TeamNade Ep15

What is good everybody, welcome back to the Team Nade Podcast, episode 15, big 1-5, joined today by main man himself, Brian Obe. How we doing, Yen? I'm good man. I'm alright, I'm not too bad. Relaxing at school? Yeah, I guess. You guess? I guess. That doesn't sound convincing. I'm just reeling from the recent experiences in the playlist, bro. Okay, is this EU, NA, 200ms, Geofilters, what are we talking here? Doesn't matter, bro, I'm just getting slammed. Like, literally, does not matter. I am getting absolutely rolled. Sounds like a skill issue. In the only game I won today, Prosciutto was on the other team. Oh, sorry, Prosciutto. That felt so bad for him, bro, right? Because it was like, I think, obviously, he was stacking with that boy that he always stacks with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the guy. And then, like, there was two, well, one guy that I know is a comp player on the other team. And then, like, a guy that I didn't know, but he was nasty. He was fucking, he was disgusting. And then on our team, obviously, I knew what rank I was, and I was looking through the rest of the team, and I was like, this whole lobby is at least Onyx 1510. You know what I mean? Because I think that was, like, my rank, and I was like, I know everyone else in this lobby is higher than that. Yeah. Apart from Prosciutto. And, like, bro, like, it was a quadruple negative performance out of Prosciutto. I was about to say, it was a triple negative out of you? No, I did okay in that game. I think I broke even. Okay. Like, I was bottom of the leaderboard. It was just, you know what I mean? It was just my luck that Prosciutto dropped to 6-18, or else I would have been getting absolutely terrored. It wasn't Prosciutto's fault. It was the teammates' fault. It was your fault. You should know this by now. It's always our fault. We've always done it wrong. No, Prosciutto was on the other team, bro. Oh, he was on the other team? Yeah, the other team. So I was literally just like, thank God Prosciutto was on that team. But it wasn't you that managed to win that game. Because remember, it's always never your play. Yeah, it's always my fault. I mean, you know what I mean? All those games we played yesterday with, I don't know, game-saving multi-kills and that that were going on in the endgame, but my man was in the chat saying he wasn't picking up the ball because everyone was ignoring it when my man had two minutes straight on the ball. You know what I mean? Sorry, but I can't hold the ball to get a score on the ball if someone else is holding it. We're not going to two-man carry this one odd ball about like that. That's just not going to happen. You know what I mean? It's always the same though. Everybody's got their own ideology of how to play. And if it's not agreeing with their ideology, then it doesn't fucking matter. It's all wrong. That was the thing today, man. We played a streets odd ball. And I think we lost round one. We won round two. It was round three. But for the whole time, this one boy on my team was just full sending. So we'd have the setup in A, right? Yeah. And fair enough, you have the A side setup. And someone pushes down the neons, you know what I mean, towards the bottom end of the neons, right? Yeah. Or the bottom end of the cafe, sorry. But my guy was in C. And then when we had the C setup, he was all the way behind, back A. And it was just like, bro, you're so far extended that they're going to spawn two of them in PD, two of them in cafe, or three of them in PD and one of them in cafe. And they're all going to come out and they're going to kill you. And by the time that they fight the guy that's on the B rail, he's in a gunfight that he can't win because there's three of them. Yeah. And then so he dies. And then my man who was stood at the top of the trip steps, he gets rolled because he's now got three people peeking him off the B side, plus the guy pushing him in his face. And then I'm just stood there with the ball. And I'm like, great. Like, I was literally just like, I have no opportunity to scam her because no one's weak. Right? Yeah. Like, so there's no easy scam. It's just a hard scam. I'll play the ball out. And one of them like, catches it underneath me and starts walking in. Whilst I'm top C, like in the nest, he's walking in with the ball. And I'm like, oh, for fuck's sake, this couldn't have gone any worse. And then I die. And as soon as I die, my guy spawns up in the PD, bum rushes down the B side, walks down the driveway and just gets averaged. I immediately. And I was like, okay, cool. Next one. Fucking. That's an L then. That's a loss. So we have to chalk that one up. When it's Nisqy playing like that. No way. Elite that. Yeah. When are you bringing that back? I've not heard elite that in so long. Oh mate. That's, that's, that's specifically reserved for team-nading. Like if someone team-nades you, that is an elite that moment. And, um. 