The Business Huddle Marinus Link Full Interview

The Business Huddle discusses the Marinus Link project, a significant energy project connecting Tasmania and the mainland to support the transition to renewable energy. Mark Lindsay explains the project's role in ensuring energy reliability and enabling renewable energy development. Marinus Link aims to benefit local businesses and communities in Gippsland and the Latrobe Valley by creating job opportunities and boosting the economy. The project is in the final planning stages, with construction set to begin next year. Local industry and supply chain will be crucial for the project's success and long-term impact on the region. Get ready for the Insider's Guide to Local Business Stories. Welcome to the Business Huddle, your weekly passport into Gippsland's most inspiring businesses. Let's look at the game plan and get started. Connecting the community, 104.7 Gippsland FM. And a very good morning to you and welcome to the Business Huddle, your weekly passport into Gippsland's most inspiring business stories where we lift the lid on success, innovation and regional economic resilience. I'm your host, Melanie Kahane. Today we're sitting down with Mark Lindsay from a project that some may have heard of before, Marinus Link, and he's in to talk about this nation-building infrastructure project that's happening, probably one of the largest in Gippsland at the moment, and get his insights into some of the specific challenges this project actually brings, but not only that, the importance of this project is doing in the local Gippsland community. So get ready for an in-depth conversation with Mark Lindsay from Marinus Link coming right up after Shake It by Metro Station. Yeah, come on. I'll take you home if you don't leave me at the front door. Your body cold but girl, I'm getting so warm. And I'm thinking of ways that I could get inside. Let's get going now. 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But for listeners who may not know or be familiar, can you give us a snapshot of what the project is and the role it will play for Gitland and beyond? Yes, sure can. So Mariners Link is a 345 kilometre interconnector project, so transmission of energy between Tasmania and the mainland. We are a generator of the energy, but we'll be moving it around to the places that it's needed the most. So when on the mainland, as we know, we're going through quite a significant transition from fossil fuel generation into renewables. And so when we're on the mainland, and the mainland by which I mean our national electricity market, the NEM is made up of a connection between us here in Victoria, really from the Latrobe Valley, which has been the source of a vast amount of energy for over a century. And we connect into the South Australian grid through our networks that are existing, but also the New South Wales and Queensland. So as we know, when we turn coal down and we have renewables online, they can be less reliable than having that coal resource. So when on the mainland, the sun may not be shining and the wind may not be blowing, we need to have that base load of energy to be able to supply the demand. And having a connection point through to Tasmania, which has a vast hydro resource, we can then tap into that to be able to import the energy when we need it. And equally, when we're producing in our network, the national electricity network, that we can actually then send that energy down to Tasmania to use, which will then create an opportunity to be able to preserve that really valuable hydro resource for when it's needed most, so it can be distributed amongst the NEM. Yeah, wow. I feel like I probably didn't know much about what that actual project was. So you're saying it's connecting, are you connecting different sources of electricity or just being able to tap into where the energy is coming from and be able to top it up with hydro from Tasmania? So in real basic terms, it's an extension cord. It's an extension cord that runs between Latrobe Valley here in Victoria through to Tasmania, which then taps into their equivalent of their transmission. So we've got 255 kilometres of crossing Bass Strait and then we've got 90 kilometres of transmission from where we meet our coastline in South Gippsland in Warratah Bay and we'll be heading from Warratah Bay north into Latrobe Valley and joining the network here in Hazelwood. And I think I've seen some of the website, especially it does actually look like an extension cord. So you've shown that very well. And I'm certainly not an electrical engineer now. You're in good company here in the sense that it is the easiest and it's a really complicated industry with some really, really smart people that work in it. And for me, and when we're talking to our general community and the majority of our community, to explain it in a sense that really is easy to understand and really what is a complex space. To be able to say it's an extension cord that just connects two systems is the easiest way to be able to explain it. We are, as you mentioned, a nation building project and it's one of really high priority for our governments. We're owned by three governments, so we're a public project. So between Tasmania, Victorian and the Commonwealth Government. But our project was identified and has been identified regularly through the Australian Energy Market Operator, AEMO's integrated system plan, which is an independent approach to where our energy is needed. And MarinusLink is one of those critical projects that will create that reliability and base load or the distribution of the energy that's needed to secure our energy future. But it's also a real opportunity as an enabler for further development with renewable energy. So with that ability to be able to move the energy between the two networks, it's a real advantage for different developers who are thinking about investing and building renewable