Nothing Pod #1

The podcast discusses various topics, including trends, challenges, childproofing, genetic editing, and the potential dangers of AI. They talk about trends like the cinnamon challenge and wearing pants below the waist, as well as challenges like the Sprite challenge and Tide Pod challenge. They also discuss childproofing and the limitations of keeping kids away from harmful products. The conversation then shifts to genetic editing using CRISPR and the ethical implications of creating advanced babies with specific traits. They touch on the potential for a capitalistic society based on people's health and the controversial idea of "curing" Down syndrome through abortion. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the dangers of AI and the potential for misuse, referencing deepfake technology and its impact on personal and political affairs. Hello everybody and welcome to a podcast that we don't have a name for yet, but we're going to tackle many objects, many conversations, interesting topics, subjects, and we're just going to call it the podcast with no name to start with and we have Jo here with us too. Well they have no name steaks, why can't we be a no name podcast? Might as well. Yeah. And where I'd like to start this off at, because it's something that's on the top of my mind, is trends. And you ever notice how some of these trends are kind of stupid? Such as there was the cinnamon challenge where people would take a tablespoon of cinnamon and try to eat it and they'd choke themselves out. The first trend that comes to my mind is people wearing their pants down below their butt cheeks. Oh that's not a trend, that was because of hip-hop. But that was a trend. Everybody was doing it and some people are still doing it. It looks ridiculous. I don't know how they're gonna run. I don't think they can. But then the other day I saw that there is a Sprite challenge. Oh? You know what carbonated Sprite is? Yeah. Well the challenge was here's a 20-ounce bottle of Sprite, drink it all, don't burp. If you burp you lose. Oh. No, that's got to be hard for anybody. I'd lose right on the jump, there's no way. It was the number one, I couldn't chug a Sprite. And then remember even a few years ago there was a Tide Pod challenge? Oh my goodness, yeah. Yeah, these challenges don't seem to be a very good thing for anybody. No, but they make the companies that are manufacturing the products for the challenges better at what they do as far as safety goes. Well Tide had to say don't eat our product. It's laundry detergent, who the hell's eating it? I don't know, kids. I mean sure it looks good, but the liquid part looks good, but the dry part it's like, that looks like it'll choke you out. Yeah it does, I don't know. I don't think it would taste good. I don't know how a kid could get it beyond their lips, but Tide I know has put good safety measures, safety caps on their product because of that. So little kids thinking it was candy wouldn't get into it. Do you ever remember in the news a few years ago, and by a few years ago this could have been many, where it was can kids get into childproof safe bottles? Yes. In which case they could get into childproof safe bottles. Yeah. So who's to say what Tide's doing is going to be any different? You pretty much got to put it on top shelf where they can't get it, but kids are resourceful. They'll get whatever they need to get up there. Well one of you seven kids that I have, I had to put locks on like our medicine closet and on a big cabinet that you guys have pulled drawer, not you personally, but you're... No, I wasn't smart enough to do that. No, they'd pull the drawers out, lock up the drawers and get in the cabinet. I had to actually get padlocks for that stuff. So yeah, you can't, there's no guarantee somebody can't get into something, but like I suppose if they swung like monkeys off the long padlock I had on there, the hinges would have come off and they'd have the door open. There's no limitation to if they want something what they'll go through. Right. And it's kind of interesting because as adults we kind of lose that, don't we? I, well you know, I don't think so. I think that we're very creative and innovative as adults when we want something. Like say for example the city wants a one-cent tax and they implement that one-cent tax and the citizens of that city vote it down. The city comes back with a different name and kind of a different verbiage on it, same concept, and they put it in to vote again and they get what they want. So it's all about getting what you want starting at a young age. But even so, back to what you were saying about that one cent, there is a politician by the name of Bernie Sanders who had the idea that if we can implement a tax on stock trading, fractions of cents that were being traded back and forth, you would be able to be able to afford college for everybody. That was the philosophy behind it. So back to what you were talking about about tax, it doesn't always work. No. No, not the first time, maybe not the second or third, but they keep pumping it back under a different guise and they get it. Yeah, so in other words you just got to find another way. Like