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You put a B at the start. That's all you've done. Sub. Short, man. Continue reading your fucking scores, bro. You're putting my personal business on blast on the podcast. What are we doing? What are we doing here, man? Oh, dear. Oh, dear. And then Sunday, the 3rd of March, we had New York Subliners 3, Heretics 0, Ultra 0. The fall off the Heretics has been bad, bro. Yeah. They've really come off for months. What's wrong with them, mate? Yeah. Invasion is not working for them anymore, I can tell you that. Ultra 0, Phase 3. That was the big game of the weekend. That was wild. That was mental. And then followed by LAT 3, Rocker 2, which actually turned out to be a banger of a game for the last one after the Phase game. I remember last week, I was like, oh, Ultra Phase in second, and then they followed up by LAT Rocker. That actually turned out to be quite a good game, because LAT were 2-0 up. Yeah, they almost got a bit of a sweat, didn't they? Did they go round 11 and search that? No, no. No, that didn't. No. It was the Phase Ultra that went round 11 in the search challenge. Yeah. Would you like me to run through next week's schedule before you've got something to tell us that was quite interesting? Oh, laughing with a cod, yeah, man. Yeah, go on, then. What have we got next week? Schedule first? I swear there's an Optic Phase coming up at some point. Oh, right. Well, Sunday's going to be a fun day. So, Friday the 8th of March, we've got Boston vs. Optic, Phase vs. LAT, and then Ravens vs. LAG. I think that's just going to be sweeps across the board. Oh, yeah. Optic sweep. Phase sweep. Phase sweep. LAG-Ravens. That could go... Oh, no, I actually think that's going to go round 11 game five. Yeah, that could go all the way. 1v1 between... who is it? LAG and... it's going to be Diamond Con 1v1. Who are they playing? Ravens. Ravens. Diamond Con Felony. 1v1. Round 11. Bomb down. That's what I'm saying. Squarehead vs. the Tilted Head. Can't get over my man's face, bro. He looks like it's carved out of a rock. Like, he looks like... you know what I mean? He looks kind of like Greek gods that fucking decided to play cod. I'm like, the wild thing was on his player cam, bro. All you could see was his face. You couldn't see anything else. It was just his face at, like, a weird angle. Yeah, I don't know why he sits at, like, this sort of, like, diagonal looking at his screen. It's so weird. I don't know. But it clearly works for him, though. Maybe we should be taking notes. I am not doing that. I'm not sitting at an angle looking at my PC. Saturday the 9th of March. LAG vs. New York. Rocker vs. Surge. And then FaZe vs. Boston. Probably New York sweep. Rocker vs. Surge could be either way. It's probably a big game for Rocker because they need to get back into winning ways. Yeah, I'm gonna need some help, bro. Yeah, he needs help. He's totally help. And then FaZe vs. Boston. That would be a sweep for FaZe, I reckon. Yeah. Then Sunday the 10th of March. LAT vs. Legion. Ravens vs. Heretics. And the big game for the weekend, Optic vs. Ultra. Optic vs. Ultra. That'll be a good game, man. Is that the last game on the Sunday? That is the last game on the Sunday, which starts at 10pm. I think that's gonna be a sweep. 10pm GMT? Is that right? GMT. Yeah, it'll be, like, 5pm EST, won't it? Yeah. Yeah, that'll be the best game of the weekend for me. As much as I'd like to back Optic, I still think Ultra will win that. Because Ultra just beat them just now. They are. Regardless of the FaZe loss, they're still dominant just now. Yeah, they are very good. Yeah, that is the scores and the schedule for the week. Now, tell us. Spill the tea, sis. Right. So after they won, yeah, the first thing that Draza does... FaZe. Okay, right. So FaZe beat Ultra 3-0, right? Yeah. First game was, like, pretty close. Game 2 was Rio Search. Which, like, FaZe played like a... It went round 11. I think Draza had, like, a fucking pistol ace or some shit in there. Like, it was wild, right? Nice. But, like, the way that they played the game on both sides was amazing, right? But FaZe kept doing this thing where they were basically just, like... They just send from one side of the map to the other. You know what I mean? So if they were on attack, as