake and well, that's not real. And no, we're we're all the way here now. So there is a desire, I think, from every perspective to build a more sophisticated approach to talking about wrestling. There is. And as you mentioned, like wrestling is in a renaissance period, like ever since Rock came back and all these things, it it it has come back. I always I always at him on Twitter, Ben Coyle, at Comic Coyle, who came up with the perfect saying, wrestling is everything. And it's true. You find every thing you think about. People are trying to WWE the angle. Literally our world, our politics, people are trying to WWE how to sell something. People are trying to WWE it. So as much as, you know, it gone underground a bit before it came back, people are still the elements of WWE is in everything. And it's everywhere you can find it. Right. Because the narrative is all storyline. It's true. And it's every era of WWE and every era of even you go back to like Jimmy Crockett, WCW. And now with a W, there's something there's always something and people are seeing it and it breaks through. People are like, oh, look, this wrestling stuff is still like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe it. Like, I remember in 2019 in it was the first like maybe it was within the first 25 shows of Dynamite. And a clip of Orange Cassidy went viral of a kid in the OC like cosplay. And he had the perfect like the glasses and he did the thumb and everything. And that video still I think it's about four and a half years old, but it has like 70, 80 million views. And it was on the news and people that don't even like wrestling like, oh, it's cute. And who's this guy? And, you know, WWE had so many of those moments. And I think even people like even shows like Impact, you know, with with Rampage Jackson and the Sharkboy gimmick. And there's just there's so many things happening in the space all the time. And people are always going to see it. And even if you go into other sports and events and venues where wrestling seems to bleed through, like when the Pistons won the championship and Ben Wallace got everybody the World Heavyweight Championship replica or when Aaron Rodgers debuted the discount double check. And it was literally the belt. Like it's it's it's always been there. It's always been a big deal. I think it's just now it's a bigger deal than ever. Right. It is a bigger deal than ever. Obviously, with WWE, when a team wins, they send the belt to whichever team won. And they're proudly holding it at the parade. They're passing it around. They're holding it. You know, they're putting on their waist like they this is child. They're fulfilling sort of childhood things. And it's cool to see. And it's neat to see that like people are always still undercover, like low key still in the wrestling. Like I'll walk out in public with a Stone Cold shirt, Stone Cold, Rock, Taker, Michaels, China, Lita, Trish. Like whatever shirt I'm wearing, if I'm wearing it, people will stop me in the street like, oh, I remember this. Like or and then they'll just be like, oh, they recently saw something. And it's like I just brought up that memory for them because it's on my shirt. So it's very cool when those things happen in wrestling. And that's one thing I also want to bring back is just like you mentioned earlier that the humanity side of it, like not necessarily being worried about weeklies and dirts and ratings and stuff like that, like just feeling. It's going to be all feeling like what made you do this? Like we're in our I'm in my 30s. You're you're approaching your 30s. Like, why do we still love this thing? Why do we still watch this thing? What keeps us here? When for a long time, you know, we didn't have to be like, well, I certainly wasn't at certain points. I'm like, this is not. But there were certain things that did keep me in. For instance, like throughout, like I would watch it a little bit more in high school. But then when I got to college, obviously, college is college and you're doing your thing. But the one thing that kept me is because Undertaker is my favorite wrestler. And I was like, all right, well, we're Rumble time. Let's see who he's facing for mania. Let's see the lead up. But then doing that, I'm tuning in, checking in. I'm like, oh, this is like 2011, 12, 13. You know what I mean? So I'm like, oh, what's going on here? And I'm like, oh, all right, this looks cool. But what really got me back into it was when Zach was doing a wrestling show at our radio station. Shout out to St. John's Radio. We're going to go down as the most legendary things. We're going to go down as legendary. The St. John's Radio Club. That's right. You know, that's right. Maybe we'll save a St. John's specific pod and we'll tell the stories about our radio beginning. And then just everyone from the radio club. Shout out, Gabe. And on the radar, shout out to him. But, you know, we'll get everything with the St. John's Radio and discuss how legendary we are. But anyway, Zach was doing a show, a wrestling show, and he was alone. And then I was like, oh, you know what? Obviously, at that point in time, I wouldn't say I was a wrestling head. But I was like, all right, I know enough where I jump back in. Like, it'll be easy. I jump back in and this is right around what I want to say like 2014-ish. 2014. Yeah. This was like, yeah, Soulmania was in the, I think that summer was the summer slam where Brian lost. Okay. Yeah. So 2014, 15. Like, yeah. So around there. Yeah. I was like, let me tune in. Let me see what's going on. So I was aware of the shield. This is when Seth is really like, this is around the time the shield breaks