energy assets because they know that by generating it they can actually share it more broadly other than within one network. Yeah, it's critically important. And I guess large infrastructure projects really can bring real opportunities into regional areas. So what are some of the benefits you see MarinusLink delivering for the local businesses and communities here in Gippsland and the Latrobe Valley? Well, we're right at a final point of our planning and preparation to build MarinusLink. MarinusLink's been in planning for, you know, really geared up five to six years. We've had a presence in Latrobe Valley, have had an office in Trailwind for three years now. And we're getting close to construction. This year's been a really important year where we've achieved a number of milestones including our Australian and our Victorian environmental approvals process. We've achieved final investment decisions, so that's our shareholders, our three governments that agreed to the financial modelling for the project. We've also reached financial close in recent weeks, which means the funding's available to deliver the project. So we're geared up. We've got a couple of really important environmental approvals, processes and outcomes. We're expecting imminently to receive those from Tasmania. We've done a whole lot of work in that space, so we're confident that that will come through very soon. But importantly, we're right at the pointy end of executing our major civils and construction contract, which is where the vast majority of workforce contracting supply chain opportunities will be for people in the valley and also in South Gippsland. And we're hoping that through getting through these commercial arrangements with our preferred contractor, which I'm really pleased to share, it's a consortium called TASVIC Greenlink, which is made up of two major contractors, tier ones being Samsung and ET Infrastructure, that we should be in a position to be able to start work on MarinusLink in the early parts of next year. So it's what we do now with our local industry, our local supply chain, in connecting them with our contractor, TASVIC Greenlink, to enable those opportunities because as a very passionate Gippslander, I'm in South Gippsland. We won't hold that against you. But we are Gippslanders as a whole, aren't we? When we talk about it that way, we're really focused on creating as many local opportunities as we possibly can through the project. And our project's expected to last our Stage 1. So we're planning and focusing on Stage 1. That will run from, as I mentioned, next year, so 2026 right through to 2030 is our expected commissioning date. But we're really going to be gearing up once we get started into Stage 1 for a potential Stage 2 to follow, which will then add another two to three years on top of that. So our project potentially, if Stage 2's granted, pushing out to 2033, which when you look in the timeframe for a lot of other major renewable energy projects, i.e. offshore wind, et cetera, this is the start of a much larger pipeline of construction projects within the energy industry. And that's not taking into consideration the decommissioning of existing energy projects. It's significant for our region. We're really proud that we've moved through our approvals the way that we have over the last couple of years to get us into a position to be able to start construction next year. And the signals that that sends industry and potential development in other renewable energy investment is really important. Yeah, I can't imagine that would be easy having three governments to... No, it's been quite unique. Yeah, it is. And they've done a wonderful job. They really have working through the complexities of ownership. We're a start-up business really that's been developed over the last couple of years and having the guidance of each of the governments. And what that's meant is that we've done our due diligence in order to make sure that we're spending the taxpayer money like it's our own and we're going to get a good outcome out of the project, not only through moving energy where it's needed and hoping to reduce the costs of what is an increasing consumer cost for all of us, but also through the construction period, making sure that we get as many local outcomes as we possibly can, everything from trainees and apprenticeships all the way through to transitioning workforce from our current and existing fossil fuel and our coal industry at the moment. There's those opportunities too right through to all of our supply chain and anyone interested in working on Marist Link. Yeah, that's incredible. It's going to be a big one and something that's been brewing for years, so it'll be good to actually see it coming to life. You mentioned Samsung there and I feel like it sort of threw me a little bit because I'm thinking phones, but I'm thinking maybe a different arm or maybe some sort of technology that they use. It sure is, Mel. So Marist Link is an undersea and underground transmission project. Now we're using a technology that many people may be familiar with, they may not be, called high voltage direct current energy. So our cables are HVDC cables. Once we tap into the networks on each side, it uses a HVAC currency, so we need to convert that energy. So at each end of our 345 kilometres of cable, we need to build converter stations where it converts that energy source from DC to AC so it can go into the networks. Picture it like your mobile phone charger where it's got a little box on the end of it as you plug it into your wall. That's your miniature converter station. Now our converter station that we're building on Tramway Road in Hazelwood is the size of a large bunning shed with a whole bunch of outdoor infrastructure, gantries and outsheddings and things like that. That construction's all part of this new, what we call in the Balance of Works package, which is TASVIC Greenlink which