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Hello. Hello, hello, hello. First thing ever. Hello, everybody. My name is Kostas Pavlov. This is our first episode of the podcast. I'm very, very, very, very excited. This is a great day and let's go kick some ass. Let's go. All right, so now I've started recording. Okay, now you talk, you say something. Can you hear me? Hold on. Okay. Just keep talking, just keep talking. Okay. Let's have a conversation. Okay, so how was your day today? It was pretty good. I didn't get time to eat, which sucked. But I went to this like really cool talk about like slave stenographers in the late Roman Empire and like their like social class and how that impacted like the words they used and like the shorthand they used. That's pretty cool. That's cool. That's cool. I like that. That's really cool. Was it like a guest lecture or something? Something like that? Yeah, she wasn't even a professor. She was like a PhD student who I think they were like thinking about hiring. So they had her come and like give a lecture to the department. You think she did a good job? Yeah, yeah. She also like apparently does work on or she's like starting doing research on like the way that like women are educated in math because apparently like mothers were responsible for like doing these financial calculations to see if like the like these like like suitors were like suitable husbands and would be financially stable. So they would like have their own sort of math education without being literate. And it would all be like at home because he wouldn't go to school. That's cool. That's really cool. I didn't know that aspect of Roman history. I don't know. The females in the household kept track of the money. That's interesting. I didn't know that. That's really cool. It was more marriage related, not generally like Oh, like if they're like married and like the guy will take care of the financials. The woman will only do the financials if she wants to find like a good good husband. Is that how it works? Yeah, basically, like you want to you want to make sure that like the man your daughter is marrying is going to be financially stable. And that's kind of the woman's responsibility. Really? The okay, so the parents don't do the interest, like the mom's responsibility. I mean, the mom will take care of her daughter to make sure she's got the money set for her. She's not like a broke guy. I got that. That makes it that's really, really, really interesting. Okay. Today, what I do? Yeah. Um, I mean, let me think. So last time I went out clubbing. Well, I was supposed to go clubbing. I was at my friend's birthday party dinner type thing. And it was a lot of fun. And I wanted to go home after but it was his birthday. And he told me like, Hey, go to the club. I'm like, Alright, sure, I'll go. So I went. I got back at like 330 am I went to bed at four and I had a 9am. So I had to wake up early. It was bad. And then went to class. And then I went to another class and I had another class at three classes today. And then once all the classes were done, I hung on my friend's house and we just like played FIFA and then we like explore the city. It was um, it was fun. It was a good night. It was good night. Kind of wish I wish I had my Xbox. Not gonna lie. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it wasn't I don't have one either. I have to like go to people like other dorms or apartments for me to play FIFA or other video games I want to play. But um, I think I'm not having is probably better than worse, I think because I guess it encourages product productivity, in my opinion, at least. So I mean, it depends on people. I feel like I feel like if I had an Xbox, I feel like I'd have the personal discipline to not like, play it. If I have stuff to do, but I feel like other people just don't have that level of discipline. And if they see it, it's like taunting them. It's like, you know, like a fat person sees a donut or something, you know? On the level of that. So yeah, that's how I see it. It's crazy. You woke up for your 9am when you went to sleep before I did not have that discipline. Yeah. And it's weird because I'm well, no, it was a discussion section. I had to go. Or like, attendance was like really mandatory. And honestly, I'm running on like, like five hours of sleep, probably. And I'm not that tired at all. It's really bizarre. I'm not I am tired, but like, it's not really slowing me down that much. And I'm not as tired as I thought I would be. Um, so yeah, I'm just, yeah, that's it. That's all it's, um, sometimes your body just sort of, I guess, goes to its energy reserves or something, or maybe it tricks your mind into thinking that you're not tired when you really are. So your body's in pain, but your brain just sort of like, maybe mutes that mutes those signals. I don't know. But it's interesting. I think at least like you're like, I don't know, some sort of like fight or flight response, or like, you're just operating on such like little, like, bandwidth that you just, yeah, basically think you're in like a bad situation. Yeah, yeah. I like that. