mandela joylove

oh so I've heard so I've heard a little bit yeah yeah yeah it's a real rushing waters it's a real abundant waters it's gonna be great I have full faith you go away worse a little bit yeah we were here for bringing about we're for bringing about oh wow potent we were talking about Nelson Mandela and we were talking about systems frameworks that govern human society Robert and how know thousands of year perhaps built into various agendas per se you see it on every level and how to perhaps go about fixing that that's kind of where we were leaving off now yeah so if you believe that not even if you believe a human being we see ourselves cure ourselves heal ourselves constantly and there's what to argue that bigger systems can also do that can heal themselves if we first have to posit that we can if we believe that like maybe there are many different determinants who say we cannot if we can then I would also take it even more extreme if they we can in the present the only thing that an individual can do in the present is is the personal that's why we were talking about love and joy when individual is personally redeemed from their own let's say thousands of years of nefarious different activity that's going on into perhaps you know this individual all of our ancestors were killers monstrous killers that's the only way that they survived here you know I'm saying like all of our you know many of the people alive today the ancestors held slaves and were slaves like full end of the spectrum you know many of our ancestors entire families were killed and many of our ancestors killed entire families those are the people that are alive today you know similarly to these systems that have been on both sides of the you know love and the opposite spectrum you know long story to say that the individual can only change that within themselves even if an individual gets to the highest levels of some of the world they may not be able to change even one fundamental system of reality because the system isn't just based on the person at the top like we were talking about it everyone is building that system like we were talking about it's not just the billionaires that are running to go take ayahuasca and they're massively depressed it's across the board and the people at the bottom are taking what the system is giving them the failure and living it you know they're living the failure you know taking the propaganda living the propaganda all to say that an individual can only change themselves and by truly changing themselves you impact literally every single thing you touch becomes change because of that that's the specific power of the human being specific mission of the human being you know which is why it doesn't necessarily take an individual to know everything about everything regarding the issues of the system in order to change it so Nelson Mandela did was change himself when he came out you're saying yeah he impacted everyone correct Nelson Mandela did not need to understand the ancestral violence and conflict and hate of millions of people in order to remedy it to a certain degree and to bring it into a state of redemption it's not necessarily completely about the knowledge you do need some knowledge we're not saying that knowledge is just completely irrelevant you need like of course you had but he had nowhere near the full scope of things that's impossible for a specific human being to have the full scope of anything we go but he healed he healed his own demons Nelson Mandela healed his own demons which in turn because of the fact that he was in a position of power he was able to remedy the situation become a radical revolutionaries but how did he do that I would say he loves to enjoy these fundamental forces he came out and his personal demons his personal captors the people that took away 27 years of the prime of his life and put him in a tiny room he hugged them this is a radical revolutionary and you don't need all the information to be able to do that you need more of a metaphysical trip to go through the self to be able to overcome what needs to be overcome in order to do something like that is actually the great I think Sufi poet Muslim poet specific type I forget his name I always forget the names which is terrible but he says something along the lines of God told me to love thy enemy and I listened and I loved myself yeah yeah yeah I don't think so I would have I would have said right off the bat that it was I don't think so that would be too obvious could be Hafez but I don't want to misquote this quote but yeah I love myself you know that's the true enemy and that's the true battle all the systems that you see that are nefarious it's because of what needs to be redeemed and on the inside now that's not to say that when an individual has their personal redemption that everything else in the world is just going to be pixies and rainbows and fairies to say that they can make that impact on their reality with every step that they take joy breaks all boundaries love and joy I want to say it now because we have the mics that you know Nelson Mandela did that through sport he brought these guys together in celebration in joy individuals that didn't see each other as human beings individuals that saw each other as their enemy he brought them together in joy and celebration he knew he understood that both the black community of South Africa and the white community of South Africa took rugby very seriously and it's a movie and a long story and this was just one part of what he was he was trying to do but it was a fundamental part and specifically within the rugby team he had a black player on what was an all-white team in the apartheid South Africa and through the rugby team's success on a world stage he galvanized both the black and white South South Africans to look at each other in a different way because like we were saying when you're celebrating and in a state of joy in a shared state of joy this is what elevated you know a lot of decades if not hundreds of years if not more of ancestral deep-seated conflict and violence and racism and animosity etc yeah I