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The speaker thanks the host for having them on the show and talks about how they enjoy the conversations before and after the show. They discuss how women often start their careers early, while men usually need a traumatic experience to inspire them. They talk about their experience in the film industry, working on various movies and taking on lead roles. They emphasize the challenges and endurance required for filming. They advise being patient and understanding towards others' tiredness. They discuss dealing with difficult co-actors and emphasize the importance of professionalism. They express their openness to working with any production company and discuss romantic scenes in acting, stating that they wouldn't let a partner dictate their career. They mention how their acting career has influenced their rap career, but not the other way around. Good evening, honey. How are you? I'm well. How are you? I'm good. I can't complain. I want to first thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. Yeah, I appreciate the love. Yes, sir. I enjoyed the conversation before the show. Oh, yeah. Our conversation was lit. No one had no idea. We got the, you know, and I like doing that before the show and sometimes after the show. I can't do it before the show, you know, because, you know, you got to break that monotony up. You know, you got to break that, you know, and get the people, you know, comfortable around you because this is our first time meeting and everything, you know. So I really enjoy the conversations that I have with you guys. And like I tell everybody, you know, this show wouldn't be the show if it wasn't for y'all. So I really, truly appreciate you for, you know, coming on the show and putting time to the side. Well, thank you. Listen, I'm a woman of my word. If I tell you that I'm going to do something, it's on my calendar, you are on my calendar. So, yes, sir. All right. I appreciate it. Well, you know, on Mondays I bring somebody that's an author, and on Wednesdays I bring somebody in the film industry. And with you being in the film industry, you got a lot of accolades. You know, you rap, you're an actress, you know. So the first thing I wanted to ask you is what got you into acting? You know what? I was 4 years old in La Puente, California, and I was bit by a bug in the acting game on stage. Charlotte's Web. I don't know if anybody remembers that. Oh, yeah, that was my cartoon. Wilbur and all of that. I was in Charlotte's Web at the age of 4, and it just went from there. From there I went into theater. You know, I've always been a chubby little girl, so I went into commercial modeling for like Kmart, things like that. And then it just blossomed from junior high school theater classes all the way through. I was in The Wizard of Oz. I was Glinda the Good Witch, you know. And then it just got bigger and bigger and bigger, you know. So, yeah, I was a bit early acting at 4 and then songwriting. I think I worked my first song at like 6 or 7. It was terrible, but, yeah, it was already there. Well, you know what? And I've talked to this about other people, you know, on the show, that I realize that a lot of the women, you know, you guys start early with your career. May it be a writer or actress or whatever. And I think that's because that's your creative side, you know. Where most guys, we have to have an incident. We have to have a tragic, traumatic situation happen to us, you know. Now, we do have some rare situations where guys are like, yeah, you know, at the age of 7 I started acting or whatever, you know. But for the most part we have to have something that happens to us that sit us down, right. Oh, really? Yeah. Trauma brings it out of men and then natural brings it out of women. Okay. Yeah. Well, you know what? Let's talk about it. When you was a little girl, y'all wanted to play, you know, house, teak parties and all of this. Yeah. What did the guys want to do? We wanted to kiss the girls, run. We wanted to play cops and robbers. We did everything borderline prison time. I did. What is that about? Like, what's that about? I didn't know what to say. You know what? You know, with the way the world is now, right, back then it was like, yo, boys don't do that. Don't do that. You know what I'm saying? The boys didn't do the tea party. Boys don't paint their nails. Yeah. It was different. You know, so that's where all that came from. Now, hey, listen, I'm not nobody who will, you know, sin in differently than me, you know? So it ain't going to be the same, you know? So... I'll say it for you. So I've seen that you worked on a bunch of movies on the way up, right? And I'm working with Rainy Productions as well as you have done a movie with Rainy Productions. Can you tell us a little about that, what movie you were in? Shout out to Kendra King and her wonderful husband, Mr. and Mrs. King. I was Chastity from her first movie, Me Deep, and Jill Chastity in her movie Deeper. I was also an extra in her movie Curves Under the Mistletoe and assisting with hair on that day, too. But, yeah, Chastity is a role that she presented to me, I think, about eight years ago from her book. I was on her book covers first. And then she told me that, you know, as soon as I go into the movie production site, I want you in my movie. So she started off as a fan first. She came and found me. And it's been up