JAJ EP 9

The transcription is a conversation between three individuals discussing various topics. They talk about the Coachella performances, with Lana Del Rey's performance being criticized, and Tyler, the Creator's performance being praised. They also discuss Future and Metro's new album, which has an R&B sound, and Drake's leaked disc, which receives positive reviews. The conversation also includes some references to other artists and their music. Yo, what is up everybody? It's good to be on here with the guys. It's exciting. We have a bunch of stuff to talk about today, but let's get started. My name is Jovi. I'm Adam. And I'm Jaden. And this is the JJ podcast. That felt so weird. I'm sorry. I was going to say for everybody listening today, if I sound a little like, I'm tired. And I'm pretty sure all three of us are tired today, but we really wanted to pump out an episode for you guys this week. We are recording on a Thursday, so that's pretty exciting because we know a few people are dropping, a.k.a. Taylor Swift. And I'm hoping my boy Drake drops tonight as well, but we'll see. But a lot of things happened since we have talked on here with the Coachella performances and Metro and Future's last album, We Still Don't Trust You. But I'll let Jay get into the Coachella performances. As we know, there's a few really big artists that came out as surprise guests this last weekend. Yeah, so the performances at Coachella were great. Marlene specifically was hella excited to kind of watch them and stuff like that. So I was just chilling playing video games while she was doing her thing. I think the first night, it was Lana Del Rey who headlined, and I heard a lot of drama going on with that performance specifically. Mainly because that first night, overall, not just Lana, but that first night, the fans and the people who were there were just dead. And everyone was kind of pissed, especially with that band Sublime, I think that's what they're called. Because they were one of the performers for the first day. And I don't know if anybody's seen the clips on TikTok, but there's a couple of them where the guy's doing stuff to try to promote the crowd, get them all hyped up, just how artists normally do. And he chants something, and then he points the mic up to the crowd, and he's like, Are you guys there? It's so awkward, it's such an awkward performance. They did him so dirty. I don't know why, they were just being assholes for some reason, I don't know. But when Lana came out, of course, people were big fans of Lana Del Rey. Even Wiley and I agreed that some of her performances were off. That whole first night was so off, and it was so awkward and so weird. Mainly because of how her production was. I think Lana's performance, for me personally, watching all of them live, was definitely the weakest one in the top three headliners for the whole weekend. But she had a bunch of mic problems. She did bring up Billie Eilish, which was dope. Lana even confirmed in an Instagram post after Coachella this first weekend that she was sick, that she wasn't really feeling it, and stuff like that. So not only were the fans dead, but she was dead, her production was kind of weak, and Billie was kind of the one who saved it. So there was that. Day 2 was Tyler, the Creator's headliner. No Doubt performed as well, they brought out Olivia Rodrigo, which was kind of dope. No Doubt was a band that my mom used to listen to all the time. Same with Marlene and her mom as well. So we were both excited to hear I'm Just a Girl and stuff like that. Those songs are good. And then to see Olivia Rodrigo come out as well was fucking dope, because you really didn't expect her to show up. Especially because Billie posted something about Day 2, Round 2, and everyone was like, oh my gosh, she's going to come out again. But then Olivia came out instead, so it was dope. Tyler's performance though. Tyler, the Creator... I'm going to bring this up right now, and then we'll get into it later on. But Tyler, the Creator, deserves to be in the top 3. I've seen this TikTok. I've seen this TikTok, alright. And this TikToker is correct in many different ways. He's correct, dude. You have no idea how... Go ahead, go ahead. Tell me. I want to hear this. He is a fucking amazing performer. Nobody's doing it like him now, other than Drake, of course. You're a dickwriting man. Number one for a reason. Yeah, of course. I'm never going to not doubt that. I can lay off the whole dickwriting. The fact that he can perform really well, his lyricism is great, he can tell stories, his production, he makes his own beats, writes his own lyrics, co-collabs with many different people who deserve the collaboration, like Rex Orangetown and Kali Uchis. He knows who to group with. And it's amazing. If you go back and actually watch his performance, it's all on YouTube. All of it is so energetic, so thrilling, and so exciting. Yes, he did bring out Gambino, which was a big, big thing for everybody who's a big fan of Gambino, because we haven't seen him on stage in a while. We haven't seen him fucking put out anything. He did tease some music on this livestream, but it was so subliminal. I wasn't really rocking with it. And so I'm just hoping that the music comes out soon, because Adam's brother Matt, my cousin, sent me the link to the livestream that was going on on Instagram, and I was like, okay, I'll watch it. And it was just so off. I think it's the fact that he was listening to it in his car that was kind of weird for me. I was just like, I don't want that. I want snippets of audio. I want leaks. I want this and that. Kind of like how Drake did it recently with the whole diss. I want stuff like that. As a true fan, of course, you don't want your music artist shit leaked, because that's their money, they deserve it and all that. But at