Coffee Break #10

In this episode of Coffee Break with Rio and Joe, they discuss the importance of staying committed to your goals and not giving in to instant gratification. They talk about the challenges of staying focused and motivated, but emphasize the need to stay disciplined and believe in oneself. They also discuss the importance of treating others with kindness and empathy, even when faced with negativity. Overall, their goal is to inspire and help others through their podcast. Welcome back everybody to another episode of Coffee Break with Rio and Joe. You might even ask Joe how she's doing because this week I'm going to start it off in a way we've never done before and that's by providing a quote that I find important. In life your why factor has to be stronger than your objections and what that means is you have to remember why you're doing something and stick to it otherwise you will never stick to it. Such as for instance we all have a point in our life where we're looking to lose weight and we might see it you know crumble or another place that we love that's got a lot of calories and whatever we eat we see that we're like you know what I'm going to go and get that cookie even though I'm supposed to lose weight I'm going to get that anyway because the weights always going to be there I might as well enjoy what I want to enjoy. But if you stick to what your guns are of I gotta lose X amount and by the way you have to have something that's achievable and attainable and you also have to put a measurement on it otherwise you'll never stick to it. It's like setting a path but being blind. So in other words stick to your guns understand there is a day in which you can enjoy whatever you want to enjoy but you have to reach your objectives first and it comes down to being disciplined. Enough rambling from me we'll introduce Jo now. Jo how you doing? Hi not too bad today I really like the start of your talk it's really intriguing. Well it's something that we all kind of struggle with and it's something I've struggled with recently. It's the idea of we all want something and we all want it now. Instant gratification. Yes whether it's us reading a book which I'm an avid reader I read every day and sometimes I read slower than I want to and I just want to be done with that book so I can move on to the next one or if it's losing weight it's a marathon it's not a sprint you're never going to get there in one day it's all going to build off of itself until you get to where you want to be but you have to stay the course otherwise it'll just get derailed. It will yeah that's absolutely right. There are people that feel like they're at the point of no return in their lives and I think it's a very sad day for somebody to be in that mindset because there's always something to achieve there's always a goal there's always a mindset that we can get ourselves in and we can achieve it if we believe it and we see it we can do it. As long as there's a breath left in you it's never too late. I agree that's a good statement yeah you know we've all been in deep dark places that we never thought we would get out of yeah but there are brighter days ahead. Absolutely I know I've had you know people come and talk to me about different problems or situations they're dealing with in their lives that are very very difficult and it's their reality and it's hard sometimes to talk somebody off the ledge when they're going through it but in say a week or a month from the time we had a conversation about their dilemmas it was a really good time in their lives. But we've all had failures in whether it's business, personal, educational or dark places such as we have a deal that goes belly up and now we're left thinking that it's our fault and we let our own inadequacies speak. Yes. That's a serious issue people got to understand things are going to play their course all you can do is your best. I think that the thing that you and I do the best is we know how to bob and leave so if we hit the proverbial brick wall say we sit down we think about it we feel it we talk about it and we weave into a new direction we don't just sit and take the punch. Well you have to acknowledge the problem that's the hardest part of solving it. Exactly. But that's to the other point of when we get down on ourselves it's easy to stay there and dwell on it. It is. That's one of the worst things you can do for yourself. It is. It's a terrible thing instead of being proactive there's so much out there right now as far as listening to positive podcasts or reading positive books or getting used to pulling your mind out of the doldrums that you're in that way it makes it easier for a person to accept what they're going through and know that they have a way to resolve the issues in their lives. And understand that there were people that had walked a path maybe not similar to that one but a struggle of their own. Oh I say if you want to think you're the only one going through something in life just google it. But the hard part is you're the one in it. Yeah exactly. You know you can look at all of these atrocities happening around the world but you can't relate to it first hand like you're the one living it. Yeah exactly