the kid that was trying to climb his way up to the cabinet, but then he fell down a couple of times and then he had to figure out a different way to get up there. Yeah, a lot of things happen by accident. Like if they're swinging off a padlock, they're not thinking the hinges are going to come off, but one day the hinges come off and then it's like voila, a new way to get into that cabinet. No matter how many locks you put on it. Well, on to a different subject and I'm going to segue quite a bit here because it's kind of interesting as far as what I'm getting into, because I know how much you like science and medicine and such. Yeah. What do you think about this whole CRISPR thing? Boy, that's such an interesting thing, but I have to say with everything good, there is some type of something nefarious that can come out of it. I think the benefit outweighs the evil doctor, evil mind that could do something nefarious with that. And what CRISPR is for everybody, it is a gene editing device based off of editing your RNA strands to be able to combat certain ailments. If it's cancer, if it's diabetes, if it's Lyme disease, whatever it may be, it's a way to manipulate your genes to be able to counteract whatever is invading it correctly and better. It was kind of something that sprouted out of the COVID pandemic and really, well, it was around longer now, but it rose to prominence during that period. And it is an interesting thing as far as will we have advanced babies? Can we make kids that are super geniuses or quite literally make kids have superpowers right out of the womb? You know, I think all of that would be possible. Many years ago, there was a little girl from England. She was a test tube baby. It was the first time that science ever had an embryo outside of the woman and fertilized it in a test tube and then put it back in her and she had that baby. I think that kid's about probably 40 years old, if not older now. See, time goes by fast. It really does, yeah. That's what everybody's thinking. And if that is the case, then you're creating a kind of a capitalistic society on people's health. So basically, if you want to be if you want your kid to be a super genius, we can do that, but it's going to cost you. Or if you want your kid to have freak athletic genes, we can do that, but you gotta pay. Yeah, that's right. And I think that they can, you know, alter human syndromes and deformities. Like one country, I don't know if it was, I think it was Iceland, that said that they had a cure for Down syndrome. And everybody got excited about that statement. But then they found out the cure was finding out if the woman had a baby with Downs in her, if she was pregnant with it, and then they would abort it. And that would cure Down syndrome. I thought that was the most horrible thing. How could somebody put a statement out like that? Get everybody's hopes up and then take this morbid turn of saying that. Yeah. Yeah, it's terrible. What we can do to each other and are willing to do to each other. In the name of science, you know, look at AI. Everybody was so excited about AI. And I think AI is a really great thing. But then you've got these nefarious individuals that come in, and they doctor it up, and they use it for the ruin of mankind. And with AI, that's a very dicey thing, because it will lead to the end if we're not careful. If we're not careful. And that might be kind of an apocalyptical way of looking at things. But it's the truth. It is. You know, even Elon Musk, who's one of the smartest people in the tech industry, is saying and trying to warn us about all of these implications that can come from AI. Yeah, well, just look at the pictures and the voices that are put out there. I think Tom Cruz was used in an AI film. Everybody thought it was him. It looked like him. The guy moved like him. It was not Tom Cruz. Well, they were also able to have a full podcast of Joe Rogan and Steve Jobs, a conversation that never happened. Yeah. And if you think about that, you're thinking, okay, these are our entertainers. What's the big deal? It's the big deal when it turns into politicians. It's a big deal when it turns into the President of the United States or the President of Russia or the President of China. That's right. That's when it becomes a big deal. Now, there are those nefarious and bad actors that are going to do whatever they're going to do with this, right? Whether it's good, bad or indifferent. But you hope there's a filter that we're able to run things through to make sure that if it did happen, or if it was said, that there's a way to validate that. Well, there was a young teenager that set a school principal up and accused him of some really horrible things. And the school fired him. And he said, it wasn't me. I didn't do that. And he tried to convince them. He finally got the FBI involved. And the FBI went into that whole setup that was out there, being the persona of that school principal, and found out it was some kid in his basement on a computer that did it. The principal had nothing to do with it. Now to go about the ruin of human lives is awful. And there are people out there that are willing to do it. Well, it also makes life easier