Check On Your Strong Friends 2025

The transcription is a part of an interview with Christopher Phillips, an award-winning filmmaker. The interviewer asks him some light and fun questions to get to know him better. They discuss surprising facts about Christopher, such as him never smoking, drinking, or cursing. They also discuss his love for kids, his sense of humor, and his love for animals. The interviewer then asks Christopher about his favorite song, but he struggles to choose just one. Finally, they discuss movies that have made Christopher cry, but he admits that he doesn't cry very often. All right, welcome back to check on your Shawn Francis's part two of our interview with the Christopher Phillips. The award winning filmmaker has graciously agreed to after being kidnapped and not knowing where he was being taken to sit down and have an interview with me. He is an amazing and very profound individual. If you have not had a chance to listen to part one, I advise you to go back and listen to part one. That way you get the history on who he is, what he stands for and the amazing contributions that he has made to society. But we're going to go in the part two because we're going to have some fun. And I know that there are a lot of people who follow you that are probably interested into knowing a little bit more about you as a man outside of, you know, being the superhero, social justice advocate and consummate professional that you are. Um, you got a lot of fans. I don't. I'm an observer and I see a lot of the feedback that you get. So I feel like it's my duty to make sure to ask the questions that the people want to hear. Most likely a lot of the women who follow you may want to hear. Oh my God. We're going to have some fun. I'm going to start off light. Oh, start off light. I can't wait for this first question because I'm like, that's going to be light. No, seriously. We're going to just start off light. I'm going to ask you a couple of rapid fire questions. Some of these I may have asked you in the past before, but again, that was all pre-interview work when you didn't even know it was pre-interview work. Had some conversations. I don't know. I'm like, but I'm ready for it. All right. So I'm going to start question number one. What is something about you that might surprise people? Let me see. What did the survey say? Um, I think, um, I mean, like, if I'm going to go easy, I've never smoked. I never drank before. And I don't cuss. Maybe. You've never like even tried, like never sampled. Never. Nope. Nope. I've got, I've got a vodka and whiskey at the house now because my friend put it in a gift bag. I'm like, what I'm going to do with these? So they just going to sit there. They should. Because I don't think like, I mean, I have tried before. I'd make a choice, a conscious choice not to drink or smoke, but I have tried before and I don't think you would like vodka or whiskey. No, I think it's something, something, something that what people would be surprised about. You said, um, I don't know. Cause I feel like people already know who I am a little bit. Okay. So say if you start engaging with people on a more personal level and you have conversations with them and they're like, oh my gosh, I would have never thought that. Or I can't believe you, you know, once they get to know you on a deeper level. Hmm. Yeah. Cause I'm not yet. And I'm trying to stick on personal. Cause I think some people get their most surprised when the professional stuff, but on personal, that might be one thing. Um, maybe, I don't know. Maybe. Okay. If you didn't know me, you might be surprised that I really love kids. Okay. Um, if you didn't know me, um, smoking, drinking, um, if you didn't know me, I think you would be surprised at maybe how slapstick I can be. Maybe like I can be really like, not silly, like in an ignorant way, but I love to laugh. I'll be cracking up and I bring you in on it too. You know, maybe they'd be so surprised at that. It just depends. But then I feel like I always present myself as a very approachable person. Cause I'm not afraid to smile and laugh or anything like that. You know what? I didn't know. I didn't know you were such a great person with animals. Oh yeah. That's probably a great one. Yeah. That's probably a great one. Yeah. I love animals like that. That would really mess you up. Yeah. Yeah. That would really mess somebody up. Like if they see me around pets, I just like a change up. Well, I don't change up. It's just a whole visceral different reaction. So yeah, that probably would be it. Okay. So now I'm going to ask you a question that you're not going to like. I need to know. I need you to narrow it down. I need you to give me a favorite song. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. A song? Yes. I know you love music, but I need you to give me a song. Do you want to experiment? What? Come on. You know, this is not cool. I'm already thinking, okay, John, this is super hard for people. So not just that I drew music before film, like I love music. Yeah. You're a huge fan. Even sometimes the way I edit, like people don't even know this. Like a lot of traditional people, sometimes I have to hear the music first sometimes. Like it's crazy because the music tells the story for me. You know what? I don't know if I can't do a favorite. Can I tell you a couple that come to mind? Yes. Give me a couple. Sheesh. So messed up. So anything Whitney Houston. The Voice. The Voice. Yes. She's like probably one of my favorite singers, if not my favorite. Luther is probably one of my favorite male singers. It's not my favorite. Shout out to Luther. The documentary on CNN today, right now as we speak, actually. I would say, so a song that comes to mind is John Williams, Luke and Leia. That's a score from The Return of the Jedi. Yeah. There's so many songs by Jay Z come to mind that I love, but Never Change and my first song, The Ninth Wonder Remix. That comes to mind. R&B wise, like I'm talking about like contemporary. You Can't Go Wrong With Beauty by Dru Hill. I love that song. Shout out to Nokia. I love that song. Nokia, man. He's wild. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he So, I mean, um, Gustav Holst is a composer I love. Um, and there's so many songs. That's all I remember. You can have us out here Googling. I know. I know. Um. But yeah, Beauty, I'll go with Beauty. Beauty's a great woman. I love, um, not only Beauty, but I love the remix of Beauty as well. And that's hard for me because a lot of times if I like the original, I'm like, don't mess with it. But I, I equally appreciate the remix of Beauty as well. I love, um, yeah, I, I, you know, I love film scores to the T. Um, that, that, I mean, John Williams is probably one of my favorite composers. Um, one of my young ones is Ludwig Gorganson. Um, but I mean, but yeah, so that's, I could go on for days about music, but yeah, that's, oh my gosh. I was surprised you didn't though. I mean, I still didn't choose one. You still didn't choose one, but I got you a lot closer than normal because normally you're like, I love music so much, I can't do this. Yeah. I mean, it's like, if I'm, and it depends on the mood that I'm in. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, I love a good like hip hop intro. Like there's certain hip hop, like records that, that are amazing intros that I love. Um, like the Rulers Back from Jay Z's like Blueprint. That is a strong intro. Meek Mill's Dreams and Nightmares intro. Yeah. That's a crazy one. That's definitely a great one. But anyway, I could go on for days. I'm sorry. Okay. Next question is, what's the last movie you watched that made you cry? Here's the crazy thing about me. I can't remember crying for anything in a long time. Really? That's a great thing. It can be a bad thing. I mean, I feel like it's a good, you know, here's the crazy thing about me that people that, that know or have been interviewed by me is, is I yearn for that kind of emotion because I know I've like reached you in a, in a deeper place like your heart or I touched your soul in a different way to evoke that emotion. Um, one of the craziest moments was when my film, my short film debuted at the festival. I went through so much trouble with the Anglers International Film Festival. It wasn't the whole festival, but it was one of the programmers that made it a really displeasurable experience. And I, it was like, there was an overflow of people, like they had 350 seats and there's still 70 people in the lobby. And long story short, I told her, I said, this is going to happen. You know, I got thousands of people like asking about it. And then, you know, they didn't want to open up an overflow room for what? For no reason. And then, and by the time we got all that ironed out, I wasn't in the theater when my film was airing because I was setting up in the overflow room, which could have been done hours before. Like literally I was in church that day because it was a Sunday. And I said, I told them, I said, I think we need an overflow room because it was at the Missouri History Museum. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm in the middle of the sermon and you know how God hits you. Right. And I'm like, they ain't get this taken care of. I left out of church. I went over there and talked to the woman. I said, did they tell you? She was like, no, I didn't say nothing about it. They made a mess. But long story short, I had, I missed that moment. And watching people's reactions. I had a friend, Amy, she said she looked left and right and everybody in her world was crying. So shout out to Amy. Yeah. You know, my guy, Alex was there. Like he said, like everybody, they said everybody was in tears. And so, but I love that. But I personally, a movie that made me cry. I don't know if there's one that's made me cry. There's been some that have really got me deep. And I'm trying to think of what ones those are, you know. But she said as a whole, you're just not a crier like that. Which is interesting because you created a post recently where you posted and you said to men that it's okay to cry. Yeah. I think, yeah. So it's a little surprising to me to hear that you're not a crier. I don't, yeah. I, you know, well, that's the thing is because I feel deep, even though I'm not able to do it. But I feel like it's kind of a bad thing because I don't want somebody thinking like I'm emotionless, you know what I mean? Or detached in that way. You know what I mean? I really, I think that's what drives a lot of my work is because I do feel even if I'm not physically showing it. But you know, in a relationship situation, you can't tell people, like they don't understand. They want to see you crying too, you know what I mean? But you're not crying. The boombox in the rain. I'm the only one, you don't care. You know. Because I told everybody, I need the boombox in the rain. That's the only apology that I know of. I was just raised that way. I got water eyedrops. Try to get them a little moist. A little bit. Okay, you ready to talk? Okay, cool. All right. Okay, so now what I want to do, since I brought up one of your posts, I want to read you some of your posts. And I want you to explain to me the context, the backstory, what you were thinking, what you wanted to take from these posts. I love that you're doing this because I talk about so much stuff. It's so random. Like I literally, I just picked some random posts. So we're going to go with. Oh, this is a good one. This is actually not a crazy one. I just wanted to point this out because I wanted the world to know how super dope you are. October 14th, 2024. You posted, got out the shower thinking about how I can donate 100 turkeys for Thanksgiving. So this was October 14th. Thanksgiving is a month and a half later. And tell us about that process because it's not a lot of time. It isn't. But you know, I think, you know, what's so crazy is it's really listening to God. I mean, so much happens. So much happens when I'm in the shower or I get out. I don't want nobody to take that the wrong way. Yo, so much happens when I get out the shower. And stuff just be coming to me and I just be, I really just put it out there. You know what I mean? Like God be really giving me stuff and I just go with what he's giving me. But my mind, like I really have, I feel like, oh my gosh, like I have such the will and desire to give and to do. And there's just not enough time in the day to execute all that. But there's so many things I think of and I'm like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. But sometimes I just pull the trigger. I don't know how I'm going to get it done. I just trust him that he's going to provide the means and ways to do it because I'm not wealthy or rich or anything. But the thing is, is I also, because I love to give so much sometimes, I don't, I'm comfortable with not having like an amazing car and living in a high-rise downtown and a luxury apartment. First of all, I think the Batmobile is very amazing. I've had it for like seven or eight years. I didn't even know. It looks like brand new. I keep the tires clean. I keep my windows clean. But no, I mean, I'm just saying like, and so sometimes I might not have much to me, but I'm okay because I know God is going to provide a means for me to keep a roof over my head. But I think part of that is because when you come up from nothing, you know what it's like to not, and it's not that I want to be broke or not have money. Like I definitely want to get money. But I'm also, when you have purpose and you understand how good God is and you know what he's doing in your life and you trust in that, you're okay and comfortable with not having all these other things because you're fulfilled in other ways. And I think some people, they're always talking about money and this and what they got because they're not fulfilled in the ways that they need to be. And so that's a difficult thing for them. So for me, I'm like, I'm going to give away a hundred turkeys because I'm always doing stuff. I just don't talk about it. That was just one of those moments where if it's something grander and I'm like, okay, I think I might, you know, because people tell me all the time, like they inbox me and things like that. They'd be like, they know I'm out there doing it even if I'm not talking about it. Yeah. Like I called you one day and I'm like, I'm hearing you in the background and you're just randomly giving out sweatshirts to the unhoused. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, that's, yeah. And I'm just dolo. Like, you know what I'm saying? And it's just like, it's just nothing. Like there was no fanfare. There was no post. Like you were just out there doing it. Yeah. And what's so crazy is the sweatshirts came from, well, a bunch of them came from Tracy Blackman. I guess a lot of people know who Tracy Blackman is, but yeah, she, I guess she had these sweatshirts and they were sitting around. They were extras for something that they had going on or something like that. And she, but she knows I'll be out there. And so she's met me once or twice in a Denny's parking lot, like a dope deal. Like we pull up, like we getting at work, but we are getting at work. It's just that it's to help unhoused people. So we'll pop them trunks up, dab it up in the middle of an empty parking lot and then go our separate ways. And so that's that, you know, that type of stuff happens. But when it's something bigger like that, people want to help. And I wanted to give other people the opportunity to contribute if they wanted to, because some people want to give, but they just don't have the means. They don't have the time. If you, you know, I'm in a situation, you know, of course I want to be married and this, that and the third like that. We'll talk about marriage later. Not much. We're going to go into that later. But, you know, but I'm, because I'm a single individual, you know, and I am busy, I do have the flexibility and because I work for myself. So that doesn't mean, you know, things are any easier. I just have the flexibility to do those things. And so I know some people, I want to be able to provide them a way to bless other people. So that's the reason I put that out there. But it was good because people like you pitched in. So shout out to the Lauren Sturman. You weren't even supposed to say that. I know, but, you know, I'm very much, I have to recognize the people out here. Is there anybody else? I know you don't want to leave anybody out, but anybody else off the top of your head? Oh, that helped? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. My mom. I have to start with my mom. Like I told my mom, I think my mom, it's interesting. She's like kind of got this transformation now. Like she gets it in a way. Now she gets like I'm in my bag. And so like I'm like, yeah, I'm about to give away 100 turkeys. She's like, well, I'm going to give you some money. She gives me, so it starts. So that's my biggest contributor, right, because she kept me alive for 18 years. But she did pitch in a lot of money. And then you, my friend Amy did. Oh, you know, a big, big donor, and she wouldn't want me to put her out there on blast, but this woman Mildred, she lives in Ferguson too, Mildred Clines. Like she was actually, it was her chunk of change that took me to the east side. Oh, the additional turkeys. So I did 100. So the day of, I meant to go, I wanted to go to the east side both times, but, or the whole time, but I was like, let me go on Ferguson. So I pulled up down the street from where I used to stay in Ferguson. And I gave out over about 120. But Mildred threw in a chunk that allowed me to take another six, over 60 plus, over into. So you had a goal October 14th of 100. And when it was all said and done, what day did you do it? Shoot, what day did I, I did it like about five. Because I remember I was thinking in my head, I'm like, okay, people like to marinate their turkeys, like the season. I literally, I'd be thinking like, just because you can't afford to buy one, don't mean you don't want to cook your turkey right. So I'm like, I want to give people time to get it, let it unthaw, marinate it, baste it, whatever you do. So I think I did it, it was the Friday and then the Sunday before Thanksgiving. So I gave people six, six, five days, yeah, four days or whatever to do it. So yeah, so I went to east St. Louis on Sunday and I went to Ferguson on Friday. And who was there like boots on the ground? So my girl Shelly was out there. Fran Griffin, who was actually running for Ferguson City Council, was out there. My guy Alex, I told him about it. He said, I'll help you pass them out. Because I was like, I got to get a U-Haul truck for this. I don't know how, I've never stuffed 100 turkeys into anything before. So I said, I think they can fit in the van. So I picked up the U-Haul truck, I paid, you know, and pulled up at Walmart. And that was a hassle. Like I tried to go through Schnucks corporate, they were no help. They didn't, you know, they didn't help me in store. I had a friend that called somebody in the corporate office. It went nowhere. They were like, you know, we're not blah, blah, blah. I'm like, y'all are so trash for that. And then I went to Aldi's. Aldi says they don't do bulk anything for anybody anymore. They stopped that two years ago. So then, unfortunately, I went to the evil empire of Walmart. And then they are the evil empire. And after that, they got rid of their DEI programs like a couple weeks later. But they are the evil empire. But I went to multiple Walmart stores. And when I went in there, it wasn't no easy process. Four or five people. Hey, I'm trying to speak to a manager. Well, how can I help you? I'm like, you can't help me. And they're like, ah. And I'm like, I told you, you couldn't after I got to the fourth, fifth person. So I finally found this brother at the Maplewood one. And he was like, yeah, we got him. He was like, I got him now. I was like, can you wait until Friday? He was like, yeah, I got you. He gave me his cell phone number. And he like, you know, took a pallet, tagged it up, said he's going to hold something here. And God bless him for that. And sometimes that's how it is. It takes one person because I know how it is a week before Thanksgiving. And so I ended up giving that dude like a card and some cash, like a gift card or something like that, just as a thank you. But, yeah, but that was it. I just personally pledged to, I said, if it's going to come out of my pocket, I'm going to get 100 guaranteed no matter if I get help or not. And then y'all, you the people, gave the increase. And so it was over 180 people. But I love this because even though this is a fun part, this is definitely a lesson in obedience. You know what I mean? When God gives you a vision, even if you're in the south, when God gives you that vision, all you have to do is take one step in the right direction and be an obedient to the vision, and he will add the increase. Amen. Everything you need to happen, he will make sure that the door is open. But if nobody ever takes that first step, if everybody is stuck in their head or stuck in fear of, I don't know, this is impossible, I can't do this, close mouth, don't get fed, literally. Yeah, absolutely. And shout out to my guy, Dirk Brown, who anytime I call him and I need something, you know, Dirk got a huge following. Very huge following, yeah. But I've known Dirk for years, so Dirk has called me for advice about things, stuff like that, you know, and I pick up the phone. Me and Dirk have given out pizzas to the homeless before. Nobody knew about it. You know, we just be like, yo, I'm going to put this in, I'm going to put this in. We went to Little Caesars. We did that. You know what I mean? We serve on the regular, so Dirk. And you posted something too that was so profound. It was like something about like a little amount making a big change. I can't get it exactly, but it was so profound to me because it was like you were acknowledging every gift that you got. Yeah. Because, you know, the people that support me and the support that I get, like Mildred and people like these people that watch me for the last 10 years, pack up in my car, drive 11 hours to Buffalo out of my own dime after 10 black people were murdered by white supremacists in a supermarket. They have seen me drive to Minneapolis after George Floyd was murdered, to, you know, Atlanta and Breonna Taylor, all these places. You know, they knew I was in Kenosha where the white guy murdered two protesters. Like these people have supported me, and so they know I'm doing the work, and I'm grateful to them for that. But sometimes people feel so guilty because they can't do as much as they want, and what I want to do is demystify that. And so I think the post you're talking about is when I was saying to people, because people would send me like they like cash out like 15 bucks. I'm like, don't take for granted even the smallest donation, because that $15 bought a turkey. That same turkey was like, you know, well, the deal I got him for was about $8, 8, 6 pounds something. So that same turkey was, I think that's what I'm saying. Schnooks was having a good deal. Schnooks was not trying to help. But you know what? Shout out to Costco, because Costco is pledging to keep DEI programs. So if I do this again, all of them coming from Costco, Walmart. But I said that $15 that you bought with nothing bought a whole turkey. And that same turkey that, you know, some of them weigh like 15, 16, 17 pounds. You know, like if you measure it out, they say like it's enough for like 8 to 10 servings. Like that's a substantial idea. And so you think it's nothing that, you know, 15 bucks, but you're feeding a family. So that's, I think, what I was saying is like people, I think it's just society as a whole puts people, pressure on people like what they ain't got if they're not doing enough, things like that. I'm like some people just, you know, that's all they can do is five bucks. That's fine. And to me, I feel like if you're giving five bucks and your account has 10, that means so much more