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The transcription discusses Ellucian Live 2026, an event in Denver focusing on advancing higher education with limitless possibilities. It emphasizes leading change and leveraging AI for deeper connections and lifelong learning. The Edit Experience Podcast features Dr. Joe Solustio discussing higher education trends for 2026, including increased AI adoption and the importance of partnerships in storytelling. Aaron Paxton and Shadi Fadooli, co-founders of Mnemonics, highlight their services aimed at improving institutional efficiencies and enhancing student experiences in higher education. Their services include academic records management, credentialing, and support for schools facing closure. The partnership with Mnemonics aims to help institutions plan proactively and address challenges efficiently. Ellucian Live 2026, April 19th through 22nd in beautiful Denver, Colorado, advancing infinite possibilities and it's higher education without limits. Don't just keep up with change, lead it. Higher education leaders from around the world are coming together at Ellucian Live 2026 across four unforgettable days, discover new ways to meet students where they are and make the most of your technology through inspiring sessions and hands-on demos. Together, we're leveraging AI to create deeper human connections, support every student's journey and open doors to lifelong learning. See you in Denver. Register now at elive.ellucian.com. It's going to be amazing. Welcome back everybody. It's your time to add up on the Edit Experience Podcast. Where we make education your business. This is Dr. Joe Solustio back with you on my first recording of 2026. Co-founder of the Edit Experience Podcast, Elvin Freitas, always tells me not to date these because, you know, sometimes they come out a little bit after we record them. But I tell you, I have ring rust. I haven't recorded since middle of December. Some time has gone by. I was very nervous today. I was like, let me get my intro right. It's a thing, right? So anytime you do something and you do it all the time and you take a break and you come back to it, you have to shake off the rust. But I will say that going into year seven of the Edit Experience Podcast and started in 2020, I have never been more excited to talk to colleagues across higher education than I am in 2026. And it's going to be a year of incredible change. I think it's going to be a year of widespread AI adoption. I think a lot of us are going to go over our fears or humps or barriers, whatever you want to call them, with implementing AI in our personal and professional lives. I also think that we're going to see higher education start to reclaim its relevance as we institutionally find great partners to help us tell the higher education story. You like this segue. I have a great partner that you didn't know you needed, but the one you need now with me that I'm going to introduce you to, that I think I've come to know these individuals and their organization. And I was like, you guys got to come on. You got to come tell the audience what you're doing because it is fascinating and will literally make your lives easier and tell a better story of your institution. Let me bring them in right now. Ladies and gentlemen, here they are. We have Aaron Paxton and Shadi Fadooli. They are co-founders of Mnemonics. Welcome to the microphone, Shadi and Aaron. How are you? We are so good. How are you? Thank you so much for having us on. I'm ready. Aaron, how's it going? Things are good. Very excited to launch off 2026 with Mnemonics. Well, you know what? I've spent time with both of you and really taken some deep dives into Mnemonics because I, first of all, found it. I was like, oh, wow, that's cool. Oh, wow, that's cool. And then I was like, we've got to tell the audience about this. So, Shadi, let's kick it off with you here. Tell us about the story of Mnemonics and what it is that you do and the best way for the audience to understand it. Yeah, absolutely. You know, Mnemonics came to be formed. Basically, it's the brainchild of two people very heavily involved in higher education their entire careers. My background is a higher education attorney. And I've worked for the better part of 20 years helping institutions navigate accreditation, compliance issues, auditing, expansion, programmatic changes, school closures, you name it, we've done it. And Aaron is an operations guru. So, he's worked at numerous universities either in admissions or operations as VPE. And he's phenomenal. He's really, really, very, very good. And our paths crossed and we both felt that there were very easy ways to improve institutional efficiencies while helping enhance student experience. And through that camaraderie, Mnemonics was born. And our mission essentially is to help schools accomplish more while saving money, allowing them to focus on student experience, student support, and student engagement. And so, you know, we really feel that I think all institutions, they take on a lot, right? They have limited budget and they have a lot on their plate that they need to accomplish by, you know, the end of the year. And unfortunately, a lot gets skirted to the side or doesn't get accomplished the way they want it to. So, we have created a suite of tools that will help institutions optimize their workflows and essentially better support students. So, happy to go into those services if you're ready for that. Yeah, let's do that. And Aaron, I want to see if you have anything to add to that because I heard Shadi, you know, when your ears start ringing in higher education, it's usually when somebody puts these words together. Institutional efficiency while improving the student experience. And you go, how do I do that? This