mean yeah yeah I mean American sport is a completely different thing than almost anywhere else in the world obviously that's a whole different situation American sport is completely different and there's also yeah been yeah I wouldn't necessarily say it's to separate I think it's just a hardcore form of distraction and entertainment but again that's one of these things that you have to highlight everyone is a part of that system all the people that enjoy it the players that are being paid you know generational wealth to become gods of society and you know literally become the top top top 1% of the world by playing it and all the fans that love it and everyone who spends any type of money on it and the entire business that it creates the entire economic structures that it can create around the stadiums bars nightlife for different cities you know I'm so all these different very productive things per se the entirety of the system is playing to the system it's not just like who on high is using sport for a certain way it's also every single level of who's involved in sport in America that makes it the way that it is meaning it's not this system that oh if someone on top you know would use sport to bring us all together that now we would come all together you know I'm saying it's not as just as much as the blame and responsibility is on the top it also is completely down the bottom specifically regards to sport these people will do exactly what the masses want because they want their money it's a it's a it's a cyclical situation like it's not just propaganda that the people on high are trying to give people you know and trying to you know control them that's partially at the same time like these are companies that want to make money so they're just going to give exactly what the person wants like these algorithms in social media they're taught to give you what you want to make you stay on longer it's everyone across the board 100% like we were saying each individual is not redeemed on every level of course there would be fantastic if we had a radical redeemed revolutionary leader that would be awesome you know that would probably help society at large more so than if individuals themselves at the same time each individual that even not necessarily I mean yes America kills off revolutionaries and radical revolutionaries that many times but not in the way that we're talking about many of the American radical revolutionaries still sought not unity love joy they sought other things they say you know many radical revolutionaries sought for perhaps many good reasons by forms of divisiveness forms of separation and a lot of those ideas which I think are absolutely counter to fixing any of societal issues is the fact that we're all in it together we all are absolutely fundamentally dependent on one another on a global scale on a community scale on a family scale on a personal scale and so we're all playing a non-viewer some game where we all need to win or all going to lose that's the game by basic fact as a race there is no there's no winners at the end like there's no multi-billionaire they hide in the bunker and now they live underground in these disturbing lives while everyone else dies like there's no winning it's either you win as a team or you lose as a team that's the that's the situation so that also means when you're looking at any of these societal structures that everyone to a certain degree is responsible include of course starting with the people on top and then trickling down to everyone else that's a whole other trip yeah that's a whole other trip fun guy interestingly enough interacts with it with itself in a very unitive way in a very teamwork fashion in fungi that's under you know all of the earth I'm sure Barack could talk a lot to that and also the way that it works when you put it into your body it starts to create a lot of different connections combinations synthesis either way that's a different trip for sure definitely the fun guys a different trip but an individual has to succeed in the system that is designed to make them fail across the board and obviously there's levels to it you know the people that have to succeed in the system that they're designed to fail and even though they're in a Lambo is very different than people that are in poverty or in Darfur but comprehensively it's because there's issues across the board we no one can you know place blame in a specific sphere and think that that's that's the issue it's just clearly a comprehensive top-to-bottom people like to say systemic issue but that is the system as we were talking about that's what it's always been that's the reality personal redemption by default by default personal first of all no one does anything alone oh you know we're obviously all completely interconnected as we were talking about personal redemption by default will lead not just it's not about attracting it in others especially in the modern society it's about bringing it out of others showing them that it's possible showing them that it exists when an individual for lack of better poetry reveals the truth of their soul they they ignite a human being to do the same that's around them and I would argue they force it out of them in the modern day we like to call this authenticity authenticity breeds authenticity a very authentic individual will bleed people to be their true selves in front of them because your experience it's a fire you know you're experiencing it so passionately so real you know such a like this is what life is you know type of moment that when it comes into your face you have no choice but to to join in a radical type of love and joy it happens to everyone you know you see even just an individual laughing their ass off you know like I just they just heard the funniest joke ever and you watch it you didn't hear the joke you're just watching them laugh cackle and you will eventually start to laugh yourself undoubtedly unless you're in a very very dark place you know if you're just in a casual place in your mind and you look at one of the same and one of the same oh yes brother good redemption baby that's