the same time, it gets you hyped up for when the actual release is coming. So when he was doing it in his car, I was just kind of meh about it. But anyways, back to Tyler. Tyler legit is not doing it like anybody else. Not Kendrick, not Cole, not anybody. This man can rap, this man can do this and that. He's in the top two for me now. After seeing that performance, I want to go see Tyler live. That's how good it was for me, because he was doing songs that are catchy, songs that he doesn't do normally, songs that he hasn't even played yet on stage. Like, Call Me If You Get Lost came out, and he hasn't performed a single one until Coachella, which was amazing. I'm just going to leave it at that. Him and Drake, top two artists. Of course, Drake, number one, for Joby. Hmm. I was going to say, I do agree. And if there's going to be a big three, which was... I mean, that was also ordered by J. Cole, and sadly, J. Cole is not in my big three. He's definitely top five, though. He's not four, he's five. He's definitely top five, yeah. I do say Tyler does do it better than Kendrick and J. Cole as of right now. Mm-hmm. So if I were to switch one of them out, I'd probably switch out Cole. If we want to keep the big three in the loop, I would definitely take out Cole for it, because Tyler, yeah, I do agree with it. Yeah, but... Speaking of diss things happening and stuff like that, Future and Metro dropped their latest album. They did like a part two, or kind of like a different set of work from We Don't Trust You with the album We Still Don't Trust You. It was very... They had like a disc one and a disc two, and disc one was very R&B. I kind of fuck with that more than anything else they put out recently, because I like R&B. I like when artists switch it up and kind of just fuck with their music and sing a little bit and have fun with it, and it sounded like what they were doing right there. I liked it a little bit. I liked disc one, but not enough to say like it was super awesome. The features on there were pretty cool. Oddly enough, they had J. Cole on a feature, which confused the shit out of me. But I was like, you know what, go ahead. Who gives a fuck? And then disc two was them just rapping and doing their usual shit, Metro and Future. It still wasn't a strong project for me, sadly, even with them doing like an R&B thing. I would say a seven out of ten. I rated their last album a six out of ten. This one would be a seven, just because of the switch up and the R&B. Very new for Future and stuff. He's only done a few R&B stuff, and it's cool to hear him do a bit more. But funny enough, what felt lacking was a Drake feature or a 21 Savage feature on an R&B song, because it's kind of hard to get away with an R&B song now without having those two artists on there, or even four bats on there, because those boys have been carrying R&B for a minute. Yeah, and then Drake disc got leaked. Jay had sent the group chat that day it got leaked. I sat back and listened to the whole thing front to back probably about like three times, and I was just like, yeah, he fucking cooked. Before I really step into what I want to say, Adam, did you give a listen to it at all? No, I didn't get the chance to. How was it? Dude, it was fucking great. Compared to the Dr. Seuss bar that Kendrick spit saying, fuck the big three, it's just big me, Drake actually spit some rhymes and brought up a few things that were controversial with a few rappers and stuff. There was even a scare with Kendrick that he had ghostwriters for the song in 95, but then the person who came out who originally wrote the song said, no, no, Kendrick wrote it. So a little iffy on that one. Wonder if he signed an NDA or got the hush money, but we'll see. But Drake really came for everyone who kind of dissed him, and it was kind of rewarding to see as a fan of Drake because he kind of came out, and instead of just like, oh, yeah, I'm the best rapper here. Oh, yeah, I'm loud. He actually came out with facts and just rapped calmly, didn't sound nervous, and he just fucking said it with his chest like, I'm not your number one fan. The first number one hit, I had to put it in your hand, referencing the future, because before that, future never had a number one hit before Drake. Came at Kendrick's neck for Kendrick being signed by Top Dog Records and having to give 50% of everything he had to Top Dog. So that's where the lines, drop and give me 50 comes from, basically. He shows his own Top Dog. 50% of it. He fucking does, yeah. And so it's even funnier because Drake can tell that to Kendrick and say, I can take 50% of your fucking shit if I wanted to. Like, don't forget who I am and don't forget who got you started, basically. And it was, I don't know, rewarding to see it because a lot of people were like, oh, Drake is not going to respond, blah, blah, blah. But I feel like if he didn't respond, it kind of leaves his legacy a little bit tainted. Obviously, people will forget about it, but it's like, oh, he never responded to Kendrick about the whole Big 3 thing, blah, blah, blah. And that would always kind of leave like a mark on him and people would always think about it like, oh, he didn't respond to this though, you know, kind of tainting his stuff. But I'm happy he did because a lot of the guys that hopped on there and started talking shit about Drake and started dissing him and, I don't know, feeling all proud about their careers and stuff, they all got their starts from Drake, including The Weeknd. I don't know why Homeboy is talking at all. I mean, Homeboy is not in the top three. Maybe he's in the top 10, if I'm being honest, as an artist. Then again, he isn't a rapper. He's more of an R&B singer. Exactly. And Drake still does the R&B shit better than him. So anyways, especially with the Take Care album, which was also influenced by