is a great time for that, isn't it? It is. So, what we've done is we've kind of looked at our experience and said, all these colleges and institutions are operating in silos. And how can we improve the communication between departments while simultaneously enhancing the student experience? Often, what happens with these platforms, just like an SIS or a CRM, they'll help the institution, but the student doesn't feel that help. And so, what the Dematis platform does is really bridge that gap between, brings it full circle between the institution, the student, and the different departments within that institution. So, that's really how mnemonics came to be, is how can we provide more efficiencies for schools, better data collection across departments, better communication across departments, and that's how mnemonics was born. Shadi, I want you, as you said, to start going into the idea of the services here. But before I do, Aaron, I think it's important to sort of reiterate that mnemonics came to be for higher education by higher education professionals. And there's a lot of companies out there that think they understand the industry, they offer products and services, and then the administrator goes, yeah, but you don't get it. Like, this is happening to me on my campus. You guys, I just want you to reiterate that for the audience, that you guys both, Aaron, have worked in higher ed for a long time. That's exactly right. My entire career, even prior to graduating from college, I was an admissions advisor. So, my entire career has been in education. I understand the complexities and the differences between regional and national accreditation and the different compliance metrics that those accreditors are held to. And really, the in and outs and operations of every department that a school has. So, the experience is what led us here. This is the first time I've ever done anything outside of working for a college. So, it's been a unique experience, but a good one because we bring that expertise that I think a lot of the platforms are missing. Amazing. It's funny you say that because I am also at a point in my career where I'm working outside of higher ed for the first time. And I have to tell you, the one thing that I realized pretty quickly is that higher ed is slow to trust because we want people that are in it for the best interest of the students. So, it's not just judging the relationship that the, I'll say, partner has with me as the administrator, but how that partnership might outlast me to the students. And Shadi, you start to get into those services that you offer. This isn't just a one-off type partnership. So, go through those services with us and talk about how the partnership with Mnemonics might work. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, one thing I will say to add to what you and Aaron were just talking about is, you know, Aaron and I, we come from similar but vastly different backgrounds, right? So, he's coming from an operations side, I'm coming from a regulatory compliance efficiency side. And it's funny that in talking with each other, we found the same gaps, right? So, these gaps are, it's not just that one school or another school. We've worked at various schools together and every institution has these struggles, right? At the end of the day, an institution is a business. You are delivering education, but somebody is paying you for a service and you have to put your best foot forward and render that service in the most efficient way possible. And honestly, I see a lot of schools struggling with that because it's a lot. It's a lot to add on to an administration's plate. And something that Mnemonics helps really, I think, is it helps you plan proactively for issues instead of reactively when something goes wrong. So, I think that's huge. But to talk a little bit about our services, we essentially have four core categories and then each of those categories have a lot of services within it. So, the first one is, you know, academic records management and credentialing services. So, we do everything from automated transcript processing where we just pull the transcript from your SIS or your database and send it where it needs to go. Our processing time is less than 24 hours. We do seamless education verification handling. We handle international credential evaluations and translations through NDC's approved partner. We print physical diplomas, ship them where they need to go. We do digital diplomas and get those to your students right away. We also act as closed school record repositories. So, if you are closing, and unfortunately in today's day and age, a lot of institutions are facing closure, you are required to continue to support student record management. And when there's no one at the school, you know, getting a salary to do this, a lot of schools often don't know where to go or who to turn to. And so, we will take your school records on for free. And it doesn't cost you anything as an institution. And then we make sure that we are bridging that pathway for students once their school closes to continue education or business opportunities. So, that's kind of our academic records management in a nutshell. The second thing we do is streamline administrative services. So, we have a really robust appointment scheduler and manager. So, a student can come and, you know, schedule an appointment based on an instructor or a financial aid administrator, an admissions counselor, a career service person, whatever you deem necessary in real time based on that person's availability. We send out reminders. We provide meeting links. It's really robust and comprehensive. We offer survey capability. So, basically what it is is through this survey, you can communicate with current and former students, current