for some, you know, for instance, if there's a teacher that you don't like, because he's either too hard, or you just don't get along with him. How easy is it to doctor something up that's against him, with him using what seems like his own words, to be able to get out of whatever you want to get out of, or to get him fired so then life's easier for you. Well, that would, that was what that kid did. And it was his, it sounded like the principal's voice that that was captured on audio, but it wasn't. And that was a terrible thing to do to another person. And you talk about presidents and leaders of countries. Just imagine if, if something gets out there that is personifying a country, a leader of a country, and it creates World War Three, and there's nuclear weapons flying over everybody's heads. That's the end of this earth. Well, I don't think that wars are going to look like that, because everybody at this point's got nuclear weapons, which can end the world several times over. Some of them don't care. They don't, some of those... Well, then they don't do. Yeah, they don't care. You know, if they want to kill themselves in the process, I guess that's just what's going to happen. Yep. But back to the whole AI thing, is, what do you think that looks like for the job markets? Such as, there's, Elon has this Optimus program, which is making these droids, if you will, to be able to handle such things as manufacturing jobs. So you're able to run it around the clock. And I'm sure that that'll continue to advance to the point where the manufacturing jobs aren't going to be there for anybody except for robots. And who knows, even maybe even surgical practices might only be there for robots that have AI in them. They already do that. They have like robotic surgeries, heart surgeries, prostate surgeries, robots are doing all of, all of a lot of different kinds of surgeries already. The doctor does, the doctor could be in Australia, and doing a surgery in Minneapolis, Minnesota via a robot. So do you think that that kind of marks the end for some occupations? Or do you think that marks an advancement in them? I think there's always going to have to be a human involved in it. But yeah, I think... But what happens if the machine turns out better than the human and gives you a better result than the human ever could? I think that we've had a history as human beings on this planet, when things, roadblocks come up in our way, we have a way of getting around it, new things can be created. And I think new things will be created. But we are going to wipe out a lot of jobs, I think for menial jobs. And I'm not saying menial in a bad way, because I worked in fast food when I was a kid growing up in high school. And, you know, those kind of jobs may go by the wayside. And it may be just robots. And I know one of the fast food chains has been trying that out. Yeah. And that just gets to the other point about wages getting to be too high to the point where you can't really afford to have everybody there. Well, that's what created it that $20 an hour $25 an hour minimum wage, you don't have to pay a robot, a minimum wage, you just have to pay the electric company to keep the electricity on. But it will it takes out people, it takes that factor out. And that's the way I say resilience, there's something that happened, and there's always a counteraction for it. Now, there's also going to be advancements in that too, where through AI, there's going to be other jobs created. Yes. Through that, such as through any boon that we've had the tech sector, there was technological jobs in the version of millions added throughout the 90s to today in the tech sector. If you look at between automobiles, the stagecoaches, there were millions of jobs added from that too. Well, look at when Henry Ford started that assembly line creating the cars, that took a lot of the hands on people out of there. Now you will actually the assembly lines work as you would have people there, they'd have their sections that they would work on, you'd have the belt, drive it down to somebody else. They work on theirs until eventually you end up with a fully made car, which spent a long automation. Yeah. Now you're going to have something that takes that automation out of people's hands and directly into the robotic hands. That's what I said, though, you're going to have to have masters in there. Well, yes and no. I mean, you won't need to have a lot of people overlooking or overseeing the task. No, but I know AI is capable of learning too, which is another scary topic. Well, it's sentient pretty much. It's the same. I don't know if you can call it artificial when it's intelligence, such as your level of intelligence. I wouldn't say that you're artificially intelligent. Well, no. You have that innately in you to be able to grow yourself and expand. So does the robot. So does the artificial intelligent programs. Here's the difference, though. We have consciousness. And who's to say that they can't? That's something science still doesn't fully understand is what is consciousness? Yeah. They're on the cusp of that, though, actually. And who knows, maybe AI will figure that one out. But we're innately