BiB S1E6

Hey guys, it's Matt and Jordan with Brothers in Vestar, again. We just finished watching the last two episodes of Agatha's Darkness, and we can start kind of divulging into that a little bit. Give us some spoilers. Yeah, obviously, as I said before, if you haven't finished the season, then obviously don't listen to most of this podcast. It'll be a relatively quick one this week, but I thought it was a very interesting last two episodes. I didn't see it turning out the way it did. With what? Lady Death? No, with Agatha dying. Yeah, so I don't, I haven't followed or listened to it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. 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So, Daredevil was in 2015, so Arrow came out in 2012. So, Arrow kind of kick-started a lot of that. Oh, yeah. It tried to grind you. Because it wasn't so bad. It's not for television, but it started, and then Daredevil took it up a notch from there, and then I think Titans took it up even more a notch from there, and then you start getting into The Boys and Peacemaker. Those shows are even more tough, like extreme. Well, for me, Arrow, when I first watched it, when it first came out, and I didn't really get too much into it until I re-watched it as an adult. I was young, so one of the main reasons I watched it was for Willa Holland, or the girl who played Thea. What I forgot to realize is that... Willa Holland does play Thea. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was thinking, too, of Felicity Smoak. Felicity Smoak. I don't really care about Felicity. Black Canary, Katie Cassidy. Yeah, Katie Cassidy, too. But at the same time, I'm a huge Kingdom Hearts nerd, and Willa Holland's voice is a major character in the series called Aqua, and I never put the two pieces together until I just finished watching an episode, and I'm like, ah, Kingdom Hearts 3 came out. I'm going to play that. Wait a minute. They sound the same. Like, one of those things. You find out one of your favorite actors or characters is also... Like, a soap opera my mom used to watch all the time. General Hospital. As a kid, one of the guys named Jason, he's the voice actor for Cloud Stripes in Final Fantasy, and you're like, never make those connections. There's a lot of voice actors and stuff. And then, obviously, Seth Green is Howard the Duck. I don't think he's ever going to come back for a permanent role. I mean, Seth Green as Howard the Duck? Yes, but something... With Howard the Duck? Yeah. A cameo or something? He might be a part of the New Guardians of the Galaxy. Is Cosmo a rocket? I don't think... Yeah, Groom. Thor's daughter. What was her? Love. Love? Yeah. And... Well, Star-Lord. Well, Star-Lord. Jerome Jackson isn't in it anymore. The director's brother. Oh, Gun. Yeah. Sean Gun. What's his name, what's his name? Sean Gun. No, but what's his... Crow? I'm brain farting. You can just say it. I'm just... Skull? Skull? Kraglin. Kraglin! Yeah, Kraglin. No taser face? No taser face. That was like my favorite part of the second movie. Just one day I wake up, I don't want to be tasered. That whole bit too, like where they're in the jail cell with Yondu and Rocket, and they're getting grouped to try and get the headpiece, and he keeps coming back with it. It's about time they have a jar of random stuff. Oh, man. No. I think Guardians changed the mood and the shit of the movies, because before that, Thor 1 was kind of still a serious toned movie, and then once Avengers came out, Guardians came out, and then Guardians had a super lighter tone to it. It had to, because it was such an unknown... So they took Iron Man. Iron Man wasn't that known, and that kind of gave him an edgy feel. I mean, he was very known. Not as known as he is now. He was still... You had Spider-Man, all of them up here, and you had Iron Man. So they kind of gave an edgier tone, so I think with Guardians of the Galaxy, I don't know any old stuff of it, so I think they had to make it super just entertaining to get people to like it. I mean, I like the second one. Like Groot? I'm Groot. I'm Groot. No, not that one. Like Sylvester Stallone in the second Guardians movie, him and his crew technically were in something a long time ago, and I think they were, in the comics originally, the original Guardians of the Galaxy, they just weren't called that, and Yondu was part of that crew, and then they just changed up the story a little bit, or something along the lines of that. So they do callbacks like that, but unless you're really old and you read the comics... Well, and Star-Lord had like a Nova core mask and everything. Yeah. Not his little retractable