since then, you know? So I'm really in gratitude to her because she kept her word. This is a years old manifestation, you know? Anybody else would have probably forgot. But Kendra, I see that driving her. She said she wants it. She's going to go get it. And I'm the same way. And I just love that about her. So from there, you know, Me Deep into Deeper. And now Deeper is becoming a series. So it's about to get really wild with Rainie King Productions, and I'm excited for their future. I told her, you know, right now I'm on break. Filming Deeper took a lot out of me. That was my first time doing a lead role. I've done supporting roles. I've done other things. But to actually carry a film was something different for me. Yeah. And it was a learning experience, and I was like, wow. I was just wowed at this point, you know, not only by, you know, just being in the lead role but pushing myself, you know, 14 and 15 hours on set back to back. It takes a different type of endurance. Like you've really got to be about that life to go through something like that and still live a regular life, too, on top of that. It's, you know, it's a different type of drive, and I love it. Yeah, you know, I'm on the screenwriting side of everything, and I'm trying to get on the production side as well, you know. So I realize the hours that are put in and the things that you have to do and everything, you know. And I know that there's going to be challenges that I'm going to run into, you know. Get ready. The best thing I can tell you to do is to just be patient. Oh, yeah, yeah. It is what it is. I know, listen, it could be a 10-, 20-, 30-hour day, so I know it is what it is. When I show up, I got to show up. Be prepared, you know. Be prepared for not only the hours, but be prepared for the perspectives of other people's tiredness, you know. And how, you know, tap into their psyche, how do they act when they're sleepy, you know. Don't be so, you know, give them grace because, you know, other people can't handle things like that. They get tired, they get grumpy. And, you know, if you see somebody, they're getting an attitude, they're snapping with you, it's only because they're tired. Give them a little grace, you know. Don't blow up and don't ruin the production because, you know, of tiredness, you know, things like that. It's all a learning experience. But I'm in here now. Yeah. Ain't going back. Ain't turning back now. Yeah. Yeah, I know I've had a couple of actors on here, and I've asked them how do they deal with co-actors and actresses that they just didn't get along with, you know. And some of them was like, I'll just stay away from them, and we'll have a talk after. You know, they say cut. It's just like going, you know what, it's just like going to a job every day and you hate your boss. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you go in there, you're going to smile, you're going to do your job, and then you fuck out. You ain't got to talk to them no damn more. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's all it is. Like, you just got to say, it's all about professionalism when it boils down to it. You know that you're coming in here, you're going to get paid to do your job. Do your job. Don't worry about whether somebody likes you or not. Yeah. Now, if they can't handle it, you know, and they're coming at you away, you know, that's actually something that you've got to report to HR, baby. And either HR is going to handle it or not, and that's just how they go, you know. I think a lot of black people forget that this is still a job. It may sound fun, but it's still a job, and it's levels, you know, a chain of command to everything, you know. So, yeah, just handle it like a day-to-day job, but with a little bit more perks, and everything will be smooth. Well, are there any production companies that you would like to work with? All of them. I don't want to limit myself to anybody. I want to work with everybody that wants to work with me. I'll put it to you like that. Yeah. Big, small, I want to work. So, okay, I'm going to ask you this, because I asked one of the male actors, and he was like, well, I can't do it because I've got a girlfriend. What about romantic scenes? Romantic? So, I've had a lot. Deeper was filled with them. Maybe he's had, what, three, four of them? And how do I want to say this? What about it? What do you want to know about the romantic scenes? No, because a lot of times people that are in relationships, they'd be like, well, you know, my girlfriend, you know, my boyfriend, you know, you can't kiss, you can't hug. You know what? I've been single for years, but if I did have a boyfriend and he decided to try to dictate my career, this is my passion, oh, he's got to go. Okay. Oh, yeah, he's going to have to go because I'm going to do that scene. Yeah, so we've done a lot in ED. Everybody thought we was actually into it. If you go watch that, people were like, is that real? And I was just like, gosh, I'm going to let y'all think whatever y'all want to think, baby. It was thingy. That's all a mistake. Yeah. Well, do you think that your acting career has been able to make you transfer over to the rap game? Because I know you also, you rap. I think the rap game has transferred me back to the acting game. Okay. Yeah, but not vice versa. Because acting takes a lot out of you. A lot. And you're literally transforming into a whole different