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe what's driving me is that I'm kind of stressed. And I'm like, constantly like, shaking my leg. Maybe that's what's driving me. Maybe that's why I'm not tired. So it's probably probably that honestly, probably is. I always think about like, being a being a hunter, and we don't have any food in the camp. And we need to go we need to kill the bison and we need to do anything to kill the bison. Yeah, that's why that's why I work best when I like before I eat. It's interesting. I like you know, actually talked about that. And ironically was on Andrew Tate. That's why when he talked about things, I'm telling you, he actually said he doesn't believe in breakfast. He thinks it's stupid. Because before you eat breakfast, you got to do something. You have to like accomplish something in your day before you earn the right to eat before you deserve. And I've actually started doing that, too. You know, if I'm hungry right now, I want to go to 711. You know, it's right next to my dorm, my hall and get a snack. But I have to figure out but this is why I'm having this conversation with you. Because I'm trying to test out this podcast audio recording setup. So I think I think it looks pretty good. I'm gonna check it after. But this is where I'll let you go. Thank you. I have another thing to I'm reading Livy's History of Rome. Okay. Is it good? Oh, you're reading in Latin? Wow. Yeah. It's, it's really interesting is the way he writes is really different from Cicero and Julius Caesar. I think I like Cicero more, but Livy has this thing where he doesn't like using words that originate in Greek. Mm hmm. Which is like, it's not super noticeable. It's sometimes like, you can tell he's trying to avoid those like grammar. Yeah, constructions. But we're reading like, the story of like Romulus and Remus and like their birth and like, their like upbringing and then the death of Remus. And then we did like the deification of Romulus. So he gives like he gives two versions of every story. He gives like the, the mythologized version that's been passed down and then like, what probably actually happened. So it's pretty good. I don't know. There's some very complicated grammar because he uses like, he says like, there's one part where he says this person, Proculius Julius said that Romulus said something else. And that makes it like, these like nested dialogues make it like really complicated to understand. Yeah, that just sounds like weird. I mean, maybe I'm not sure exactly when Livy lived. Did he live during Augustus's reign? Yeah, Augustus. So maybe it was like he was being pushed on by like, maybe Mycenaeus or something because I assume he probably was a part of that whole literary circle like he wasn't writing poems and stuff, but he was definitely involved with those other artists in the imperial court, I assume. So maybe it was like Mycenaeus's policy for him to really talk about, focus on writing, you know, Latin based things and avoiding Greek maybe. But I don't know. I don't know. That's my theory. I mean, Augustus wasn't really anti-Greek compared to like, I mean, the only really anti-Greek person was Cato the Elder. Or was it? No, it was Cato the Elder, not Cato the Younger. He's the only really anti-Greek dude in the Roman Empire. Sorry, Roman. You know what I mean? Rome. We'll put, we'll say Rome. But that's good though. That's really good. Reading Libyan Latin is, that's like, that's damn, god shit. That's intense. That's really intense. And I'm happy for you because honestly, I want to find the time to like sit down and just read a nice, a good book about history. Just a good history book, you know? And just like learn all those facts. It just to me seems like really fun. I just don't have the time. I wish I did. It's like you can't read like an ancient history book because like, like one that's written by like Romans. Because if you read it in English, it's so boring. It's got, you think it's just more, more, it's just that authenticity. No, not the, I mean, it's more authentic, obviously, reading Latin. But you just think that like. It's just, you should, if you want to read it in English, you should just read a summary. Because just like the amount of like convoluted grammar and like the way that he writes in Latin is much, it's like, I don't know, when you're translating it, like it's meaningful. But when you read it in English, it's a waste of time. Is it sort of like equivalent to like, let's say a dubbed TV show? You know what I'm talking about? Like dubbed or like, yeah, dubbed basically. It's like Spanish. Like, oh my God, what was that? Money Heist. Money Heist. If it's dubbed in English over the Spanish. I don't think it's that bad. I think maybe like a little bit. It's just like the grammatical constructions in Latin are so antiquated. Like even like in modern Spanish versus modern English people, like grammatically, people don't use like really complex sentence structures, like nested clauses and stuff. But in Latin, you kind of do that a lot. That's kind of, you try to mix your sentence to like four or five lines long, which doesn't translate well. It's interesting though, because, I mean, you guys are basically learning the posh version of Latin. You're not learning what the lower classes spoke, what the soldiers spoke. I'm curious to see if there's any like actual linguistic evidence as like, I mean, I know vulgar Latin was what evolved when, you know, Rome fell or like went around just before Rome fell or like after when all the barbarians came in. But I was curious, like during the height of the empire, Pax Romana and whatnot, do you know if there was any like evidence of like how the common people spoke? Like their sort of like form of Latin, their slang and all that. Is there evidence? Aside from like, I'm sure there's evidence of graffiti, but is there like literary