and former faculty and staff, parents of students, anybody you deem you'd like to gather information from. This survey helps especially with outcome reporting because we have special metrics set up where, you know, post-graduation, one month, two months, three months, four months, and five months, auto-surveys are sent out asking about, you know, trying to collect the data related to that student getting a job post-graduation. And then we have an event announcement dashboard. So, it's really a fun and easy way for institutions to communicate important milestones that are coming up or job fairs or, you know, orientation or whatever, and it shows up in their dashboard and they get email reminders. So, you know, a lot of… we do streamlined regalia issuance, both hand-in-hand with our diploma services. So, that's kind of administrative services in a nutshell, making your day-to-day operations easier for the student to interact with. I think that's where it becomes so important is that you may be, as an institution, using six or seven different vendors, right? You might be using a parchment or a National Student Planning House or whoever, right, for transcripts, which is great. But then you're using a Jostens for your, you know, your diplomas. And then you're using a Handshake or an Indeed for job boards. And then you're using some other site for how to build a resume. And it's like we've taken all of that and put it in one place. So, it's a lot easier for students. And studies show that when they are all presented this way, students tend to engage more and they tend to have a better experience. That's a lot. That's a lot. What you said at the end, though, would resonate with me. I'm sitting here listening and just going, wow, that's a lot of services. And I'm thinking to encapsulate that, Aaron, from your administrator perspective in which I said, yeah, I've been there like you. How many systems did I use? And I'm not even talking about a student information system with the data it has. But all the other constellation of systems, graduate processing, Jostens, you talk about a parchment and getting the transcripts. And then you have international companies you work with and so on. It's like if I could pull one vendor in to handle all of that stuff, the amount of savings, I mean, it's almost immeasurable. I don't even know how the heck you could measure it. But I'm sure there's tons of savings in there because it is hard to manage all those vendors separately. Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, we took every service we had and we thought, how can we improve the student experience? And we looked at the current situation. A student goes one place to order a transcript. They go another place to look for a job, a third place to build a resume. And we thought, there's got to be a better solution, a better student experience for students. And that's really how NEMOX is built, with the student in mind, although it's really geared and performs great for administrators, the students are really the winner in this because all these tools are now at their fingertips. There's no question about where to find a tool or who to go to. It's all available. The dashboards are customizable to the institution. It's really a plug-and-play career service platform in many ways for schools if they don't have a career services department or if they're lacking in staff or support there. So, a lot of value there for the student experience side of things. Let me get – so, let me – I'm going to scenario this out a little bit for things that I know matter based on my conversations with lots and lots and lots of presidents. There's a huge focus on postgraduate outcomes, right? I've graduated. I've got a job. Maybe it's my first job. I did it for six months and I get another job. But I've gotten a great pay increase. I want to be able to report that pay increase because it's going to help show the value of my – we see all this financial value transparency stuff going around. This reg is changing. That reg is changing. But the bottom line is we see some states funding based on outcomes, right? Like you get a graduate, you get more funding. Typically, what will happen is you've got your academic operations built within multiple systems and you want to do some career services work or even perform a survey. Do you do a survey monkey? Then you've got to connect this data to that data. You're probably doing it via Excel. So you're telling me if I get this straight with mnemonics, I could have a student – I could process their transcripts with a mnemonics. I can have a record of that student built in there and when that student goes through and graduates, I'm seeing their progression through the mnemonic system and then I can send out surveys to that student after they leave the university that nudge them to report back on earnings and whether they're working, if they're working, where they're working and be able to connect all that data together so I can report it to the state, feds, my accreditor. Is that what I'm hearing? Absolutely. That brings us to our third and fourth core services. Again, it is so important to support your student in that transition from graduation to, okay, how do I now put everything that I learned so beautifully in school and become a productive member of society, right? And again, a lot of institutions are required to report student outcome, right? Did your student get a job within a certain period of time post-graduation? And you are absolutely correct that a lot of funding is tied to that, right? Your eligibility and your accreditor and the Department of Education all require this information. Coming in July is a whole new bottleneck that institutions have to struggle with and that's the addition of short-term health. And