Brock's personal journey you're trying to give everyone that's part of it seemingly that's part of it especially especially yes especially in modern society seemingly it would be impossible to completely redeem ourselves you know because we haven't seen it we haven't experienced a human being come across our lives that is completely redeemed so there's very very very large path you know like what religions claim themselves to be and then obviously there's all these different physical like when you say the word health physically healthy different paths and frameworks and data and all of that exactly in terms of what Barak is also alluding to I think that redemption is a metaphysical thing because our shackles redemption from what we keep saying redemption redemption from what like the Judaism tradition says Egypt what does that mean that we're still slaves in Egypt what are we slaves to what do we need to be redeemed from not only is that a completely personal question that I would argue has nothing to do truly like second principle effects things that will come after our health and all these different other ideas but that comes before what am I trying to be redeemed from what is it that I feel is shackling me what is that and that's a very very very personal journey and like you were saying this complete levels to it infinitely across the board and each individual I would argue is their own infinite complete level when it comes to something like that this is why personal redemption is exactly what it is personal completely personal like we're using the poetry of you know redeeming oneself from their demons their inner demons you know and like you were saying that's something maybe you have to work on constantly that's something that perhaps you can come to an aha moment and relinquish certain demons if we want to talk about different shaman practices different spiritual and therapeutic practices you're talking about trying to you know search within and relinquish some of these demons in a very concrete way not in this you know complete poetry in a very confrontational real in your face way at least I think but I would argue that that that very very very simply very very simply simply simply put to each on their own level and again this is for some people this for everyone this is a huge radical thing for some people it could be like the Nelson Mandela's that are coming out of 27 years of prison all lives taken away from them treated as a non-citizen racism etc you know for some people it's much harder to tap that love like children in Darfur is a place in which everyone over the age of 13 years old has at least killed somebody one person everyone over the age of 13 if you haven't you die basically if you don't murder someone by the time they're 13 in that environment you die the worst of the worst types of places for a human consciousness to come up in the world and people think that that has no connection to let's say America like again it's all absolutely interconnected we could change it from there but if you don't if you don't process that then you think that like oh something happening wherever has no meaning like either way love joy breaks all of those barriers when a person can reach a true true true state of joy so deep on a very very basic level so deep that it's like beyond euphoria and it has nothing to do with drugs it has nothing to do with any additional supplements although that that if that interacts with the human being and they achieve that as well that's fantastic but it's not the only thing that that's fantastic crazy state of euphoria about yourself about reality just joy joy period again all very very personal that will break these barriers that will break these demons that a person has within themselves on a very very basic level like you were saying how does it what's the path how again completely personal and this is why all of humanity has written tons of books and books and books on all this stuff but it's a completely there's no conversation that will give over the path the path is completely personal for each individual and i think that's also fundamental that it's completely individual and at the same time we're all absolutely as a team operating together and both are absolutely fundamental and absolutely a hundred percent of the game that we're we're a fundamental team to the point of zero separation to the point of one entity and at the same time we have our own absolutely individual redemption path but when an individual is redeemed the entirety is redeemed as well on a certain level as we were saying both are the same thing basically happening at once so at a certain point does that overcome and become the majority i would argue it doesn't even have to become the majority using the poetry of let's say like legitimate darkness and light a small tiny amount of light can overcome a disproportionate exponentially disproportionate amount of darkness when you turn on the light in an extremely dark room pitch black room even a tiny light will have tremendous power so i would actually argue on the contrary we don't need even slightly majority i would argue that the system the situation or the systems that are designed for failure for many many people across the board for everyone i would argue across the board that all you really need is a tiny bit of light but again i would you know we're arguing that everyone is failing also comprehensively the sheep the the farmer the dog that's guarding the sheep the farmer's wife everybody is is comprehensively failing at this uh at this redemption thing um what do you have to say about that product it's hard to wrap my head around that um so it never ends and at the same time we only live in present moments if that journey even ends for one present moment then the whole notion of it never ends is void is moot just because it comes back that that doesn't mean anything i would argue say again oh human beings human beings experience present reality i don't know anyone who's been able to travel future or past literally if you do know somebody that actually can do that i'd love to hang out with them but no