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S2E22 - Steve Mayhew

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In this podcast episode, the hosts, Lee Smith and Rhys Veal, catch up with each other after a long break. They discuss various topics, including Rhys' son's first football match, which was a bit overwhelming for him, and Rhys' upcoming party that he's organizing. They also talk about a charity event being organized by Chris Turton and his friends, where they will be walking to all the Premiership and Football League grounds in London to raise money for Kit Aid. The hosts also interview their guest, Steve Mayhew, who talks about his football journey, starting from a young age and playing for Rose Hill and later signing for Oxford. He mentions some of the successful players who came through the ranks at Rose Hill. Overall, it's a casual and informative conversation about local football and upcoming events. Welcome back to Pick That Out, your Oxfordshire football podcast, here every week, or almost every week, interviewing a local legend. My name's Lee Smith, and as always, I'm joined by my trusty co-host, Mr. Rhys Veal. How are you, son? Again, not as always, because I've been away for a long time, but we're back. When did I last see you? 1997? Yeah, I'm about eight stone. How have you been since I last saw you? Yeah, good, mate, good. I've had a couple of huge milestones in my life. What's happened? Rugby for his first game of football. Live match? Live match. How did it go? He got to half-time on his own. Luckily, my mum lives near the camp. Is it a bit noisy for him? Yeah, it was reddit as well, so it was a bit aggressive. Ah, okay, a bit of a feisty one for a five-year-old. Yeah, especially when they scored and what not. He went to half-time, but I got to stay, so that was good. Excellent. And then his birthday as well. We went to Rugby's birthday. Shall we talk about the date of his party? Yeah, it's Sunday, final day. Didn't realise it at the time. But, well, we did. We screwed up, didn't we? Five o'clock, kick-off of the cup. I always thought, perfect, do the party straight to the pub. In my opinion, two till four on final day is cutting it fine. It's bad planning. And they moved it to three o'clock, so it was out of my control. So you're not even going to watch the cup? There'll be a laptop there, hooked up to the internet. I've substituted myself and my missus. I'm the naughty guy there. So I had a little road trip up to... Were you supposed to come to UAE? I went up to Liverpool with some local legends in the fore. It was Simon Grosvenor's birthday, 50th, and we went up, Gary Trinder, Oli Bateman, Lee Webster, a few up there, Stu Perfume Palmer. He was there as well. He was squashed in the world's smallest car. If you'd have been there, it would have been unbelievable. What was that? Big Mercedes. It was tied with four of us, really. You with your big pants in the back between me and Webster would have been unbelievable. But there were some great performances by the lads up there. Nothing I can repeat here, but some very good performances from some of the lads up there. I'm sorry. Best to say, when Gary Trinder comes on, Oli, we'll talk about Gary Trinder's performance. I would have said none of the masses more difficult than that. Good work. In a moment, we'll go on to our charity section, because there's a little thing I want to talk about. There's a party going on, isn't there? Yes, there is. This Saturday. This Saturday. As you're listening now, this Saturday, there's a party going on in Vista. It's the longest party I've ever known, which is 90s and 2000s house music, which yours truly has decided to put on. You haven't posted about it on Facebook yet? No, I'm going to start doing that soon. Mate, you've got to try and get three people in there. Are you coming? Yeah, I'll probably be there. Mate is coming. Cut off. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Basically, since I've been in Vista, there's not been a good house music night. I'm at the point where if you can't find what you want, do it yourself. Hopefully, we'll get enough people through the door. We've got some brilliant DJs. Anyway, let's move on to our charity section. Local legend in the Aylesbury area, West Oxfordshire area, is a gentleman called Chris Turton, who was my old chairman at Great Milton Football Club way back in the day. Himself and a chap called James Ritchings and Jaden Wilkins, they are doing a charity event for the charity Kit Aid, and they are going to be walking to all of the Premiership and Football League grounds in London over three days. I reckon that's like 14,000. What a good guess! What a good guess! What was your guess in rehearsal? I think they've got a cover around 65 miles in three days. That's really good going. Kit Aid is a charity that recycles your once-loved football kit and distributes it to underprivileged children and adults in some of the world's poorest countries. We'll post the links. They're just giving links to our socials. If you want to donate, feel free. If you have any old football kits sitting around, then feel free to donate them as well. Nice. Good work. Anything you want to go over before we end? Do you want to go over the week this week after three weeks off? No, I didn't. I don't know how you've been, mate. I think I just covered it. Again, thanks for asking. I just covered it. I went to Liverpool, and