up, basically. So I caught, as I'm going dipping in and out, like I'm catching the shield, I'm catching this. Shield breaks up. I'm like, oh, shoot. Okay. So what really kept me was NXT. I was watching that, seeing NXT. And then what brought it home for me was Sasha Banks at the time and Charlotte Flair. And I was like, oh, Ric Flair's daughter's wrestling? Oh, that's nice. And I'm staying in. I'm like, oh, the women are really wrestling now. Like, this is a different ball game right now. Let me see where this goes. So then throughout NXT, like, I remember my first event getting back into it where the NXT's Brooklyn. Like, all those NXT, like SummerSlam, Brooklyn stuff. And this is what I knew that caught me. Because I didn't even go to the main roster stuff. I was like, I just want to see NXT. I just want to see there. I was in the building for Sasha versus Bayley. Like, I was there. Like, still one of my favorite matches I saw in person. I can't believe I saw that match in person. Absolutely my favorite takeover. My favorite. And since then, I got hooked on narcotic, man. You can't. I'm never going to be clean from this. I remember being at that show, too. And, like, that show was insane because they did that match. And then they did Finn and Kevin Owens right after. And people were standing around like, I can't believe it. There's still more show to go. The place was really rocking. But, you know, live events like that, I think back to so many New York crowds I've been a part of, too. Because the year after that, I remember I went back to, it might have been the year after or the year before, there was a Barclays Center Raw where The Rock came out by surprise. And he had an encounter with Rusev and Lana. And then I think back to the AW Grand Slam, the first ever AW Grand Slam. I was there on the floor. And Kenny Omega versus Bryan Danielson. I have to say, as much as I love Sasha and Bayley, that match might have been the best live crowd I've ever been a part of. Because that felt like a moment people were waiting for. It was 35,000 people. It was the hype and anticipation of Bryan Danielson now being able to perform, not just in a venue like that, but getting back in the swing of his style of wrestling. And it just is what it meant to all those people. You can't put that match in any particular 35,000-person venue and it's going to sell and it's going to be as magical as it was. Maybe you can do that for a lot of WWE shows at a lot of different places. Some people might pick up. But I think there's something about being in downtown New York in the Queens area, knowing the reputation of how much people love professional wrestling there, and building to a moment. Like we keep saying, that's what it's all about. It's about really being able to define that moment through feeling, not just the broader strokes. Right. We've been to a ton of wrestling events. We'll definitely do a recap episode of Wrestlemania in Philly. That was Zack's first Wrestlemania, if you can believe it or not. And you got to finish the story. I didn't get to finish the story. I went to Mania in L.A. and then Philly and then obviously they announced Vegas, so I'll most likely be over there. But it's more, it's just everything that wrestling gives you and the emotion. And it's just like, just thinking about the matches that we saw or that we've come across. And it's so interesting. If we could put down some of the best matches we've seen live, it's incredible what they do. Yeah. And just the feeling you get. And I think they try to communicate so much more personally, too. And you go to some indies, you go to a lot of these smaller shows with people who, they're really going at it. And it's not just, oh, they're hitting each other hard and whatever else. These are people that work together all the time. They're going the same tracks. They're working the same indies. I remember something that really stood out, we'll talk about more during our Mania weekend recap, was our GCW for the culture. And some of the people on those cards, in those matches, on that card that we talked about, we were like, oh, they've been working a lot this month. And, oh, this person's working with that person a lot. That's what makes the business really interesting and special. It's not just, oh, this person's signing here. It's, this person's been working, developing something, making something special, and look at all the people they're connected to. Right. It's the connectivity. It's the tissue of everything. Definitely, yeah, we went to obviously a lot of events during Mania weekend, and we're seeing people, some people wrestled five, six times during that week. You know what I mean? Just hustling and getting their work in and giving us incredible matches. And that's really what the feeling is all about. And as a wrestling head, when you hit those moments of like on a high, and it's just like, it's amazing. It's beautiful. And I'm happy that, you know, more people, like hopefully more people share that aspect of it and aren't embarrassed to, because it is an incredible art form. A unique art form, in a sense, because nothing is like wrestling. Like nothing is like it at all. And that's what makes it beautiful. And that's why so many people, you know, they try to work elements of that in. But as you mentioned, the GCW and all that, like we want to sort of give you what we plan to talk about. So like I said, we want to talk about wrestlers that are inspirational, that we find that are cool, that have inspired us. So we're going to give you a run out of our next couple episodes of what we plan to do. We definitely want to give, just have a wonderful