than someone who maybe is extremely well off. Exactly. And giving, you know, 100 or 200 because you're giving what is almost your last and your heart is in the right place. And as long as you give tearfully, God will surely make sure that it is given back to you. I mean, and that's everything you said is so dope and so amazing because that's the mindset I have. Like I am not, I do not got money like that. I just, I just know it's going to be. I'm not even thinking about myself. I just know God going to make sure I'm straight. I'm not going to be on the street. So, but if this is a half or a third or a fourth of the money that I got in my bank account, I'm fine with it. Like it's good. And so, you know, and I don't think people should feel guilty about a small dollar donation because you know what? There's people out here and I ain't naming no names. Let me think about it. I ain't naming no names. But there's people out here talking about what they driving, talking about what, you know, companies they got, talking about what businesses they got. And they didn't give the portion of their total wealth like you did. You may have $100 in your bank account and gave me five bucks, right? Or 10 bucks. You gave me 10% of the money that you have in your account. Some of these people talking about they got millions of dollars and everything like that and they gave like $100 worth of donations. Yeah. Yeah, okay. We appreciate the $100, but you gave .00 whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? Like there's people, the people that were giving to me are not millionaires. I know a couple of people that, you know, they well off. They didn't give me jack. So I appreciate the folks that I know that's struggling to get by because the money that it took to get the extra 80 some odd turkeys and stuff like that, that did not come from people that I know got the bread. And they knew I was doing this. So it says a lot. That's good. Yeah. It means a lot to me at least. I'll say that. Okay. So this one, I hope you can remember, this was October the 5th. I don't know. And you said, remind me to tell y'all about what just happened on this plane when I get back. What? Now to the best of my ability, I researched to see if you ever told what happened on the plane. I could not find a follow-up. So I want to know what happened on the plane. That was maybe when I came back from Detroit or Seattle. Yes, it was Detroit, I believe. So that was probably a situation where I had went on the plane. I always fly Southwest because I need my two free bags. I don't care where I sit. I travel with equipment. I wanted my free bags. No diss to anybody that works for Delta. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Unless Delta want to help me fly. I said we could talk about that. I went and she told me, so people are boarding. And I'm minding my business. This is my last leg to St. Louis, right? And I think she said, she was like, you got to sit at the back of the plane. And I'm like, what? She's like, yeah, no, I'm serious. I was like, you need to get to the back. We're trying to balance it out. Now, I was like, I ain't never heard nobody say that in all my years of flying to me, right? Now, hear me out. So I said, you're kidding. And she was like, yeah, like, no, I'm serious. I'm like, man, don't diss. I went and sat like in the fifth row. Like, I did not care. Because I'm like, Rosa Parks did not sacrifice all that for me to be getting in the back of nobody's bus, no back in nobody's plane. I said, Rosa Parks fought and died for me to sit wherever I want on this plane. So then what happened was, and I didn't hear her say that to anybody else in front of me. She said it to me. And this is a blonde-haired white woman. So I'm like, man, I ain't doing no racist stuff. You got the wrong one, Jack. So I sat there. And then what happened was, she goes by, and I hear her tell another person, and it was like four minutes later, I hear the pilot get on. And I'm like, hey, can we get some people, you know, kind of move to the back of the plane so we can balance out the plane? I wasn't going to tell you that. I was like, now here's the crazy part. Before I did any of this stuff, I am heavy into aviation. Like, I think if somebody went to have an intellectual conversation with me, they would be surprised how much I know about aviation. Like, and so I'm just like, why didn't I think about this? But when I'm flying commercially, I never have to deal with it or nothing like that. And I've been on light planes. I've been on heavy planes. I've been on, you know, all the sorts because I'm, you know. But that day, and so then she came back through the aisle, and I'm sitting there, and I'm like, you know, I have the little puppy dog, like, pushing boots face. I'm like, ma'am, I am so sorry. Yes, that definitely is a racist thing. We definitely want to keep the low down. Right. I said, ma'am, I'm sorry. And then she just kind of put her hand up like she didn't want to say nothing to me. I said, I put my hand on like I'm clutching my pearls. I don't got no pearls. I'm like, did this woman just put her hands up at me? So I said, you know what? I'm going to give her grace because I show with being super rebellious. And then what happened was when we got off the plane, I talked to the lady at the thing. I said, is this a real thing? Or was I being just racially targeted? She said, no, it's for real. She showed me her computer and everything. Her load management. So then I waited for that woman to get off. I talked to the pilot who was a brother. And I was like, little bro, I didn't mean to disrespect you, girl. And when she came off and I said, ma'am, I am so sorry. I didn't know. And she accepted my apology the second time. Okay. All is well that ends well. Yeah, but boy, I was like, I did it in front of everybody. Because I'm like, Rosa Parks fought and died. You learned that day. Okay. So we have one more of your social media posts, which is a great segue into another conversation we're going to have. But this one says, I spoke with Tamika Mallory today. Man, let me march up on up to Zales real quick. Tell me about this. Oh, my gosh. I got to send that to my man Malik. He's going to crack up. So, okay. So check it, check it, check it. So my man, my guy, so, I mean, you know, I don't know if people know him or don't know him. So Malik Yoberg, like, New York undercover, Tyler Perry, you know, why did I get married, all that. Dope dude, very talented actor, very humble, cool brother about the people. Like, we, you know, like, we're like, we've been friends for like some years. And recently we finally got the chance to, like, collaborate on some projects and stuff, right. So he's come into St. Louis and he's been working with this company, shout out to Mocify, that's about financial empowerment, real estate, and just really just getting black people just having the financial equity in our communities and stuff. So I'm doing some projects with them right now. So he was in town. And then Tamika Mallory, who, if you don't know Tamika Mallory, look her up. She is an amazing woman. She's on this, she's an activist speaker. She has this organization called Until Freedom. She was, her organization were boots on the ground for many, many months advocating for Breonna Taylor, not just Breonna Taylor, but other causes. And they were pushing, and they were getting people registered to vote and everything, and they were working with the family. So just selfless woman out here doing the work. And they're friends. And I think she called him while, you know, because Malik was, he was driving around in my hooptie. And it's not really a hooptie. It's a bad hooptie. Yeah, it's a hooptie. It's whatever. It's a whip. I'm just blessed to have a whip. So we ride around the car, and she calls him, and he's on speakerphone, and I'm like driving. I'm like, what? So real talk, Tamika is so beautiful. Like, I mean, all black women are beautiful. Tamika is beautiful, though. She's not beautiful. She's more beautiful. I think the biggest