The Weeknd and written, a few of them were written by The Weeknd. Even Drake had given him his flowers for doing that and to still see how fast The Weeknd switched up from everything, I was like, oh, damn, okay. But yeah, and then I think one motherfucker that shouldn't be talking at all is Rick Ross because every single hit he has had has been because of a Drake feature or he was featured on a Drake song. I mean, it's literal facts. And I like that Drake, instead of coming out there and just saying, oh, I'm the best, and pumping out his chest, kind of like what Kendrick did, Drake came out with literal stats and things that have actually happened. Instead of just using personal bias from other people, he came out and said, hey, I have literal receipts saying I'm better than all of you. Everyone can take a look at them. Google is a free, Google's free. Go look at it. I have more hits than anybody. I gave you first hit songs. I brought you to where you're at today. And you can go look at that instead of just saying I'm the best when Drake can literally provide the evidence saying he is the best and he is the number one rapper. And I won't say rapper. I'll say artist. Because no one does it like him. No one has the same amount of hits as him. I mean, Bruno Mars doesn't even have the same amount of hits as Drake. And that's a huge thing. Because Bruno Mars is a fucking goat. I just think, music-wise and stuff like that, he's been one of the most influential people that have rapped, sang, R&B. Versatility is insane. And at the end of the day, I don't think Kendrick or Cole could ever do what Drake did for the, not for the rap game, but for music in general. But yeah, that's my take. I was going to say, to be honest, I can agree with you on the fact that his influence is massive. I mean, considering you hear stuff like 4bats and all that, you hear music from The Weeknd and SZA as well. I mean, granted, they all have their own flavor of what they bring to the table. It's just like how Michael Jackson inspired Kanye West and Kanye West inspired other rappers. Kanye West inspired this. Exactly. It's just a trail of who inspired who. All of it does link back to Michael Jackson, realistically. But now, modern day, Drake definitely is... I can agree. He's so versatile in what he produces, what he performs, and even just the fact that he's not afraid to speak his mind and all that. I actually didn't like Metro's second album. It was... Let me go back to you. I hated it. I mean, the only good song on there was the one with The Weeknd. And that was it. It was floppy. Yeah, and then on top of that too, one of the things that kind of bugged me about Metro as well, was the fact that he said straight up that his album We Don't Trust You was going to be number one no matter what. But the only reason why it was number one was because of Kendrick on the bar. I mean, that's the thing. And he hates that people are saying that shit. And everyone's responding to him in the comment section, especially with the Drake diss. Oh my god, it was so funny hearing that fucking line. So funny. Shut your ass up and make some drums. That's like some peak like, just shut the hell up. You know? That's something that I look forward to in rap wars and stuff like that. Because it seriously gave me Killshot vibes. And I mean, going into that whole perspective, I loved when Killshot. That was incredible. It was amazing. It was an amazing response. It flipped everything that MGK was claiming about him and was talking shit on. He flipped it all back on them. And it was exactly what Drake did to everyone else. He did it to Metro. He did it to The Weeknd. He even called The Weeknd gay. I was kind of like, what the hell? I was kind of taken back by it. I was taken back by it. I mean, I get why he called him that because I don't know, every time Metro needs something, we're doing one right there. Oh, he said he said he's doing stuff for these men that they would do that we do for girls. Like, basically, shut up. Like, I think something like that. I can't remember exactly what he said. Basically calling him the best man for his managers and for Metro Boomin, basically. Whenever Metro needs you, you're always right there, ready to unbuckle his pants and do something for him. One thing, though, I did want to bring up regarding the jerk diss. Again, it was fucking amazing. I'm never going to not doubt that this man is in the top three because he is insane. I'm not going to glaze him up like how everyone else does, but I will say he's incredible and he's amazing. And I actually like his music. But, I will say that I think Kendrick might be baiting him. This was brought up in the Joe Budden podcast. I don't know if you've seen it yet, Joby, what I'm talking about. But in the Joe Budden podcast, they were listening to the diss, and he kept referring to himself as the king, of course, obviously. He has his direct, not direct relation, but his claims that he's as big as Michael Jackson, which I agree to. But, Budden was saying, and he kind of has a good point, is if Kendrick wants to go crazy and go all out for the diss, which, I don't know when the fuck he's going to drop that because, I mean, at this point, I think we're just safe to say that he's not ever going to drop it. If he drops it, he's literally going and doing what Drake told him to do, drop and give me 50. I don't think he's going to drop it, but if he does, and if he wants to, he can come at Drake with some crazy shit, allegations and all that, like the whole Millie Bobby Brown and all that. I don't know if you guys have heard of anything like that, but way back when, way back when, Drake was very, I don't know, kind of iffy with... Iffy in the sense that, like, I don't want to get cancelled and talk about it directly, but... That sounds iffy. He was very weird