episode on Bull Nakano. Just recently inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. Look is amazing. Just her attitude is amazing. How she changed a game is amazing. And, you know, I was really disappointed with the audience when she went up there to speak. Because obviously Paul Heyman went first, and they wanted to see Paul. You know, but Bull Nakano is someone who, you know, who's really an OG, a real OG. I thought it was kind of flat. It definitely just felt like people weren't sure how to react. And it was weird because it was like, you know, she was on. She was on at like a kind of. She's on right after. I guess not. I believe she's right after Paul. It was tough to follow that just for anybody. But I think Bull is so special. And she represented such an important time for women's wrestling breaking through into the United States. And, you know, you had Alundra Blaze who was so untouched as far as her stature in the division. And then you had people like Bull Nakano leading a generation of, you know, pre-joshi. Just like Japanese women wrestlers just blazing the path. You know, working incredible programs and really longstanding matches. It was a very special time in women's wrestling when Bull was riding high in the early 90s. Right. So Bull Nakano, obviously one of my favorite wrestlers now is Asuka. Direct inspiration. Even with Io, Kairi Sane, Juliana, just the whole, just all the Japanese girls are really, really doing their thing. Another person is Zach's favorite. Will you turn me on? Yeah. One of my favorites ever, Tuck Taylor, who unfortunately had to announce his retirement from the ring because of a longstanding ankle issue. So he will be retiring from in-ring performing and working as a backstage or producer hopefully with A.W. to finish his contract up. I know as of the time of this recording, he has a big interview coming up with Renee of A.W. So it really is one of those things where I feel like Chuck Taylor's career is so much less stated in the matches and the title runs. And it's more stated in who he is as a wrestler. He's always somebody who was known for his comedy, but he could also work in the ring and has worked in the ring with so many big names and so many important people in professional wrestling. And seeing his run in any indie you can name, but namely Chikara in the late 2000s, early 2010s YouTube era of just people posting clips of pro wrestling online, hoping that you would buy a $6.99 eye pay-per-view. I think he's a guy that people would love to hear more about if they understood him, if they saw who he was, if they saw a very different era of professional wrestling. It was a different time. It was an edgier time, but it was also a time with a lot more sincerity and a lot more focus on seeing people who were not going to ever get a chance in the structure that was pro wrestling on TV at the time. Ever get a chance to be on TV and these indie promoters like PWG, like Chikara were making it their business to make these guys as big of a deal as possible. People like Owens, like Kevin Owens now, Kevin Steen, people like El Generico, Sami Zayn. Chuck Taylor was right there with them and he's part of a larger legacy of the era of indie wrestling. Right. Shout out to Mr. Fuck Them Kids from the clip's actual name. That's right. Another person we're going to talk about is someone we saw in person in Philly. We saw her a few times as Jada Stone, GCW. She was at the WV, the vintage wrestling store. She was wrestling over there too. Just an incredibly young, talented woman in the space. Clearly the grind, you know, she's doing what she needs to be done as Bailey wore her shirt. She's recognized by Mercedes and she's just an amazing, amazing athletic. Just someone so young and so vibrant and just hungry and ready to get what is theirs, do what is theirs and just live out their dreams. And it's so beautiful seeing someone just chase their dreams as they are very young. I believe they're only like 20, 21, if I'm not mistaken. 20 years old. 20, just the world is her oyster. She's fucking phenomenal. Like I loved her athleticism when we saw her. I was like, I was immediately, I was like, okay, cause I've seen her online and I've, I've, I've heard of her. Um, but when I actually saw her in person, I gave her something like, nah, like I need to, you know, if she's ever at house of glory or something, I was like, listen, we're in there. We are in there, but she's just another one who's, she's just putting on strongly and 2024 is her year. It's, it's, it's her year. She's, she's, she's great. Um, another thing that we plan to do is, as I said earlier, a WrestleMania recap. It was Zach's first one. My second one, um, to be watching wrestling so long and finally have him come to WrestleMania in Philly. Um, you know, recap what that looked like. What were you expecting? What did you like? Yeah. Um, and things like that just go. And yeah, there is a beautiful place to like, it was just so much fun. And if you're at first time in Philly, right. Yeah. It was a couple of firsts. I had a plenty decent bit of firsts and it was a beautiful place to be. And like WrestleMania weekend, I always hear about it and I always see all the frenzy and then the activity, but it really was one of those places where we saw everything. And so much was happening all at once. The day we were getting in there was, was blood sport. And then by the time that we got to Wally Mania that night, like there was already so much more going on. So, you know, it's a, it's a whirlwind and I couldn't have imagined a better place than Philly because it was just so much damn fun. Yeah. Philly was