so I think a lot of schools are excited about this new potential income stream and a new way for their students to be able to afford a program or an education. But I think it's a little overwhelming if you don't have the right tools in place. So if you are an institution that has always been required to report outcomes, you have some set of tools that we can help you with, right? We can help streamline and we can help automate. If you are a school that has never formally had to report placement, you've never been required and you are interested in partaking in short-term health, we are literally a one-stop shop for all of that. We provide the tools to help your students get a good job, right? So that brings us to core category number three, which is basically our employment tools and our career service solutions for an institution. And like you just said, it's kind of a plug-and-play situation. So we have a comprehensive job board that's linked directly to the Department of Labor database. So it's very, very robust. All the other job boards out there pale in comparison. We have AI-powered resume and cover letter builders. We have occupational overview dashboards where your student can come and say, okay, I am graduating with a business degree. I don't know where I want to go and use this. Well, you can come and search these dashboards and get a really in-depth idea of what the database looks like for different careers. So you can better decide where you want to go. We have helpful blog articles that come out monthly on interview tips and, you know, what's the appropriate dress code and what questions should you answer and what questions should you ask. And so we have a lot of various tools. We even have personality assessments that help the student decide, okay, I'm starting as a freshman in college. I don't know what I want to study. I don't know what I want my major to be. Well, we have these personality assessments that help guide the student to areas where they would naturally succeed. And then, you know, once graduation has happened, we have all these automated tools to help the institution gather this data, right? So we have these auto-surveys that go out. And what happens is when a student answers that survey, that information is automatically compiled, analyzed by AI, and then re-sent out to the employer for verification. And then there's, you know, the employer can then verify through uploads of verification letters or offer letters or whatever that may be, all of which is reportable data, right? This is all things that you have to collect and report in order to maintain your eligibility. So we really tried to make it so that institutions could have all this happening in the background while they're doing things that are important, which is supporting students. We're taking that manual effort, because like you said earlier, Jo, every manual process costs money, whether it's staff time, errors, rework, you know, mnemonic health institutions reduce those hidden operational costs. And instead of paying for disconnected tools, you know, you can consolidate your system and your vendors, which immediately reduces overhead in massive ways. You can reallocate staff. You can stop paying subscription fees for eight different processes when you can just, you know, use everything in one place. So we really feel like it's very transformative experience. It's not what you know. It's what you can prove. There's nothing like outcomes-based data. And, you know, you brought up something that resonates a little bit, which is short-term power. And it's interesting, as I have my conversations with presidents is this thought that, oh, boy, this sounds exciting. But, boy, these regulations are pretty stringent. And, boy, I don't know if this is going to be worth it. And you go, well, if you had a system that was built to help you manage it, would it be worth it? I mean, that's the return question, Aaron, that I think we need to be asking. What do you think? Yeah, I think you're spot on. I mean, if we look across administrations, we see the same thing, a higher focus on student outcomes for replacement. If you look at gainful employment, short-term Pell, FDT, the new low-earnings flag that just came out in December, every administration that's been in has been focused on colleges providing value for the education that their students have received. And so, whether you want to do it through short-term Pell or not, it's coming. And the schools are going to be more and more regulated on providing proof that their students are getting value out of the education that they're receiving and that they're finding jobs that they receive training for. So, all those things play a role in what we do and what we've kind of built is how do we provide students with those tools to be successful post-graduation? And how can we provide the school with the tools to gain and measure those outcomes on their end? You definitely don't want to be in this situation when you're talking about value. It's fuzzy math. Shadi, the important part, what Aaron was sort of going over when he was talking, you know, value for, you know, what is the value of this program? In the old days of higher education, let's say the recent, more recent past or mid-term past, the career college sector of higher education was the only sector that was really focused on that level of tracking because that's the way they're funded, right, with the federal government. Many of us who went to for-profit, big university, play on Saturday or otherwise, we got our diploma, we got patted on the back, and we went out into the world and we had to scrape and scratch and crawl for a job. And now, the consumer is saying, what's the value of this program that's putting institutions in a place where they have to say, there's an ROI here? How do you know what the ROI is if you don't have a plan to capture the data on the back end? So, this is an every institution problem. It's an every institution problem that can be solved with the right infrastructure of data gathering and data reporting. And I think that I just want to pass that over because you both talked about it. That is such an important point of how institutions can prove the degree value because this isn't just a, this is the public saying, I don't know if this degree has value anymore, and I need a higher education degree. Show me. And mnemonics can help you do that, right? Right. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I mean, as you mentioned, we work with every type of school you can think of. I mean, starting from high schools all the way up to a broad range of post-secondary schools, four-year institutions, community and technical colleges, vocational career training schools, even coding boot camps, right? Anything, any institution that awards a certificate or a diploma or a degree and needs to manage those records or wants to offer any kind of career service assistance to their students, we are the service for you because we help all of that. You know, we help all of that. You know, Erin, one of the things that you said, I want to come back to it, and you can correct me where I'm wrong here or if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing mnemonics can pull in some of the student data. What were the classes that the student took or has some kind of way to read that? Because when we were talking about AI resume building services, I'm thinking as a graduate, what does that look like for a graduate right now? Do they take their transcripts and upload it into AI even if they're not that proficient and, you know, try to create some resume that's not designed or doesn't have any structure to it, probably has mistakes built in they don't notice? Am I hearing that there's some more like a seamless integration where I can take the courses or skills that a student may have learned in their pathway, have it connected immediately in some kind of a framework that spits out a resume that's designed specifically around the student's academic journey? It's time to register for Ellucian Live, April 19th to 22nd, 2026 in Denver, Colorado, advancing infinite possibilities. And it's higher education without limits. Don't just keep up with change, lead it. Higher ed leaders from around the world are coming together at Ellucian Live 2026 across four unforgettable days. You'll discover new ways to meet students where they are and make the most of your technology through inspiring session and hands-on demos. Together, we're leveraging AI to create deeper human connections, support every student's journey and open doors to lifelong learning. See you in Denver. Register now at elive.ellucian.com. Yes. So we do a few things. We can connect to just talking to the SIS for the open API where we push and pull data. So anything that's in your SIS, if you want that data live in the Monarchs dashboard, it can or vice versa. With the example you gave is actually a really good one. The resume builder, it is AI powered. So we do use AI quite a bit to look at the student's past experience and help them craft a resume that will kind of pass the box that we demount and also make it towards the top of the inbox for the employer. But we've added additional things. I mean, in every tool we have, we have these additional steps. And one of them in this example is the student can then take their submitted resume and say, I want this reviewed by my career service coach or I want this reviewed by my instructor or program chair. By a click of a button, it takes that resume and sends it over to the program chair to review the resume. And any markups that program chair or career service person has for that individual can be passed back to the student for the suggested changes. So it's really the circular communication that's happening behind the scenes that's allowing the school administrators to see what the student's doing in the platform, see the student's resume, provide feedback, and the student can take that and have a better resume going out to their first job search. Let's go. I think this is an important point because we're talking about an infrastructure of career services. I don't think there's an institution. Let me start that over. I don't think there's an institution that exists today that would say, you know what, we're not interested in providing any career services to our students right now. We know this is huge. What is the job? What are the services provided? And that's becoming an enrollment proposition. It's becoming a value proposition for my institution. If I know that on the back end there's going to be someone or something that helps me find a job. But we're not talking about scaling 40 people, 30 people. We're talking about putting in a system with less people to get maximum results, Ashadi, and that's an important part of this is you may not have the infrastructure to go out and hire a bunch of career services professionals to help with resumes or to help with tracking students. We're talking about a single technology that can do that. Oh, absolutely. And I would say, you know, for all those institutions, I like you also talk with a lot of university presidents and they're all sharing their concerns with like how this feels overwhelming. This was just thrown on us. We don't have enough time to prepare. We don't have additional budget. And I would say, you know, my advice to anybody out there who's seeking advice is one of two things. One is, you know, clean up your data and invest in the right tools. Those are the two most important things you can do, right? Get