with Millie Bobby Brown. I mean, it was said that in interviews, she was very private about what they talked about and stuff like that when she was younger. This was way before she was 18, and this is when she barely started in Stranger Things and all that. And Drake was in her DMs talking to her, all that. Nobody knows what they talked about and all that. And like, yeah, it could be innocent, but it's just the same claim as Michael Jackson as well, where he, you know, like the accusations and the allegations against him were all very, you know, weird, but Michael claims it was innocent. Just like how Drake and Millie would claim it would be innocent. But what I'm trying to say is that Kendrick can literally flip a bar and be like, you know, just straight calling him out for it. And, you know, he could pull up the allegations from back then and compare him to Michael Jackson in that sense. And he could even say something along the lines of how Drake said there's a difference between Mike then and Mike now. Mike then was loved, and Mike now is kind of, like, everyone's kind of on the fence about him still. Even though he's passed on, you know? So, that would be a crazy bar to flip. Kendrick can go all out, but then again at the same time, it's also disrespecting Michael Jackson in a way too. So, I don't know. It's definitely an all over the place type of thing that could happen. I mean, Drake did a he addressed like the Millie, Barbie, Brown stuff in his album For All The Dogs saying, weirdo's calling me a weirdo because I was talking to a, I think he said Millie, get your head out of the gutter, or something like that. Like, people always tend to think the worst of you, or like, you know? So, he kind of already addressed it. I was watching Aiden Ross, and Aiden Ross was like, yeah, he can say that, but also Drake has brought it up already. And now we're kind of just like, oh, Drake's already addressed this. Why bring this up again? Because now he's just bringing it up, you know? It would hit way harder if Drake never addressed it. And just like, Kendrick goes like, oh, yeah, you were talking to so and so, blah, blah, blah. But Drake's already, like, on a previous album was like, oh, yeah, that happened. Okay, nothing ever really came out of it, so, now what? What are you guys going to say about me now? What are you guys going to hate on me now for? Basically. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like how Em always talked about how, like, what are you going to say now? Like, are you going to bring up my skin color? Are you going to bring up the fact that I'm white? Are you going to bring up the fact that, like, I spit faster than you? Are you going to bring up the fact that I have the same beat? And stuff like that, you know? Like, if you're going to bring something up, you can't bring up the same stuff that you already heard again. Exactly. And I think that was kind of a little smart by Drake, because I guess that, yeah, it kind of was weird. I'll agree with that. But then people forget that Drake was a young, he started off as a young actor, and was probably just like, hey, like, heads up. Maybe he was trying to just give her a heads up on, like, hey, these people are weird, don't talk to these people. Kind of like doing something people had done for him, basically. I'm pretty sure Justin Bieber is the same way with young actors and young artists. I mean, he was talking to the Kid LAROI when the Kid LAROI was not even 18, and Bieber was right there. But I guess it's because she's a female, everyone's tripping about it. Yeah. But, yeah. I don't know. I'm just trying to, like, think of the most positive outcome, because I'm his fan. It could have been like, hey, like, watch out for these people. I know you're a young actor, but, like, watch out for this producer, watch out for this guy. Make sure you don't talk to this person. Kind of like what Nickelodeon stars could have been doing for the younger co-stars now. Yeah. I feel like there's a very big gap in relations. Like, they have very different lives. I mean, not to, like, assume I'm guilty. It's just an interesting scenario to look at. Yeah, it really is. Like, you, like, looking at it, like, from, like, an outsider's point of view, no matter what, it looks weird. And, like, yeah, you can think the best of it, but at the same time, with everything that's come out so far recently about, like, all of Nickelodeon and some of Disney's cast and some of Disney's crew and stuff like that, you know, you never know what could have been going on. So it's scary. You know, it's really scary. Mhm. My bad. My mic kind of, like, timed out on me. Huh. I think I lost my fucking train of thought. What was I gonna say? Oh, I was gonna say, I like how that's always brought up a lot, but no one ever brings up the fact that Cardi B actually used to drug men and sleep with them or take their money. No, dude, that's the one thing that I always bring up to people who are, like, massive fans of her. Like, I get, you know, like, her music's kind of poppin'. Some of her songs are pretty good. But, like, she's bad. I mean, you can also bring up the fact, you know, like, yes, he did apologize, but Kanye is also a pretty good bad guy, too. There's a lot of bad people in the music world in general. Yeah, I mean, I just think it's funny whenever someone brings up stuff about, like, Drake, like, oh, he did this, oh, he did that. It's like, oh, why don't we talk about, like, Cardi B actually, like, kind of, like, raping men, for a change, or I love Kanye, but how about we talk about Kanye literally hating Jewish people? Like, let's take a breather real quick and talk about, you know, way worse things that have happened, and this is one of the things that are unconfirmed. We have things that are confirmed lying in front of our faces, and