but there is a way out it's kind of like Dorothy and the Red Slippers you've always been in Kansas right? You've always had the way out you just haven't looked for it. Well some of us do but some of us drowned in a one inch puddle. Yeah exactly. It's easier than trying to have to work hard to climb that mountain isn't it? But then you also have this other side of the coin too where they don't realize what they're doing but on a subconscious level they get themselves in a rut where they constantly have issues all the time and what ends up happening is they tell everybody those issues but they don't really want anybody to solve them they'd much rather keep telling people about them. That's the other side that people can get into. Yeah it is it's a travesty I think you know you can't go through life feeling sorry for yourself and then expecting other people to feel sorry for you pretty soon you're the person that people want to stay away from because they know it's going to be nothing but a depressing moment to spend that time with you. It's almost like in Winnie the Pooh Eeyore you know something similar to that. Here comes Eeyore. The thing about that and it's the adult message is don't ever give up on anybody treat everybody nicely because you never know what somebody else is going through. Exactly. You know even if they're mean or rude to you you don't have to stoop down to their level. Well you know I had a situation experience this last week here with a lot of people that I've never made the choice to hang around with but I was forced into the situation with people that you know I don't think really there was one in particular I know she doesn't care for me whatsoever as far as you know I'm not in a life contest so it didn't bother me and in my old self I would get upset and maybe be a little rude and give her a little bit of dish back on her because hey she was mean to me she was nasty to my family in certain times. She had it coming. Yeah that's what I would have thought but not this time the new me. I was like well hello and her name well good morning and her name or what time do you think we'll be there and her name and I had a smile on my face the whole time and I've just learned that sometimes life is a little bit better and maybe I was being a little cynical but I meant it or I wouldn't have said it. The high road is one that's not always easy to take. It's hard it's really hard but at the end of the day you can hang your hat knowing you did what you could. Yeah because I own it whether I want to take that low road and kick gutter balls with that person or I want to take the high road and I'll own whatever road I take and whatever path I go down I have to own that. Well you don't have to own what they say I think it was Buddha who said somebody came up to him and was pretty much cursing him out degrading him running him down right saying all these nasty things. But guess what he asked him so if I refuse to accept these words who do they belong to? Of course it belongs to the person that said them. So Buddha has nothing on his soul that makes him feel weighed down because he didn't degrade another person. That other person that degraded him has to deal with that. Yep and I just hope maybe little acts of kindness for people that we don't know what they're going through in life maybe we can impact them in a positive way. I don't know why that individual really doesn't like me or have so much negativity. And it might not even be you it could just be life in general. Oh no it's me. Hell maybe life in general. In some situations not in yours but in some. But I you know I'm proud of myself for owning the fact that I didn't lower myself to another level that's not me I would have not liked to have been that person. And that's not an easy thing I mean at my age I've had to learn a lot of this and do a lot of thinking. Sometimes when you sit in your own silence it really helps a mindset. But that can be a very uncomfortable place sitting in your own head. Yeah it can be. I'm not saying sit there like you're stagnating in some pool of pity on yourself. No I'm saying sitting there left with your own thoughts that could be a dangerous place. Mine's a playground. Yeah mine's kind of a wasteland I guess. I wouldn't say that but I just think you know on a positive note and we hope that this these podcasts that Rio and I do will benefit somebody out there. If one person benefits and gets to live a happier self we've accomplished our goals I think. Well it's more than our goals. Yeah. I mean anything we've done anything we do it's always predicated on helping people. It is. And that's kind of I think sometimes people can get stuck in their own journey in their heads and it's not always a good one. And I remember when I started this business the first thing I thought of is wow I've been given this gift I never knew existed within me. And I protested. I wasn't going to I wasn't going to pick this as an occupation coffee roasting. But I one day I just had this epiphany kind of like a storm way out on the horizon of the ocean and I could hear the faint rumbles coming in and I got so excited I thought holy smokes if this is going to be as big as I think it is there are so