is made up of Samsung and DT Infrastructure. Samsung's component of that is technical. They'll be making sure that all of the equipment, the electrical equipment, so the valve holes that are actually installed within the sheds, plus all the filtering that's needed to be constructed and installed as part of the converter station, they'll be overseeing and installing that gear. Highly technical and really skilled. Samsung's breadth of work is quite extraordinary and to be fair to say they're one of the leaders within the market. We've also, and it might be of interest to you as well, a lot of the supply of all of the electrical technical gear is coming through Hitachi, which is a very, very well-known brand in that space too. The reason we're using internationals for a lot of this work is it is highly specialised and much of it is only available internationally. Whilst that is a necessary need of the project, our opportunity now is through the building and the installation of a lot of this gear through the Balance of Works package. Incredible. Thank you. I think with that we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back after this. 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The kinds of local initiatives and groups in Gippsland it supports and how our listeners can get involved or apply? Our Community Grants and Sponsorship Program, it's been around 12 months young now and we've been really pleased with how that's rolled out over the last 12 months. We've had a couple of dozen successful recipients thereabouts that have received funding through the program already and it's open now so thanks for the opportunity to share this. Our round one of the funding for this financial year closes right at the end of this month in October so if there's any potential applications to come through after hearing this we're looking forward to seeing those. Our Community Grants is set up into two different streams. Community Grants where we provide funding for things like facility improvements, equipment purchase, those types of things up to $5000 and it doesn't need matching funding just to demonstrate how you're going to spend it but importantly that anything that's applied for aligns to Marist and Sustainability Framework and that's quite broad. Know your community, understand and respect the environment, those types of things more broadly but we also have a sponsorship arm which is up to $2000 which is for a group and a small community group and I should have mentioned that eligibility is really important to us and that you need to be an incorporated organisation, not for profit and there's a couple of other really important things not dissimilar to any other sports program but the sponsorships have been fantastic, it's provided really valuable funding for organisations, it might be an event they say, it could be an awards night, it could be sponsorship and a Marist Link logo on a sports uniform. We strategically aligned I guess the area that we support in line with where our project most impacts. So looking at townships such as Hazelwood, in the Valley of Petit, Hazelwood, Churchill and then heading up through the Stress Lake East where we get to the South Gippsland area, Mervyr North, Fish Creek, Marteams, all that sort of thing. But we certainly do consider and it's a part of our eligibility, it doesn't and it isn't only restricted to those townships that I mentioned but we will consider other applications from areas within the Latrobe City Council. Pleased to share that a couple of examples being the Mowi Cricket Club, we're able to support Indigenous round with their uniforms. The Morwell Recreation Reserve through the Football Club where they were able to build that amazing undercover outdoor area, we contributed a small amount of money to that. So there's examples there where we sit a little bit outside of just the alignment that the project's on as well but we're intending to continue that. As I mentioned it closes at the end of this month and then we'll assess each of the applications before the end of the calendar year and then we'll reopen for round two in January, closing them out before the end of the financial year. Now if anyone wants to jump on, all you have to do is jump on marinuslink.com.au and just in the header tabs, just click on the community tab and that'll take you straight to the page where it outlines the two different programs community grants and sports shoots. And yes, we here at Gippsland FM have applied that too as we are a not-for-profit registered charity as well. So yes, it's a great program. I highly recommend it. You guys are amazing to deal with as well. So thank you for giving I guess the community opportunities. When you're bringing something like this in, I think the community doesn't expect it but it's always really nice to have it. So we know that MarinusLink will rely heavily on skilled trades and with that in mind, why is it important for MarinusLink to sponsor the trades category in this year's Detroit City Business Chambers People's Choice Awards which is coming up. I was just talking to Scott Lowater from People's Choice Awards recently. What message do you think that sends to trades people that you'll be looking to hire from this region? We've been wrapped. We've jumped on board with such a really important event but also that connection piece being People's Choice. We just thought it was coming from community and coming from the business community is really important. When we start to build into our project and being able to connect different small to medium enterprises with our leading contractors, that'll be really important. So these networks that we're building are critical to that. Just for instance, next week I'll be heading out to La Trobe Valley Enterprises and having a chat and seeing the work they do and then seeing how we might be able to integrate them in with our major contractors. Also an incredible