we should listen to these artists. I mean, Chris Brown, I don't care if I catch flack for this, Chris Brown beat the living shit out of Rihanna, and people still go listen to that man and bang out his concerts. It's the same. Yeah. I mean, a lot of these people, realistically, like, especially if they're confirmed, especially if they're confirmed, I don't think they deserve a platform at all. Like, I think, once you're canceled, you should just never come back, but I mean, that's not who people are, and it's stupid, like, seriously, and I feel like Cardi B's one of those people who can definitely be like, oh, you know, fuck cancel culture and stuff like that, like, I'm me now, like, I've changed, but you've, like, there's shit that you've done, you know? Same thing with Kanye. Like, seriously, like, I'm an old Kanye fan, where, like, he was, like, where he was in his prime, early 2000s, you know, that type of stuff. Like, graduation. And graduation. I just can't do it now, you know? I can't. I get you. It's just not, like, some of the songs are pretty good, like I said, but overall, like I said, people don't deserve platforms if they're gonna be like that. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I think Drake handled a, basically, 8v1 very well, considering the song, as of right now, the lead song is only about 4-5 minutes, so he cooked them in 4-5 minutes, and all those boys needed about 2 albums to do the same to him. Yep. So, yeah, and then, I'm gonna talk about this, A$AP Rocky, shut the fuck up, dude. You have not done anything for rap in years, and people don't even know you as a rapper anymore, they know you as Rihanna's baby daddy and her husband, so shut the fuck up. Yeah, I think so. He said, that's like a way to first song, basically saying that, like, he, you know, did it with Rihanna and stuff like that. It's just, I don't know. She's a great artist, don't get me wrong, but everyone's tapped out in the music industry, and I like to think, more than the people that I know have probably hit that in the music industry, if we're being honest. Oh, man. I find it really funny, though, Jovi, I'm gonna find it really funny, I'm letting you know this right now, I'm hoping you're keeping this part in, but if any of this, any of this proves to be false, that Rihanna selected Drake, and you have so much glaze over him for that specific reason? Why are we treating him with glaze? Because that's what Jovi does, and I respect him for it, because I'm the same way with Usher, but at least I know when Usher's bad, so. I mean, but Drake's not bad, though, so. Some songs, yes, some albums, yes. Not a full album, though. I said album, not album. I mean, name one bad one, off the top of your head. What's the one with all the pregnant lady emojis? That's how bad it was. Certified Loverboy? I hated that fucking album, it was so bad. Worst one out of all of them. Uh, yeah, I will say that's the weakest album he has, but it also did huge numbers against any other artist, so. I will say it's the weakest. It's Call of Duty. It's gonna do numbers, because people are gonna play the game. And it's Call of Duty, it's a constant cycle of the same shit over and over again. I will say it's the weakest, but then again, it has Knife Talk, I Miss You Too with Kid Cudi, it has Poppy's Home with Nicki Minaj, I mean, there's a lot of really good songs on there, Champagne Poetry, I mean, I would say it's a bad album, I would say it's a bad album, but, I don't know, the replay value, when I go back to play it, that's how I define if an album is bad or not. If I can still listen to it all the way through, without, like, less than two skips, then I consider it a pretty good album. And for me, the replay value for that is really good. Um, I wish I could say the same for Kendrick's Mr. Morale and the Big Seppers. Oh, that album, that's nice. The replay value, I just, I remember hearing it for the first time, Adam, I was closing, I think it was with you, and I was closing and I was listening to it, I was having a good old time, I think I was dancing in the popper and you asked me what was going on. Uh, probably. Probably happened a few times. Yeah. Um, I liked it the first time, don't get me wrong, and then I went to go back to listen to it, I think, like, last year or previously, before, like, all the dissing happened, and I could, like, I could, like, honestly, I could barely get through it. I don't know if my music taste has just changed, but N95 and a few of the other ones were, like, only the few I could listen to without, like, like, okay, I'm gonna turn this shit off. Yeah, I agree. That album was not Kendrick. I, like, that, for me, had to have been his worst one. There's only two songs on there that are actually good. Yeah. I don't know. But, um, what were we talking about before this? I don't remember what happened. Uh, there was some Rihanna slang, dude. Yeah, that, no, but that's what I was saying, like, if all of this turns out to be fake about Rihanna, dude, you're gonna get so much shit for it. So much shit, and I'm gonna laugh. I mean, I told you, bro, like, don't believe everything Drake says, man. That wasn't Drake that said it was Eminem. Wait, Em said? I mean, I know Em has, but I don't think he's... Unless he's talking to him, like he normally does. I don't remember what it was exactly in, but he did say Drake hit it. I forget who he was trying to get at. I don't know if it was Rihanna, but, um, he did say it. I remember him. If I could look at the song right now, I will. Maybe I'll send it into the group chat later. But, yeah, I remember I was like, what the fuck? Are you sure it wasn't the diss towards MGK about the whole Rihanna thing? No, because that one, Eminem said he hit it. I don't know exactly the song. I'll look for it, though. Supposedly as well, too, going