006 - BJJ & Cats

The speaker discusses their recent experiences and thoughts about life. They talk about feeling grateful for being alive but also frustrated with themselves for relying on cliches to feel better. They mention having trouble sleeping due to an overactive mind and stress. The speaker then talks about their experience with practicing jujitsu and how they feel like they are not progressing as they had hoped. They mention enjoying the physical exercise but feeling unsure about their coach's teaching approach. They also explain that rolling in jujitsu is similar to sparring and describe the physical and mental challenges of the practice. They discuss the benefits of jujitsu for self-defense and feeling comfortable in uncomfortable situations. The speaker emphasizes that the goal of jujitsu is not to harm others but to protect oneself and loved ones if necessary. They mention that they would not hesitate to use force if their life or the lives of their loved ones were in danger. Well John, hello sir. How are you? I'm doing good. How are you? I never ask you, I feel. You know, I've been better. It's been a bit of a week, but it happens. Weeks do happen. Weeks do happen, that's true. If you're lucky. You have a very lucky seven days. Yeah, that's true. I don't know the saying. I'm above ground, or I'm still walking, or whatever it is people say when they've had a bad week, but they're still pleased to be alive, I guess. Yeah, yeah. I always think about that. I feel really sorry for myself. I'm like, well, at least I'm alive. And then I get really angry with myself. Why did I say that? I don't want to talk to myself anymore because it's very pretentious. Why do I have to puff myself up and make myself feel better with these things? Like, oh, at least I'm not dead. That's miserable. It's tough when you don't want to talk to yourself because it's hard to get away from yourself. I have a hard time. I have slept very little this week because it's hard to get out of my head. I feel like I used to have trouble with that a lot, you know, where I'd have trouble falling asleep. I've got to think, I've got to do this tomorrow, I've got to do that tomorrow. Just thinking about, not like stressed, but just always going, right? Mind always running. But then I felt like I got to a point where I was really good at focusing on the one background noise sound and focusing on darkness or whatever it is, and then I could kind of fall asleep. But then this last week when I got stressed out, I got a lot on my mind. It's hard to silence the, I was going to say silence the demons, but then it sounds like I'm about to, you know, go on a mass murder or something like that, which is not the case. It's hard to silence, I don't know, whatever you got going on here. What about this? What about that? What's going to happen here? Oh, man. You do a little martial arts, right? I mean, a little, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not like, it's not a real like, concentrated in your mind kind of thing. I do, I do a bit of jujitsu, but it's just kind of the thing to do these days, you know, but yeah, I wouldn't say I'm very good at it. Do you find yourself, you're more angry in those, in those, those classes? Like, are you throwing people a little bit more? No, I mean, it's quite, I'm the one getting thrown. I'm not good at it. But, but I, I enjoy it. I enjoy it when I'm there. It's like, it's like anything else, like going to the gym. I, you know, like, just muster up the strength to change clothes and put some, put some tights on and drive over there. You know, that, that's not always my favorite thing to do, but once I'm there, no, I enjoy it. It's a fun time. The, the actual exercise of it, you know, is good. I, to be honest, like the, the gym I go to, the coach or the coach or whatever you call, I really like him, nice enough guy. I'm not sure, I'm not sure that his approach is like the approach that I need for me. I'm not going to be critical of his approach. I think like for me, it's not like a, from a, from a starting point and kind of moving you up through the thing. Like there were a lot of fundamentals that I feel like I did not, I did not learn. It was more like, oh, great. Welcome. Here's a new student. Okay. Today we're doing such and such. And then every week is just kind of a new thing, but it doesn't necessarily build on anything. It's just like, here's another cool trick. Punch him in the nose. No, there's no punching, but you know, it's just like a kind of another thing. And it's hard for me to kind of build on it. I was telling that story to a friend of mine the other day and he had a good take on it. He said like, well, I think it, you know, you probably could, if you'd go for three or four years doing that, then eventually it would all kind of fall into place where you'd be like, oh, I