many people that are going to benefit from this gift that I didn't even know I had. I've never ever lived life for myself it's been service above self and I look outside and see who can benefit from this who can we help and I know you've taken up on that too. And I think that comes naturally to some people like for me I didn't have to learn that but I think once you start learning how to give or thinking about giving and it might just be kind words it doesn't have to be a monetary thing or something big maybe opening a door for somebody. You know I had somebody sorry to cut you off at the same time. First off you were one of the before this started really taking off one of the first philanthropic companies that uses the business to give back. Sure you had philanthropic people that were business magnates or the like. But anyway back to what you were saying about opening a door. I had a conversation with somebody earlier and he had opened a door for a woman right which is chivalry you do that type of thing it's just common courtesy whether it's woman man whatever. Yeah. And she looked at him and she said I'm fully capable of doing that myself. And I thought when did that go away when is it in today's day and age where people just don't think that people are going to be nice that they can't be nice without something being attached to it. Yeah she just might have been an ornery person that's all I mean that happens too but you can't let one ornery person stop you from living your best life or being the best you that you can in a day. Yeah well you have 14,000 seconds or something like that in a day and if it takes eight seconds you can't let somebody ruin it. No that's right. You can't throw the other time away you just move on. Exactly. You know and we're givers but let's go to takers right. This is an interesting thing that you were talking about earlier. Lego stores are getting robbed. They are in huge numbers I was so surprised. Well I remember you sent me a report it was like 500 Lego sets in somebody's garage. Yeah. And a lot of them were duplicates of one another. Yes. I was thinking well you know I would have just strategically taken one of each thing kept them for myself you know but instead this guy got a little greedy and he was starting a business and selling them on the side and it's like well these Lego sets on average run anywhere between $20 to $1,000 depending on which ones you get depending on how many pieces you get but they're an asset that generally appreciates too because they have collector's editions they got ones that they come out with and they'll take off the market and then that'll drive the value of them up or the ones that were hard to find because they didn't produce a lot of them. So there's a market for this and there's a business to this Lego thing so don't think that they're just stealing kids toys. No you enlightened me on that I thought I thought you guys Lego us when you were little and I... No we got some Build-A-Block things those weren't Legos. They were the big ones. Yeah. Because I didn't like stepping on the little ones you did have little ones at one point in time. Oh yeah. Well that's true we did. Yeah. But it's almost becoming to the point where those businesses have to do one of two things either do what Target did in San Francisco which is have everything in solid cases locked up locked up it's impossible to shop there or they just close their doors and say buy everything online. Walgreens had to shut a lot of their doors because of theft and where in society in my whole years that I've been on this planet I cannot remember an American society where what's going on today with all of the thievery was acceptable. Well it's absolutely insane that people think that they can go in and they can rob from innocent people that are trying to make a living just like everybody else. People are getting away from having to pay to a higher cause whether whatever that may be to you there isn't a lot of repercussions for people's actions and by not having those in place you allow them to continue to do that type of stuff. Yeah I know there's foreign countries where if you steal something you lose a hand. I saw a person in one of those countries that was hopping on one foot. I mean. What they take both the hands already? And the foot. Yeah. He had one foot left. Oh boy. So I mean how big is that compulsion? Was he that desperate I thought? What did he even feel compelled to steal? Well in those countries your poverty level could be so low to the point where you're just trying to steal food to stay alive. For instance while this is another movie reference or play on it but it can be used not to diminish it in any means like Aladdin for instance in the beginning where they had to steal the bread to be able to eat so they don't end up dying. Right. Yeah I wondered. You know it was a very poor country too so I don't know. I mean he had to be really desperate or mentally incapacitated to lose both hands and a foot. Desperate times call for desperate measures. I guess so. Yeah. All around the board. Yep. I don't think we have those kind of uncivilized punishments in this country though. But the thing is there's not even a punishment. You