human beings from my understanding at least only live in the present continuous present moments so if in one present moment you have redemption you have let's say in that moment no shadow work to do um then that notion of it never ends is not um comprehensively true it's only true from one framework of how human beings experience uh experience over long periods of time you know which is why i definitely think the redemption is about moment like like uh it's about to see what it talks about it's just about a specific moment tripping on a laugh you know you laugh and you laugh hard go all the way down it you know it doesn't mean that you're probably not gonna you know wake up tomorrow with the same intervening and the same challenges it's not some superpower per se but how you impact yourself and anyone around you in those moments we also can't like you're saying we can't necessarily quantify we don't understand the butterfly effect within and without when it comes to those moments of of possible what we could call redemption it does seem like people want this this long-term redemption you know that's like the goal in the modern day that people are much more focused on their future obviously because of different societal structures people are very focused on like decade-long periods of life which could be a very productive thing seemingly a lot of different very wealthy people and successful people say that oh i made this plan this huge plan i was going to carry it out over many many years blah blah blah and it's for sure a lot of that that's great at the same time when it comes to redemption which like we were saying is not necessarily quantifiable or empirical it i would argue that it's definitely not it's a conversation that should not be had in conjunction with this whole time thing and like fulfillment and and those conversations i think they're very different things redemption versus contentness or fulfillment we were saying we were saying very specifically it's about releasing and the the inner prisons the inner prisons the shackles within the self by changing the self the only way to change the world in a product in a positive way is to change the self in a positive way that has to obviously coincide with any of your other any of another person's dreams about how to change the world you know you're not just going to like sit in a room although you can and i would argue it does change the world if a person sits in a room and is this incredibly you know beautiful human being but i would argue yeah like for sure we should we should individuals should be focused on both their personal redemption and simultaneously like seeing what they feel is wrong with the world or seeing what they feel is wrong with an issue within a certain system and trying to fix it what you see is probably your responsibility yeah what you're seeing as one of these major issues is is probably very deeply connected with your own inner demons and it would also think into the conversation we were having about just my trip and i said it's very much a lap not what i came here for but what i need for for what i did come here for me who pays off love has had a framework throughout the years of like it started with like a full circle kind of thing and then like a spiral within it is himself sometimes the loveliest trip and therefore is a wormhole with all of this which can go back i mean you can't like you're saying this in the present moment but if you like recall it or whatnot go back and forth and form this timeline and most of all get interconnected and just go deeper within the self and it kind of is a rabbit hole most definitely better most definitely it's a very the the the Kabbalistic interpretation between why the bible starts with the letter base why it starts with the number two is a very very long trip the whole narrative that creation starts with two creation starts with multiplicity one is not a part of our reality you're in terms of what you're saying you're highlighting another two that is becoming one from my perspective at least that's right that's what i'm looking at could have gone somewhere irrelevant but that is seemingly one of the uh the major games that we're trying to play is turning turning what appears to be complete disconnection and multiplicity into the coexistence of all in the unity of all there is no thing there everything everything comes everything everything came together you know what makes up the singular human being is a human being singular yes or no no but with all humans existing do you have singular singular missions singular parts of experience yes there are parts of the deepest compartments of the mind that cannot be given over to anyone else they're only for you and you alone correct both true exactly yes and no singularity is just as much it's a hundred percent and the the multiplicity is also a hundred percent oh yeah yeah yeah that's what seemingly all the most brilliant people are trying to do right now get ADI going but the the push for unity is just is just as potentially bad as it is good and that's why it needs to be done through redeemers and not through people in a state of darkness because when you you can create unity and then have absolute dark unity yeah yeah a world domination by a specific situation in which they unite the world under one government and it's all very very dark yeah it's all very bad for everyone like just because we all unify doesn't mean that that's going to be productive it has to coincide with a personal redemption because then the unity has nothing to do with all of these other very dark reasonings and they have to do with just accepting truth it has to do with just everyone being and acknowledging the truth and that's usually a good thing like I'm dependent on you you're dependent on me my success is your success your success is my success the enemy is the self not this imaginary configuration of who we try to claim to be this other source all of these different situations yeah unity could easily lead to bad shit too 100 percent the united states of america black's a little big oh yes be strong man being strong man