Terrible Classics Love & Basketball

The speakers discuss the concept of small shopping carts at Food Lion and compare them to the Mini Cooper car. They debate the usefulness and convenience of small carts and whether or not Food Lion should have more of them. They also discuss the movie "Love and Basketball" and express differing opinions on its quality and storyline. The conversation touches on the length of the movie, character development, and the ending. Overall, the speakers have mixed views on both the small carts and the movie. You are now tuned into the most ignorant podcast in America this is the unemployment line I am the DOK and I'm sitting here with my main man Larry P what you got to say my man? I think um every time I go on Food Lion they don't have enough of the small carts the short carts they got the big carts but everybody like Food Lion got the small carts? Yeah they got like I think like every Food Lion got like ten of them because every time I go they be gone and everybody else be having them but they got the big carts but nobody want to use the big carts so I think that they just need to make more small carts and put them in Food Lion. I don't like the concept of the small cart the small cart is saying that hey I'm here to like pick up things but I'm not here to pick up a lot of things I don't need to I don't need to fill up my cart. See I feel like the small cart is you lying to yourself because if you really needed the small cart you probably should have just got the basket. Well the basket you have to carry it nobody wants to carry the basket. But you ain't gonna have that much stuff. But if you know know the small cart is like it rolls everything rolling is convenient rolling is convenient. Then just get a regular cart. No. See what happens is you get the regular cart and then you feel compelled to put more things in the cart. No I don't that's why I need the small cart because the big cart looks bad when I got like three juices in it and a two liter soda in there. And that's why there's the basket. And that's what and that but I don't want to carry it. I don't want to carry it. See again lying to yourself. This is for the lazy. You don't need those. Those small carts really it's like a mini Cooper. Like why why did the mini Cooper even exist? Why what is the. It's a European car and you're in Europe they have all small cars. It doesn't save you space on parking. Because you don't need a full size parking space. It's a European car. You can't put too many Coopers in one parking space and then it would make sense. But it's a European car and in Europe they you would you would rarely find a full-size vehicle like we have in Europe. That I understand but but the term mini would imply that this can get into spots that other vehicles should not be able to but you're doing regular sized vehicle things. Have you ever tried to parallel park a mini Cooper? No I've never I've never. The only way I could drive a mini Cooper is to sit in the back seat. Let me tell you something mini Cooper mini Cooper if you parallel all those spots and you go oh I think I could get in there but oh it's too small. How much more difficult would it be to parallel park a mini Cooper versus a Civic? You could get it in the tighter spaces. But it's still a full-size space. No it's not. Not if it's like not if it's like that like I said if you got a if it's a if it's a space where like you drive your car it like it's a parallel park you got ah that's a spot right there and then you try to park it in there and you can't fit it in there just cuz your car is just too big. Mini Cooper right in there easily. So you are of the opinion that Food Lion specifically needs more of the mini the mini basket. They need more mini baskets. I mean the mini cart. They need more mini carts. I think everybody. We call them buggies where I'm from. What do they call them where you from? Carts, buggies, whatever. I got into a discussion with somebody about that because they didn't know what a buggy was and I was like they call them buggies here. It was like why do they call it a buggy? I was like I don't know it's a buggy. And they were just like oh we call it a shopping cart. I mean it's still a shopping cart. A buggy is a shopping cart. Like what is the issue? You know in the UK they call parking lots car parks. Okay. Meet me in the car park. Speaking of car park what are we talking about this week? We're bringing a terrible classic to y'all. Oh we're back. Oh we're back. Coming to y'all to a terrible classic to a movie that I have had very strong feelings about and we'll talk about this as the show goes on but we talk about Love and Basketball. A favorite of many women. So for those of you who are new to our program oftentimes myself and Larry P will legislate if a movie is terrible, a classic, or a terrible classic. We have done several films in this series. We've done Players Club, Minister Society, The Best Man, amongst