get it now. It's kind of making more sense. I've been doing it for not, that's not even a year. I don't know, you know, six, eight months, something like that with some gaps in there. But, so I'm very early on in the process and it's not, I wouldn't say it's coming together for me, you know? Yeah. But are you sparring in the classes? Yeah. Yeah. The classes are, the classes, you know, about an hour, it's kind of more drills where you, okay, we're learning this technique and you're, you're with a partner and they know what you're doing and you know what you're doing and they're basically helping you do it. So it's not like it's hard to do the thing. Some of them are more complex, the moves than others, trying to put in the sequences together. And then usually at the end of class, generally then there's time to roll or to spar. And we just try to use little six minute rolls. And those are hard. I mean, they're physically demanding. You know, you're pretty worn out after doing those. You know, it takes some time to kind of get, it gets a mental thing and a physical thing because, you know, somebody's trying to choke you and you're rolling around with them and they're bigger than you or they're better than you or they're always better than I am at the, like at the skill. And so, you know, it's just trying to kind of, kind of get through that. So that's, that can be a challenge for sure. So just to that, I understand, and our listeners as well, like what do you, what do you, what is a roll? Like I know what sparring is. Yeah, it's the same thing as sparring. In jujitsu, if you're a jujitsu person, you'll hear, if you talk to jujitsu people, you'll hear them say roll. Like, hey, do you want to roll? And it's just wrestle, spar is all it is. There are, you know, you can, you can be, you can compete, like you can go to tournaments and stuff that I don't, but you can do that and you're basically trying to earn points and get through a six minute round and that kind of thing. But, you know, if you're just doing it for general fitness or mental awareness or self-defense, you know, I guess that those are the reasons that I really, I'm a little more involved in it. I'm not really interested in, not really interested in going to a tournament, competing and that kind of thing, but. You just want to be, you want to be threatening or at least being able, be confident that you can kick anyone's ass when you walk into a restaurant. Well, no, I want to be confident that I can, that I can get away, that I can, that I can get, get away and give my family away. I'm not really interested in like, you know, I don't want to, I'm way past the age of going into a bar and being like, who are we going to fight tonight? Actually, I don't know that I ever really went through that phase, but, you know, like I associate that with sort of a younger, you know, 18 to 22 year old sort of testosterone filled person. But yeah, I mean, I just think it's a good thing to be able to, it makes you comfortable. I've heard this, this is, I'm not, I'm not, this is not the original person saying this, but it makes you comfortable in uncomfortable situations, which I think is nice because it's uncomfortable for most people. It's unusual to have somebody that close to you trying to, not to say hurt you, but trying to choke you, trying to get you to give up. And that is a very, I think it's a very frightening thing for a lot of people. If you haven't, if you haven't been in that kind of situation before, and when you are, when you're practicing jujitsu, you know, with in a class with people you trust, like you get to do that over and over and over and over and over with the confidence that they're not really trying to hurt you. But even though your brain kind of knows that your body is still having to react to it in a way of like fight or flight, you know, sort of like, you know, how would you react to a situation in a real emergency kind of thing? And so what I think it does is it just sort of helps you not have to, not have to go through that stage if you were, if you were attacked physically or threatened physically, to not have to go through that stage of like, oh, shoot, what do I do? Instead, just kind of go right into like, okay, well, I know how to handle this situation, like this sort of physical arrangement of two people, you handle it, and then, and then you make your next, next decision. And yeah, you know, for for self defense, it's defense people. I mean, the goal is not to, you know, throw somebody on the ground, choke them out and kill the guy, you know, so you win the fight. It's, it's to live, it's to get away. Right? Yeah. I mean, I don't know, 40 something, how many coward all you want, you know, you know, you can just try to try to handle yourself, handle the situation, get out of it, and move on. And, you know, hopefully, there's some punishment that comes to the other person, if they were if they were really in the wrong, you know, hopefully they get caught by the police and punished and go to jail and all that good stuff. And you can you can laugh, laugh it up later on. But to go into with the idea of like, I gotta kill this guy. You know, if, if I gotta get if somebody's trying to kill my kids, and it comes down to that, it's I certainly wouldn't, I wouldn't hesitate. But it's not, it's not the goal of a practice like jiu jitsu or something. Yeah. Like, like the way that you've gone from like, I don't really know very well, but then you're like, I wouldn't hesitate to kill somebody. Oh, absolutely. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's not. Yeah, I've, I've come to, I've come to terms with that just fine. You know, I don't walk around thinking about it or wanting it. In fact, quite the opposite. I would never, I never want things to come to that. But, but I don't think I would spend any time thinking about it. Like, Oh, do I really need to do this? If it were a situation where that, you know, my life or the lives of my loved ones were threatened, and there's not another, there's not another escape? You know? Yeah. This isn't a self defense podcast, but you know, people make a lot of people make a lot of mistakes. I think when you kind of think about it, if you're not practicing, or you're not training, you're not are you not really spending time thinking about it? It's easy to let your brain get trained by movies and special effects. And what we see, you know, it's like, ah, somebody comes in here, you bump your car and they're road raging. So you get out to handle the confrontation. Like, no, you're in your car. Drive away. Like, don't get out really drive. I got a gun. Yeah, your bullet weighs, you know, a two ounces, your car weighs 2000 pounds, you already have a bigger gun than that guy to like, run them over or drive away. You know, yeah, there's there's sort of things that we do, or we think about or we picture ourselves doing because it looks good in a movie, in an action film or whatever. But the reality of it is, there are a lot better ways to handle situations that don't look quite as cool on our adventure film, you know, so there's better ways to kill a person and running over them with your car is one way. Running over so he can kill him. Sure. I'm not talking about killing him. The goal is not to kill him. The goal is to not be killed for you and your loved ones to not be killed. If it requires that somebody else that's trying to harm you dies in the process. I mean, that's a better outcome than you getting killed. The best outcome is you get away and maybe they get arrested or maybe they fall down and break their nose. That'd be funny. But, you know, yeah, I mean, I have so many places I want to go with this. Like, it's, you know, how do we get to the point where we're contemplating killing another person? Like, it's yeah, sure. This person came in. They're very threatening. They did something that we found offensive. But but the place of sort of ending their life, maybe because if they sort of slapped, you know, your your your significant other on the ass or they push your kid down, it's like, I'm going to kill this guy. Like the like the the the the the level, I guess the escalation level, it's sort of there with a lot of conversations, a lot of people, you know, people get into, you know, self defense, people who watch movies, people who you just have just, you know, walk down the street and just want to want to be offended to kill somebody. I don't know. But it's it's it's funny that, you know, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully our listeners don't don't get in the car and go run someone over. Hopefully you don't. That is certainly not what I'm. But you you bring up a lot. I mean, there's a whole lot of directions that I can go with that. And it's funny that you bring that up, because. I, as I say, everything I said was true, I don't walk around trying to find somebody to hurt. Again, you know, I'm not I'm not a big guy. I'm not a super strong guy. You know, I feel like I've tried to try to be able to handle myself if I needed to in a in an emergency situation. But other than that, I just try to avoid those things. And avoidance, I think, is the best is the best defense in a lot of those situations. But I do talk a big game, like to friends and family the way I do on this podcast, like I would. And then I told that guy to whatever. But I didn't really tell that guy anything. It's like that's how I tell my stories. I told him to screw off. She's like, really? And like, no, I didn't say anything. I just got my car and left. Nowadays, she knows that I told him to whatever. And she's like, OK, you know, she knows that I didn't say that. But I do say things