evidence? So during the empire, I'm less sure. I think if you read plays, I mean, even the playwrights, they're very posh, like Seneca. But I think particularly, do you know who Plautus and Terence are? Like these are from Playwrights on the Road. I think Plautus did Golden Ass, right? Was that him? No, that's Apuleius. Apuleius did Golden Ass. Okay. Plautus wrote Milus Gloriosus. And Terence wrote Eotan Timoromenos. Terence, I read a lot of last year in my Latin class, and he was actually an African slave and he was freed. So he learned Latin as like a third language, basically after Greek and whatever his native language was, probably some like Phoenician tongue. But he learned it as a foreigner and he like was a lower class guy for most of his life, even though he was around posh people. But when you write so much dialogue, it ends up becoming much more conversational than like the upper class. With upper class, people are like talking or speaking. But his plays and Plautus's plays are almost all adaptations of dramas by Menander, who's a Greek lyric. So sometimes it's hard to be sure how faithful the like adaptations are because there's only one surviving play by Menander. So only like all we know comes from Plautus and Terence. But I think they're the best way of looking at how people just talked conversationally during their public. Also, people had accents. They sounded like almost French. Really? If you pronounce Latin words with like a very subtle French accent, I think that's considered pretty like that's like what people talk like in the Republic. Damn, I have no idea. In the Republic, but it must have evolved, obviously, in the Empire. I remember I watched some video about how Rome itself, the city, went through a bunch of like genetic change, like during like the height of the Empire, like Rome had a million people, like all these people came from like the East and stuff. And so like, yeah, the people became like less and less sort of like Italian and more and more like, you know, Eastern, like whatever you want to say, Greek, Syrian, whatever, it became a whole melting pot, sort of like America is. I'm going to rehash that. I don't know why Prahlad called me a dumbass for saying how Rome is like not like America, even though there are clear, clear, clear, clear similarities. You got to like back me up on this. There are a lot of similarities between Rome and America, I think, at least. And America was built in Rome's image. Yeah, right. Like, I mean, the founding fathers, I mean, they read up on Polybius. Polybius was like, you know, he was Greek, but he wrote about the rise of Rome, you know, and Polybius talked about a constitution that is sort of we took some inspiration from. And Madison read up a ton on the Roman Republic and the Greek democracies, you know, and you're totally right with image. I mean, you can see with all the monuments and stuff. And just, I mean, yeah, other things, too. You're right. And from the beginning, and then we still follow it eerily in a way, you know, both sort of like a rise to some extent, the origin, too, because Rome, if you follow the Aeneid, right, you know, founded by refugees. We were also founded by refugees, the pilgrims and, you know, and then sort of like the breads and circuses that we see right now, you know, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce in the Super Bowl, that's lowkey breads and circuses. Yeah. And then like, just like the corruption, we have that with the politicians. And we have like Trump, who's lowkey a little bit like Caesar. And then, you know, our military is super powerful, and we value it a lot. Just a lot of a lot of other things, too. But yeah, it's pretty sweet. Yeah, I was. My professor is talking about how, like, she thought it was really annoying when people compared, like, the current like political climate to like the late Roman Republic, because it's so much worse than like, back then, like, they literally struggled to get a quorum of senators because they all kept getting assassinated. So I feel like that's a little bit of an exaggeration. Yeah, I do see like, the populism of Trump, like, certainly marrying Caesar, but I think there's, we don't really have a Cicero. Oh, yeah, I agree. I don't some people think that we're like, falling and collapsing, like the Empire and Republican one. And I don't think it's that bad. We're just like, sort of like an era of like, mid, I would say, like, we're not suffering. And we're not in a golden age. We're just in an era of like mid. But at the same time, a lot of countries aren't doing that well, either. Like China's not doing that well, Russia's not doing that well. So you have to like, look at it, you know, from a relative perspective. So I mean, yeah. All right, man. Thank you so much. Great chat. I appreciate you for helping me out figuring. I just want to see this recording app work. And I think it did work. Yeah, dude, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, we're recording tomorrow. And then I got it. I got to edit it and probably do some other things too. I think I got to like also like make YouTube shorts and shit as well, like advertise it and put posts on Instagram, but it's a full episode. Shit, we got to figure out when to post that too. We got to make it consistent. Oh, damn. I'll think about that. You gave me the dual. Thank you. You've given me something to think about. I appreciate that. Thank you. No problem. Good night, man. Thank you. Baby, what you wishing for?