I've got a party starting, so I'm fine. So you're happy, then? I'm happy as Larry, buddy. Yeah, happy as Larry. Cool, fine and dandy. So let's move on to our illustrious guest. I'm all the way here. He's someone we've both known for quite a while, isn't he? Well, I've known Steve a lot when we were a lot skinnier and younger. You were half a man. I was about 28. So I've known Steve a long time. So moving without further ado, we have former Rosewood boys, Oxford City, Tame United, Aberdeen Town, Brackett Town, Tame United, and Castleton Town legend, Mr. Steve Mayhew. Welcome to the show, Steve. How are you? Great, thanks. Yes, it's a pleasure to come on. Lovely. When you first asked me to come on, obviously, do you remember the reply? I remember the reply, OK. You gave me a cup of pie. Didn't want to take long enough, did you? No, because I didn't know who you were, so I listened to a couple of your podcasts and I was impressed. And a couple of the lads had come on and I listened to it and I thought, yeah, that's going to be... We've heard that quite a lot. It's good to hear. It's good to hear. It's good to hear from your peers, isn't it? A new sort of lad that you've grown up with and you think, oh, I can add a few stories to that. And what's good about it, as well, is that it's low-key. You guys do a good job. It's nice. It's a bit of a last-minute series. And a lot of the players who've been on are favourable players against. You can relate to it. It's very good. We often say when we're talking about the podcast is one of the reasons for its somewhat success is the fact it's local. That's also one of the reasons it won't ever get too big, is because it's local. But that's kind of what makes it what it is, because most people listen. So, like, for example, they've got a new guest, and they listen to the show, and they're like, oh, I know them, I know them. They were mentioned, I know that guest. And it starts to spread, so it's sort of spreading organically. Because Oxford, the Oxfordshire football scene, is such a small place, really, isn't it? It is, yeah, really. And everyone knows everybody and whatnot, so I think that's why people are quite interested in the pod. Excellent. So let's do what we always do, and let's go right back to the start. How did you start playing football? Yeah, so my parents moved to Llandudni, at least, the reservation is, of course. And I was four years old when I moved there. My first junior school was over me at school, and it was, you know, the adults always ate with mine, so we just kicked them all around, really. And back in those days, I mean, a lot of you guys, I mean, you didn't have rich parents or anything, and you were lucky. For Christmas, you got a track suit and a football. That was it, basically. So, I mean, and, you know, we were never indoors. We was always playing out, you know. And I think that was a really good trait, really, back in those days, because all the kids did it, you know, and that's why I think there's so many good players in my area coming through. So, yeah, so I started on, you know, I started playing football in Llandudni School, and then left there around about 11. But when I was nine, they said, well, go and join Oxford Rugby. Okay. Right, you know, I sat in this club, you know, and, yeah, so I joined for them. The only problem was we were nine, and it was under 11s. Oh, right. Right, and to be fair, we turned up for a few weeks, and we were getting battered. Did your team run the nine? No, no, for instance, at the time, it was me and two other lads who signed for them. Yeah. The trouble is, we were playing with kids at 11. We were only nine. Yeah. And at that age, I was gone. And, you know, we were just getting battered, and we weren't really getting a look in. And after two or three weeks, the manager came up and said, he said, I don't think this is working out for you boys. And we were disappointed, but he said, I'll tell you what, I know somebody at Rose Hill. Yeah. Tony Ayres at Rose Hill. They've got a London high side there. If you like it, we'll introduce you, and we'll go and play it there. And to be honest, that's where it all started. Okay. And to be honest, out of all the players, like mentors, when you look back on your career, Tony Ayres was the one. Okay. Right, because I signed Rose Hill at nine years old, and I ended up playing there right up to the time of 15 when I signed for Oxford. Wow, okay. And that's us, put together, we were so successful, it was unbelievable. Some of the players that came through from Rose Hill, four or five of that team won a signed pro contract. Go on, talk us through those. Yeah, so, so really, when you look at it, we, in the league, trouble is, we were such a good side, you didn't get many hard games. Yeah. There was a couple of teams in the league that gave you a game, but the rest of it was too easy. Yeah. And we had players like Kevin Dempsey, Jeff Pratt, they were very popular. We had a guy called Trevor Evans, I don't know if you know him, you probably wouldn't know him because he's my, but he was a left footed player and QPR was his side number 14. When, forever, that's when I signed for Oxford, Oxford. Yeah. He did one side for Oxford, he could have got a place, QPR won the Premier League side. Okay, yeah. Yeah, so we had a lot of good players that came through the ranks, really. So yeah, so we played there for six seasons, and, you know, just won