your staff trained on what they're supposed to be keeping an eye out for and most importantly, invest in the right tool, right? So, if you're still collecting data by hand or fragmented spreadsheets or, you know, consider digitizing all that and putting it in one place. Look for platforms or partners that can automatically pull and validate that data that you need, right? Because that cuts down on a lot of overhead and a lot of time. Start running the numbers for programs now that might want health funding. Start preparing. Start treating it as an audit. Gather your evidence early. Fix any gaps. You know, we at Mnemonics are built to solve exactly this issue. It's literally one of our core categories of support and automation is at our core. By digitizing workflows, by digitizing data, we can help your institution cut manual work and studies show that automation can cut compliance costs by roughly 30%. Think about that, 30%, right? And the nice thing about our product is it doesn't just help the registrar department or just the career service, but it also helps admissions. It also helps compliance. That, you know, we have a finger in every department of your institution putting everything together. You know, we help you close those fingers around a solid product in your hand. So, like it is. How does this start, you guys? You know, do you guys sit down one day, you meet, you know, I mean, sort of what's the story? Does it start with the transcript services? Because, you know, like that's such a cumbersome process. Is that the conversation that sort of started off Mnemonics? Because I know that's going to be one of your core services is, you know what? We're going to process the transcripts. We take that burden. But, you know, we're another organization that can do this maybe more efficiently than our competitors that are out there. Is that where it all started? Tell us a story. Yeah, it did. It started in transcripts and education verifications. We know that takes up about 45% of a registrar's time, those two things alone. But then we realized we didn't want to be like the other transcript processors out there where all we do is transcripts. So, a student has to go to the school's website, click on a link to go to a third party, then create an account, and then order a transcript. And that's all they get. And so, that's where really everything else came from is how do we provide the student a better experience, post-graduation experience that gives them all the tools they need in one place. And that's when we really started building the platform. So, it originally started as that transcript education verification piece because we knew that registrar's offices are often over-employed simply because they're doing a lot of things manually. And so, that – but the student experience is what drove the second piece of all the career services and tools and analytics and AI and resume building. So, that's where we ended up today. Yeah, one other thing I would say is, you know, again, in our – you know, with all the schools that we currently service, we maintain an open line of communication. And when a school comes to us and says, you know what really costs a lot of time and effort to manage is X, Y, and Z. And then we take it back to the team and we go, how can we solve this, right? And we brainstorm and we do out-market research and we figure out, okay, the majority of schools are suffering with the same thing. This – obviously, there's got to be a way to fix this, right? There's constant evolution and innovation happening at our company. So, if there is a problem that's hurting a school, it's probably hurting multiple schools. How can we fix that? So, that's kind of how our suite of services has started to expand. You know, schools will come to us and say, we love what you're doing here. This is great. Can you also do X, Y, and Z for us? And we're always eager. At the end of the day, we want to serve our clients in the best way possible. And that includes administration and the students they serve. You know, that's – I'm that way too. Any partner I had, it's like, if I trust you, can you also do this too so I don't have to go find someone else? Can you – oh, can you do this? Oh, can you do that? Yeah, absolutely. And that's because we have so many systems. And we and higher-ed administrators are looking for something or at least a couple of somethings, a minimum, that bring the majority of those things together. Erin, you know, that's just like the holy grail of everything we ever did in admissions and marketing and student services and everything. It's like, I just need one system that can give me this or two systems that connect that can give me the full student life cycle of data. And then now, all of a sudden, we need this alumni data. We need this work data. We need all this data that we didn't need to track before. So we need to think about things differently. You know, one thing I would say is I have a young child who's in elementary school. And one thing that's, like, very frustrating for me is, at that institution, there's, like – I'm not even joking. Like, seven or eight different services that we as the parents of the students are required to use to communicate with our school and with our teachers. There's one platform just to report any absences. There's another platform to use to see what they did that week. What did their calendar look like? There's another one to, like, see if we want to offer school lunches and, you know, if she wants to have school lunch or home lunch that day. There's a whole different one to email the students. There's a whole – I mean, it's just insane. And it's gotten to the point where me and a lot of the other parents, we're, like, we've just stopped. We just call the school office and