soon as they, like, sussed out a little bit of defensive setup, all four of them just went fuck off to the other corner of the map and tried working a different angle. As soon as they started getting into a gunfight, they all came back again. Like, it was... Literally, they were just bouncing from one side to the other until they could get an opening, and then they just went. I mean, obviously, I know this is kind of a thing with, like, all games as S&D as well, but, like, whoever got the first blood was winning rounds, mostly. I think Ultra... They... Like, they got first blooded, but then they just battered them. Like, someone got two, and it was like, OK, cool. It was really... I would recommend going back and watching it, to be fair. Because it was really good viewing. I was going to, I just haven't got around to it yet. Yeah, definitely go back and watch it. But, like, the search especially was really cool, right? So, and then it goes to high-rise control. Like, I think Faze were attacking first, and they didn't get in. They didn't get anything. And then, like, five minutes later, I look up, and it's 2-1 Faze, with Ultra down men, no time, force ending B, cruise missiles flying everywhere. Like, it was rough, right? Yeah. Faze win. The first thing that Draza does, obviously it had to be Draza, was he screams into the camera, your dog shit. Nice. And then he throws up a little 3-0. And then he stands up and walks off, right? And then they interview him after the game. Of course they did. Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they interview Draza after the game? Why fucking wouldn't they after doing that? They interview Draza, and Draza, they're like, yo, so, like, big Draza, like, what are you saying about that? What do you think about that? And he goes, yeah, I think they're fucking ass. Like, they're really bad. Like, we're the best team in the world. Like, who are these guys? Like, you know what I mean? All of that, right? And then, and then it goes to Twitter. Yeah. I think I've seen the tweet. I found out today that this now brings in other teams as well, right? Like, basically all of the top four teams are now involved in this. All of them against FaZe, right? So, it like, I think, like, Scrap tweeted something about, like, oh yeah, because, like, we just didn't smoke you, like, 4-0 on a LAN. You know what I mean? Because I've seen there is a whole lot of deleted tweets. Yeah, like, and then, well, that was, like, what first caught my attention was that Sharboy, like, tweeted, and he was like, oh, Scrap, like, I've deleted the tweets, but just know, like, you talk a good game, but you can't back it up. And then, like, and I thought this was a bit counterproductive. Oh, Shar, as well, like, so some guy in the comments was like, yeah, his org probably told him to, because basically Scrap had DMed him being like, remove the tweets, or I'll get them, take them down. And he was like, yo, I've deleted them, but, like, just know you're a bitch, because you talk a good game, you just can't hack it when it comes back at you. And some guy was like, his org probably stepped in and was like, what the fuck? Yeah. And then this guy was just like, yeah, maybe, but that's no excuse. It's like, well, it kind of is, like, if the organization is stepping in and being like, yo, you need to sort this situation out now, or else, like, there's going to be a bigger problem. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, well, I feel at that point, it's kind of like, well, you know what I mean? It's more just like, do you shit talking where it's not affiliated with us, like, in person? You know what I mean? Rather than on the internet, but whatever, right? But basically, yeah. So Draza says that, Scrap then rebuttals with, yeah, we smoked you online. And then Draza, like, obviously, they go back and forth, and then, like, Draza's girlfriend gets involved. Like, obviously, as she does, right? Like, obviously, as she does, right? And then Scrap's girlfriend tweets and goes, I couldn't imagine my entire personality being my boyfriend's achievement, which is obviously about her, about Draza's girlfriend. And then Scrap tweeted, like, look at all this. So Scrap replied to it, and was like, yeah, especially considering when she DMed the entire league, and no one took the bait, apart from him. And it was just like, ooh. Okay. Apparently there's, like, cheating allegations going on as well. And this is where it started to get really nasty. Draza was just like, you don't know what the fuck he's talking about, but, like, I'll see you at LAN. Don't worry about that, I'll