attraction to her is because she's so strong. And I'm not intimidated and afraid by strong women like yourself. You know what I mean? Like, I think that's brilliant. I love when you use your voices, and you advocate, and you're passionate about something. You care about people. That is the most attractive trait about her. But she's still physically beautiful. Physically beautiful. That helps too. That helps too. But the heart, I want people to understand, the heart is the most important thing. But she is physically beautiful. And I don't see why these suckers haven't really, like, tried to put her in some fashion show. But they're probably mad because she's speaking the truth about advocating for black and brown people. So he calls her, and I told him, I said, man, Tamika is the stuff, man. I'm like, yo. And so he puts her on the phone, like on speakerphone, and he's like, yo. And his Malika voice, he's like, my man, like, you know, he's like, I don't know what he said. And I'm just sitting there driving. I'm like, I'm sorry, Ms. Mallory. I just wanted to say that you're amazing, and I think you're beautiful. And I'm like, I said, I just appreciate and applaud what you're doing. And then I'm like, okay. And then she's like, well, thank you, brother, for doing the work. And, you know, she was real cool and cordial about it. And I get off. I said, bro. I said, that was Tamika. Like, I'm slipping in my seat. So that's why I made that post. I was like, yeah. But shout out. Did you ever make it to sales? No, because I ain't got no money for that. Not that I ain't got no money. I just ain't got no money for no ring. I can get her a ring top at this point. But maybe later on. Oh, my God. You and Tamika? My last is about to come off in a minute. No, no, I didn't make it to sales. No, I didn't make it to sales. I don't know. I don't know where. She may have somebody. So I don't, you know. Well, no disrespect if she does. No disrespect. I mean, I'm serious. Like, I think she's a dope person. But it's always great when you get to, you know, speak to people that you're a fan of and just really support the work. Like, Angela Rhyme. There's a whole fleet of black female journalists that I love and support. Shout out to my girl, Sarah Simon at CNN. And so I just love, you know, I just, the system just be holding us down. I mean, that's another conversation for another day. So I just, you know, I love my girl. Well, we always have time for you to show love to the system. Yeah. That's always appropriate and on brand. Check on your strong friends. Like, I never heard anybody say that until I met you. And I thought it was powerful. Well, I wish I could take credit for it. I did not. I originally saw it on the back of a hoodie that Meg Thee Stallion had on. Really? And when I saw it, it resonated with me because I know myself and so many other people are, you know, that person for their family, for their friends that they get called to vent to or to lean upon, to make solutions, to fix things. And it's like when you are the go-to person, who do you go to? And, of course, we go to God. I mean, that goes without saying. Right. But even in going to God, we're human, right? So sometimes when you get pulled in a lot of directions, it gets to a point where you, yourself, are in need of some type of support and some type of human interaction and people and everything to check on you because why? You got it all together, right? You seem to be happy. You're always smiling. You know, you're high-functioning. You know, you're always on the move. And I think it just gave me a sense of awareness during the pandemic when mental health awareness was at an all-time high. We really need to check on the people that always come through for us. We can't forget about them just because we feel like they don't need to be checked on. Well, I think that's powerful, like, in the sense because everything you said is true. But it also underscores, like, it goes back to what I was saying earlier about, you know, the power and impact of one person's voice. Like what she did was put it on the back of a sweatshirt. But you took that and you – it's like you didn't make the tire – you didn't make the wheel. You made the good, rich tire. Like, you know what I'm saying? You made the muscle and tire out of it. That's a good way to look at it. Yeah. Because when I hear that phrase, shout-out to her for wearing it, but it does not – and I don't know her personally, and so it's no shade or no dis. I don't think of that when I think of her. It does not – you personify that more than she does. Maybe that's because I know you, but, you know, I know her as an entertainer and different things. And maybe she does check on her friends, but you have made this, like, part of your mission statement. I don't know what Megan's mission statement is because all I see her do is kick it and, you know, like, and drink and – not all drink. I don't want to bash Megan or anything like that, you know, but I don't see anything outside of entertainment. I don't know what she cares about. I don't know what she's passionate about. And actually, this reminds me of a conversation I had with another girl who was interested in me years ago, a beautiful woman, and then she asked me one day, she said, if I wasn't – like, if I didn't know you, would you follow me or something like that, like on social media or something like that? I said, no. And it was kind of like, oh, because she's a gorgeous girl, got like 10,000 followers. And it was just like the question came up. And I was like, well, because all I see on your page is modeling and lingerie clips, pieces. Now, I know you personally, so I'm not tripping off that stuff because I found out about that after the fact because I met you in person through a friend that I've known for like, shoot, 20 years almost. But I said, I don't know anything about what you care about, what's important to you, what, you know, anything personally. I don't know – you know, I don't know anything that you're passionate about or anything that resonates with your heart. So women with beautiful pictures is a dime a dozen. You know, what's your message? That's deep. So that's the deep. That's really, really deep in this social media climate of, you know, everything has to look a certain way, be packaged a certain way, be perfect and aesthetically pleasing. You have a man who's coming on and saying, okay, you got that, and now what else? Yeah, I mean, let's keep it a bone, like, I mean, that lust, visual stuff like that, the people that that intrigues them the most, they're going to get bored at a certain point. It's the deeper kind of real message, like seeing – Yeah, they're going to get bored, and it's the deeper connection that you make, the ones from the heart that makes you stay attractive over the long run. In my personal opinion. Which is a great segue because, you know, I was going to ask you. I do. I mean, you're doing so well with leading into everything for me, but I was definitely going to ask you, what are you looking for in a woman? Dang. You got to make people pay for this content because this is a wild question, and I can already see some of the friends. I know they're probably going to crack up at this moment. They're probably picking up their cup of tea. Popping the popcorn, inquiring minds want to know. If they were slouching and drowsiness in their seat, they're all sitting up now. I'm like, girl, let me call you back. Because they talk like I'm a mystery or like – And this is the clip that I'm going to definitely use to keep this part, too. So let me alert the editor. This is the clip that I definitely – Here you go. You're going to put a marker on that. I'm supposed to put a marker on this one. Yeah. Yeah, what am I looking for in a woman? I mean, gosh, this is a question. You know, I am – so what matters to me – This is almost like pop the balloon dating, right? Let me tell you something. What is it? What does that say right there? I do – We're on the same page. We're on the same page. So what am