ENG 102 Final Podcast

The podcast discusses two Bible verses that are often frowned upon and misunderstood. The first verse suggests that it is better to dwell in the wilderness than with a contentious and angry woman. The second verse discusses the possibility of a man having multiple wives as long as he provides for them. The interpretation of these verses varies, and the discussion highlights the importance of comprehension and individual perception. The podcast concludes by acknowledging the controversial nature of these verses and the potential for different interpretations. Alright, on today's podcast after dark we've got our special guest here, Cassandra. The topic is the Bible after dark. Why the Bible after dark? Maybe because some people, they're firm believers in religion, and you know, in this religion specifically what we're talking about is Christianity, covering the Bible, they go to church, and they never get taught everything about the Bible at church, whether it's Bible study, Sunday school, Sunday church, whatever the case may be. So there's a lot of chapters, well, not chapters, but a lot of verses in the Bible that are frowned upon, and people really don't understand, so we're going to discuss a couple of those verses today. Are you ready for this, Cassandra? I am, go ahead. Okay, um, so I guess the first, the first verse that we're going to cover is from Proverbs chapter 21, verse 19, it says, or it reads, it is better to dwell in the wilderness than with a contentious, sorry, a contentious and angry woman. What does that mean to you? It is better to dwell in the darkness than a what? No, it is better to dwell in the wilderness than with a contentious and angry woman. So basically what it's saying is that it's better to be outside than to deal with a woman's emotion, to avoid a woman's emotion altogether. If that's how you're going to interpret it, it's in your words, so there's no right or wrong answer to your words on it. So how does that make you feel? I don't think that's a good concept. It's in the Bible though. So you're saying a woman is so strong headed, or the Bible is saying, you're saying that the Bible is saying a woman is so strong headed that it makes no sense dwelling or trying to come to some form of agreement or trying to understand her because she won't understand another's perspective. If that's how you take it, if I'm going off of how you're, you know, explaining it and elaborating on it, I do recall at one point in my life my grandfather telling me when I was younger, who was married to my grandmother up until she passed away, he told me never try to argue with a woman and try to understand why she's arguing. And I said, why grandpa? He said, because sometimes she don't even know what she's arguing about. So you're going to be lost right along with her. I mean, if that's going off of how you explain it and elaborate it, yes, that makes sense. But to me, I take it, I take that verse a little bit different. You know, it is better to dwell in the wilderness than with a contentious and angry woman. I think if tensions are high and, you know, you guys are going at it, it's probably best for somebody to walk away before the situation escalates and it becomes worse than what it is. It's not necessarily saying leave the woman, just dwell. So basically just go out, take a moment, come back. Maybe after things cool down. And that's just how I feel. I mean, I get what you're saying, but I feel like if a woman is angry and she's trying to express her emotions instead of walking her out, try to communicate and try to understand where she's coming from instead of just trying to see your way. So why do you think this got put in the book of Proverbs? I mean, maybe it's just psychology. I'm not sure. Because I'm really not sure why they put it in the Bible because I just, I really don't know. Well, I guess the question is, if you consider yourself Christian, do you not have faith and trust what the Bible reads? I do have faith and trust what the Bible reads, but I think that when they come up with these conclusions or whatever they're putting into this Bible, it's probably a study based on what has been happening or what is said to happen in human nature. Okay, so let me clarify. This is actually from the Old Testament. So before it got modified to the New Testament, before it got modified to the King James Version, it's the Old Testament. Yeah, but the Bible was written by a man, yes? A prophet, basically. Which that prophet is Jesus Christ. Right. So I have mixed feelings about it. I would agree with the statement, yes, to walk with a person, if they are getting way too angry. But then again, I think that communicating is best. Okay, well, you know, it really isn't where we can go to search the actual intent behind that verse. We just have to take it for what it reads. Right, and it's just your interpretation of it. I guess, okay, so if it's interpretation, you know, I guess that's where comprehension comes into play. How well do you comprehend, I guess, the grammar in a verse, you know? If strong words are being used, should you take the verse more seriously? Or is it all based on perception, how one wants to see it? But let's go on to the next one, all right? Next one, still from the Old Testament, is Exodus 21, chapter 21, verse 10. This is one of the verses that I brought to your attention a couple weeks ago. And, you know, you were thrown for a loop because you didn't believe that it was actually in the Bible. But again, this is the Bible After Dark podcast, and this is what we're discussing now. So, it reads, And that's verse 10. Verse 11, which is a conjunction of that, says, And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money. So, how do you feel about that verse? Now, let me clarify before you go into it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Bible is condoning polygamy. Polygamy is also known as plural marriage. It's a marital arrangement