say, hey, so-and-so's not going to be at school today. Because when you make it that difficult, it becomes overwhelming, and then you just shut off, right? And it's the same thing for college students. When you're giving them eight different places to go log in, each one with different password rules and each one with different capabilities, students subconsciously disengage, right? Studies show that they – I mean, if you – I don't know if you're familiar with CSE, but they put out a massive survey to over 700 community colleges every year. And we've looked at their most recent data, and it basically states that a very small percentage, something like 30% of college students are even aware that they have a career service department. Of that 30%, an even smaller percentage are even happy with the services they received, which is really, really terrible. And at the end of the day, like you said, the public is asking for proof that this is worth it. And, you know, future students are thinking, why should I go to school? You know, I'm just going to be riddled with debt. I'm not going to be able to get out and get a job. And that's not always true, right? I mean, a lot of these students are actually graduating and getting great jobs and becoming prominent members of society. And so it's like how – if you have better tools to display that, it's going to help you tenfold. You know what someone said to me the other day? That it was – they cited a study, and I cannot remember the name of it. It exists. So it's not – I'm not making up make-believe stuff. But the person said that it was like the first time, 2025 or 2024, was the first time that students in the enrollment process were – it was either asking questions or making their choice based on the job instead of the name – instead of the degree itself. Or the way that a degree or a program is named used to generate activity. But now the student wants to understand the job that they get. So they're choosing the outcome, not necessarily the input. Aaron, you've worked in enrollment a long time, and I've seen that, you know, over the last five years or so where students are going, yeah, but what am I going to do with this? That's exactly right. I mean, students want to know and deserve to know what the job market looks like for them after graduation. And so you'll – you're seeing more and more in admissions and in marketing material that's going out from these schools. What percentage students graduate? What are the earnings of those graduates? What kind of fields are they working in? And so it is important to the students. So collecting this data from your current population of students is really a giant marketing tool for all of your future students. Whether that's sharing with students the high outcomes – earnings outcomes or job placement or retention rates. These are all important metrics that students are making decisions on. And if a school isn't prepared to tell a student where they're – what kind of job they're going to have or their likelihood of making a wage that will allow them to pay off their student debt, then they're missing an opportunity. And the alumni is probably your biggest marketing component, and it's missed by a lot of colleges. I haven't heard from my alma mater in years. And really, that's really what – No, don't name a good one. It's really creating an alumni database that you can communicate with, stay engaged with. I mean, they're going to – these students are going to come back to your platform and order transcripts. And when they're there, how do you make the most of that opportunity? If they're ordering a transcript, you lose out on collecting new data. You lose out on engaging them about their current roles, about their current salary, testimonials. So there's a lot that alumni can do for a school. And if you're not collecting that, when they come back and touch you or touch your systems, then you're missing an opportunity. I like that. That's an important point, because investing in a career services and outcomes-based platform that allows you to pull that data and tell the story is actually a revenue generating platform. And that's easy to miss, because we look at things across that student life cycle. Oh, this is an enrollment platform. This is a student affairs platform. This is an alumni platform. But if you're really doing things right, investing in those outcomes and reporting those outcomes is actually like investing in your marketing. And that's an important point of what you do. And, you know, how do we get started, though, Shadi? If there's somebody out there going, okay, wait, this sounds cool. I want to learn more. Do I get started with, hey, the transcript processing? Do I get like a one-on-one with you guys to sort of go through an assessment? What's the way I get started if I'm interested in learning more about mnemonics? Yeah. So, you know, the nice thing about our service is that it's all a part, right? You don't have to sign up for the whole platform if it doesn't suit your needs. I suggest you do, because then you have everything in one place, and the data, you know, communicates with each other more efficiently. But if you're already using a transcript processor you don't want to move away from, no problem, but you want a new career service suite of tools, happy to help you there. So, everything can be piecemeal, which is nice. So, yeah, I would suggest going to our website, mnemonics.com, N-E-M-O-N-X dot com, and just scheduling a demo or call the 1-800 number or send us an email at info at mnemonics. And we will be happy to get on with you and your team or whoever you deem necessary for a quick demo of the product. We can find out what your pressure points are and suggest services that can help you. One other thing I was going