were telling me about a store I don't know if it was a chain of stores. No it was one store and what they did this was back when all this theft started happening about two years ago or so. And you can't report it or you couldn't call in and report it unless it was over $500 worth of stolen goods. And they marked everything up to $500 until people got to the counter to pay for it and then they'd bring it back down to the price that it should have been sold at. Interesting. Yeah. Which is smart because you can't tell me if you're a small business that's just trying to make it whether somebody steals something that's $30 or $10 that that doesn't take something out of your bottom line in your pocket. That hurts small businesses. That's death by a thousand paper cuts. And it also hurts the taxpayers in the communities because we and while the customers to consumers in the communities because we have to compensate for that theft. I was talking to a lady this last week when I was out and about with a group and she said that somebody had bolted out the doors in a local community around us with a cart full of groceries and none of them were bagged. And she went in and told one of the managers, somebody bolted out the door with a cart full of groceries. Yeah, I know. By the time we call the cops, they'll be gone. I thought, Oh my God, that's a terrible thing. Well, what do you do? Nothing. You know, my sister and I, we were shopping at TJ Maxx before in Bismarck and somebody had had a handful of clothes, socks and some other arrangement of things and they bolted out the door. We were leaving at the same time they were, but we saw they left slightly before we did and everybody was just kind of aghast. They were like, what just happened? Or at least that's what I was thinking. By the time we get out there, I looked to see if there was, they take the license plates off their cars. So they're impossible to identify. Yep. I saw some people come out of a liquor store one time and they were taken off to their car and there was another group of people that were heading in the same direction coming out of a dollar store. They got to this big old car and they pulled the back seat forward and started shoving a bunch of goods that they had stolen. What's the point? I don't know. I mean, in that type of stuff, what's the point? Yeah. Who needs a bottle of booze that bad? Alcoholics? Yeah, but to do that, and then I was with my husband and he was in the store and witnessed what that lady had done. And then he told the cashier, he said, that lady just took that cart full of liquor out of here. And she said, yeah, I know, but I'm the only one working and I can't go do anything about it. Workers' hands are tied. Holy man, when I was a kid back in the seventies, if we'd ever stolen a candy bar off a shelf and gotten caught, you just thought the wrath of God and the earth was going to crumble down around you. Well, a candy bar was five cents. What are you, you don't have five cents? I don't go that far back, really. Fifteen, maybe. But the point being is everybody that's in customer service or in those type of chains, they're told if somebody steals something, your job is to do nothing. Well, that's right. Because you have to protect yourself first and foremost. If you go chasing after somebody, who knows, they could stab you if they brought a knife with them, or they could shoot you if they brought a gun with them. Yeah. It's not worth your life. No, but you've heard about innocent employees that maybe stepped a little bit off of that line as far as not confronting the thief. You know, they did go and confront them and they lost their jobs. Well, that can happen too. That was terrible, yeah. I mean, you look at people that have stood up for others, that they gave a voice to the voiceless essentially, and while that subway incident that happened in New York a couple of, maybe it was a year ago or so, with the former military man that was trying to restrain another person and accidentally killed him, and now he was looking at prison time. He probably got prison time for it. I think he's still going to court. Daniel Penny, that was his name. I pray for that guy every night. I just feel so bad. He didn't get up that morning and think, I'm going to kill me a man on the subway. It happened. Yeah. And is it awful that it happened? Yes, it is, because you don't want anybody to lose their lives, but at the same time, if that prevented him from doing more harm to other people... Yeah. Oh, they were scared. That guy was threatening everybody else. It's a hard situation. Very hard. One I wouldn't want to be in. No, I wouldn't either. And it's sad. Innocent people suffer for the ills of the bad people. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, on an unrelated note, because we're kind of diving down that rabbit hole a little too deep. Yeah. You were telling me something about botulism. Oh, yeah. They have coffee recalls now, and some of them are pretty well-known coffee brands. They didn't... What happened is the company that was manufacturing the canned coffee, it was liquid already in a can. Mm-hmm. And they did not do the proper reporting to the FDA, so the FDA said there's potential for botulism in these cans because they're a low-acid product, and they pulled them off the market. I don't believe that they found any botulism in the cans, but just for the fact that they didn't report to the FDA the proper paperwork, that could have happened. So, there is a potential of there being botulism. It's not the fact that it's actually there. Yeah. Okay. That's better. That happened with another company a couple months ago, too. The potential was there, but it wasn't... It was never found in the product. It's still concerning. Yeah. It is very concerning. Because botulism does what exactly? Oh, it can shut your system down, your nervous system. It can kill you. You can die from it. I always thought back in the day when I was growing up, if anybody ever got that, like from canned foods and stuff when a lot of home canning was still going on back then, that that was a death sentence. You'd just die. But from what I read, it can just make you really sick, blurry vision, mess with your stomach, and it can still kill you. But I think we maybe have some medications that help people get through it, and it can happen within a matter of six hours, you start feeling symptomatic with it. That kicks in fast. Very fast. But it brings me to my advertisement point. Okay. Mojo Roast has never given anybody botulism. We've never had any recalls on our product. No. Okay. They're all natural. They're specialty grade coffees, fair trade coffees, roasted to perfection. So if you guys are looking for products that range from light to dark roasts and anywhere in between, shopmojoroast.com, shopshopnd, look us up on Facebook, Twitter, or ask in Instagram at Mojo Roaster. What are you guys waiting for? Oh, come on over to the good side. Yeah, we'll get you guys hooked up. I was going to say dark side, but not everybody likes dark roasted coffee. People say it's got less caffeine in it. Yeah, that's minuscule, though. I mean, it's not something that you're going to notice in your morning cup of coffee if you want a dark roast and you drink your morning coffee. Hey, look, to them caffeine junkies, you tell them, even if it's a small choice amount, they want to get as much as they possibly can out of there. Oh, there you go. But if you want a very strong, bold flavor, you've got to go with a dark roast. Especially on that Brazil we have. You know, I'm surprised at how much people like that, because Brazil, for starters, is already a strong coffee. It is, yeah. It doesn't matter if you roast it light or dark, but people really seem to like that dark roasted Brazil. I know. I love it. See, I'm not quite to that level, but I'm also a decaf guy. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm going to ask you this other question, because it pertains to coffee. With these chains, or local places, they give out what's called pup cups. You ever heard of those? Yeah. They fill up a cup with whipped cream, and then they give it to the dog. What do you think of those? They're cute. We used to go to the dairy clean with our poodle when we were kids, and we'd get him a small kid's cone. Same thing. But he got to eat the cone, too. But yet, whenever I get my dog a cone, my mom gets mad at me. Well, because he gets upset stomachs. You think he gets upset stomachs. He likes Burger King. He likes McDonald's. He likes all of that stuff. Oh, no. Yeah. So, I'm going to go over some sports, because the last time we had talked, there wasn't much going on. Not much. But there was the NBA draft on Thursday night. Oh, that's a good thing. I think it was Thursday and Friday night. I heard something about that. Brawny. Brawny James. Yeah. Drafted second round. Yeah. Probably should have never been drafted. Well, that's what they're saying. It could cause a little turmoil. What had happened with his situation was, this was his first year in college. Yes. Most people's first year in college isn't very good, unless you were already built for that, right? Yeah. A lot of times, it's a stepping stone that you've got to get over. It's a massive hurdle. A lot of different game play, and so on and so forth. Right. He was only averaging less than five points a game, under five rebounds and five assists a game, and he was kind of struggling, right? Do you think nepotism has a little play in there? Everybody kind of thinks nepotism does. Yeah. But you almost feel bad for the kid because of the amount of pressure that he has based off of who his dad is. Right. He was trying to play with his son so bad, he was going to force him to get to the league one way or another, because father time's catching up. Yeah. Even though it doesn't look like it right now, LeBron had a hell of a season, and one of his still putting up great numbers in comparison to anybody else, but eventually, that's going to start wearing away. Eventually. But, the thing for Bronny was, he declared for the draft, and he also left USC, University of Southern California, where he was enrolled. Right. If he didn't get drafted, he was going to transfer to some other school. They end up drafting him in the second round, like I said, it'll be interesting to see what happens. Yes. Some of the other interesting things is Donovan Klingin, who played