I looking for in a woman? I think what I'm looking for is – I think the heart is what matters to me most, right? Now, I'm going to try and keep it as concise as I can, but for me, I think I just want to know that your heart is pure, and I want to know that you have integrity and that you care about something more than yourself. That's good. I think – and, of course, her faith and belief in God. And I don't expect people to be at the same place of understanding because we're all on this journey, right? We're all – like, you know, we don't have to all that, but I just need you to at least be in that forward motion of trying to have that relationship and understanding because the thing is, life is crazy, right? And, you know, if we're in a partnership, we're in a relationship, I've got to know that you're willing to pray over me like I'm willing to pray over you. That's good. And that's the thing. That's because I know anything can happen, and people that know me, they'd be afraid. I get called when I'm going to these cities and I'm filming and cops are shooting and beating people, I've been arrested, all these things like that, tear gas, everything like that. You've got to be covered, you know, not just by yourself, but the Word talks about when one or more come together in prayer, but you've got to be covered. And, you know, when they say for better or for worse, for richer or poorer, you know, things like that, it's that faith that gets you through, and you have to have somebody that's willing to do that over you. And so, really, personally, somebody that understands, what is it, 1 Corinthians chapter 13 says about love. What's in the Scripture? Give me that one more time. Is that 1 Corinthians? I think it's chapter 13, verse, I don't know, it's rough, but it's easy to find because it talks about everything. It's like love is patient, love is kind, love is, you know what I mean? Oh, I got you. You know that one? Patient, kind, forgiving. Yeah, I like the King James Version because I know that's harder for people to understand and read, but it's definitely. Okay, well, we're always going to, you know, give a highlight to the Word. Yeah. So, let me read this. Okay. Oh, it's a lot of verses to this. Yeah, it's all, but it is the roadmap. Go ahead, read it, read it. Oh, my gosh, let me see. Okay, let me make sure we got all of it. I feel like there's a verse that jumps and it gets back into it, too. Loves all things, cherishes all things, something like that. Okay. I need a refresher on that. On the Scripture? Yeah. Let me make sure. Okay, well, on King James. Oh, so King James. So, NIV is probably best for the listeners because King James kind of, it refers to it as charity, where it says, charity suffereth long and is kind. Charity envieth not. Charity launceth not itself. So, it doesn't use the word love specifically. So, if we hop over into the NIV, it says, love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy. It does not boast. It is not proud. It does not dishonor others. It is not self-seeking. It is not easily agreed. Let's see, we're going to hop down. I'm sorry, it's not easily angered. Let me correct that. It is not easily angered. It keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, and always perseveres. And that is 1 Corinthians 13, 4 through 7. Yep, that's it. Gotcha. That's the blueprint right there. So, the blueprint is we need a woman with a pure heart. We need a praying woman, a woman that knows how to pray out loud and, like, really covered, like, not just God is great, God is good, let me thank you for our food, like, really covered this man as he is going out into the trenches doing the great work and then just having character and integrity. Yeah, yeah. Those are the things. I think for me, I mean, if that's at your soul and your core, understanding that we're not perfect, but I think from there, it's the tributaries of all these other great things come from that, right? The thing that people talk about accountability, right? Like, it's the popular term now, like narcissism and stuff, right? Some people don't even know what that means still, but it's that I think if you follow that, at least as your guiding light within the Scripture, the accountability naturally comes with it, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, all these things that people are talking about, if they just follow those words what that Scripture says, if you try to be the embodiment of things, all those other things fall underneath that realm. And then after that, let's get to the fun stuff. Like, can you laugh? Please be willing to laugh. I'm outgoing. I'm not saying you got to snowboard with me or ice skate or anything like that, which is cool, but just being that. Do you snowboard? Yeah, not like all the time because I'm in St. Louis, but, yeah. Oh, wow. I was just talking about with a friend the other day about going back to Snoqualmie Pass in Washington because I love snowboarding. It's fun. But, yeah, but, I mean, just being able to laugh, being flexible, you know, everything like that, being kind and compassionate, just hearing. And then, yeah, and then just taking accountability. Like, I don't expect people to be perfect. And I'm very much a type of person that's kind of willing to meet you where you are, but at the same time I don't want to be a person that's, like, always about, oh, you have the potential to be this. Like, you know, you want to come ready in certain respects, but at the same time I want somebody to have the same kind of grace that God has upon us. Like, I mean, I want to give grace. That's something that I'm working at. So I want to be with somebody that also gives me the same amount of grace. And when we're both doing that under the realm of love, then we can just blossom and bloom together, like, you know what I mean? That's beautiful. Yeah. It's hard, but it's not that hard. Okay, so physical attributes. Oh, shoot. Oh, dang. Oh, shit. So I'm going to tell you what, like, my friend from Portugal said. I think this conversation came up, like, about 12, 13 years ago. She said, oh, you're like, well, you're like, I said, well, you know, I'm not really that specific. Like, she can be tall. She can be short. You know, she can be kind of big. She can be kind of petite. I definitely don't do color linguisms and things like that. You don't have, like, a short hair, long hair? No, no. That stuff is ridiculous. Shame on suckers that be about that, man. That stuff is so ridiculous. Like, I be looking at these suckers, like, man, I mean, yeah, okay, somebody going to listen to this. I'm like, yeah, you know, you know, I got preferences. And I think that's the most whack, ridiculous nonsense. But you don't have, like, any physical attribute. When you see it on a woman, you're just like. There's things that stand out to me, but I'm like, come on, like, first of all, when you're talking about particularly black women, as creative as we are, as beautiful, and we come in all forms, like, I'm not worried about the hair as long as it's kept. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's relative. And that's the thing, like, what I just got done talking about Grace, right? Like, who expects, look, I know Beyonce made a record talking about, I woke up like this. No, you didn't. Like, you didn't. You didn't. It takes time, yeah. I appreciate Tyra Banks decades ago when she put that photo of her without makeup on. And I'm like, yo, we got to appreciate that person, not the mask, right? Yeah. So, for me, I appreciate, yeah, if you want to come glam, but I'm really, I will tell you, the women that know me, they, I think, if they were to say it, if Amy was to say it, you definitely get a little uptick with the natural beauty, like, in that way. Because I'm not, I'm just regular folk, like, I want us to take away from, I want us to stop putting so much pressure on each other to look at this, to this, this, this sense of, this beauty, you know what I mean? Like. I'm going to disagree with you, though. Oh, sure. You know why? It's not pressure. I think sometimes it is. I don't think it is. I feel like there are some women, and I have to advocate for us, there are some women that genuinely like to show up a certain way. They like to enhance their natural beauty. They like to put in that extra effort. And it's not always for a man. It's for themselves. Like, it makes them feel good. It makes them tap into a deeper level of inner confidence. It's not bougie. It's not bougie. But I'm saying, like, you have Beyonce. And then you have Sasha Fierce. Sasha Fierce is that alter ego when she performs. I've heard her say that before. For a lot of women, just stepping it up with that, and maybe it's not even stepping it up, but just adding the makeup to the situation can tap into that extra inner confidence. It just allows them to show up as their very best self. Well, I think maybe I reframed it. Let me try this again. I'm not saying that I don't appreciate those things. I'm just saying that I think we need to stop putting pressure on it. I think there are two different things that I'm talking about. Like, what I'm saying is I'm not knocking that you do it. I'm just saying that I want us to get away from diminishing someone and knocking them if they don't show up like that every day. You know what I mean? And so I see it both ways because I feel like as a woman who is very much into glam, I feel like we get a lot of slack because we do. Wait a minute. I'm sorry. I'm confused. You're saying you do get a lot of grace, you said? No, I said I think we get a lot of slack. Like, we get a lot of negative comments if we do. If you do glam? Yeah, if we do glam a lot because I feel like it's like, oh, you know, you're trying to hide something or you're trying to overcompensate or you're trying to. And I feel like everybody, it should be like a to each his own situation. Like, I don't think you should be bashed if you do. I don't think you should be bashed if you don't. I think it should just be everybody does what works for them when it works for them. You know, I don't do glam 24-7. No, that's what I'm talking about. When I do, I just feel like a lot of people will look at that and think in a negative way or think that, oh, you don't really love yourself if you do this. No, I love me. No, that's not what I was saying. What I was saying more so is that I appreciate the natural, somebody that's not afraid to show up in their natural. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you were to ask a woman that knows me, they would say, Chris, you would have a little bit of appeal if you came up that way. But at the same time, that's not necessarily per se what I'm looking for is that specific type of woman. Because I feel like even that comment with you saying somebody who's not afraid, like, I don't feel like wearing makeup means you're afraid to be natural. I don't think that being in my natural state is me having more or less bravery. I feel like everybody just does what works for them and how they're feeling. Sure, I can see that. I can see that. I think there's exceptions and norms to every situation and dynamic. I think that maybe you're in that space, but I definitely know that there are people that are not in that space. And that's the ones I'm speaking to. I mean, it's great that you have the confidence or maybe people in your circle are in that frame of mind. But I'm telling you, like, I'll be out here in these streets. One thing about me is I'm in all the spaces. Oh, I know, you pop in. No, I'm not like this. No, I'm just, no, no, I didn't see her. No, what I'm saying is, like, you know, like, I'm in your boardrooms and I'm on the block. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm in the regular spots. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's no place too good or not good enough. Well, we all like to have a stand or something. But I'm in all different spaces. Like, everybody's like, and they people like, you know, when folks say, man, you know, they see some wild stuff and they be like, Chris, go get your people. You know, but I tell them I be like, everybody's my people. And that's how I kind of move. So what I'm saying is that that's a beautiful and dope thing that you're in there. And I'm not, I know that what you're saying is authentic. And that's very real for some people. But there is a segment of people that they do feel pressure. That is a very real thing for a lot of people out there, that they do feel the pressure to maintain. Think about it. Why are we getting BBLs? Well, see. Not me. Not you. Like, I'm just saying, why are people getting BBLs? Why is that a thing now? Where did that come from? Personally, I feel like that's just as a result of society has made the perfect body based on women who maybe were shaped like Kim Kardashian when she first began her popularity. So it's like that has become the standard. So now I notice something even as a plus-size woman. When I look at women who are modeling for plus-size clothing, even they have had, like, tummy tucks or different things like that. So when I look at the ads, I'm like, this isn't even an accurate representation of what this would look like on me. Because even now it's gotten into plus-size women that even we have to have a tummy tuck or a BBL or something done to our bodies in order to fit this mold. Now, okay, so I'm glad you said that. That's good to think about that. Now, pressure, I think we have, there's an idea of what we think pressure is. But isn't that not when something is normalized in the mainstream and we feel like we have to fit within that. That is a form of not, I think when pressure, we think of pressure, I guess maybe I'm saying it in an arbitrary way. But what I'm saying pressure is, is like, I'm not saying somebody's forcing you and punching you in the face and telling you, you got to do this, da-da-da-da-da. But I'm saying it is self-induced pressure that if you feel like you to maintain a standard of beauty or to be seen or to get a modeling contract that you have to make these alterations. That is some form of self-induced pressure in a way. You see what I'm saying? I still don't think it applies to makeup. I'm not saying with makeup. I have no problem with makeup. Ever since I was a child. No, but I didn't say once that I had a problem with a woman with makeup. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just prefer the natural. I don't have a preference. I just think that here's what I want. Not what I want. I'm going to call Amy and we're going to let her. No, because she's like really my arch nemesis. But she's trying to tell me about myself. And like she feels like, Amy, what she is is she feels like she's an expert because she's been in places and spaces and seen people that have been checking me out. And she feels like she has had to be the filter for people out in these streets and stuff. So, women, if you're listening and if you want to get in and she's a child. Amy's going to give you the playbook. No, I'm just saying, like, but but it's funny. It's just we just have that like funny banter. But but what I'm saying is, is that for me, it's just the thing. The only thing I say is I appreciate when it like we just got to talk about Tamika Mallory. I have rarely seen her without makeup. I've seen her sometimes, but probably more with makeup than not of some kind. Right. My thing is, is that if you with me, I just don't want it to be a thing like you can't be regular folk, like you can't throw on some dunks or something and just be able to go out the house. Like you can't you can't. You know, like it's good. Like, here's the thing. I want you to feel beautiful. I know how those things make you feel good and feel confident and everything like that. Like, that's what I tell people. Do what makes you feel confident and good. I just don't want it to be like that. Can we go to the movie? And you ain't got to go to the movies. I feel good. I want you also. I also want to make sure that, you know, or you feel beautiful around me or I make you feel beautiful, whether you have