intelligent people. We're, as human beings, robots haven't quite hit that point. So I would call that artificial intelligence, because somebody had to create that intelligence to get it into that equipment. I don't know if you've ever watched the movie, I think it was Deuce Mockinac, or Ex Mockinac, where it was this mad genius who was living on kind of an island by himself. And he had an artificial intelligent robotic woman. And he invites this other guy over and he stays with him. But that robot was kind of locked away in a certain part of the house. Until the guy that he had come to that island with him, starts to think that the guy that designed the robot was bad. And so he starts going on the side of the robot. And the robot ends up killing everybody in that house by playing everyone. Yeah. Who's to say that that can't happen? Exactly. I mean, it's, for anybody that wants to know more about that, just watch the movie, you won't be disappointed if you like sci fi. It's a good way to spend two hours. And what about the human thing in AI? I saw a movie, it's a very old movie, where it was I think it was Rob Sterling. It was a Twilight Zone movie, where a guy got banished to a planet, like a prison planet. He was the only one on there. And they'd come and check on him every so often. One time they dropped off a woman robot. And he developed this emotional connection with that woman robot. She looked just like a woman. And it was his companion on that planet. And when they came to get him and take him off the planet, he had to leave her behind. Well, he ended up dying because he just couldn't part with her. And there's a lot of that AI going on now where you can have your best friend that that person that you look for in life and long for in life will be that AI bot that's going to live with you and make you know, do all the feel good things, emotional support and all of that. That's already happening right now. Well, there's a couple of things there. Yeah. Number one, Rob Sterling, I don't know if he was an alien or what himself. Because that guy was well ahead of his time. Oh, yeah. And anything that he did, the Twilight Zone was made in the 50s. But a lot of that stuff could be taken to today. Yeah, it's a lot of it's mind bending. Number two, we already have problems with not having enough people in this country or any other country for that matter. Now, if you're talking about a robot taking over as somebody else's significant partner, that's just going to put an end more of an end to mankind. So maybe AI doesn't have to take us out. We'll take ourselves out by not doing what we're supposed to. Yeah, I agree with that. And I think it's a scary concept. Because coming down the road in the next 1020 years, our population is diminishing. People aren't having children like they used to back in the day. And everything's gotten too expensive. I don't know how back in the day what the average house size was five people back in your day. Yeah, what was it two and a half kids and a dog is what they said that was well, I don't know how you have half a kid. That was the actual nuclear family. They just broke it down two and a half kids and a dog. Let's say three. Yeah. Okay, let's round up. I don't know how you can have three kids today. It's expensive. Even one person is expensive. Yeah. Having to take care of yourself is expensive. And then if you get hooked up with somebody here, you get a robot that wouldn't be so expensive. No, because they take care of themselves. They don't eat, they don't drink, they don't sleep, you're fine. And they don't run around because all you got to do is take the power cord out of them and then they shut down in your house. They can't leave. That's right. And then they're going to take you on big spendy shopping sprees. Or, you know, like when people get married and they want, oh, I got to have this dress, I got to have this, you know, 50 karat diamond ring and gold, you know, it's like you'd save a lot of money. It will take that human connection out of it, though. Reminds me of a South Park episode. It was made back during the pandemic, where the boys grew up, right? And they all went on and had their own lives. And I don't remember which one it was. He was married to an AI, a robot. And I don't think that that's too far off. The interesting thing is, is that sci-fi, like those type of sci-fis, they're not really made anymore. In the technology version of things. Now all you see is space exploration, which is probably going to be here soon before we know it, too. Oh, yeah, I think so. In which case, I don't know. What's the whole purpose of us going to Mars and living there? Well, because if this planet gets overpopulated, they want to be able to understand outer planets so that they have places to put people. But we already know that this planet more than likely will not become overpopulated. Because there's some reports that say we're either already overpopulated, or we could double in population and still be fine. Yep, or we're so underpopulated, it would take too long to get our populations back up to where they should be. So in other words, we're sitting pretty either healthy, or not healthy enough, or