for the UConn Huskies, who won the national championship this year and last year, he signed with Portland Trailblazers. It's going to be interesting to see, oh, speaking of Trailblazers, we have a Trailblazer coffee too for anybody that likes a medium and a dark roasted blend. Oh, yeah, that's fabulous. But anyway, back to what I was saying, it's going to be interesting to see what they do with DeAndre Ayton, because he's also a center, and Donovan Klingin, they're going to probably keep one and get rid of the other. Or maybe they already did, I don't know, I guess I haven't kept up with it that far. Yes. Kyle Filipowski, who played for Duke, was expected to go in the first round, but he fell to the second round. And now he's picked up by the Utah Jazz. So that'll be interesting to see how well he does there. I did a little bit of homework, too, on your girl, Katelyn Clark. Yes. Okay? So here's some statistics about what Katelyn does. It's not her stats, but she draws in more fans by 4,000 than the Washington Wizards did in the NBA. Yes. You don't ever see a WNBA team bringing in more fans than the NBA does. And you don't follow hockey at all, I don't either. I watch it. I mean, I enjoy it if I see it. If we're at like Applebee's or someplace like that, you know, it's always a nice thing to watch the games they have. Well, this is kind of just more of those interesting facts that had happened. Jason Tatum plays for the Boston Celtics, and his childhood friend, Matthew, I can't say his last name, he's a hockey player, they both won championships this year. One in the NBA, one in the Stanley Cup. There you go. Okay? Mercedes Lewis, who's a tight end who's played forever, quite literally, he's played since 2006. That's 18 years. That's a long, a long time. He's played against Marvin Harrison Sr., and he's going to be playing against his son Marvin Harrison Jr. The only other quarterback, well, the only other player that I can think that has done that is Tom Brady with Ahsante Samuel and Ahsante Samuel Jr. I don't think any other player has played against a father and a son. So that'll be interesting. Here's another strange fact, WNBA viewership with Caitlin Clark is at 1.1 million. Yeah, she's really brought a lot of new sports fans their way, for sure. Without her, it's at 428,000. Isn't that something? She brings in over double the amount than people would typically receive. Yep. It's astonishing what she's done. I think so, too. See, I don't have a mind for sports like you do. Really, my mind is for football, but football's not going on right now. Yeah. You know, another off of sports, on to something else. Do you ever realize that dogs are loved by everything? Except for mean cats. Yeah. Is a cheetah a cat? A cheetah is a big cat, but they seem to be the neediest of all big cats. They have to have a companion, and dogs usually make the best companions for them. When I was in the San Diego Zoo, I was wondering, why are there dogs in there? I thought the dogs were going to get eaten. But it's because the cheetahs have such bad anxiety that dogs are there to help soothe them. Yep. They're not only companions for people, but they are for the big cats, too. Makes sense. The world's fastest land animal has anxiety. Yeah. Well, they use dogs for a lot of things. They use them for, like, the great apes. They'll put dogs in with them. It's something to get the babies acclimated, and they need something to attach to. So they have dogs, and they do it. I saw one on a rhino reserve, even, a dog sticking with a rhinoceros. I think it was a white rhino. They're so endangered, and they use the dogs to kind of help keep them calm, too. There was also a dog in an elephant sanctuary. Yep. And the dog had broken a leg or something, right? It was down for a period of time. And it bonded with an elephant, and the elephant bonded with the dog. Yeah. And once that dog was bedridden, so to say, for a period of time, the elephant wouldn't leave the area that that dog was in. That's pretty cool. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I saw an interesting documentary on dogs, and everybody hears that they came from wolves, and even down to the little chihuahua, and you think, how? Well, like back in the caveman days, when the wolves were in competition with man and food and hunting, the wolves would watch the men, and the men would watch the wolves, and they would learn from each other. And pretty soon it started getting recognized by some of these early hunters that there are paths of docile wolves that would come right into their camp, and they would eat with them, and they were not aggressive whatsoever. And that's kind of how the taming of the domestic dog is right now. You don't want something that's afraid of everything to be protecting you. No, but, like, say, for example, in Russia right now, you can get their very specialized fox, and the Russians are really good at genetics, and they were watching these foxes, and they noticed in some of the litters that there were some foxes that were more docile than other ones, so they started breeding the docile ones together, and now they make great pets. It's like people that use chickens for fighting or dogs for