organization. I've done the tour there. They had an open day this year and I didn't actually realize the scope of what they actually do out there. I think Stephanie, the new CEO, will hopefully have her on the show in coming episodes but they just do such an important job so you I think are going to really enjoy that. I can't wait. Meeting with Steph on that, so that'll be fantastic. When it comes to sponsoring, we know that organizations, they really, and being a volunteer myself where I am, that's a really hard ask, getting people to back you in and invest. From us, it was the least that we As we move into construction, we need to have great relationships with our local supply chain and contractors and we want to do that. I'm really looking forward to the event. It's going to be a really good night. I will see you there. Yes, and being trades category, we jumped in really early and said, can we have that one because for obvious reasons it aligns very closely to building a big project like we are. Yeah, we actually are nominated as finalists this year as well, which is a lovely sort of recognition. So I think someone from the station will be there. We're just after talking to Scott today. It looks like it's going to be a really good night. I'm looking forward to that. On a Friday too, so we can have a bit of a sleep in the next day. And I guess sort of finally, as a sponsor of you're already supporting local voices and community connections, but how important is it for Mariners Link to be part of the community? And I think you did mention and I've just got it noted here to see where the project is at now, but being part of the community, you're moving into construction next year. You've mentioned it through the People's Choice Awards and how important it is to be involved there. Is this something that's in your strategic plan? Like this project has been going for years. I imagine it must feel like birthing a baby. It's been growing and growing and now it's time to get it out there. How does that feel? Mariners Link really, it was born out of Hobart. So we used early days of planning. It was really, well we were a subsidiary of TAS Networks, the utility service provider in Tassie. And as I think I mentioned a little bit earlier, we've had our office in the Macmillan's building in Trelwyn since around this time in 2022. We've got about I think we've got 14 people out of that office, maybe a dozen and many of us being Gippslanders. We expect that we're going to be growing significantly over the next 12 months with the presence in Gippsland. We've also got offices in not only Hobart but in Melbourne as the project's growing. Certainly from the early days it's probably doubled in its direct staffing but we can expect to see their growth in the Gippsland region and we'll be advocating for Gippslanders to take up those posts. Are you talking like more professional services? I know we've spoken about the trade component which is going to be managed through your contractor. Are you thinking about growing your offices down here in K Street? Yeah, we will be. It's inevitable and we've certainly had to grow quite quickly and we've brought in an integrated delivery partner, Jacobs, who are part of the MarinersLink family. They specialise in that project prep and project delivery space. So I would imagine that we'll expect to see a bunch of them plus some more MarinersLink people in the valley within the next 6-12 months as the project really ramps up. Importantly, embedding in the community whilst we've got a corporate office out of Traralgon, we've actually requested our major contractor, so that is Tasvik Greenlink, to create a shop front also around central to the project alignment. That's yet to be determined exactly what central means but we'll be looking at a shop front. So, not dissimilar to what Energy Oz have done in Morwell, what the Dalboom Wind Farm have done in Merthyr North, Starr of the South down in Yarran. We'll certainly have a footprint. It'll be managed by our leading contractor but us MarinersLinkers will certainly be able to access that as well because it's critical to actually embed ourselves within the community. We have a Gippsland stakeholder liaison group that we've had as part of three and a half years now and that gives us a real connection with key people within communities right along the impacted area that MarinersLink has. And those other community facing initiatives like grants and sponsorships, the really important work that our land access team are undertaking with all of our landholders along our 90 kilometres of alignment. It's certainly a commitment that we have and is picked, coming back to your point, yep, it is picked up in our strategy. So, our comms and engagement work really centres around working with community and getting to know your community and knowing who and when you connect in and how you do that too. Yeah, I think that hub idea is such a good idea. There are so many people who are curious and you know, even about the Energy Australia hub in Morwell as well. You can actually go in there and ask questions. Otherwise, sometimes you're just sort of looking at a computer and filling out a contact form like this is that real face-to-face which sort of shows, you know, we want to engage with you. Well, I'll be chewing Bertie's ear off to see the opportunity. See how he does it. Absolutely. That's awesome. Mark, thank you so much for joining me today on the business huddle. I really appreciate your time and I look forward to seeing you at the People's Choice Awards if you're coming up for it and yeah, thank you so much. Well, my pleasure and a quick reminder for any not-for-profits out there that might be in search of a small sponsorship or community grant, jump on marinuslink.com.au and hit the community tab. End of October. You've got a couple of weeks left. Alright, thanks Mark. 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