mask. Yeah, I think a lot of that, and there's stuff they have to change through that from comics to live action. They're waiting for Nova Prime. Wait, just Nova? Like Nova, yeah. I thought they were going to do like a show or something at one time, but I haven't, it hasn't done anything, but they need Nova. Isn't that Spider-Man TV show? Yeah, White Tiger, him, Iron Fist. I think they opted to not do Nova, and just do the Nova core. I know, but still, Nova's like part of the Nova core. Right, but he's like the main guy. Kind of like Green Lantern is part of the Lantern core, but everybody knows who Green Lantern is, so you got like six different... You know what they should do? They're also not the show for the Lantern. What they should do is a gag, and I would totally be down to this. If they get John C. Reilly, because he's like the only Nova core member you really see the most in the Guardians, I would just have him be Nova. Glenn Close is kind of old. I don't care if he plays Nova, because she's kind of old. Glenn Close is more like... Maybe Richard Rider's the main Nova. Right, yeah. What if that's Richard Rider? You got John C. Reilly. I think every time something came out, like Captain Marvel, and then with Adam Warlock, everyone's like, oh, Nova's going to be... He's waiting for Nova to show up, and he just never showed up. You figure it would show up in the Marvels, at least. One of those movies. A lot of people didn't like that movie, Hot Take. I thoroughly enjoyed it, especially with the X-Men crossover at the end, with Beast and... I don't know what... Binary. Binary's mom. Her name's Binary. Binary. Oh, that's a mutant named Binary. Yeah, and then what is her daughter's name? I forgot. Like her superhero name? Because you have Ms. Marvel, Captain Marvel, and then... I forget what her... I feel terrible. Because she's still technically Binary, but it's someone else, and... So you have... She is... Wow, she's down the list. That's terrible. Proton. Proton. Yeah, Proton. There's something with the same things. Yeah, I mean, I didn't mind that movie. It's just... There's a lot of movies lately that just aren't... There are no original Avengers. I mean, the whole first... I don't know. I didn't like Captain Marvel either, the movie, the first one. Yeah, it was a bit backstory for, like, Nick Fury and all that stuff, and even Captain Marvel. The only thing is, it's just kind of like... It was only annoying because they threw her in kind of... It seems like they threw her in kind of last minute, because they're like, ah, here's the cameo at the end of this movie, and then we're going to rush out this movie so she can show up in Endgame or Infinity War. It's like, you know... Then they kind of, like, accidentally break the fourth wall, because at one point in Endgame or Infinity War, I forgot which one. It's Endgame, I think. Tony Stark's like, where were you this whole time? That's what we're all wondering. Like, where were you at this whole time? All this stuff going down. Like, if you're this powerful, like, in retrospect... It's because Nick Fury didn't reach out to her. That's also true. I don't care what y'all say. I'm not even going to reach out to my secret weapon. Yeah, like, that's on his end, too. It's like, where's the line drawn? It's called plot, okay? It's plot. That's the worst part of the plot of Marvel Universe. Just kind of take a filler and figure it all out. It's all good. Like, what kind of stuff makes sense? Because in the first Black Panther, like, everything you see in the movie, everything you see in Infinity War, everything you see in Endgame, everything you see in Infinity War, like, the Wakanda stuff makes sense. Because in the first Black Panther, like, everything is secluded to Wakanda. So, like, there's, of course, there's going to be no outside sources except for Martin... Martin Sheen? Martin Short. Great actor, by the way. Love that guy. But, like, all that stuff is really cool. And I'm really glad they brought him back in, uh... I think he was in Falcon and Wonder Soldier. No, he was in, um... Ah, the one with... Secret Invasion. Secret Invasion? Oh, yeah, Secret Invasion. And then also, uh... Oh, what was I just talking about? Secret Invasion. Martin Short. I forgot. There's another show that I really, really... Yeah. Sorry. I really like... Oh, the wives are home. Um... Baron Demo. Excellent. And Falcon and Wonder Soldier. Like, at first, I was like, ah, this guy? And then they instantly put the script together. I don't know if there's any... Yeah, he's going to be in the Thunderbolts movie. He's got to be. Thunderbolts? So he's going to be in Captain