over-healthy. It's a Goldilocks story. There you go. It depends on who you have. The people that think the world is ending, or the people that think that everything's fine, you know. But it's interesting in the aspect of, I don't see why we would have to try to have life on Mars. Um, there's a movie called The Martian, which has Matt Damon in it. I don't know if you've ever seen that. But it's, it's not a bad movie where he gets stranded on the planet because of some type of geostorm that everybody else leaves him and he's, everybody thought he was dead, but he's stuck there. They have to come back and rescue him. But in the meantime, he grows a garden, he finds a way to make his own water. It's like, why do we have to do that when here on Earth, we already have everything we need? This episode is brought to you by Mojo Roasts. They are a specialty grade coffee company. 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Let me guess, it's 40,000 light years away. Somewhere like that. Because that's what they seem to say. Like, for instance, I got a kick out of this when they say, oh, there's a planet with a diamond core. And if we were able to mine it, it would make the diamond here on Earth be worthless. You know how many light years that is away? Well, yeah, and then, and the fact... We'd never get there. We don't have boring equipment that could handle the extreme heat of going further than like seven miles into the Earth's crust. It's just too hot for that boring equipment. We probably do have boring equipment that's strong enough too, but we don't want to get to the core because there's dragons and stuff in there. Oh, yeah, I forgot about them. You never heard about that conspiracy? No. No, we got rid of them a long time ago. They're in prison down there. They stay there. Yeah, no, but the boring equipment can only go in so deep into the Earth's crust without getting overheated. It's really hot once you start getting down in there. Oh, yeah. Yep. But that's obstacle number one. Obstacle number two is getting there. What about meteors and asteroids? Well, Mining those. That's coming because there's a lot of rare earth materials that are in those space rocks. There's already been a little spacecraft landed on top of one of them. You can find cobalt, lithium, gold, diamond, or even space dust. Yep. You know, it's kind of a boomer bus thing because you think about how much money you have to spend to get it. It got blown away from something. Yeah. And the other thing about that is, do you think that adds more space particles to what already exists? Because there's already a lot of space particles up there that if they get the wrong type of orbit going, and if they come down and crash, they kill people. Yeah, they can. I mean, I'm not trying to invoke fear in anybody, but it was some, I think it was Neil deGrasse Tyson that talked about the speed that those are spinning around at. Yeah. And wasn't there a country that had a, like a cleaning method to be able to clean up that space debris? Yeah, there's like a vacuum up there in space sucking up a lot of it because just a teeny tiny, like the size of a marble could just be slammed right through the space station. Yeah, break the glass. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody in there gets sucked out. Then you have the movie, what was it, Gravity? That was released in 2013 with Sandra Bullock. Yeah. Where she was just kind of floating out in space. But the interesting thing about that, too, there's a lot of space exploration being done. You know, Elon Musk in SpaceX, Jeff Bezos in Blue Origin, Richard Branson in Virgin Galactic. It's becoming more of a public or privatized business, too. Yeah. It's not just NASA. It's not just the whatever the Russians call their cosmonaut program. But that Jack Webb, James Webb, James, not Jack, I call him Jack. You knew him well, so you called him Jack. That's just our thing. The James Webb Telescope, that's really bringing a lot of light into outer space and how it's working and they're closer and closer to finding a lot of hidden secrets that we've had for so many years. Do you think people, and by people I mean the astrologists or what would you call them, the space scientists, astronomers, astrophysicists, astronauts, well, it wouldn't be astronauts. Do you think that they think the answer to life is in space? I think they do. Because it's always been that Big Bang theory, you know. Why is it that we care more about space than we care about our own oceans? We know more about space than we do know about what's lurking below. And that's kind of terrifying. It is terrifying. Well, I think it's because we can just look up and see the cosmos and we get so curious and, you know, we're very exposed to it more than we are when you look out over an ocean. All you see is the top of the water. Have you seen some of them fish, though? Oh, they're phenomenal, yeah. The ones that have the little light on their head because they're so far down, or the ones that are able to shoot out like harpoons and stuff. And it's like, those are the aliens. Yeah, that anglerfish that lives at such great depth, the moon depth, they call it, because no sunlight can penetrate