into Rihanna, she is... God, I don't know how many times people have said this shit, but she has music ready with her husband to go out. And I don't know when she's going to release it, because like I said, they've said so many times, Rihanna's releasing on this day. Rihanna's releasing at this time. Rihanna's going to do it on this day. Rihanna's going to do it this month. No, it's never come out. She's definitely having to do a collab album with ASAP, because we all know if they release an album at the same time, she would outsell the living shit out of them, and Drake would never let them live it down. He's probably not going to let it down. Still, because, you know, he has to do a collab album. He has to get an album with your wifey to make sure your sales weren't below anybody else's. No hate to Rihanna, though. Going back, no hate to Rihanna after everything you just said. You fuck. I mean, yeah. I mean, I hate MGK. I used to hate MGK. I used to talk the most shit about him. And now, like, I listen to him. You know, opinions change. I was going to say that, going back to me talking about Gandino, he did confirm that he's releasing two albums. One of them is going to be just an album like he normally releases. But the other one, he's actually producing a movie, which I'm pretty excited about. I don't know. I don't remember what the albums are called. But I'm pretty excited for them. Speaking of upcoming albums as well, I appreciate Billy's album as well, because that one's coming out. And I'm excited for that one. Taylor is dropping tonight. That's a huge one, which makes me... Yeah? Is it out already? It's out. It's up for you guys right now. By the time you guys are listening to this, Taylor's album will have already been out. We're definitely going to give it a listen and talk about it as well next episode. One thing that I do want to bring up to both of you guys, I feel like we are running out of ideas. Mainly because we talk about kind of the same stuff over and over again, like I've been saying. But I think we should do... And this is just an idea. This is for the audience as well to listen to. And maybe Jovi can throw a poll out as well, depending on the flag that we get back from it. Or the response that we get back from it. How would you guys feel about doing artist-focused episodes? I like the idea of it, because we can delve deep into their whole discography and just talk about that one specific person the whole time. That would be heavy research. Well, that's the whole point. We have to do our homework in order to actually expand our taste, expand other people's taste and stuff like that. Give people insight and facts. If we did a whole Drake episode, Jovi would know him front to back already, so we'd have that down in the bag. I could talk for like two hours. Yeah, exactly. Or we can narrow it down to an hour. Yeah, sure. I like the idea, yeah. I think we can try one artist per episode and stuff like that. The only thing I'd be scared of doing is running out of time. Not running out of time, not having enough time. Because we can talk about one artist and we get through everything and then it could be like a 30-minute. I think when it comes to that, we can do two artists, you know? Yeah, if they're a little smaller and they don't have a huge discography, I mean, if we can break down songs, not just break it down, but like if we can break down an album and what the story's about and stuff like that. Because I feel like that's interesting. Just kind of like how, going back to Tyler, his whole Igor album, there's two different meanings when you listen to it forward and when you listen to it backwards. So I feel like those are kind of interesting things to talk about as well. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's something we can definitely get into. I think it'd be fun. Adam, what are you feeling? Huh? I started hella right there. As in? As in the artist-focused episodes. Yeah, we can do that. I think it'd be cool, realistically, I mean, Adam, for instance, what if we did a whole episode on Rex Orange County? His whole discography is his whole come-up, basically. His first album to now, his story, his change in production, his change in lyricism, his change in storytelling, his change in music. What each album could be focused on, what could it be about, how could it be interpreted? My concern would probably be that you guys have very different focused artists than I do, so I can just see myself falling behind constantly, but if I just listen to the highlights and whatever their most popular stuff is, I'm sure I'll be alright. I think, though, that it kind of would fall under the same thing as us with you as well. We're not going to choose the artist based on me and Jovi against Adam. It's going to be like, Adam chooses an artist and I choose an artist for the next week. We dive in together and we listen together. That's the homework, basically. We listen to their whole discography if we can. We could do it. Legitimately, it doesn't take that long to listen to an album. You can do it in a day. Like, a day, an album. That type of thing. I'm sure we can take it the easy route and find some more mutual artists in the start so that we get a nice feel for it. Yeah. I agree. Oh, my voice cracked right there. Holy shit. I agree. Make sure it doesn't break. I agree. Yeah. I definitely think that'd be a lot of fun. I do feel less running out of steam right now. I think we're out of shit to talk about as of right now. Adam, is there anything in particular you wanted to bring up about the Drake disc and Metro Boomin? All of them kind of singling in on Drake. How do you feel about all of that? I think all of us kind of have a rough kind of thing about what's going on with them. Not rough, but we're all kind of understanding what's going on