see you. And it was just like, oh, mate. I watched a little clip from the Scump and Methods post show, and they were just, like, Scump was like, yeah, so, like, the line has now been crossed. There is no going back from this between what's happened here. It's just gonna be, like, this is bad. You can guarantee his org was like, get rid of these fucking tweets right now. Like, you know what I mean? But, yeah, man. And then I saw today as well, that she tweeted Kismet, and was like, oh, yo, Kismet, have you heard that more absolute dog shit now? I was like, what are you saying about that, bro? And Kismet was like, oh, yeah, like, this guy was shooting my body map three and then went on to choke the series when it could never be me. Like, but we'll see him at LAN as well. And then Dashie was just like, that's exactly what I wanted to hear, bro. I'm just like, oh, my God. So, like, literally, like, on one side you have Faze. In fact, I don't even think it's Faze, it's Draza. And then on the other side, you have Ultra, Optic, and Subliners. Yeah. So it's like, that's going to be, when we get to LAN, that's going to be amazing. Like, I'm ready for the, for the absolute, like, shithousery that's going on. You know what I mean? It is. Fucking hell. Yeah, like, it's just, it just got nasty. Like, I mean, I get, like, I kind of get it, in a sense of, like, you know, they're all competitors and they want to win and stuff. And, like, obviously, like, Draza is always going to say, oh, we won because they're shit. Yeah. Like, he's always going to say that. Like, but I think that, like, it probably did go a little bit too far, in a sense of, like, I don't think you should be bringing people's, like, significant others into that shit. You know what I mean? Not at all, no. That's like... Because then that's, like, taking it out of the game, isn't it? Like, you know what I mean? It's not that deep, you know what I mean? Like, you have to, like, you want your competitor and you want to win, but, like, they're not involved in that, like, hold up. Hold the fuck up, my guy. Speaking of shit-talking... Yeah. When I was, you know, I told you I watched that Passion Pit documentary. Yeah. About the challenges of men, right? Yes, yes, yes. So, obviously, like, one of the players that it follows is Bans. So, obviously, it follows, like, who was it? Asim, Sensor, Bans. Bans was, he was, like, when they interviewed Bans, he was, like, yeah, so, like, going to this event, it's going to be me, Cammy, I can't remember what the other boy was called, and he was, like, and then, you know, one Mr. Benjamin Beans, like, everyone knows Beans, whether you like him or you hate him, and then it literally cut to, like, the crowd in one of these events as Beans was walking, he was either walking on or off stage, right? It was, like, when he was playing in the CDL, and the entire crowd is just chanting, fuck you, Beans. It's just, like, that is wild. Like, what did he possibly do? I know he's a bit cocky since when they win games and stuff, in last season. Oh, yeah, but, I mean, his name is Beans, isn't it? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, talking about cocky, like, apparently formal, the first time that he ever played Scump walked up to him backstage before they went on, and he was, like, oh, congratulations, you get to play me now. Yeah, you get to play me now. Nice. You know what I mean? It's just like, this is the level of, like, confidence that you need, realistically, isn't it? You know what I mean? Just this absolute single-minded belief that you are the best to ever do it. Yeah. In the face of, even in the face of evidence that would suggest otherwise. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get you. But, yeah, it was a wild weekend with Call of Duty, bro. I'm excited for that. It's coming. It's coming. It's in three weeks, isn't it? Because the Halo, it's the weekend after the Halo event, I swear. Yeah. And the Halo event is not this weekend, next weekend, I'm pretty sure. Like, 15th. 15th to the 17th. Nice. Well, has there anything been happening in the Halo this weekend, or has it been kind of quiet, bubbling away in the background, getting ready for Majors? Very quiet, getting ready for those scrims. Like, OpTic and FaZe scrimmed, and FaZe lost 3-8. Right, okay. What other scrims have we got? SSG must have scrimmed someone recently. They did OpTic, didn't they? Maybe. I'm waiting for Halo Data Hive. Halo Data Hive is currently my best friend. Because... Yeah, you're never off that. No, with Halo Data Hive, man. Constantly getting A very soon. Oh, um, Legend streamed