to mention on the last topic that you and Aaron were just discussing, there's this whole low earning flag that's out there. I don't know if you guys have heard about that. Yeah, but like 25% of schools are on this list, and they're being flagged as, you know, when you graduate here you may not make enough money to even pay your debt back. And so, that's a scary place to find yourself. And, you know, I think employing tools such as mnemonics will really help dig you out of a trench like that, especially where you're finding, you know, your name appears on that school. And unfortunately, a lot of school names are on that list. Paulus, we are happy to help you. I promise it'll make a difference. You know, I have a special place in my heart for entrepreneurs from higher ed that try to start a company to help higher ed. That's what we did here with the podcast. That's why we created it. That's why you both created mnemonics. So, I don't do this often because I talk to so many companies. But I will tell you guys that I have sat through multiple demos of this platform. It will blow your mind. And it will, you'll go, holy, and you'll put whatever word at the end of that sentence that you want. But you'll go, wow, this solved the problem. Immediately it solved the problem that I have at my institution. And that's why I wanted to make sure that I got Shadi and Aaron on the podcast here because it literally will, could change the life of your institution. And so, I want you to both, Aaron, if you want to go first, tell us anything else that you want to say about mnemonics, anything on your mind, anything at all. This is called the open mic moment. Well, we talk a lot about student experience. And I think a lot of schools think that they're providing it to students, but they really don't walk that student experience line. And I've walked the mnemonic student experience line for the last year. And I can tell you that the platform is built with the student in mind, although servicing the institutions, and that the biggest winner of moving to a mnemonic platform is the student. The student's going to have the resources and the tools that they need. This school is going to save money, and they're going to save on staff time and all kinds of other things. But the student's the real winner here, and that's really what we're in it for. We know that a satisfied student will leave us with a satisfied school. So, whether it be the job board or the resume builder or ordering transcripts or all the numerous tools that are available, the student is the one to benefit ultimately. And that's really the purpose of mnemonics, is to provide students with better outcomes post-graduation. I love that. We understate that sometimes. We have companies, and we have transactions, and we have things in higher ed. It's like, no, we're really doing this for the end stakeholder, and it's the student. We all win if the student wins. Well done. Shadi, last word to you. Anything else you want to say about mnemonics over the mic? Yeah. I would say, from a student's perspective, mnemonics really makes the institution easier to interact with. Faster records, easier scheduling, clearer communication, the list goes on. Better data leads to better engagement with your students. And because institutions can respond to students proactively instead of reactively, I think that's huge. I think it's important for all institutions to know, and I think every institution would agree, that career outcomes are no longer optional. They're just not. They're central to your success as an institution, and we help you make those outcomes measurable because they are reportable, right? And even if you're not reporting data, it's affecting your continued success. Career service teams finally have the visibility into what's working and what's not, and it allows them to improve placement. You know, I mean, you're educating these students. They're like our children, right? And you're setting them off into the world. Don't you want to set them off in the best path possible, you know? And we employ a whole host of suites that are very affordable, very comprehensive. And at the end of the day, we help you operate smarter. You save money. You support your staff. You engage your students. You provide outcomes in a rapidly changing regulatory environment. It's really a win-win for everybody involved. Well, there you have it, everybody. This has been a personal pleasure to interview these two colleagues in higher ed. Aaron and I have known each other a really long time. I'm not even going to say how many years. My hair was black then, and it's not anymore. So it's been a while. But I know how passionate you both are now that we've gotten to know each other and talk about what you're doing. I believe in your product. I believe in what you're doing. And I think it's, like, big time needed, which is why I'm so excited to have you here. Ladies and gentlemen, make sure you check out Mnemonics at m-e-m-o-n-x dot com. I got that right. M-e-m-o-n-x dot com. And you can find Aaron or Shadi on LinkedIn or anywhere else and connect with them, follow their work. You guys, thanks for being here. I hope you had fun, too. We had a great time. Thank you, Dr. Solisio. Thank you so much. There we go. Everybody. I'm going to outset in the right way. Shadi Pigulian and Eric Haskins, co-founders of Mnemonics. And you just had us. Ellucian Live 2026 is taking place April 19th through 22nd, 2026, in Denver, Colorado. Advancing infinite possibilities. Turn innovation into action with AI-powered solutions, student-first strategies, and a global network of fellow leaders at Ellucian Live 2026, higher education's premier global technology conference. It's going to be amazing.
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