down there. He's got that little electric lure on the top of his head. He bounces around and catches other fish that are attracted to the light. So they get close enough and he eats. But that fish, they found out that the male, because it's hard to find a partner down there, the male fish will attach itself like a parasite to the female. And that's forever going to be her partner to create other little anglerfish. And she's much, much bigger than the males. So many males can attach to her. It's like they fuse right into her. So that kind of works like a colony then? Yeah, she is the colonizer. If you think about bees, then she would be kind of the queen bee then. Yeah, something like that. See, and why don't we know more about that? Or what goes on down there? I think that people might want to know more about it, the more stories that they hear of how alluring and bizarre and secret that world is. And is it that or is it because space seems so far away, right, that it's, we don't have to think about it because it's not right next door. When you think about the ocean, it's a deep, dark, the space is this bright, beautiful place everybody likes to think about. But when you think about the ocean, it's this deep, dark area that's right next to you. And it's like, I don't want to go in there. Oh, they're both a big abyss though. The abyss of space and the abyss of the oceans. Yeah, it's fascinating. I love, I love anything, you know, ocean or I wish I could have been an ocean, oceanographer back in the day. But life led me in a different direction. Yeah, instead of being in the depths of the ocean, you're in a roastery. That's what I do. I roast coffee. Nothing wrong with that. Everybody's got their pursuits in life. And you found yours. Maybe I could have found a kraken though. I don't know. Do you think that those existed? Because there were, well, this was during the piracy age, of course, so it would have been the 1600s, 1700s, where there was thought that these big octopuses or these big squids destroying ships. I think that there could have been some, some very big animals. I don't know if at that time in the 1600s, 1700s, it's not that long ago as far as like the dinosaur age. That's kind of what I got going on in my head. Well, dodo birds existed too at one point in time. And look at them now. They're no longer existent. Right, right. And if there was this giant squid that was destroying your ships, you would think everybody would band together and say, we got to kill them all. Yeah. And who knows? That could have been something that was lost in translation over the last 400 years because history can change pretty drastically if people want it to. Yep. That's true. Yeah. Well, look at whales diving deep down and they eat giant octopus and squid, giant squid. They come up and they know because some of them have washed ashore and they've got a bunch of squid beaks in their bellies. But they've also got a bunch of like hook marks on their skin, on their flesh, because each one of those tentacles on a squid is a tooth. Is it? They got a lot of teeth. They got a lot of teeth. They hang on, hang on tight. And orcas are now the ocean's apex predator. Yep. And they eat sharks, but they don't eat the whole shark. They just eat the liver. That's right. Why? They know how to put them in a catatonic state. Yeah. Flip them on their back. Yep. And then they just take out that liver and they eat it. I suppose that's their favorite thing on a shark. There's nothing worth eating other than that. Yeah. But some people eat the fins. Yeah. That's sad, though, to do that to an animal. Just hack them off and, you know, that's some of the worst of humanity that we see. Yeah. But have you ever seen an orca throw a seal in the air? Yep. It's ridiculous how strong they are. I know. They're even smart at getting those stingrays off the bottom of the ocean because they like to eat them in different parts of the country, too. See, these different families of orcas, they consume different things. There are orcas that eat just strictly seals and mammals. There's orcas that eat fish. Usually the ones at the marine parks are the fish-eating ones. And they have a pretty diverse diet. But over, I think it's in Finland, Iceland, Greenland, over in that area, they got a pod of orcas, and their diet's strictly stingrays. And they know how to go hustle them up off the bottom of the ocean without getting stung. And they flip them over and they consume them like that. But the sad deal about being that apex predator, too, a lot of the animals they eat have heavy metal contamination. So now they're finding these orcas with a huge amount of heavy metal. Mercury poisoning. Yeah. Contamination. And I mean, it's killing them. That's the same thing with humans. That's why we're told not to eat so much swordfish or tuna or. Especially pregnant women. Yeah. Because of the high mercury content in it. Yep. That's right. Oysters. Yep. Or is it salamanders? What are them things called? Not salamanders. Sardines. There you go. Yeah. Because they contain high trace amounts of mercury. It's ridiculous what we do to the ocean. I mean, back in the 70s when you were coming up, they thought, oh, we