this week. Oh, my internet's gone now. Fantastic. Yeah, Legend streamed this week, I think. I think I did see that, yeah. I seen that he was. I didn't watch it. Yeah, like, mate, it was good. I enjoyed it. It was a nice stream. He was just, he was chilling, just playing matchmaking, but it was nice to hear a little bit about, like, his living arrangements, like, and... Is he living with, um... Yeah, he's living with Bound in... wherever Bound lives, Ohio, I think. Okay. Someone said to him, what's the food like in America? And he was like, oh, yeah, like, Bound's mum, like, makes the most amazing food, so, like, I'm happy with the food. And they were like, oh, what's it like living there? And he goes, yeah, it's fine, but I haven't managed to get a good night's sleep yet, because, like, I play during the day, and then Bound plays at night, and he just screams at his computer for, like, fucking eight hours straight, and I was like, wow. Like, that is amazing. Oh, fuck it up. Yeah, fucking legends are here with a detailed off-speech schedule, Bound's all degenerate, Greg. Yeah, Bound's on this, like, next level of degeneracy, like... Um... But, yeah, like, you know what I mean? Like, it's... Ah, it was just, it was nice to see, like, it's kind of rare to see, like, legends streams, I feel. Um, I think this was, like, his first stream since he got to America? Okay. Um... But, yeah, it was... Yeah, no, it was a little more frequent. Yeah, but I think he said on it, he was like, I want to dream more, but then I just get lazy and don't stream for six months. That's, like, so... Fair. I feel like, I feel like, you know what I mean? All jokes aside, like, so the amount of time that these boys spend playing... Playing the game, yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like, one is, like, three hours, and then, obviously, you've got to do review, like, anything that you have to go over with the team beforehand or after, like, you've done that. And then, like, to want to get on and play... Takes a lot. Yeah, especially if you're streaming and you're only, like, interacting with chat and, like, you know what I mean? It's, like, it's a lot. Um... But, you know what I mean? It kind of is what it is. Uh, the only other big thing Halo related is... Um... Oh, ThugNasty is, uh, ThugNasty is, like, was one of the pro coaches last season. I don't know if he's doing anything this season other than sort of, like, support for events. Okay. Um, but he released a seeding document for the Open Bracket. Um... Which I thought was pretty interesting, right? So the first seed is Native Gaming. Yeah. It's, like, fair. Um, and the second seed is... Uh, an EU roster. Okay. Which was the Jump Out Gang roster. You know, the Kimbo... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sunrise Zovei roster. Um, and then the third seed was the Tapping Buttons MX roster. Okay. And then, like, Cloud9's, like, ninth or some shit. I saw it. I was, like, literally, like, if Cloud9 had just picked up this foe roster, they would be in pools. Oh, yeah, definitely. Because I... Well, I feel like Cloud9 will make it out of the Open Bracket. Maybe? I mean, the other three definitely should. But whether Cloud9 do or not is kind of... Wait and see. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. But, yeah. Oh, and there's a big event. Big event? Big update for Halo tomorrow. We get... Right, it's very exciting. We get... This is confirmed, by the way. New operations. New operation. Half the press, new operation. Cyber Showdown 2 or 3, or something. More Chimera cosmetics, which is great. Because that is, like... I think that's, like, my favorite armor core at the moment, definitely. Yeah. What else we got? New map. A new map, which looks insane. I don't know whether it's going to be competitively viable, or whether it's just going to be a social thing, and they're adding another 6 new Husky Raid maps in, which is good, because the Husky Raid maps are... They're actually not bad. I quite enjoy Husky Raid. I'm not so sure about Super Husky Raid, because, like, it's all fun and games until, like, everyone on the other team has got those, like, massive drop walls, and a fucking hammer from... Oh, I can't... They call, like, and it's, like, in the campaign, the main bad guy, it's his special hammer, and, like, it just rinses everything that goes near it. Yeah. And I think the hammer is the most bullshit weapon on the game full stop anyway. It's worse than the sword, because, I mean, at least with the sword, like... You've got to be in some sort of range. You've got to be in some sort of range. Like, with