where a person is married to more than one spouse at a time. So, at no point in time is that verse, or, well, in the Bible it doesn't say, you know, polygamy is a thing. So, this verse specifically is saying, If he take him another wife, you know, her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage shall he not diminish. And I guess that's pertaining to, how I take it is, pertaining to divorce. You know, how I see it is, how we have modern day divorce and alimony. You know, that's where alimony comes into play. If you've been married to somebody for a certain amount of time, and you guys get divorced, you know, you're eligible for alimony. You know, for spousal support. And that's how I see this verse here. Well, how I would interpret it is, if he, if he has, if he's provided for that female, it's okay for him to have another wife? No. That's why it says in verse 11, And if he do not seize three unto her, then shall she go out free without money. I guess back in the time of, you know, when the Old Testament was written, I guess there was a price to pay when it comes to a woman wanting to leave her marriage. I'm not 100% sure on that. I just know from things I've heard in the past, just from the history of marriage, that's what I heard. But, yeah, this is something, this is something that, this is another verse that you don't hear going to church. And it definitely throws people the wrong way. Because of the sound of it. Yes. That can be easily misunderstood. And again, it's on, it's based on your interpretation. So if I should take the Bible up and just read that verse, I'm going to have a different interpretation than what you have. So, how do you interpret it? I just, it's mixed. I just, it's mixed. Because, like, one verse is saying this thing and then the other is saying another. So one is basically saying, to me, it says he can have another wife as long as he's provided. Well, like I said before, at no point in time is the Bible saying you can have another wife. You know, that's polygamy. And the Bible is typically against polygamy. In the Old Testament, there isn't the supporting chapters or the supporting book that promotes anti-polygamy, which is the book of Timothy. That's in the New Testament. It came later. So if it came later, it was written later, and before the Old Testament was published, why do you think that was? If the gray area there that the perception is the man can have another wife, according to the Old Testament, and there was no book of Timothy until the New Testament, was there an intent on, you know, I guess a deciding factor if men should have another wife, were they allowed to have another wife? And then, you know, later on down the road, they decided, oh, well, men shouldn't have another wife. What do you think happens? I guess it just depends on who's writing the Bible. I think, if I recall, I think Paul was the one writing the book of Timothy at the time, and it wasn't out already by the time the Old Testament was published. So would they say Jesus Christ was speaking to Paul to write that, for us to be following it? No. Is that like a law, a guide? No, there's different books in the Bible of, you know, people giving their insight and their story on their journey in that period of point in time. That's why there's so many characters in the Bible. You know, Jesus was not there in presence of everybody at the time, and everybody was experiencing everything. So we have to clarify, he wasn't there at the time everybody was giving or writing their part of the story, you know, to add to the Bible. But yeah, that pretty much sums up this podcast. But before we close out, I guess we'll go over a few things. How did you feel about these two Bible verses? I had mixed feelings about these two Bible verses. I had mixed feelings about these two Bible verses, honestly, because they're a bit contradicting to me. Because I could interpret them in many different ways, and who's going to tell me which is the right way and which is not? I get your point, but I mean, whether, however you decide to interpret them, they're still written in the Bible. It's always going to start a conversation. I guess that's why they say one of the things you don't want to get in a debate about with somebody is religion. Because there is room for perception in a lot of the verses, you know, good and bad. But there's plenty of other verses like this in the Bible that people may not be aware of. Some pretty interesting ones, some good stories. For people who are into that. But yeah, how do you think people should go about this? People that are firm believers in Christianity and going to church, how do you think they should feel about these verses in the Bible? If they're living their life following Christ and God. I genuinely think they should just trust whatever they believe in. Because you have to believe in something for you to even read the Bible in the first place. So, if you are going to read the Bible, I think your interpretation has to be on the better side, the good side. So just ignore all the other verses that don't really represent the good in the Bible. No, I would not say ignore it. But just try not to follow in the way. I mean, it depends on what you consider bad as well. It all depends. Because the Bible is not telling you to go and steal or do something that's out of ethics. No, but there is a verse in there that says that if a husband and a man get into a fight and the man that's married to the woman, the wife that's standing there watching, she should not jump in and grab the other man by the testicles pretty much. And if she does, then her hand shall be cut off. That verse is in the Bible. I have never heard of it. It's in there, but you know what? We'll leave that for the next episode of the Bible After Dark. I guess this summarizes what kind of reactions we get from these verses. I mean, it starts a conversation. It starts a good argument. And yeah, this is it. We're out.