America... Brave New World. Or New World Order. I forget. It was one and it changed. I think it's Brave New World. Um... Yeah, so is he going to be in that? He's just kind of been kicked to the side. I don't care. Well, it's like him and then, um... Agent 13, she's kind of been kicked to the side after the whole... You're talking about Ghost? No, Agent 13. The blonde from... That was Captain America's neighbor. Sharing partner? Yeah. Yeah. He's kind of been kicked to the side. Yeah, they're not bringing her back. They set up all this stuff and now they're like, eh, we're going to do something else. Yeah, because they sent him back to the time when he got to be with Peggy. Yeah, but she's still... She showed up in Falcon and Wonder Soldier. And now it's just like she's gone. She was like the triple agent. Well, it's always Falcon and Wonder Soldier. Ever since the show, they haven't shown up at all. Well, Falcon's coming in as new Captain America because he is new Captain America. And then the new Falcon's coming in. And Wonder Soldier, Bucky Barnes, he's going to be in Thunderbolts. But these other two, we don't know. That's the problem with them getting too expansive is they have these other characters and now it's like, well, what are they doing? They've got to juggle in other characters from other theories. Bringing in all this other... I think that's kind of why they're starting to bring it back in from the multiverse. It's because they kind of went out too far. And now it's, hey, let's bring it back in and get all these characters. I do like how they've been redirecting these movies to specifically do that. Between Bokeh Season 2 where they create the ultimate timeline and then Deadpool 2 where it's like... Deadpool 3. Deadpool 3, sorry. All these other timelines. Let's just stop with the multiverse. This is over after Infinity War. Let's just not do it anymore. Come on. Very bad point. And then, like, I was like, dude, like, I mean, Blade. Blade's kind of being kicked to the side again already. Well, it keeps getting pushed back because I don't know what's going on with Marshall Ali. I'm telling you, Wesley Snipes, he's the only Blade. There will only ever be one Blade. They need to bring back Chris Evans as the Human Torch. Unpopular opinion. I mean, Deadpool will be re-streaming in a couple weeks on Disney+. Very excited for that. And I think Fantastic Four's coming out. Is that coming out? I didn't even, what, the movie? Yeah. Like, the actual, like, Pedro Pascal? Yeah. No, it's probably coming out next month. No, next year. First Steps is what it's called. Yeah. July 25th. 2025? Yeah. That's coming up soon. I'll be back. Thunderbolts with an asterisk. Oh, because that's part of the title, Thunderbolts. May 2nd. I will be home for that. What about Captain America? That's February, I think. I will miss that. That is unfortunate. February 14th is Valentine's Day. Hmm. So, if you want to take your girlfriend or boyfriend on a wonderful date, go see that movie. Go see Brave New World. BMW with Red Hulk. Red Hulk. Thaddeus Thunderbolt Ra. Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford. Han Solo. Seth Rollins is in it. The only thing I'm really excited for, really, is Giancarlo Esposito. Between him, being in Moss Gideon, and then also being... He's a great villain. Gus. Yeah, he's great as a villain in Breaking Bad. 100%. He takes those roles and he just gets them and knows what to do. Yeah. But a lot to be excited for. Not much exciting things going on currently. I mean, there's stuff coming out, but like I said, on the Star Wars side, it's definitely We need more. We're trying to... I guess we'll read some books, too. Get us some of the books that are... Like read a Soko novel. Just kind of... Once you're done reading it, I got to read it. I guess you're going to read it. I'm not buying you a book and letting you read it. Look, man, until we can actually afford... There's like six bucks. That's six bucks too much. No, you just bought a Lego set. What I'm going to do for free. Okay, that's irrelevant. That's a part of my job. Who's reading? I am going to watch Unexpected Journey, because I've never watched the Hobbit movies before. So I did get a text message, though. And I guess it's time to put the dogs away. We got to wrap things up. So thank you guys for joining us. We'll be back in a week or two. Pending, question mark, asterisk. You're going to be out of town in a week. We'll figure it out. We'll get something new going. And if you like us, leave us a review. Hit us up anywhere. If you've got any questions, then we appreciate everyone tuning in. Thank you. See you.