person. So I find it hard sometimes to do both because, you know, when I go into the acting bag, I really sit down and I become that character and I transform myself into that. So I try not to tap back into the honey bank while I'm chastity, you know, because I don't want to confuse the two. I don't want anybody to confuse the two because some parts of me deep are actually my life story, too. And I'm telling Kendra that I was like some of these parts, some of these scenes hit a little bit too hard. It's kind of hard for me to differentiate honey banks and chastity. So, yeah, I try to keep them as separate as possible. As possible. Now, you know what? You know, a lot of people deal with trauma, right? Yeah. And I ask people, like, how do you – when you deal with a situation, like, say you said some of it was triggering, it's safe to say, right? Yep. How do you bring yourself down from a role that's triggering? You don't. You embody it. So, for instance, there was a few roles, like, Knee Deep and Deeper, I was actually really crying in those scenes. And I told them, go ahead and roll it. Keep rolling. Because I need to embody that character at that moment, you know, bring that energy, and it's going to look natural. And it actually does, you know. You know, art imitates life. So if that life is in that art, just let it happen. Let it happen. Yeah. Yeah. I've been through a lot of traumatic situations, a lot. You know, some people know some, some people don't. And, you know, my goal is to always relate to the audience. If I can make you feel how I felt at the moment, I've done my job. And I've learned that from my mentor, Biggie Deep. You know, he taught me that in music, so I feel like that's the only thing in music that I can relate to the acting. If I can make you feel how I feel in this moment, I've succeeded in doing my job. Yeah. Yeah. Take that trauma. I tell you, son, I applaud all the women that have come on. And, you know, a couple of men have come on, too, as well, you know. But it takes a lot of courage to be able to embody something like that when you know that it triggered you, right? Yeah. To be honest with you, like Moneybanks, who passed away last January, we did a whole album together. We actually filmed at the same cemetery or deeper. And before the cast got there, I was visiting his grave site, and I was a tore up mess. I was a mess before they got there. And I'm crying, and I'm just like, y'all know what? They got here, and I'm still, like, tore up. And I'm like, y'all go ahead and just start shooting. Just start. Let's go. Let's get it done. Because I'm already where y'all want me to be. I can't fake it. You know, these are real tears. Y'all wanted tears anyway, so let's get it. Yeah. I mean, you just got to take it and embody it. Take it and embody it and keep it pushing. You know, it's all about the level of endurance that you want to portray as an actor. And that's your job. How dare I tell them, no, I don't feel like filming. No, I'm at work. Let's go. How do you prepare for certain roles? Or are there certain roles that you seek out? I personally, I am seeking out one specific role. I want to be a crack head in somebody something. So I might have to do that myself. But, yeah, I want to be kooky real bad. I want to be kooky real, real bad. Oh, my goodness. But the preparation comes into actually knowing who the character is. So, yeah, who is this character? Yeah, who is this character? How was she brought up? You know, what has she been through? What is she trying to do next? You know, you have to really, really tap in. Like, it's damn near possession, you know, to put it in better terms. But it's like being possessed by the actual character. You have to tap in. Yeah, so that's what helps preparing. All right, would you ever stick your hand into screenwriting? Absolutely. I started writing years ago, too. I never finished. But I started writing. I started writing a book. I've written a few plays. But other than that, yeah, I haven't done a screenwriting part. I really want to do my own life. My bio, well, you've seen my bio. It's still not all of everything. And it's pretty hefty. Very. And I've been through a lot, you know. And I think that once I'm big enough, I'm going to tell my story and put my story on the screen. I've actually written a production called, can I cut my hair? It's called Pussy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's called Pussy, you know. But I haven't started it yet, but I have written. I'm venturing, slowly but surely. Okay. What do you think of monologue compared to actual, okay, you know what? No, I'm not going to use that question. I got another one. Have you ever had a situation where you forgot your lines and you just had to go with it? Improv? Improv, yeah. Hell, yeah. To be honest with you, Bill Cunningham, when I was on that show, that entire thing was improv. But I have had moments where I forgot my lines and I just went with it and it just was good. Or I'll add my own lines because I feel like this just fits it a little bit better and it brings out more of the emotions. So I love improv. But, yeah, it's been situations. I'm going to tell you, when you find out, when you watch a movie, right, and you see the behind the scenes of it and you find out, oh, yo, listen, so I forgot my lines and this is what happened. Then you look at the movie and you'll be like, oh, wow. You'll be like, yo, okay, I get it. I get it. Because there was a scene with Cameron and what was that movie? Probably Paid in Full. Yes, Paid in Full. And he really punched that guy in the face and drug him out the window and the guy ran because they said they just kept letting it run. They was like, I wasn't supposed to punch him in the face. Sometimes it gets real, real good and you just got to let it go, like just capture the moment. I ain't going to lie, when we were filming Knee Deep, I got punched in the forehead. They took it out. They should have left it in there. I got a whole knot on my forehead from the fight scene. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Yeah, just leave it in there. Sometimes the best things are bloopers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're funny, but sometimes, yeah, you'd be like, oh, wow, that was good. I mean, our sex scene was a blooper. Yeah, I would see it, but, you know. Yeah, one of my sex scenes was a whole blooper and they left it in there. So, yeah. With the state of how the acting world is right now, right? Everybody's just coming off of this strike. I mean, how do you stay motivated? I think my motivation comes from life, from the perseverance of me actually having to continue in life. So that's the part where the art comes in, when the imitation comes into play. I've been through so much in life. I refuse to let anything in my artistry stop me, if that makes sense. Oh, yeah, yeah. I believe. I understand. Trust me. Yeah, like life has been enough. So for me to come over here on the artist side and let it stop me, I refuse. You know, the first thing is supposed to be my husband. It's supposed to be my baby. So although I've been through things in the music game, in the acting game that I've literally sat and bitched and cried about, I refuse to stop. I'm not going to let anybody get in the way of my passion. And if I can't get it through you, I'll get it through someone else or I'll create it myself. You know, that self-drive is what's going to get you. I refuse. And I'm a big believer of that, too. You know, people that write, you know, that act and things like that, you know, you're creative because you can turn some words into actual visual, right? Exactly. So you being able to do that, you should be able to think outside the box. So I'm a real big believer of having to think outside the box when it comes to that, you know? How do you celebrate your achievements? Oh, one of my homies up in Chicago told me about myself. He like literally read my best friend's husband named Schmidt. He told me, your problem is you do not stop and celebrate yourself. You just go and go and go. Right. So I'm making my mission now to buy me one item. Every time I buy something that I know I don't need or I'll do something for myself that I know I don't need. So I'll go buy a bag or I'll go to an expensive restaurant and just eat shit just because I want it. You know, I just would not normally do just, just to force myself out of the habit of going. I'm a go getter and I don't sit down. Like I think I'm addicted to it. And that's, that's kind of a bad thing. So I make sure that I take that time just to sit down and just breathe and just say, you did it. It's like a pet on my backside. I deserve a bag right now. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know if that's a bad thing because let me tell you something. One thing we don't do is we don't celebrate accomplishments, right? Everybody says this thing of what's successful, what's not successful. They be like, Oh, he wasn't successful. How do you measure the, the someone's success? You would have to know the goal that they're going after. Right. Right. So I don't think that that's, that's being, you know, I think that that's something that's well-deserved and that's something that we need to do more of because we got enough things to worry about and enough things to say, damn, I can't, you know, this, I can't do that, you know? So I think we need to give ourselves grace when it comes to certain things, especially when it comes to celebrating ourselves. Right. Yeah. Because to be honest with you, success to me is when I'm able to buy me a hut on Thailand, like in Thailand and live off the land, that's going to be, when I say that I'm successful, when I'm able to duck the hell off and be in Thailand with a grass skirt on with coconuts on, like that's my definition of success. Somebody else will be like, I want a mansion. No, I want to, I want a hut. I want a hut in Thailand to be barefooted on a beach daily. You know what I mean? That's my success. So I get it. Yeah, I totally get it. Okay. I want to ask you what inspires your songwriting? What, what things happen for you to say, Hey, you know what? I want to write a song about this. Um, my life happened. And, um, for, for so long I've been told, you know, you can't do those things. You can't, you can't do those. So what is my outlet? If I can't say these things, who am I to talk to? If I can't talk to you, I'll write it down, you know? And that's what happened. I began to write down my life and express it to people who didn't know me versus channeling, like harvesting all that energy and just holding it in or sitting in my room depressed about it. I'm going to write it down. Like, don't piss me off or you'll turn into a song. That's the type of person I am. Yeah. You're going to be