fighting, right? Yeah, yeah. They breed the most aggressive ones together to be able to get a more aggressive dog. Right. That comes through genetics. Yep. But back to what you were saying about having the wolves go to people's camps and such, well, it's also thought that wolves had helped early man fully develop their prefrontal cortex, because before then, people were typically sleeping in two four-hour shifts. Yeah. They weren't sleeping for six to eight hours a night. Comfortably, anyway. Well, I mean, when everything's trying to kill you, I don't know how you can sleep. So it's kind of interesting on how that whole genetic thing plays a role in it. But how do you go from a wolf to a Pomeranian? Boy, oh, boy. I am not a scientist. Maybe there was a really short, shaggy wolf, and they just started breeding them down. And that's what it sounds like what happened to how domesticated dogs came about, just breeding wolves down and breeding them down. And some look different than others, just like some dogs look different than others. I mean, you could have a dog like mine that looks like he's not but a couple of generations removed from a wolf. Yeah, if even. Or you could have one that looks like something completely different, a chihuahua, for instance. Yeah, that's what I say. How did they get a wolf out of that? A lot of time and a lot of crossbreeding. Something, yeah. A lot of time. Are you a cat person? No. You know, I like cats as long as I don't own them and they're not in the house. So you don't like cats. I don't like cats. You just said, as long as I don't own them and they're not in my house. That means you don't want them outside either. No, they can be outside. They're great outside. But they're in the house. They climb on counters. They get up on everything. They eat wires. I've seen that, boy, they can be pretty destructive. But so can a dog that isn't well trained, too. But cats, they're climbers. I don't know. They're okay. They're fun to watch. They're kind of comedic, you know, when you see them going after different things. That's the fun part I like about them. But to own one, I don't think so. I always wonder why the ancient Egyptians worshipped cats. Yeah. Well, that pharaoh dog, how did a wolf get all the way over there? What do you mean? Haven't you ever seen a pharaoh dog? Uh-uh. Well, they're pretty cool-looking dogs. They're an Egyptian dog, and they look really elegant. They're sleek and kind of leggy. You see them, like, in some Egyptian artwork. Usually it's a black dog, kind of a long pointed nose on them. You can lift them up later on. But they're pretty cool, pharaoh dogs. But I suppose they had desert wolves back then, too. Because those do exist. Well, it's kind of interesting on how we have a misunderstanding of certain things. Uh-huh. Such as, there's a guy up in Alaska that has a bone yard. And he, I think it's only 40 acres. Uh-huh. And he uncovers a lot of bones from dryer wolves and mammoths. Oh, well, there's a lot. The permafrost is going away, so a lot of that stuff, the old, old, like, mammoths, woolly mammoths and the different animals that lived in that era are starting to show through, like, on the cliffs. And it's very dangerous to kind of be around those areas because the grounds are shifting and the permafrost is melting. But the point being is nobody thought dryer wolves were in Alaska. Yeah. And it could have been back before all of this, back when it was Pangea, where, you know, it could have been connected to Europe. There was a landmass that you could have crossed, yeah. So that's kind of interesting, like I said, on how animals could have gotten all over the world. Yeah. Right. The other thing is, isn't it, aren't the Russians looking to create mammoths again? Yeah, they found one, and it was really interesting. It was a baby woolly mammoth, and when it got exposed, it still had its natural tissues on it, but it was sitting right on its rump in a sitting position. And it still had food in its mouth, and it had some food in its belly, actually. And they couldn't figure out what in the world that animal was alive. It was eating, and then it died that quick. What could have done that? Some cataclysmic event happened where that animal was buried alive, put down right on its rump, and buried it right there. An avalanche? Yeah, maybe a meteor hit the earth, or maybe there was some type of volcanic eruption. But do you think that there would be some type of disruption with how that animal is, if it's fully intact and almost like nothing even happened to it? Yeah, but it could have happened miles away from it, and just the ash from the explosion, the impact that a meteor could have created, could have possibly buried that animal like that. But they're thinking they want to take the DNA, since it's viable on that animal, and impregnate an elephant with it, and recreate a woolly mammoth. Aren't mammoths like two times the size of elephants, though? Something like that. They'd have to take an African elephant, because they're the largest ones. It'd be interesting to see what does it make. What was that kid's show you guys used to watch? It was a movie, I guess, not a show. It was the two kids that kind of traveled, time