fun. I know people complained about the weather and the cold and I was like, I mean, just gotta brave it. It is April. Um, but Philly as a city, I've come to, I like Philly. I go to Philly a lot. So I had no problems going there and doing what needs to be done. I was like, let's combine my two, one of my two favorite things. Um, so yeah, it was a fun experience and we're definitely going to share clips and post those and just what it feels like being in an audience during WrestleMania weekend. It is different. It is different. I mean, it's fun and it's nice to just be a part of that. Um, no matter how goofy or embarrassing people think it, it is fun. It is, it is a real fun thing to actually witness. Um, cause people are like, you know, WrestleMania is like, it's like WrestleMania obviously has all these fans go, but like in the middle of the street, it's like, you're never like, oh, you go to WrestleMania, you go to WrestleMania. You know what I mean? It's very, it's a different thing to talk about, especially for something like WrestleMania that is so ubiquitous and everyone knows what it is. So it's just like, oh, you're going. Um, so yeah, we're going to do that. But basically from now on, all these shows are going to be about a specific person, what we like about them. We're going to go over some matches that we, that we love. Um, I don't care about, you know, I don't care about five stars, two stars, zero stars. Once I do not care if I love a match, we're going to share it. So if it's the worst match in history and I like it, it's going to be on here. So brace yourselves. Um, but that's, that's what we're here for. Same. Absolutely the same. If, if it's, if it made me remember it, if it's something I thought was cool to talk about from any particular angle, like it doesn't have to be a good match. It doesn't have to be particularly funny. It doesn't have to be a particularly gory or bloody. Like it can be its own thing. Has to be different. I'm glad we talked about Sharkboy. Uh, there is a very oft not covered, um, segment Sharkboy did. And I just think his whole gimmick in general is incredible because his final stages, the payout he got from the movie studio, I feel like is one of the best stories you could ever hear in it. Cause it's true wrestling. It's about copyrights. It's about gimmicks. You know, stuff like that. We're going to talk about things in the business that has a larger impact on culture itself. Not just, did you see that promo at the beginning of Raw? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like that, I feel like that is so worthy of stressing that this is not going to be just howdy doody, like one clone 350. Like we're not doing that. Right. Another thing too is that there's so much wrestling out there and so many people watch it, um, and they like what they like. It's just, I don't feel it necessary for us to add more to it because so many people already have their, their own shows and then they're doing what they want to do and they're doing, a lot of them are doing just that. So it's like, we want to take a different approach. We just want to talk to you. And I think hopefully this fosters into a beautiful environment for people to come and talk about why they love wrestling. Um, so it's going to be interesting getting into this and seeing how it shakes out because I find the beauty in all of it. So it's going to be really cool, uh, talking with you and then figuring out what maybe other wrestlers that you enjoy because I didn't realize you enjoyed Chuck Taylor that much. Um, but yeah, but it's like, we're, we're clearly going to teach each other things. And, and another beautiful thing about this is that this is going to even broaden our horizons even more within wrestling as we talk about certain individuals. Um, and if down the line, we may ask you guys, our fans, our, our, our soon to be fans, who would you like us, like introduce us to people that we may have not done yet. So we could go watch and see what we like and share with you what, what it is that we like. So it's going to be a beautiful thing. Yeah. I, I feel like, you know, you personally have always been someone, I like your approach on wrestling. I think you have a good authority on the programs you watch and the content you consume, but something you said is very astute. At the end of the day, people already have their show or their way of following their, you know, whatever thing they watch a lot. So what's important for us to do now is to, you know, flex that muscle. And we want you as an audience to join us in doing that. We want you to learn and grow with us. We want you to learn and grow from the things that we're trying to, you know, educate ourselves on. And we want to be able to use you as a resource as well. The viewers, people who get involved in the communities that foster themselves through professional wrestling, through fandoms and groups that are passionate like wrestling fans are. I think that's a powerful thing. And I think we want to continue to connect with people on that level. I want this, at least from my participation, to be a very two-way street. It's not about, oh, this is a parasocial thing. You know, I want to be this and that. It's about I want to know what everyone else is thinking about when it comes to wrestling and media and how they affect each other. And I hope that we can attract people who are also interested in that same line of thinking. Right. So final words is we're aiming to find what you enjoy because we're going to talk about what we enjoy. So let's all enjoy this thing together. All right, guys. That's right. Bye. Bye. All right. All right.