can dump all the waste that we have in there, or the nuclear waste in there. And it'll just dissipate. There won't be any issues. Until they come back several years later and it's still sitting there. Right there. It didn't go anywhere. It stayed right where they put it. And the other thing, too, is do you ever think about cruise ships and the amount of excrement that they must go through? Yeah. And what happens to that? Do they just push that all out through the back of the boat and all the fish and everything got to deal with that? No, they actually. That's funny you even brought that up. They're almost like a processing plant. The way those cruise ships operate is fascinating. They have, where the human waste, they will burn that waste off and then it's pretty much benign so they can do what they want with it. No. No, no, no. But they're very efficient and they aren't polluters. Huh. And back to the one last thing I want to talk about and work is on, they're dolphins? Yeah. They're of the dolphin family. Largest. Are dolphins also whales or is that not how that works? Because an orca is a killer whale. Is an orca really not a whale? It's the largest member of the dolphin family. I don't think they consider dolphins whales, like your bottlenose dolphin, those kinds. But there are some really unique, different dolphins that are whales that dive really deep in the oceans that people haven't really heard of or seen. Them dolphins get a little weird too with people. Oh yeah, this lady had one, it was a wild dolphin and she would swim with it on a daily and they recognized each other, it was really good to her. Her friend went with her one time and that dolphin attacked that woman and just about killed her. Well, you think about that, monkeys, there was this one girl that had a pet monkey and which I don't condone, I don't think anybody should own a wild animal, especially a monkey because it's pretty much like owning a human, in my opinion. But she had a friend come over and that monkey ripped her friend, I think it started breaking her fingers and tried ripping her face off. Yeah, she's blind for the rest of her life. It almost killed her. I think that that happens, like what you were saying there about the dolphin liking one person but not the other, such as people that own tigers, the tiger only bonds to one person. I think most other animals must be that way too then, where they only bond to one person. We have a German Shepherd and he knows who his favorites are. Well, animals, they have that instinctual knowledge and maybe it's just the fact that they didn't like that person based off of what they picked up off of them. Maybe, yeah. So, I mean, it's unfortunate. I know. You know, you don't bring your friend along thinking that you're going to try to kill them by bringing them, it's a cool thing. Hey, I got a pet there. I got a dolphin I swim with every day. You want to see it? Yeah. You know, that's a pretty neat thing. Yeah. Until it tries to kill you. Until it's not, yeah. And they got sharp teeth too. Yeah, they do. You got to swim with the dolphins. Yeah, I was kind of terrified. But it was fun at the end. And we also got to see some wild ones too. Yeah. I like that. They weren't as wild as I thought they'd be. Like, you know, you see them at the theme parks and they're jumping and boisterous. These guys were just kind of caressing the water. They'd come up and they'd just gently go back down. There was no splashing and frolicking with them, the ones out in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah. And for me, I never spotted them, but you guys were, so it makes me feel good. I'm blind. Well, not actually, but you couldn't see them anyway. 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They were the best team in the entire NBA. They had the best record and they got very close a few years ago when they played against Golden State, but they couldn't overcome that hurdle. And then this year they played the Dallas Mavericks and ended up winning. And I think a big factor is, is their defensive ability and their ability to shut down what the, some people would say was the best backcourt in NBA history. Yeah. For those people, I say they're quick to forget about the Golden State Warriors because you had Klay Thompson, who was arguably one of the greatest spot-up shooters in NBA history, and you had the greatest shooter of all time in Steph Curry. Oh, yeah. And you're going to tell me that that backcourt wasn't better than what they had, have in Dallas. Dallas was only able to win one game. Yeah. And they won by, I think it was 40 points, but they should have won some more. Now, honestly, I think that they kind of fell apart, but what do you do? Again, it's Boston. They've won 18 now. Yeah. And it was Bob Cousy, I think it was, and he's 90 something years old. He was there in the early days when they were winning championships with Bill Russell, and he was like, I only want to see them win one more. It's like, you've already seen them win 17. Why do they got to win 18? Yeah, there you go. And it would have been nice to see Dallas win their second, but it didn't come down that way. Well, they didn't get participation