like. This is totally my fault. I'll I'll explain why it's my fault and I'll explain the outcome of it. You know, like if that cat pees on my front lawn, I'm going to shoot it in the face. It's like way over the top because I think it's funny. Like, I'm really going to. I don't. My neighbor has a cat. It had two cats. One of them got probably eaten by a coyote or something, which is fantastic. But the other cat they have still around is the outside outside all the time. Cat. Oh, that's a whole thing, too. That's an episode. Anyway, let's pause that. I was threatening the cat, not to my neighbor. I wouldn't I wouldn't hurt my neighbor's cat. I would just the cat directly. Yeah. Other than in self-defense, I'm not going to harm a cat as much as I hate them. But anyway, but I would say things like that, just over the top statements that can make kids. I'm not going to shoot the cat in the face. And I thought they knew that this morning. I was downstairs in my kitchen making breakfast. And I hear my older son debating with debating is the nice term with my younger son, as they do most mornings. You know, just at each other. And then the older son says, I'm going to shoot you in the face. He was. Oh, that's probably my fault. That's probably my fault. I did call him downstairs. Come downstairs, please, son. And and I had a calm conversation with him. He was not. He was very unhappy this morning. He just gets so fed up with his brother. I was like, you can't. Well, he's he didn't brush his teeth. I'm like, whatever happened before you said what you said doesn't matter. Even if he kicked you in the shin, you can't threaten to shoot your brother in the face like he's your brother. Yeah. So we got to follow up that conversation a little more this afternoon. But anyway, I'm going to say that's probably my fault and not my wife's fault. So I'll take I'll take credit for that one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is really I mean, like we as adults, we do have our humor. You know, people get it. Other people get it. Yeah. But there's a point that there's a point where where you realize that all humor is kind of evil and kind of mean. And then, you know, it's usually when our children like, you know, repeated or say something similar. So my mind is an only child. And I was sort of telling him something. I think I was saying. What are they saying? You've got to hang around the right people. You can't if someone's there was a birthday party, there were these boys or the group of boys. All the boys were like kind of standing around a vending machine. And there's like one kid banging on it. The other kids were kind of laughing and it was a kind of, you know, it was fun in the moment for them. But from the as a parent looking at it at this venue, it's a bit, you know, what are these animals and what are they doing? And one of the parents grabbed their child and like sort of left to the party while the other ones, you know, sort of went on and do other things. And so using that as an example of saying to my son, look, hey, you know, when that stuff happens, you know, if we're going to drop you off at someone's birthday party, you know, if people start doing bad things, things that you're around, you saying that, oh, I wasn't part of it. I was just sort of standing there. That's not good enough, you know, because someone's going to come in and they're going to see you and then you're going to go and get in trouble with everyone else because you're there by proximity. So, you know, try to take a step back and not be a part of that. But, you know, in that sort of conversation, he kind of rolled his eyes. Oh, you know, I think you got it from me. You know, when I'm arguing with my wife, I kind of I'm kind of like, OK, that's not what you would do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so now it's like, you know, don't roll your eyes. That's not that's not fair. You do it. As I say, as I do. Yeah. So it is a bit of a mirror moment or mirror being held up to you at the parent, you know, when these when these things happen. So, yeah. So maybe maybe you could say, like, you know, I'm going to jujitsu that cat. I'm going to break that cat's back with a jujitsu move. Maybe that's a little more acceptable than a bullet to the face. Well, maybe I'm going to have a stern word with that cat. Maybe the baby. That's good stuff, because you I want to do things, but there are things I wouldn't do. I would like to shoot the cat. I mean, I don't I'm opposed to outdoor cats and outdoor cat. That's the problem. If we have outdoor cats. Oh, absolutely. We need an episode about cats. I mean, I think it's a two part because I'm curious about your opinions on cats. But OK, you're opposed to outdoor cats. Well, this is a bit. Should we talk about other cats for a minute? Well, I mean, I mean, we can't we can't