others. And today we are going to talk about probably our maybe our most requested terrible classic which is Love and Basketball. And when I say most requested I mean by me. Because I think it is a clear line between who thinks this movie is good and who does not. And that is men versus women. I think most women of a certain age would describe this as a phenomenal love story and then there's the rest of us who are like this movie is not good. And even if the movie itself is good which I would argue that it's not, they would at least say but the story is good. And that's when I really start to question them. It's like why do you feel that this is a good love story? And I accidentally deleted all my notes so I'm doing this all from memory but fortunately Larry has taken detailed notes on the film. So I will let you lead and I will chime in on about the greatness and not greatness of Love and Basketball. Well you know this movie is fresh on my mind and I think this movie just um I don't even need the notes but we can just run through it. First of all this movie is made in 2000. This is a two hour, this movie is two hours and four minutes. Is it two hours and four minutes or was it that length? Oh no it is two hours and four minutes. Two hours and four minutes. I think that one thing about Love and Basketball that always got me was I was like why is this movie so long? Let's just start there because we don't, we can get back to the chronology but let's just get right there. This movie is too long. The movie's long. And one of the things that I would argue um I think people um the nostalgia of this movie where and why I can see why some people would say man I really love that movie. I think they're talking about like the first 45 minutes. From the time they are little kids up through them leaving high up through them in high school and um the uh the D'Angelo playing in the background while they're getting it in. Like that in isolation is not a terrible movie. Yeah. Everything after that though. No. I think college was alright. I think aspects of college were alright. Because I think in the college you start to see like alright you see the character development of more so Monica than you see of Omar Epps character Q. Because you see her go from being a high school basketball player that didn't get any offers that had an attitude problem going to being a humble freshman that's getting bullied by upperclassmen that worked her way into a starting lineup and just basically like worked hard at what she did. You see you see a player a person growing as a basketball player. As far as relationship wise that's where it gets a little rocky. Um if you ask me I think the movie should have been called Love or Basketball because I really think that I think it gets to a point you know let's just go ahead and fast forward to everything right. I watched this movie. I I was on the same thing with Doc saying that this is a terrible movie. I hated it and I as I watched this movie and I was watching everything as the movie went on I was realizing like you know this is a pretty decent movie. What I always griped on is the way that the movie ended. Mmm and I was like I don't think they should be together. Well it doesn't again I think that's the part where it's like this doesn't really make sense. Yeah. Um and like I could I could jump back to the beginning later but let's just go ahead and get right to the right to the meat of it because I think I went on this rant about this movie a few times. Like so they they live next to each other and I am growing up they're obviously friends when they're in high school as it was expressed that you know Q would go over and like sleep on her floor whenever his parents were arguing and then they end up going to the same college and you know they just kind of fall out in college right. Yeah. They're dating when they're freshmen in college. Yep. The movie then skips five years into the future. Mm-hmm. That Q is apparently has been bounced around from team to team in the NBA and then the coach puts him in the game when he's putting the scrubs in the game. Mm-hmm. Um probably because Omar F is 5'10 and supposedly was the lottery pick but that's his one that's a nitpick with the movie. Yeah yeah yeah I talked about that too and I was like how are you a lottery pick and he left in your freshman year declared the NBA and you have bounced around in five years like that's no what what kind of rookie contract is that? What is it like you you really shouldn't still be in the league at this point. Yeah right like he like either you should still be on you should still be at least on the team that drafted you and they're getting ready to trade you or you should be out of the league. You're also talking about a man who would have been a basketball player in the in the early 90s like this is the era of the big man. He was on the team with James Worthy. He was on the team with James Worthy. James Worthy was leaving the game and he was getting in the game. This man was on the team with James Worthy and so like this is probably like James Worthy like Vlade Divac maybe was still on the squad and he was playing when the Bulls was around. And this man is a 5 foot 10 shooting guard. He's not even a point guard. He's a shooting guard. A freaking monkey. A 5 foot 10. Yeah. I got in a debate about this. Allen Iverson is allegedly 6 feet tall. Yeah. Allen Iverson came into the league in like the mid 90s. He was out there dunking on people. Q couldn't dunk. And when he dunked on people, he was dunking on them. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He was dunking on people. He did dunk. He tore his ACL. Yeah. So, independent of that, my issue is, if fast forward 5 years in the future, Q has now found him a new fiancé. A stewardess. They seem to be making their way towards having a happy marriage. And after not seeing Monica for like 5 years or spending any time with her for 5 years, on a whim decides, hey, if you beat me in a game of basketball, I'll leave my fiancé and just be with you. Explain yourself, movie. Well, that was actually Monica's idea. And we're going to get back to the chronological order of this, but we're going to start where we are right now. The man that's 2 weeks away from getting married and said, hey, play me in basketball for your heart. She said that. That's a bold move. She made that request. Yeah. So, she said, play me in ball for your, he's like, for what? For your heart. That's a bold, a man that's about to get married 2 weeks and you say, hey, I'll play you ball for your heart. Second of all, requesting that a man that is working from a recovered ACL and say, hey, let's play a game of basketball for your heart. Wow. That is wild. That is a wild request. And you over here talking to an injured man like, oh, where you at? You balling? Oh, come on. He tore his ACL. This man tore his ACL and you quickly scored the first 2 buckets on him. Right. Quick. Right. This man is clearly not in a position where he can get into a proper defensive stance. He can't get on the balls of his feet. He can't shuffle side to side. You out here and you just driving to the basket. Driving to the basket. Are you sad that like you really doing something? Like this man is injured. Not to mention, you are a professional athlete doing this to somebody who's recovering from a torn ACL. This is not fair. This is a very, that's like me asking Floyd Mayweather saying, hey, Floyd, I will fight you for your, for you got to give me a million dollars, but you got to fight me with one arm behind your back. It's wild. That's wild. That's wild. And she asked for the whole man heart. Like, hey, you got to call the marriage off if I beat you. And, and, and of course he is so competitive that he ignores the fact that he is supposed to be rehabbing, hopefully to salvage his career, failing his failing basketball career. And what do the Lakers say? Like when they find out, reports show that Quincy McCall has re-injured his ACL. Has he re-injured his ACL while he was playing? He was playing, uh, he was playing in a competitive one-on-one game with future WNBA player, Monica, uh, what's Monica, Monica Wright. What? You took your ACL because of a girl? And not only that, not only that, I thought there was an agreement. It was like, if I win, we not getting back together. He won the game. And then he realized, I don't want to get married to Vivica A. Fox. That wasn't Vivica A. Fox, it was Tyra Banks. Tyra Banks. Whatever. Vivica A. Fox confidently too. Yeah, I knew they all the same. Uh, but yeah, yeah. And then what does that say about the WNBA? Because this, I feel like this paints a very bad picture of women's professional basketball. If one of the players in your league cannot beat a scrub NBA player with a torn ACL, like what, what is Monica? You have to be better at basketball than this. Like how, how did, how does she even lose that game? It doesn't make sense. Hands up, hands up. All he was shooting was jumpers. And why didn't she call an offensive foul when they're not calling their own fouls? Clearly he pushed up. He definitely pushed up. He gave her a hard early nineties shoulder, which would be an offensive foul. And then he dumped on her with a torn ACL. I want you to know he dumped on her with a torn ACL off her. He's five foot 10. Yeah. I really think he should have injured himself. I think he should have re-injured But, um, and then, and then said to run it back. I think he was just saying that he wanted to be with her. I don't think he actually ran it back. I hope not because he was recovering from a torn ACL. He had no business running it the first time. I mean, honestly, man, the fact that he got on the basketball court, he wasn't, he wasn't in that marriage to begin with, but Zeke McCall, he's not too far from the tree. When we come back, we will discuss the Allstate man. It's the unemployment line.