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Two friends discuss ghost hunting, joking that real hauntings are harder than movies suggest. They debate Florida’s chaotic reputation before shifting to their shared history with a haunting entity named "Timmy." One recounts seeing a figure walk through walls in their current building, while the other describes growing up in a creepy Victorian house on Elm Street. There, she played with an invisible elderly gentleman who terrified her and neighbors. Despite differing perceptions of Timmy’s age and demeanor, both agree he was mischievous rather than malicious, recalling childhood antics involving fireworks and family gatherings. So we're gonna go for the dumbass go for ghost thing? You know what? No. Fuck those ghosts. I mean you can, but it requires a lot more people than just you. It is so much more difficult than the movies portray it to be. Like, have you ever had a ghost boyfriend? No. Bro. No. I've been ghosted by a boyfriend or two, but that's not the same thing. You know what? It always turns out they're doing you a favor. I met a lady the other day who was saying how, you know, oh man, she's going through a divorce, you know. And I says, oh good, I go to high five her. She's like, no, he left me. I'm like, yeah, he did you a favor, high five. You know, she's like, yeah. But like, I'm like, honey... There are others out there. I'm like, honey, you don't see it now, but like, go and look in that mirror, you pretty. He did you the favor. Get you a ghost boyfriend. They don't talk. Yeah, but they... They'll leave you too. Yeah, but you heard about that one woman who married the pirate ghost? And then he cheated on her, so they got a pirate ghost divorce. No, I did not hear about this. Oh, it's a whole thing. Definitely some New Orleans nonsense. It wasn't even in New Orleans. I think it was probably Florida. Oh well, that explains everything. Meth, alligators, and rapey dolphins. It's Florida. Well, all dolphins are rapey. Yeah, but they're extra rapey when they're high on meth. Woo! Can't keep the meth out of it over there. You cannot, man. Everything's pretty messed up in Florida. It's always messed up. Then if you get meth mouth, it's a whole nother issue. Oh my god, that is a whole thing. So, what we're gonna talk about today is Timmy part two from my side. Mm-hmm. Because I do believe that you and I had a extremely different experience with the Timmy teamster. We absolutely did. We probably shouldn't be saying his name should be. Okay, so, all right, this building that we're sitting in is absolutely haunted. I was sitting in here yesterday towards the end of the day, I was putting some lights up, just getting some stuff together, you know, trying to finish up this display so it would look nice. Sorry, it looks good. And it was just me and Tiny was in here with me. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I know. But he was there, and he was right there, right where you are, but he was like... Should move. It was just us. I know it was just us because I just checked all the doors. I just wanted to finish this up before out the front door. Yes, I have cameras. But that's what happened. The camera went off over there, it's the spotlight cam. And so I was like, well, who's in here with us? And I looked and I straight up saw a whole person walk through the wall and I was like... Yeah. I mean, I don't care, you know, I love you. Do you think it's Timmy? I don't think it is, no. Are you sure? Yeah, I haven't... Timmy hasn't bothered me since I was 17. Well, me neither, but we'll get there. Good god, that's you making that noise. Scared the shit out of me. Sorry. Knock once. You're like, oh, you think Timmy's here? Random serious click from out of the ether. What the fuck. Oh, but that would track completely. It absolutely would. I would be like, you know what? This is my life now. I walk outside and there's big old chunks spitting out of the building. It's fine. There is a point where it just becomes normal. It really does. But what is chaos for the fly is dinner for the spider. It's normal for the spider. It's just a snack. It's breakfast. It's okay. So, we grew up, well, we grew up in different houses, but I lived in the house you grew up in. You're very familiar with that house. For, yeah, for a brief period of time. And for those of you joining in... Well, apartment, because we didn't... We lived in this house on Elm Street about the time the films came out there. Oh yeah, no, that was great because we lived at six and a half Elm Street. Yeah, it was... And... They had the Freddy Krueger Elm Street come out. Yeah. Near Elm Street, that was great. It was fun. My mom made me watch it. And now we were