with them. How do you feel about that? I know it's a rough subject considering you don't listen to a lot of rap, but as an outsider's perspective of it, not really listening to the mainstream stuff, how do you feel about the whole disc thing going on with the rap industry? That was a long question. I mean, it's kind of hard to acknowledge and take in everything that they're arguing about. I feel like that's just what those artists do nowadays. They just constantly throw mud at each other and they catch it and throw it back. I don't know. It's not necessarily what I'm looking for when I look into music. I know there's a lot into it and context and stuff you've got to look for. I feel like I'm more of the individual song. I try to look for that individual song, just kind of find stuff I like and then I'll go to another artist and pick songs and stuff like that. So I never really focus too much about their career, their beef, all that they have going on. I don't really acknowledge or pay attention to any of that. So I kind of just listen to their stuff and obviously a lot of stuff's going on so there's going to be talking points about certain artists and stuff. So I'll keep up with that but I don't go digging, trying to find what's going on or too much. It's too overwhelming. So I like to just listen to music and see what I like. More of the initial feel for how I feel about it rather than like, okay, what he said to that guy was very mean. I like that kind of thing. It's like everything is apart too much rather than a vibe or something chill. You're explaining the whole beef in the best way, honestly. Because realistically it's just something to divide people again. And I agree with you on that front, seriously. Yeah, this beef is fun but I am tired of it. Especially because it's getting boring now with just dissing each other back and forth on Instagram. This isn't an Instagram beef, it's a music thing. But I was... I was going to say I'm all for that kind of stuff, but like I said, it's just boring. Overall, when it keeps happening over and over again, when the same stuff is being talked about over and over again. And the glazing is happening over and over again. It's just like, okay, we get it. Move on. That's just how I feel about it now. Yeah, it's too complicated. I think it's funny. I missed like a month or two ago when Save Noah Khan was really popular and his hip season was blowing up and he was just all on the toxic. I feel like that was such a nice, like, calm, peaceful time. Like, really chill, like vibe-y music. Everyone was just kind of it felt like we were getting along. And now that everyone's just kind of beefing over music right now it's kind of weird to go into music looking for the beef that I'm trying to... I don't know. It's not my vibe. Nah, I get it though. In literal... In literal sense, it says three grown-ass men having a battle about who's the better artist, better rapper, when it's relatively just comes down to bias or numbers. You know? Yup. Bias, numbers, and then like the fact that they're all pushing almost 50. That's fucking crazy. Give the younger guys a chance now. Just like how you were saying, Joby. Like J.I.D., Baby Keen, all those guys, you know. I want them now. I'm tired of these old guys. Yeah. It's exciting to hear them kind of voicing their sounds now without having to be so heavily influenced by the rappers who are currently having a hissy fit over everything. I think this thing is funny. It's kind of a cool way to debate and have fun with debating. Debating doesn't have to be necessarily like a fuck you, this, this, and that. This rapper is better. It doesn't have to be like that. It's fun to talk about your music taste and why you think certain things are the way they are. I think it's kind of like just it's fun. Yeah. I know there's a whole creative aspect to the roast and arguing and all that. I know there is that value and there is that depth. It's just not my thing to do. But I know it is very intricate. I'm sure they spend their hours trying to come up with lines just for you to react. Because it works. It's good stuff. I don't look too hard into it like that. It's definitely there though. I know they have some really cool parts and there's some good stuff in there. Totally. I think every artist does the same for fans and stuff like that. I think it's always heavily for the fans. Because if Drake wanted to, he could have just made that diss and just very up front and aggressive and mean. And he made it into what he usually does. A hit song. Very catchy. Very toony. It has a hook and everything. You wouldn't expect that in a diss. But it has a hook to the song. The Drop and Give Me 50. It even has a small little R&B part in the middle of it. I think that's what it's fun to listen to. Even with Metroboom in the future, to have a big artist like Kendrick come on, it's always exciting to hear rappers come on. It's fun. The artists usually pick things up, maybe for themselves sometimes, but also for a reaction out of the audience. I think that's what's going on here as well. I feel like the whole section of music is more community based. They're all very well fluent with each other when it comes to having conversation and the way that they interact and make music together. They work together a lot in order to keep working together. They also have to fight each other in order to keep that momentum going. Definitely my stuff is more individual. I look for just that one piece. You guys have a sense of universe when you guys listen to your music. There's this character talking about this character. They're talking bad about each other. That's interesting. That's how you guys see it. I do see how there is that interest. Maybe I just haven't fully gotten into it the way I should have. Maybe I should look into it more. Personally, for