the hammer, people just swing it from, like, across the map, like I've just said. I love that. Give me, like, fucking inject it. Like, I love the hammer. Like, I actually, like, when I play social modes and there's a hammer on the map, I'll go and pick it up so I can drop it off the map. So that no one else can use it, because I'm just not interested in having to deal with that shit. It's so toxic, you know that? Like, fucking get out of the game, man, like... It's a skill issue. To be in drift wall only. I mean, well, yeah, it's a skill issue in a sense of that, like... Like, this is how it's a skill issue, right? Boy picks up the hammer, hides around a corner, waits until there's a ping on his minimap, then sprints around the corner and smacks you in the head with a hammer, teabags you, then goes and sits back in a different corner. So if that's a skill issue, because I don't have fucking wall hacks, then... whatever. Sorry. I'll take that. I'll take that. I mean, that's obviously it's a me problem. Like, because the game, you know, incentivises sitting around corners with one-shot melee weapons. Right? Which is why they took the sword out in fucking comp, innit? Yeah. It was a little bit too overpowered. Oh! I think the problem with it was, is obviously, like, in, I feel like in the other games, there was, like, a sword trade window. Yeah. And in this one, when it was there, that wasn't a thing. Like, you couldn't melee trade with a sword. Which was, like... I know the sword is one hit, but, like, when the guy is also one-shot, that's, like, hitting... You know what I mean? Like, when the guy is one-shot coming at you with a sword, you should be able to trade that kill out because he's already weak. He shouldn't red bar, and he shouldn't continue to be alive, basically. Yeah. And I think, also, like, there was, like... What was it? Like, it was at, like, 100% charge on it, which I think was... 20 kills? Right. Which is insane. Like, if you think about, like, you have a 20 kill... Like, you have a one-shot melee weapon, which has a lunge, and you can kill 20 people with it. In a game that you can sit around ratty corners and wait for people to walk in front of you. Yeah, fuck that. For free. You know what I mean? There's a clip, as well. I think it's, like, one of the first Halo Infinite lands, and they're, like, set up, um... They were set up on blue. Or, like, the C silo area of recharge. And, like, it's, like, eliciting, and one of them's, like, yo, yo, yo, we still got the sword, and the guy's, like, yeah, and he's, like, yo, yo, yo, we're gonna get the other sword, and it'll be, like, Jedi's, bro. Like, and then they literally just, like, double-push the tower with two swords and kill everyone inside of it, and it's, like... I guess that's fair, because, like, they set up and they got it, and, you know what I mean, but also, it's just, like, what? Like, thanks. What? No. Fuck that. But, yeah, man, that's pretty much it, Halo-related news. Snakebite is continuing to do his investigations into the reasons why the spawns aren't working. Good. Oh, we... Oh, fucking... One thing, that we did have the lovely experience of watching... Do you remember what it was? I can't say I do. The Piggy X monster breakdown. Oh, mate. Monster hacker allegations breakdown. Yeah, man. Like, that was interesting, because I feel like... So, the way he was doing it, right, was, obviously, he had the spreadsheet, and he had Monster, and then, I think, he had, like, Royal Two and Renegade and someone else, right? And he was basically pulling up games from, like, comp games on the same map, and he was looking at... What was it? It was, like, perfect flanks, suspiciously good pre-nades, pre-aiming corners, and... There was, like, another category that he was, like, marking it on. Like, convenient turns. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, convenient timing and stuff like that, right? Yeah. And, like, I think, basically, he went through, like, two games for each person on the same map. So, it was, like, I think it was, like, Monster and Royal Two was, like, Argyle, and then Monster and Renegade was, like, Recharge or some shit, right? And, basically, like, the point he was trying to prove was that Monster must be cheating from an empirical point of view because Renegade and Royal Two don't have half as many instances where this happens and they are widely regarded as the two best players in the game. Yeah. A couple of problems with this, however. Number one, I feel like Piggy had a little bit of confirmation bias going on. He knew what he wanted to see going into it and