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The host Bob together with Natasha discuss the ongoing argumentative events in America, focusing on ICE and recent raids. Bob, having lived in California, shares insights on illegal immigration and ICE operations. He mentions the historical context of deportations and the separation between local law enforcement and immigration. Bob also shares a personal story about someone he knew who was unexpectedly deported despite being a long-time resident. The discussion highlights the complexities and impacts of ICE activities on individuals and communities. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Better You, Better Life. On this morning's episode, I am here with lovely Bob and Natasha. And today we're going to cover some very, very argumentative events going on in America. In particular, we'll cover ICE and the recent raids. We'll talk a little bit about this and that. This and then that. Okay, Bob, so this week we've seen a lot of detrimental things going on, particularly in California, Los Angeles in particular. We've seen breakouts in New York as well, and some major cities across America. To anyone who doesn't really understand what's going on, do you want to give us a little insight, Bob? You mean just the overall integration? Yeah, overall what's going on with ICE, what is ICE, what is causing these quote-unquote pro-should we say, friendly protests? The mostly peaceful protests. The mostly peaceful protests. Yeah. I think to really talk about it, you have to back up just a little bit. I've lived in California my whole life, and California has always had a decent amount of illegal immigration. I've worked alongside folks. I've worked with people. It's just day-to-day life. It's just been a normal thing. There's always been ICE. There's always been deportations. If you go back and look at prior presidents, millions of people were deported over the turn of the century. Weren't you once upon a time an officer yourself, so you've got a little more insight on this level? Yeah. I spent time working down the street as a police officer, but that was one of the interesting things is up until now, again, going back decades and decades, police officers never had any interaction. As a police officer, if you pull over a contact or even arrest someone, you weren't allowed to check their immigration status. Even if you happen to know their immigration status, you weren't allowed to notify ICE. The reason for that is pretty simple. You'll see a lot of ... There's just as much crime that happens within the illegal immigrant populations. You'll have domestic violence. You'll have all these different things. Say a man is beating his wife in her house and she's not legal. If the police and ICE are working together, she'll just sit there and get beat up and never call the police because she'll get deported. There was always a strong separation between local law enforcement and immigration. My point is this has always been operating. This has been going on forever, as long as I've been around. I even have a story. Everyone's talking about the shocking people that were deported. I had an employee that worked for me that was a citizen, lived in this country for, I don't know, 25 years. I had kids born and raised here. I raised them. Her husband was ...