a, you're going to be motivation for a song, baby. Or even if the sex was good, you'll be motivation for this song. You know, you can walk through the door smelling a certain type of way. Oh, y'all got to write a song about you. So he walked in smelling good. Okay. Your cologne is my next song. You know, anything can literally turn me on to write a song. I don't know. I don't know if other people do that too, but I'm really like, I can write a song about y'all. You know? Yeah. Well, you know, that's what writers do. I know that, you know, we could see something and be like, oh, wow. I can mention that in the story or you can hear something like, oh, I was, I like that. I'm going to write that down. You know, exactly. I had a song, you know, I have a song called easy that went crazy years ago. And it was about the hustler standpoint from a female perspective. My baby daddy went to prison, you know, shift, not easy. What am I going to do? How am I going to do this? You know, I put that into a song. I can't necessarily go talk to my mom and grandma about that. But when I released that song, when I had so many women come to me and tell me that you told my story. And I'm like, really? Yeah. Yeah. They like, yeah, I went through that. Thank you. And I'm like, wait a minute, you know, all this stuff I've been holding in all these years, y'all can relate to this. Come on. That's all the motivation I needed. Once I realized that so many people are going through the exact same thing. It just pushed me to just continue going. It's just, it's an amazing feeling. Yeah. How do you approach the collaboration with artists, other artists? Um, I would say that I try to take only the ones that I like. My mentor told me to not do that. He told me to work with everybody. And I'm like, you know, sometimes I can't get jiggy with that. I basically ask them what they want from me when it comes to style. Cause most of them say, I just got one last night. He was like, just do you do honey banks. Honey banks has different facets. You can get the, the hood honey banks. No, I can get honey, honey bee. That's the sexy one. Are you can get, you know, the serious one, the lyrical one. That's that's H bank. I, so I always ask them, you know, what are you trying to embody? Tell me what you want. And I'm gonna go from there. Okay. Yeah. Do you ever have a creative block on any of your, your work? Oh, for a while, I had a, a writer's flag like years ago. And that was because I was going through trauma. It was a lot of deaths around me and, you know, life was life. I actually put this in my lectures cause I do mentor people sometimes. And I let them know that regardless of whatever goes on in your life, you still got to get up and clock in the work. You have to make your artistry like work. So how about this? You write a hundred songs on a day that you feel like it, so that you'll have enough ammo when you don't. If that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. You have enough ammo and then go back when you, when you don't have that ammo, go back and start finishing those songs, correcting those songs and perfecting those songs. And it always throws you back into it. And it's the, that's the easiest way to throw yourself back into it. Go back to your old work and just start going back at it. It's, it's methods to it, but it does writer's block does happen sometimes. But for me, I've learned how to get out of it. Yeah. You got to stay busy sometimes. And sometimes you got to step away from it too. You know, exactly. Each person is different, you know, exactly. It just, what is your writing? What is your writing area look like? If you want to sit down and write a song, some people drink, they might listen to music. They might watch a little, a movie or something, you know, what is your writing? I'm in my favorite spot right now. I'm in my car. This, this is my, I come up with someone to throw this song in my car, sitting in my garage. I don't know why, but I remember Tupac saying that he kept a, a spiral in his car too, because he wrote in the car and I was like, I'm the same way. Like, I don't know what it is about the car that does it for me. That, or even the shower. A lot of people sing in the showers. I rap in the shower. I have a notebook right beside my shower. I'll hop out the shower, right from there. I'll hop back in. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. Or, or I'm either pacing back and forth in my living room. The candles are lit. The lights are low. And I'm in my living room. And I'm just pacing back and forth. Yeah. So either the car, the shower, living room, like, that's it. I don't have to drink. Um, yeah, I just, I just vibe out. I have to be by myself though. I love to be isolated. Um, I literally turn off all social media, turn off everything and I'll go at it. Yeah. I know. Um, when I get in a car, you know, a lot of people be like, yo, why you don't have no music playing? I'm playing. And you know what it is? I tell them, I said, yo, I don't want to hear other people's problems. All the songs are other people's. I got enough things. I think about, I need to hear about somebody get kicked out of their house. Somebody got caught cheating. Somebody got, got stole something from somebody. I don't want to hear nothing. Exactly. Like, I got stuck with my own creativity. Like, come on, man. Yeah. 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