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Quick one. Thank you indeed. Before Public Accounts Committee on the 2024 appropriations of 2023, it's the Ministry of Traditional Governance, Peace and Inter-Sisterly Affairs. Yes. So thank you. Under your portfolio, please, you've got one for $28.885 million, and one for $2.5 million for development expenditure. Recurrent, that'll be $28.885 million. Thank you, P.S. Thank you for appearing before the Committee this afternoon. We've given you, I would say, 20 minutes. Just go quickly through your submission, and then, by the will of Allah, ask me one or two questions, then we'll be done. So thank you indeed, P.S. and your team. But before you do so, quickly just get to him, introduce Nomad, just quickly Nomad, so we can address you properly. Thank you. Thank you indeed. Thank you, Chairman, and as well as the fact that you are about to go to lunch, but then give me space for NTGP, acknowledge and confident in having me here and my team. And I'll just get the leadership to basically introduce my team members, and then down to presentation below Ministry. On my right, Farasol Kompromo, and then on my left, Emily, Deputy Secretary-Technical, and also on the far left, HRM, Human Resource Manager, Jacqueline Tango. And then myself, Vice-Premier, Secretary, Law Ministry. So that's my team, and your members are here. Now we're going to, I suppose, present now a group from where, whence they come from. I suppose that you are in possession of General Executive Class, pretty much technical plan 2024, and I suppose a copy of our corporate plan. From the outset, Chair, as you rightly indicated, on budget plans, the current estimate is 2.38.8 class million, and on development estimates, 2.5. You would also recognize that budget 2, Mr. Chairman, revised basically in Q3 for current estimates from where it was given to us, and of course, development estimates. Our HRM, on my part, was 2.53, Chair. Fifty, in total, were those officials opposed, within three being waited. But as I suppose, in terms of few weeks' time, two of those weekend I got an appointment at the Board of Trustees, because recruiting for this had been done two weeks ago. We'd left with one most time on appointment basis, because the other deputy director had taken my position. Now, Deputy Secretary of Ministry of Tourism, that used to be us, and that's with my part. The development estimates, you rightly showed, 2.5 million was given to us from this year, too, and I'm a fix, a little bit with you. I've got a stipulated milestone, so activities were attached to it earlier, as was in the brief proper. In that light, let me also attach, I suppose, our policy programs and activities that have stipulated out of those two budget lines. But let me snap it, number four, overview, to aid us into which we're at, to be sensitive of them as per you were presented. We took off after motion 35 was debated in Parliament, and my thanks to members of Parliament. We have a register number here, the transitional justice motion that was taken up. That is where we knew we had factored a lot of activities money for our 24. It was our responsibility then, when that motion is passed, we don't have to come back on our specific recommendations by my ministry, and we implement them. So it's a tentative work plan, yeah? Recommendations are attached to us, and we mentioned a lot of them as I said to you. Of course, transitional governance as follows the arena part, or a number of activities, but I will also see that over there. And as well, peace education, and as well the Excellency's Affairs engagement with their partners, which is Churches in Space, CKH Youth Guard. Transitional Justice Program, as I've alluded earlier on, and as well, partnership with your Mohattan Peacebuilding Partners for Country. So this is where the activities, Bahaut Sudan, pretty much activities, and as well, policy focus line to that. Also, I think it's important for Rezim Lugia, Chair, the general interpreter that you were vested to it. Readiness for this year, towards last year, this year, last year, dynamic programs that have happened. I'm subject very much to what my other peers call it, is that they do appear here, or alluded later on in the other hearings, financing aspect of it as well. Capacity for ministry, I'm all right in the morning, to actually run with your activities, but I'm limited or set back a bit on financing restrictions, or repatriation, or whatever you could name it. In this case, for SB Games, on that. Hence, by your appreciation that we determined about activity under development estimates and the current estimates that have been found inside our annual plan. If you could say almost like similar opportunity, but valid equivalent of the fact that they are equally important for actually completing. Those activities, they are not started once, we are almost like completing them, but then financing have not been available to us. Apart from transitional justice programs, where we are absorbing money for next year after motion 35, that was different from what was voted in. So, we took the responsibility to actually respond to activities next year. I think those are the areas that you are to our side for raising over here, and my team and I can have a response to set the course for clarity. With those, we submit, and thank you very much, Chair. Thank you. We open them up. 20 minutes, no more. We open up discussion now. Thank you, Chair, for me joining for my peers. Just on the, thank you for possible email of personal governance. The email will be now, when the email is broadcast at this time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chair. We will finish with one findings. What we found that that findings are purely on legislative findings, no more. Really, down on the ground, we will write it. And that is what we are supposed to do in the last year and this year. Unfortunately, it was taken by financing where we were able to take it. For example, by finding room of planning, we all must go back to Reynolds and Bellarmine. Because of peculiarity of society, and that's where we end up with the model of judiciary. Because we have seen this so much by association. That was the initial recommendation. And when we see those from the bar, they have given us good insight. No relationship with jurisprudence, especially. And we are not willing to sit down. We are supposed to go to the judiciary, but then we are limited. Have we got for a corporate party? We have estimated for a billion come by for this city, or this house, or this time around. But then, we are way down in that. Hence, we have our judicial mechanics there. And that is why once you go back low, during an estimate, we have featured quite prominently inside of the milestone. For that reason, I am a member of Council. And so it was trusted. $775,000 was allocated for the building itself, for the remaining parts. Other parts of consultation, we have done and finished. And it was almost like trying to inform us that we might be on a structural part, not a blueprint. Remember when we started in 2019, cut some up? How not? I have seen that. I have reflected. How not? So from that, we have collected. We came to inform. Probably structural settings and governance. Nobody involved. And that is the reason about it. Because in the face of which kind? That kind of legislation. So there, I suppose, I think that is where we are at. And hence, we have a lot of effect on that. For building RAN. Just similar with the transitional justice ones. Policies are done. But for RAN, then you find a new pushback. We can find some prioritizing work. That is all. 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