in the third floor apartment in a Victorian house. It was built the very beginning of the Victorian area, built 1880s. That basement. Oh my god, that basement. So the basement itself like seemed to be much bigger than the house, which was creepy. Because I can't describe this to y'all any better than what I'm about to do. So if you looked at it from the outside, you can look at it on Google, you know, it's six Elm Street in Norwalk. Don't do that. Go ahead. You'll see it's like this weird office building, but you see like touching it, like they're mating, like they were in the middle of making baby houses when they were frozen in time, was the Victorian house. Wow, that is an interesting way to put that. I would not have phrased it like that. That's what it looked like. It was like the mid-coitus. And then they got frozen by Medusa walked by, was like, no! And they were like, and now we're a house, right? Is that how all houses are made? That's where baby tiny homes come from when two houses fall in love. And, but yeah, it was a big office building up front, and then I think they put that on after the original house was there. Much later. That was put together in the, in the 60s. Everything's... The DeMillos put it in the 60s, yeah. Late 60s, early 70s, because it had two apartments and it had four offices, so. Yeah, I used to run around in there a lot. I used to also. Just terrorize the people. Oh my god. And then behind us was an old house too, an old Victorian house, which was the landlord's house, the DeMillos. But our basement, okay, so they paved everything that would be a yard in the back, so it was like a parking lot for everybody. Only the DeMillos had a yard, and there was like a little, you know, grassy area in the front. That basement, now we were kids, so we'd want to hang out in the basement, and it had these compartments in there. Yeah. It wasn't a normal basement like y'all picture, and that's where you go down for your laundry. No, it was like weird. Very, very weird. I feel like we had to come in a few times. And the furnace was gross and creepy. It was creepy and gross. I mean, it didn't even work good enough to get the heat up to us. We had that creepy... We were lucky we were in the attic, otherwise we would have froze to death. Probably. God, I thought I was gonna a few times in that bedroom of ours. No shit. But that's, you know. So the house was old, had its fair share of ghosts, which I experienced a few ghosts myself growing up there, but... You had this imaginary friend, which we talked about a few episodes ago. He wasn't imaginary, Audrey Jr. Okay, listen. When I say imaginary, he's invisible. How about that? Invisible friend. That only you could see him. Nope, that's not true. Nope. But I will say that you didn't have the same experience that I did. I did not. My experience was like somebody took Loki and gave him a bunch of whiskey and decided to try to get him to fight, except nobody was there to fight except the house I was living in. Yeah, well, you know, that's okay. But so I can't tell exactly which experiences were specifically from him versus experiences that were specifically other ghosts. But I do know some instances that were specifically him, because like I could pick him out of a lineup right now. Right, you never really described him to me when you were a kid. Okay, so he's a gentleman in his like later 60s, balding, kind of white hair, blue eyes. A bit of a beard, not like an entire beard, but a bit of scraggly beard there, like he just kind of gave up. Like a little wee pirate beard, if you will. Yeah, yeah, exactly. See, I always kind of felt he would have been a teenager, you know? No. No, no, no, not how he presented to me. I always felt like he was an angry teenager who died too soon and was just furious at the world. He seemed more like a grandpa. Hmm. My own grandpa. So yeah, so that's like the vibe that he got, and always khakis and like a... Polo shirt? Or button down? Okay. Always long sleeves. Just like Freddy Krueger. No. No, because Freddy Krueger was a terrible person. Well, yeah. That's why they burned him alive. In my experience with him was that he was a terrible person. That's fine. He wasn't a child molester though. No, I mean no, he's a child terrorizer though. Terrorized me and them poor kids in that house. So, but basically from my experience is that like we would hang out. I would come home from school and my mother would ignore me because it was the 80s and 90s. Man, there's that beer to get to. Right. Those cigarettes aren't gonna smoke themselves. They were not gonna smoke themselves. Not especially not chain smoking them. Mm-mm. But yeah, so I'd be in my room and you know, I'd have my little toy cars