trophies. Those guys earned it. No, they did. Yeah. You know, and whatever happens to Kristaps Porzingis, who has leg issues every year, it's nice to see that he was finally able to get his ring, and who knows if he'll be hanging it up or not. Hopefully not. Who knows, he could come back again next year and win another one. What do you think of Kaitlyn Clark? Kaitlyn, she's got a lot of heat on her now. And, well, not now, but she has ever since she came into the league. And I think that's a rookie hurdle. Because in any profession, when you're a seasoned vet, or a seasoned employee, and you see somebody new come in, and they're getting all of the accolades and all of the limelight, you can't tell me a little bit of jealousy doesn't settle in. Yeah, the thing that bothers me about all of that, though, is she earned it. She earned her place in there, whether she's a rookie or not. And she didn't even get selected to be into the Olympics. But what she's done is really enhanced the women's basketball, the WNBA. Nobody really had eyes on that for years. It was just a thing that you hear about randomly once in a while, if you're not a sportsperson. But since she came in, she's really brought the bar up. She has. She's helped bring the bar up. Yep. Everybody wants to say, oh, they've got charter planes now. Well, the charter planes were in the works for the last several years. And sure, having Kaitlyn Clark and Cameron Brink and Angela Reese come in, that's helped grow the league and grow the exposure that they have. You're still set to lose $50 million this year because they're all subsidized by the NBA. They don't make enough money themselves. Yeah. And to your point, Diana Tarazi is arguably one of the greatest female basketball players of all time. Yeah. But at 41 years old, she should not be representing Team USA. I think she should step aside and let somebody else represent, such as Kaitlyn Clark. I agree with you. What I admire about Kaitlyn, though, she's not out there crying about the slashes she takes. You know, she gets clobbered once a game at least. Every rookie has that. Every rookie's got their calls that should be called that aren't. It's just kind of your welcome to the league moment is what the pros would call it. Yeah, pretty much. And she takes it on the chin. I mean, she's not out there whining and crying and moaning and groaning about it. No. But back to what I was saying. If you don't think that Kaitlyn should be on this team, which be that as it may, if you go back to the dream team, you probably remember the dream team. It was Carl Malone, Larry Bird was on there, Chris Mullin, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson. The list goes on. All of these all-time NBA greats. All-stars. But what they also had was Christian Laettner. Christian Laettner played for Duke. He was coming out of college at that point. They took a college player and put him into the Olympics. Because the whole reason why the Olympics, why we selected NBA stars to go and play in the Olympics was because we kept getting beat. And before we had all of these stars go in, it was mostly all college players. So they still took a college player with them that year because that was kind of the tradition. So, yeah, Kaitlyn, she's the face of the league. People are upset about that because they thought that they should be. You know, Asia Wilson, arguably the best player in the WNBA. She's not getting the like that she deserves. Athletes, yeah. Because of, well, I'm not going to say because of Kaitlyn. But when you go from being the best player in college across, I think there were more people that watched the women's college basketball list in March than there were men. And that's a large part due to Kaitlyn's play, I think. I do, too. You know, and some of those rivalries you have at that level. Yeah. And she was at the right place at the right time. And I think a lot in life bears on that. You know, you have to be at the right place at the right time. And there can be people that are less than another person in their mind. And they're at the right place at the right time. And they get the accolades that the other person doesn't, but should be. Well, that's kind of the thing of this person was a lot more talented than I am. You know, and you get pros that say that sometimes. I grew up with a guy. He was a lot better than I was at the game. But for whatever happenstance, he fell out of it, and I was, I kept going. Yeah. And then by keep going, but when I kept going, I kept getting better. And then I got to where I was. There you go. All you need is your chance. All you need is one opportunity. That's right. This is your moment. You know, Eminem's got a song about it. There's a reason for that. Yeah. So, well, now we got to come to an abrupt close because some of us have to go and do other things. That's right. So, we enjoyed this, I thought. Oh, I really enjoyed it. I hope the listeners enjoyed it as much as we enjoyed putting it out there for them. I mean, I know I got an annoying voice and you got to hear me for four to six minutes, but that's okay. So, you have a good voice to listen to. So, we hope you guys enjoy this one, and thank you for listening.