not talk about we could we could talk about cats. And you know what? This may be our first two part, two part bonus special to two topic. Yeah. Wrestling people and shooting cats in the face. Yeah. Let me let me throw this out there. I've never shot a cat before. I don't I would like to, but I don't picture ever doing it. Not because like there's not an opportunity. I have opportunity a half a dozen times a day. This cat walks right through my yard, but I'm not going to I'm not going to shoot. What vexes you about this cat? I'm sorry. I need to understand this cat like this cat. I mean, it's not this particular cat. I mean, I don't want any cat. You just. Yeah. OK. But if if someone has a cat. Yeah. And they keep that cat in their house, that's fine. I mean, I hate going to their house if it smells like cat or whatever. But and I had a little cat, you know, sniffles. They get a little allergic to them. But that's fine. Yeah. But outdoor cats, they eat a lot of birds, a lot of birds. And so I think I think having an outdoor cat that you keep outside basically at any time unsupervised is a sort of irresponsible cat ownership. I'm not concerned with the cat safety. I love it when cats get eaten by coyotes or bald eagles or whatever. I don't know if that ever happens. Seems like it should. What kind of what kind of birds are you are you looking to protect against these these vicious indoor cats that are outside? What are the species of birds? And you have any statistics that you'd like to add to to back up your. I the birds are generally just like general songbirds, so like your backyard, you got the backyard, you're like, oh, listen to all the birds. Those birds are getting eaten by cats. I mean, they're not eating penguins and bald eagles, you know, but they're eating, you know, whatever's around songbirds, robins and all kind of stuff. Typically, we talk about native birds, but there are a lot of there are a lot of songbirds that aren't necessarily native in our in our yards, depending on what part of the country you live in or what part of the world everybody's got. But yes, they kill a lot. As far as statistics, yes, I have them, but we've banished ourselves from Googling live on these podcasts, so I'm not going to start yammering away in Google trying to find those. You know what we need? We need like we need an A.I. chatbot that can answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unpopular opinions dot A.I. or something, you know, check me, check me. But yeah. So anyway, yes, there is a there's a great article by. Who is it by? Nature Conservancy or no, it's not that Audubon Society, maybe now that would be like that'd be too on the nose because they'd be, you know, a little biased. Anyway, nature is by nature. I don't know. I'll look it up. Maybe I'll put a link in the show notes that they say. But yeah, there's a there's an article that goes in a study that sort of talks about it. But there's also a great infographic, I think, by this guy who used to do the X, X, K, CD or something. There was a web comic thing. Are you familiar with this? No, not. But I guess I'm trying to I'm trying to understand because obviously you have a you don't like cats, specifically the outdoor cats. But the reason that you don't like the outdoor cats is because of the damage they're causing to the ecological or at least to the bird songbird population who are out there, you know, trying to trying to woo other other female birds. I assume are trying to get laid. But these cats come around and they're just like pouncing on them and just cock blocking all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not eating them, are they? Are they kind of like are they P word blocking because they're cats? I don't. Yeah. Sorry. Oh, yeah. Anyway, so yeah, a cat reference. Yeah. My hatred of cats is too is is too pronged. It's not right. There's two reasons. One is that the birds, the outdoor cats are eating the birds. Yeah. And then the other is it's like cats. I don't know. It is not. They're just not great. I don't like them as a pet. But that's not a that's not like my my you're wrong if you like cats opinion, because I don't think you're wrong if you like cats. If you like cats, I just think you're a cat person. Like, all right, well, whatever. I don't like cats. It's just like, you know, OK, well, it's your choice kind of thing. But but like the letting your cats outside. Yeah, whatever. If you if you have your own private escalator in your house and you want to stand on it all day long, that's great. When you go into a public escalator and you stand on it. Yeah. Yeah. It's my favorite episode. So I was doing a lot of traveling this week, John, and I was in a place after even after traveling out of that place with a lot of escalators and moving sidewalks. Yeah. I've been angry for three days and it's like 70 percent because of escalators and moving sidewalks. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. You know, if you have an outdoor cat or you keep your cat outside, don't watch it and let it eat all the birds. Yeah. OK. Maybe if you keep like a giant muzzle on your cat, like a big mesh ball around your cat's face where they can't get to anything, like little little wine, little wine corks on their on their nails. Yeah. Something like that. I picture like the thing that Anthony Hopkins is wearing on his face in Silence of the Lambs, you know, so he can't eat anybody. Yeah. Like that. But for cats, I think it'd be good. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking, you know, cats should go outside. My cat got out yesterday and there's a moment in my mind where I was like, yeah, just let him go. Let him go. Yeah. I'm sitting with him on my keyboard. You know, he's he's lovable. He probably keeps the rodent issue down, but just let him go. If you let him go, if you let him go, you should just break his neck in his sleep, because that way you're letting the cat go. He's dying dreamily and happily. And he's not been eating birds, because if you just literally let him go, if you're just like running for your life, feline friend, and he goes outside, he's going to go and eat all those birds. But if you just break his neck in his sleep, then it's over. He was dreaming about birds. No birds were harmed in the whole thing. And you're free of a cat that pees on the floor and jumps on your keyboard. Win-win situation. Now, I guess, is there a jiu-jitsu move where I can break a cat's neck? Is there something that you've learned in your six months at jiu-jitsu that wouldn't allow? That's a good question. We don't do, we don't do cat jiu-jitsu. I've never learned. I've never learned how to defend against the cat. But there is, like, there are a number of holds that involve the neck and what you call a vascular restraint, which is, you're not breaking someone's neck, but essentially you're compressing the arteries on either side of the neck, which just, which reduces or stops blood flow to the brain. And somebody very quickly passes out. It's generally, it's generally not lethal. And it's generally not even harmful. A person passes out and they wake up a few seconds later and they have, they wake up feeling fantastic. Like they had a fantastic nap and they don't remember it. And the other person is scared for a few seconds and then they're fine. But maybe you can do that on a cat, but that doesn't meet the requirements because the cat wakes back up and they're happy. And then they go out and eat birds. I'm implying that you break the cat's neck and not, you know, no, don't torture the cat. That's no good. You hear about kids duct tape and cats and stuff. That's just evil, man. I don't know where that came. I think I read a news article about many, many years ago, but you know, that's like tortured animals. That's no good. That's kind of a sign that child might turn into a serial killer. But you know, if you just lovingly break its neck while it's sleeping, I think that's a, it's like an act of kindness and mercy to birds and. I don't know, maybe not cats, but the birds, yeah. Birds are, they're singing to you. They're singing songs. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for killing the cat. Well, they were first on after you. Yeah. Wow. Well, you know, I'm hoping that your week turns out a little bit better, or at least that's a new week. Again, you're, you're above ground and they're cats outside. Yeah. Yeah. Turn off, turn off better than cats. Yeah. Well, it's been interesting. That was a weird episode, but you know, whatever happens happens. Maybe at the end of each episode, we just add like a word. It was, you know, yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to go with interesting on that one. No, I like that. I like that. Let's get score it. Very good. Score it, put it on our analytics. Okay. All right. I see your eyes are glazing over. Oh, they're not glazing over, but yeah. Oh, there is one thing I want. This is, this is unrelated, but I wanted to throw this in. I've been meaning to throw this in here. We need to throw this in occasionally on episodes, but this is a little side note. I'm just going to do it right here while we're, while we're on, but this is to our viewers who want to, who want to get involved, but who want to send us a message. We've been referring to this quite a bit. We usually say like, eh, we'll tell you how to get ahold of us, but I've been putting it in the show notes. If you, if you look at the show notes for the show, but, and I, and I've stuck it in his audio once or twice, but I do want to say that we do now have a phone number, John, where you can call or text us. That's exciting. 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