traveled, There was a guy that was making little dinosaurs down in the bottom of a volcano. Was it Steve Buscemi was in it? Was he smoking crack or something? No, kids, spy kids. Yeah, they weren't making dinosaurs. That dude down in the bottom of the volcano was. He had a whole little village. No. Okay, I don't remember that. Okay, you were probably too young then. I'd have to watch it again. I don't think I'm watching that one. I'm pretty sure I'm right. There was a guy down there, and he had these little dinosaurs, and he was making them. I think terrarium, is that what you're trying to say? Something like that. Sporks, that's where that word came from. He had names for everything, but he was combining them. Creating his own little menagerie, let's say. Okay. What were we getting at with that again? You're the one that brought the mammoth, recreating the woolly mammoth. Then I just started thinking of the spy kids episode where that mad scientist was. It's not an episode, it's a movie. It's a movie, yeah. But there was an episode inside the movie. A segment? A segment, there we go. We could call it that, yeah. A scene? Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, one of them. Okay, on to new and bigger things. One thing I'm going to ask you about, and this is kind of interesting, and something that I thought of earlier today, is about the evolution of music. You and I are both music people. I mean, we're not the biggest music people, but we both have a taste for it. What do you think about, from the beginning, where you had your, say, country music in your 50s, you had your jazz music before that, it kind of seems like country music is coming back. Yeah, it does. It's really big, I think, because, well, there's a lot of new up-and-coming young people, so they're going to get their followers. And it's more of a rocking-type country nowadays than it was back in the day. Like, if you listen to Jim Reeves or Ferlin Husky, those guys, that wasn't rock at all. That was strictly country. No, that was depressing stuff. You go back to the soulful Elvis Presley. I mean, he had, that's where I think rockabilly kind of started through him. Oh, that was blues. Well, he did that too. The guy was very talented, yeah. And then you go a little bit further ahead into rock music, right? Yeah, yeah. And everybody that was of that older generation didn't like the new generation with all the rock kids. They thought that that was ruining everything and that that was the fall. And, well, I mean, it clearly wasn't, was it? No, but you know what I think was interesting? You and I did this one time. We got curious about the music, and I was asking Siri, what was the number one hit in the 1920s? And I even went back into the 1800s musical hits. It's something that I think people, if they're curious, they should just Siri that or Alexa that, find out what hits were the greatest hits back in the 1800s and then work all the way up through the 20s and 30s and 40s and 50s. It's kind of interesting. And then in the 90s, you had your favorite decade for music. No. You had a lot of gangster rap and hip-hop and R&B, and nowadays you have an infusion of all of that, it seems. You have your rock hits mixed with your pop, you know, and then you got your hip-hop again, which is still your favorite. Yeah. You know, your rap. Speaking of which, have you heard about this whole Kendrick Lamar and Drake beef? No. This feud? No. See, that's back to that whole thing that I was asking you about earlier about how these terms are now. For instance, beef is two people not liking each other, not getting along. And beef to me is right away in my mind is the older gal on TV commercials that would get a burger and then she'd say, where's the beef? And then you'd hear that beef music commercial, you know. But you never heard about this Kendrick and... No. No, you probably wouldn't want to. I mean, it's something that's over now. What happened? Well, Kendrick and Drake, they started feuding over who was the better rapper amongst other things. And then, well, seems like Kendrick kind of put that to rest. Yeah. I'm kind of paraphrasing a lot. There's a lot more details than that. Yeah, I'm sure people can Google it if they want to know more. I think my favorite, I can't even pick an era or type of genre of music that I like the best because there's so much that I like out there from like the 50s, 60s. I'd say 70s would be my most favorite rock music. 80s, 90s, not so much. What do you mean 80s? You don't like Billy Joel? Well, I like him but not as much as I like Kid Rock or any of those guys. Guns N' Roses, ACDC. That was the 80s. Yeah, early 80s. Yeah, you said you didn't like the 80s. I said some of the 80s, not so much any of the 90s. Why didn't you like the 90s? More than my style. You've lived a lot of stuff here. I have. You've lived through a lot of generations of music. You've lived through a lot of innovation. Yeah. I mean, the only other thing I got to add is have a happy 4th to everybody. Very happy 4th of July. Don't blow your fingers off. Enjoy it, know what it's for, and have fun and be safe. Yes, well said. And with that being said, this concludes another episode of Coffee Break. Until next time.