it or not. That's the only thing. That's good. So, in essence, you don't have a specific type. You just want everyone to be the best version of themselves. Yeah, I mean, I think I have a type. I don't think I have a type. Like, not like particular attributes, but I just think, I mean, I'm sure something will come up to me when I leave, you know, when I'm in the car. But I think I do appreciate a woman that is well kept. That's where, so this is, on your point, I appreciate you keep your hair done, you know, your beautiful glowing skin. You know, I think everybody's got a great smile. I love a beautiful smile, like, you know, like anybody else. When y'all have y'all nails done, and the thing is, is about me, is like as a creative, like even people that know me will say, like, I pay attention to details and stuff. So, I'll notice, like, ooh, your nails different. Okay. All right. I see. You know, I see the nude color you got on. I'm like, okay, that's what's up. You know, I know that's not typical for a dude to do, but I notice the details. So, and I'll give you props on that. So, but yeah, I don't know. Okay. So, we have to put steers. Okay. Because if we talk about what you like. What I don't like. We got to talk about what you don't like. We got to talk about the deal breakers. What are the deal breakers? The good stuff. The good stuff. I know, I'm just kidding. That's what people want to hear. Like, they want to hear me dash. Dad, how much time you got? No, I'm just kidding. I'm just working on it. We got a few more minutes. So, I'll try to make it like a short list. What I don't like is I don't like selfish people. I don't like people that, I don't like people that don't. I mean, the antithesis of everything that I talked about that I do like, I don't like the antithesis of that. I don't like people that don't care about anything but themselves. And that, you know, like I've met some people, even this year, self-absorbed people. You know what I'm saying? Like, nothing else matters except for the stuff that you got going on. I can't stand that. You know what I mean? Like, there's other things in the world. It's cool. Like, I don't keep tabs, but, you know, but check on your strong friends. You know, like, that type of thing. Like, if you the type of person, like, oh, I got this going on, girl, this, this, this, this, this, and you didn't take the time to really ask what's going on with the other person that's on the other end of the phone, I don't like that stuff. Yeah. I don't like people that will talk negatively about those that are, or people that pass judgment on those that are not in advantaged positions like themselves. Like, you know what I mean? So, I don't like people that will ridicule somebody because of what, you know, some sort of material state, you know, whether it be their finances or what kind of car they're driving or whatever the case may be, because you just never know what people are going through. You don't know what kind of sacrifices that they're doing that may put them under. And we're all really one catastrophe away. Away from being out on the street. Yeah. Right. I've seen that. You will find out. It's not because we've been in work. It's because of a medical bill. It's because of a, you know, something, a bankruptcy. It's all kinds of things. I don't like that. So, the human component, I don't like. I don't like people that are, of course, you know, like, I don't like people that get, like, sloppy drunk. Like, I don't like that. People that just do not, are not humble. A lack of humility is a big turnoff for me. I don't like people that do things to seek attention. You know, because some people are just natural spirits. They're going to take up the room, right? I can appreciate that. But I know the difference between people that are really attention-driven, you know what I mean, towards, you know, and behind their motives. I think a lot of the things that are minuses to me are about things that are about the head and the heart and the emotional state. You know what I mean? Gotcha. So, you know. What's an ideal first date? I mean, that's really kind of up to the woman for me. So, I think rule of thumb for me is a place where we can talk and I've got to learn you. So, for me, the attraction really doesn't sit in until I know where your head and your heart is at. I see. So, the chances that we get the opportunity to have a conversation and I can dig in. Like, somebody said, and I ain't going to name names, but I think some people think I'm a sapiosexual, which is basically a person that's attracted to intelligence. I'm not going to say that's true, but I'm not going to say it's not true because I am attracted to that, but it's not everything. I want to be physically attracted to you too, but I am concerned about your head and your heart. That has more weight. So, learning you. But an ideal date for me can be so much because I love being outdoors. I love the quiet personal time. I love a whole scenario where we can go to a very nice place. Now, I've got Timberlands on right now, right? But, I mean, I appreciate it. But I can appreciate getting in some slacks and some dress shoes and things like that. But, yeah, an ideal first date. And I also, you know what I like to do for an ideal first date is I really like doing things that you haven't done before and making it a surprise. I like that too. I like the creative element of it all. I love surprising people. So much so that I normally give surprises away because I can't hold them too long. It's hard for me to do because you don't know too much information at first, but the thing is I try to spelunk your mind. Yeah, and, like, listen to people and store the data. So, anything catered to you and anything that's unique, yes. Okay. So, we're going to wrap this up with playing. Let's see. Okay. Well, I'm going to ask you just some quick questions. Like, first thing that comes to mind, and then we're going to do a couple truth or dare, and then we'll wrap it up. You're doing an amazing job, by the way. Thank you. I love this. Okay. So, dream vacation spot. Shoot. Okay. A few places that come to mind. I'll try to be quick. Japan. Africa is number one. And there's an island off the coast of Portugal, Madagascar, and, yeah, those are places that come to mind. Favorite book. Shoot. I don't know. I'm still working through the 1619 Project. There's a book by James Baldwin. But, yeah, those are two that come to mind. What is the name of it? It's slipping me. It's a very short book by James Baldwin. It's slipping my mind right now. But, anyway, those are two that's coming to mind. Okay. So, we'll have to do a follow-up. Dare you. Tell me what that book is. If you could have dinner with anyone, dead or alive, who are we having dinner with? Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Dead or alive? What? Like, is it John Williams? He's alive. He's in his 90s. I'm trying to have dinner with him before he goes. But, oh, man. Well, I'm going to meet Jesus one of these days. So, I will knock him off the list. James Earl Jones, Chairman Fred Hampton. I would love to meet Denzel and Angela Bassett and freaking so many people. So many people come to mind. Nat Turner. I would love to meet Halle Berry. There's so many people. This is almost like music. It is. It's so hard. So many influential people out here I love. Okay. What's a perfect Saturday for you? Oh, my gosh. Dang. These are some questions. You know what? You can't believe I came up with all this. I can because you're good at what you do. A perfect Saturday for me is one that's either helping people or something that's either productive, something that's making someone else happy, or something that's serving people, which ultimately could be making somebody happy. That's a perfect Saturday, whatever that looks like. Okay. Truth or dare? Which one do you want? Are you brave? I'll take them both. You want both? I guess. I don't know how bad this is going to be. Okay. Let's see. Oh, my gosh. 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