and he would play cars with me. And so I can see him faintly, and then the car would just roll across the floor, and then I would make my car chase it, and I would laugh because it was fun. And Audrey would come in and be very confused about what was so entertaining. She did that a lot though, like she was not very present, but she would pop in and be like, what are you doing? And you'd be like, reading a book. And she'd be like, you better be. And I'm like... No, no, I'm sitting on a pile of explosives and I'm about to figure out how to explode this whole place. No, but we did sit on explosives. Yes, you did. Remember at Nanny's house? That was our childhood. Oh yeah. But yeah, so I remember very clearly one time, this is only one time for me, the cops had come because fireworks are illegal in Connecticut. And we got it from our truck driver uncle, Uncle Lewis. Remember Uncle Lewis? I do. He was my favorite uncle. He'd bring his guitar and they'd all play in the band down the basement. We'd be playing the vacuum cleaner hose. It was great. As you do. So Uncle Lewis brings us fireworks and we're setting them off, and it's not hard to tell where the fireworks are coming from. It's almost like there's a trail of smoke right into the house. And we were right on the corner. Yes, yes. So the cops come and my mom hands me, our mom I guess, comes in and hands me this lovely giant package of fireworks. She's like, go hide it under the bed in the room. In my bedroom, yes. And so I'm like, oh, okay, sure, I'll be an accessory. And I run in there and I stuff them, and like the cops like seconds behind me. And then you know, I'm sitting there on the floor like, oh yeah, nope, nothing to look at over here. Our parents made us do a lot of crime for people who are like, never lie and don't do crime. And then they'd be like, don't tell people the truth about this thing and lie to this cop. That was the 80s. You just summed it up right there. My god. It was like that for me too. In fact, when I was seven, they had these fireworks we would... You kind of nail into the garage, right? It goes whoo, like swirly whirls or something. Oh, okay. Things, right? Yeah. Well, that's a bad idea. You shouldn't nail fireworks to wooden structures. No shit. That's a question several aspects. Because it caught the garage on fire. That was not the exploding garage with the dynamite, which is another story. But that, and that too, they would always use my bedroom. I, a small child, they would use my bedroom to stash all these fireworks. So I'm sitting in literally a room full of explosives, lying to cops and looking normal. And you're a pyro, so. I was. I forgot that I was lighting everything on fire back then. I did. I found out nail polish burns. I found a lot of things are flammable. But I didn't have anything to play with. I had some dinosaurs, and I had a hammer, and some rusty nails, and a lighter, and a knife. That was my childhood. That's what I keep on me at all points. Yeah, except for the rusty nails. Disagree. I've got a pocket full of them on me at any moment. Rusty screws. I found them more effective. Someone parking in your spot? Not no more. Nothing gonna live there now. Right. Now you just park here forever. What? But yeah, so with the Timmy, he was definitely very real. And another good instance that I could think of that might have been him was when I was maybe ten, maybe eleven years old, closer to when we were getting ready to move out of there, because I was living out of there at about twelve is when we moved. Right. And so I'm sitting there, as kids that age do, just messing with the stuff in my room. And I was trying to figure out how to flip a quarter like properly. Yeah. So I was just doing it. And that's how you learned things back then, because you know, the internet wasn't a thing. I mean, you still got to try it even if you watch it on the internet or TV and try it at home. Yeah, but at least it explained how to do it. Right. And I wasn't going to go down to the library to figure out how to flip a coin. So... Or ask the old drunk people at the VFW, show me how to flip a coin. Right. But I was sitting there just messing with the quarter, and it stuck to the ceiling. Because it was that slanted attic ceiling. Yep. And so it stuck to the slant in it. And I was like... To give anybody out there listening a visual, it was a ten-twelve pitch on the roof that leveled out to a flat middle in the middle of the bedroom. So both sides were pitched in a ten-twelve pitch. And I'd also like to mention that it was right by where the closet door was. Yeah. So right in front of the closet door. That creepy ass closet too. But so I did that and it stuck. And I was like, that's interesting. So