everything, really. And, um, in the end, at the end of the season, you know, I don't know when you boys played, do you know when you played boys football, there was always six-a-sides, five-a-sides? Yeah. During the summer. Summer, that's it. Well, yeah, and we used to play all round the Oxfordshire area and there was nobody in that age group that could give you a game. We had two sides, A and B side, they were both as good as each other. Yeah. It was never in a final run. Oh, he's in a final run. I knew one team would get there and one wouldn't, you know. Yeah. And in the end, you'd get to a stage where they're happy to get a game against the undersides in the six-a-sides to make it interesting. That's how good the side was. Yeah, so I ended up playing there five or six seasons, but in between times, um, obviously boys came along. Yeah. And at 13, um, obviously, do you know, I played for Oxford boys in the 14s, but at 13, Fred Ford, you must have heard of Fred Ford, he was the Chief Scout, Chief Scout Officer at the time. I think he's known some up before, yeah. Um, he signed me at 13 by a school board for us and he came round to our house at Blackburn Leeds and honestly, at 13 years old, you know, Oxford United, suddenly you're on a school board contract and honestly, you just feel, you know, top of the world. Honestly, and then, of course, the word gets around, you go to school. Is that, sorry, obviously, we'll come on to that, we know you're a goalie, was that, as a goalie, as a goalie? Yeah, I was number nine, you know, playing around, but I think it put me in good stead actually because I always liked playing on pitch but I stayed in goal and, you know, when the back pass rule changed, you know, it started, it's not like it is today, but it was just coming in when I, when I was playing, you know, because you used to be able to pick the ball up on a back pass, then they changed it and you couldn't pick it up so you had to, when the ball was not back to you, you had to get it and if you're playing on pitch, you know, and I coach it, you know, I coach my grandson now, I coach the kids now because the first thing I do to them, I'll put them through the drills and everything in a session, but then half a session I'll say to my physical keepers there, and they use it too, the first one plays on pitch and just rotate it around because it's important to get keepers playing now, especially in this day and age, if you can't play, if you can't play as a keeper with your feet, you've got no chance. Yeah, that's why I was the best Kingston vice-president, I loved it, and that was from 13 to 15, but in between that as well, so I'm for Oxford Boys under 14's and then when you got into Oxford Boys under 15's, and I've actually got a picture there and I'll show you later, that's Oxford Boys under 15's side, you're playing what they call the English School Trophy, it's a nationwide, you know, tournament, and we played under a guy called Mike Hammett and oh, he's another legend in, you know, in Liverpool, yeah. The problem we had, the year before that, Oxford Boys got to the final, and that was, oh, and that was players like Andy Kingston, Phil Edgston, Malcolm McIntosh, Kitsie Dice, all them, and basically they, I went to watch it at the Old Manor Ground the second time I played Liverpool Boys, there was 14,000 there, honestly, 14,000 at the Old Manor Ground, watching that, and they lost it at Man City's ground, at Main Road, so we had to try and follow that, and anyway, we got to the last 16, and we ended up going out to East London Boys, and the reason I'm mentioning it is, I don't want to feel like I'm blowing the trumpet here, but it was just one game I'll always remember, we went up to Leighton Audience Ground, played East London Boys, and there are two players, a guy called David and a guy called James, and they went and signed for Chelsea, and when they left that, they signed for Pro Fours, and I even played against them, and then they moved to Palace, and I actually played against them when they came to Palace, but anyway, it beats 2-0, but it was one game I'll remember, so that was the opposite boys side of it, and then from there, it was like at 15, they've got to decide whether they're signing you on or apprentice, but back in the day, obviously we were in the old second division, and Mick Brown was the manager, do you remember Mick Brown? He was for Atkinson's for Man United, and then they signed them all, because you don't make any sense of them on the mat, you've already done a two year apprenticeship if you like, but the year when it came for me to sign an apprentice, obviously got relegated that year, they got relegated to the old second division, the third division, Mick Brown got sacked, they brought in John Doyle, the only two, but it wasn't all bad, because what they said to me was, we're not going to sign you on as an apprentice, but what we'll do is give you a two year non-contract form, I don't know if you guys were aware of what that entails, but basically what it does is it gives you a two year non-contract form, and then you get a three year non-contract form, and then you get a three year non-contract form, and then you get a three year non-contract form, and then you get a three year non-contract form, and then you get a three year non-contract form, and then you get a three year non-contract form, and 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