that's what he found. Yeah. And, number two, like, I don't know, it was just weird. Like, the whole thing was just fucking weird. What I took away from it was that he had his mind made up and he was, quite a couple of times, he was just like, oh, that's this, that, this, that, and the next thing. Yeah. Like, that's the thing. No, like, it's just super, like, um, oh, what's the word that I'm looking for? It's not personal. Subjective. It's, like, super subjective. Like, where, like, you know, I'm not trying to be like, like, super subjective. Like, where, like, you know what I mean? He'd watch, like, a Royal Two clip and just be like, oh, yeah, no, we had a call out. And then watch a Monster clip and be like, why the fuck is he turning around? You know what I mean? And it's like, I mean, when we were watching it, me and you were both saying that, like, the only real way for, and it's the same as when APG did his investigation on stream, the only way for you ever to be able to prove within any shadow of the doubt, or, you know what I mean, like, prove it by looking at game clips would be to listen to the comms synced up with what is happening in Observer, or what is happening from Monster's POV, or, you know what I mean? Because I'm not gonna lie, there was a couple of times when Monster just, like, looked the complete opposite direction to where everyone else was, started pinging, and there was a boy right there, right? Yeah. Like, that's really weird. But there could be more to it than just that. Like, you know what I mean? You don't know what's being said to him. Yeah. It's like, it depends on how long he's been playing games, and then trying to understand people's play styles, and how they're gonna play situations. So the point is, if he gets comms that everybody's on the other, like, there's three of them on the other side of the map, there's one missing. So he could be saying to his teammates, like, where he's pinging that location, like, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, one's gonna come here, the gen side doorway, and it was the last man with the snipe, and he pinged, and the guy was right on the ping, right, and it's like, out of the context of whatever the fuck was happening in that game, that looks like he's walling, right? Yeah. But you can't take it out of the context of what was happening in that game. Yeah. Like, I mean, there was a couple of other times as well, like I think like Piggy, like he caught, he had Monster cornered in the coils, and then Monster like, was looking towards the mid-map, and then he spanned around and just like, tried to insta-splode Piggy, as he went past the coil window, right? And it's like, again, out of that situation, that looks, you know, out of context, it looks really weird. Yeah. But, he could have had a call, maybe someone was like, yo, they're gonna spawn snipe, maybe he's got like, ridiculous sound EQ sounds, maybe he's got like, a mental headset, like, you know what I mean? There's so many different variables that go into it. You won't be able to know. He might have just, tried to predict it, and it's actually... Yeah. Do you think, how many times do you pre-nade a corner, while you're one-shot, being like, if someone comes around, I'm gonna get the nade on them. Yeah, and there's actually someone there, yeah, exactly. It's just a case, like 9 out of 10 times, you'll get nothing, but that one time, there's actually gonna be somebody there, and it's like, they've taken that, and God, while Vicky's hacking, because he knows he's there. I mean, obviously like, the thing that doesn't work in Monster's favour, is his LAN performances. Yeah. But, I've never, like me personally, I've never gone and looked at Monster's stats, on LAN. You know what I mean? So I don't know, because like I saw some boy was like, oh yeah, like, or maybe it was Monster himself, was like, yeah, I dropped like 5k damage in a game, and got like three kills. I don't know what you want me to do. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? And it's literally just like, well yeah, that is very like, if that's happening, consistently, it's not that he's not icy on LAN, it's just that like, whatever he is doing, is not working with the team that he's around. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, and obviously, because this guy is so good online, people, because he can't back it up in a LAN environment, for whatever reason that might be, maybe he does overthink it, maybe he isn't icy, maybe he is cheating. Like, it could be any of those things, it could be all of those things. Yeah. You know what I mean? But then, also at the same time, it's kind of like, well if Monster is walling, right, because he's definitely, he can't be aimbotting. No. But if he's walling, like, I mean, we had this conversation the other day, didn't we? Like, that Counter-Strike Pro came out, and was like, oh yeah, when I was like 12, I downloaded wallhacks, because I wanted to see where people were moving around the map. What sort of places were the choke points? What do they do off-squat? You know what I mean? All of these things. If Monster's got walls, and he's playing in these top tier, you know what I mean, like tier one tournaments and stuff, and he's getting good reps in with good players, Yeah. he would learn where things are. You know what I mean? Where things are, yeah. It's kind of like, even if he is cheating, some of that would continue and be visible on LAN, because he would naturally be like, he would notice tendencies. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I don't think it's as cut and dry as, this guy's hacking, this guy's not hacking. Yeah. You have to wait and see what happens in two weeks. What is it you said about, it was like, he either, he's either, I can't remember, it was something like, if he is hacking, he's very good at hiding it, or if he's not hacking, he's, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I can't remember how you said it, but it was like, That's the thing, if he's hacking, he's amazingly good at hiding it, to the point where it's like, he's so good at cheating, that there is a level of plausibility with what he's doing. Yeah. Or, he's hacking his tits off and he doesn't care about getting slammed at LAN, and people thinking he's not good. Like, you know what I mean? But, the only conclusion that we can draw, from the Piggy investigation, is that Monster might actually be the GOAT. Online. Online. He might be the online GOAT. You know what I mean? Yeah. But, yeah, go look at the evidence, make your own decision. Don't believe what other people are telling you until you've seen it yourself. Basically. Do your own research. It's a dangerous phrase. Or, sit and listen to us talk about it. Yeah, I'll sit and listen to us talk about it, because, I mean, we are completely impartial. We just, we just, do the news. Yeah, you know. You know the drill. But, Optic are shit. Not to cap, though. It's my impartiality, bro. Is it? Yeah, I may be an impartial. Oh, yeah. You know, I think it is. FaZe are the best at Optic rubbish. No, I think it is. What? Horse shit. Horse shit? Yeah. No, it's a podcast, bro. And that'll do for episode 15 of the TeamNade podcast. Unless you've got anything else to say, Ed, or is that it? No, I think that's it. I think that's it. I think that's it. There's not really a lot been going on in Halo this week. It's been very quiet. I think there's a couple of upcoming tournaments, a couple of FFAs going on. European Halo League are running a 4v4 tournament. There's only like four team slots left as of last night for that as well. Okay. So... But, like, you know, like, when I said to you, I was like, this will fill up quick because it'll just be all of the people that play in the EU Opens will just play in this instead. Yeah. I said that's exactly what the situation is. Like, it's just... You know what I mean? But I guess it's a sticky one, isn't it? Because obviously, like, they don't have the capacity to have loads of teams because if they have a massive, massive event and they don't fill it, then that's a problem. Yeah. And if they have a small event, it'll fill up super quick, like this one is, but then it's going to be the same people, the same teams getting the same reps against the same teams. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. But... It is what it is. That should be good viewing. I think that's next Sunday. I think that's the 9th. Oh, OK. Oh, that's this Sunday. So, I mean... It is Sunday. I wonder if they're going to get Lethal back again. Well, hopefully. I think he's expensive, though. That's the thing. You would be if you were that sort of player. Well, yeah, 100%. I'd be expensive if I was... EU Lethal. Can't lie. Ack, well. Thank you very much, everybody, for listening to Episode 5. For listening to Episode 15. Usual spiel. Any feedback. Negative, positive. Do get it. Let us know. Messages on the... The comments on audio.com and on Spotify. I'm not too sure if it's Samsung and Amazon if they've got a comment section. But you can also tweet it at TheTeamNadePod on X. Open bracket. Open bracket. Twitter. Yeah. Well, thank you very much, everybody, for listening. And we'll catch you in the next one.