I went to my pile of change and I grabbed a penny and I flicked it up there. And guess what? The penny stuck. These things are not magnetic. No, they're not. They are not magnetic. No, I know, I've tried. So I rubbed my hand over it to see if there was like goo, or a substance, or tape, or something. Like it didn't make sense, but I'm like, I got to find out why they're sticking. Right. And so I've nothing over there. So I'm like, okay, let me see how far I can get this to go. So I kind of kept flicking them and it made an arc. Almost like half of an M, or I guess they call those Ns now. Yeah. But it made this arc and I was so creeped out by it, I brought Odd and Jack into the room and I was like, look at this. Didn't Mom take a picture of that? There's a picture of that somewhere in the world right now. They were so fascinated by it. This was an actual evidence that I could say, look, I have been telling you this entire time. This is actually real. So they were so creeped out by it that they took pictures of it. And yeah, someday I'll find those pictures and we can put them up. Yeah, I absolutely would love to see those. But so, you know, I didn't want to sleep in the room that night because I thought that was weird enough. And I slept out in the living room I think that night, or maybe in Odd's and Jack's bed right in the middle. Because I'm not shy about that. Yeah, no, that's absolutely. But the next day they were gone. So it turns out, while you were telling this part of the story, which I of course know being your sister, I just kind of wanted to Google and see, because I felt like I'd heard similar stories in my life, you know, doing what we do. Never, I'm original. Doing what we do. People come up to us all the time on the tours and they're like, man, you really inspired me to feel comfortable. I thought I was crazy, but this experience happened to me. And you know, I've been collecting those experiences for years in my head. I don't know what I was going to do with them. I maybe probably should have written them down, but you know, just... They're gone now. They're still there. They're just rattling around next to the dead brain cells from the eighties, all right. But it turns out there is a whole phenomena about this. That's a common viral phenomena often driven by micro suction, static electricity, latex paint characteristics, or natural surface residue. Our paint was lead, so. Yeah, no, I know it was. That is a fact. It wasn't that. No. So Google's like telling you, well, all the scientific reasons why it would stick. But no, I've been in that house. We had lead paint. It was a smooth surface. It was plaster over lath. There was no fucking reason for anything to stick there, trust me. And now that I say this out loud, this does make me think about another experience I had in Lafitte's Blacksmith Shop. I remember this. Do you? Because I don't think you do. I think you told me about this. Go on. No, I want to hear what you have to say first. Go. Didn't you have money stick to the wall in there? No, but so close. All right. What happened was... What happened was... This was back when it was a one-person bathroom. Yeah, one person. I have not been in there since it has been a two-person bathroom. Yeah. Never. Yeah. But it was a one-person bathroom. And it was set up so that, you know, you walked in, the sink was on the right. There was like a stall towards the back so somebody could wash their hands and poop at the same time. Mm-hmm. So I was in there by myself. Declare not to poop while washing their hands. Yeah, well, you don't want to do them at the same time because otherwise poop gets back on your hands and you got to wash them again. It's just a process. So I was in there by myself, right? And I looked at the sink and I said, okay, it's clean, there's soap. I went to go pee. I did my pee. I flushed the toilet. I came back out. And I did not wash my hands because the entire sink was covered in change. What the fuck? But you checked it before you went in. No, yeah, because I just checked. That's right, I remember this now. Oh my god. You were so close though. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was something like that. Like I thought you had change and you stuck to the wall for some reason. I don't remember. There's a lot of things. You got the two merged. In my brain. Yeah, that's okay. I'll give you a pass. A lot of things. Man, that place has a lot of stories. Yeah, but that's for another day. We got to focus on Timmy. Yeah, we're focusing now. So did he ever talk to you? Because he did talk to little girls in Cheryl's house, like her children. Yes. Gave me a whole instance. Like he told them names and he said he was here for me and menacingly and all that. Oh, I'm sure. I know that. I'll tell you my theory why in a little bit. But yeah, I'm pretty sure that's why we had different experiences. But like, yeah, he talked to me all the time. We'd literally hang out together. We were literally chilling. We were buddies. Did he tell you where he came from or how he died or anything? No, because I didn't ask. I did not ask even in the least bit. But what ended up being another example of him speaking to me is when we were... You remember the bus incident? Oh yeah, I do. I got in so much trouble for that. For those of you who don't know, because I grew up in a Catholic household and you're told not to lie, and I was a good kid, straight A student, but my stepdad wasn't a good kid. And my stepdad was always accusing me of nonsense. And they would come home drunk from Eagles and lose money, and then they would accuse me of stealing, which I never did. I hated that. Well, that might have been my fault. Right. No, well, let me rephrase. That might have been Timmy's fault. What? So I went a whole summer grounded. I missed Ozzie and everything. Can't see him now unless you die first. Or we conjure him. I've seen him. We'll get back to that. Ozzfest. So from my perspective, it was Timmy. So Jack would leave Audrey like twenty dollars for cigarettes and alcohol or whatever it is that she was into. Never food. No. Cigarettes and beer, Audrey. Make sure we have that when I get home from work. Plenty of leftover for hot dogs. Lots of stuffed hot dogs. Torture. So he would leave the money on the table, right? And Timmy was like, hey, you know what? You deserve some nice stuff. You should take that money and put it in this bus. And I was like, bet, sounds like a good idea. At that point I was like, what, five or six? Yeah. So I was like, this is the best idea ever. I'm going to get rich. Yeah, you were five, because that was the last time I lived in the house. I was sixteen. So I went and I got it and I put it in my little bus. And then, you know, a couple days would go by, he's like, hey, you should do that again. And I was like, yes, you're right. You're my best interest looking out for me. And so I did it again and again and again. And finally it got to the point where they were in a massive argument. He was screaming at her about how dumb she was for losing all the money and she must have been spending it or doing something stupid with it. She was like, no, you're stupid because you never left it there. You're so stupid that you never put it anywhere. Yeah, and then it all went back to me blaming me. Right, sure, but you weren't there at that moment. Yeah, I was in my room because I was grounded. No, not right there. Nope. Because you would have remembered. But then at that point, I was like tired of them arguing and I was like, Timmy, this isn't fun, but I got to do something about this. So I came out of my room with giant fistful of money and I showed it to them and I'm like, is this what you're fighting about? And the look on their faces when they both realized they were wrong. Your father never apologized to me for... That no, it's okay. They never said shit else to me about that either. And the mother, who is still alive, the mother has said, "Well, you probably did something else that you you know you didn't get caught for." And I was like, "You can't just say I am sorry for accusing you for some people like why do you have such a issue? You have always a guilty conscience because I was literally accused of everything my entire childhood, teenagehood, you know, from eleven till sixteen. Of everything that went wrong in the house was my fault." Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, I don't know if that gives you trauma or not, but geez, hey now, no, that's not trauma. You sure you only get trauma from joining the military? Oh, right. I wish that the military is that cool. I was like, hey, no, I tried, they didn't want me. Or maybe apparently if you want to kill people, they don't want you. No, no, no, no. So, my theory with Timmy, and you said it whether you realize it or not, is that he was very supportive of me and cared about me. Very grandfatherly type figure. And you were much older. And apparently he's here. It wasn't me that time. No, no, okay. So y'all seriously, my calendar just ripped itself off the wall and threw itself on the floor. Thank you. Oh my goodness. I guess we should probably put this to rest after this episode. Yeah, we should never discuss Timmy again. The man who should not be named. Right, I am going to screw that to the fucking wall. I thought you were just going to screw it. I thought you were going to finish the
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