me, it's such a big deal. I grew up on these three rappers. They have all perfected their game. They've definitely stepped up and done so many things for the rap community and stuff like that. To see them all going for each other's necks is like, whoa, you guys are friends. It feels like Captain America Civil War. You watch these characters growing up and to see them see Captain America and Iron Man going fist to fist, that's what it feels like when you grow up off something. To see the people that were buddy-buddy to go for each other's necks, that's what it feels like for me watching Captain America going into the Drake and Kendrick beef. I love both of these guys, but holy shit, they're actually fighting and this is insane. That's how I see it, though. That movie was fucking traumatizing for me. I hated seeing that shit. Imagine how I feel about this whole rap shit. Fucking PTSD. I remember watching that movie and I was so excited for it. I was like, Spiderman's going to be in this. Captain America and Iron Man are going to be decking it out. Bucky, Black Panther are going to be the fucking... Oh my god, I was so excited. But then when I watched that final scene with Cap and Tony just duking it out, a part of me was just like, hey, I don't like this. I'm kind of... Why do I feel like my parents are fighting? God. It's hard to watch, but I think that's what makes it so good. It's uncomfortable, but it's like you can't take your eyes off the screen when it's happening because you're like, what the fuck is going to happen? The one thing that I will say about this shit is I just hope it doesn't end up with anybody in a body bag. I swear. That's the one thing. Think about what happened with Jason S. Think about what happened with Tupac and Biggie. I don't want to see that. I don't. Because these guys deserve their flowers as much as possible before they get old and retire. I'm not a big Drake fan, but he deserves what he gets. He deserves all of his respect. All of his... All the good shit that people say about him. Same thing with Kendrick, same thing with Eminem, same thing with J. Cole. All these people, I feel like they deserve it. My biggest thing is I just don't want to see people in a body bag. I don't. The whole XXXTentacion shit and then the same thing with Tupac and Biggie, like I said. It's exactly what... I don't know if you guys have seen the whole Ice Cube interview where he's talking about the Beast and he said it too. He said it too. It happens in the rap game, especially because music is such a competitive sport. It really is. Not just rap, but R&B and all this music. People who are not just doing it for fun, but having careers and jobs off of it. People are looking at numbers and they want to be bigger. They want to have all these things. That's my thing. I don't want people to end up dead with all this shit. Nobody deserves to die. I agree. Yeah, I figured I just thought more as like a playful nudging aggressively just in order to keep their music going, but I guess people do take it way too seriously. Some people do take it really seriously. Just like people at a baseball game. People at any type of sporting event take anything way too seriously. I love how the 49ers trash on the Raiders so much. I know we suck, but you don't gotta put it in my face. I get it. That's why I laughed when they lost. I didn't want either of those fucking teams to win. I was going for the Niners at the end of the day. That's why I still laughed. At the end of the day, I was still going to say, fuck the 49ers. I was never going to celebrate their win, but I was definitely going to celebrate their loss. Whatever team lost, I was going to celebrate. It was a win-win for me. It's a win-win. For me, it was a win-win, kind of a lose-lose. It was a weird category because I hate... I was going to say, as much as I hate Patrick Mahomes and the whole Chiefs team, I can't deny that he's one of the greatest quarterbacks to come out of the Tom Brady era because he does his fucking thing and he can win Super Bowls. My quarterback can't fucking do that and neither can the Niners quarterback do that, let's be honest. Choking every game. Yeah. But... That's how I see these little... I guess this is... It's just... It's cool to talk about, but to make it your personality is like, what are you taking it to for? Yeah. That's not a real word. Yeah. I think last Super Bowl... Well, no, not the last one, but the last one with the Chiefs and the Niners that after the game, you know, obviously the Chiefs had won that game back in, I think, 2019, 2020, one of those the Niners had lost and there was a Chiefs player in the bathroom and there was two Niner players... Not Niner players, Niner fans that walked in on the Chiefs fan while they were in the bathroom and the Niner fans beat the living shit out of the Chiefs fan. And I was like, whoa, chill. But I mean, I think that happens everywhere, sadly. Yeah, it's all fans, dude. It sucks. All fans of anything. Yeah, let's hope that never gets to it, especially with this beef. Yeah. I think we're good to end it here. Yeah, it was a fun one. I'm excited to see what we're going to start cooking up with in the next few episodes and I'm excited to see you guys pretty soon. I know I keep saying that every episode, but it's becoming more and more of a reality every time I hop on here because a whole week has passed and it just keeps getting closer, but I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited to see what we come up with when we all get to be together in person either. It's going to be really bad or really good. We'll see. Probably unproductive, but we'll see how it goes. Very. We're definitely going to take some time to spend time with each other and actually see each other because it's really been a long time. Too long. Way too long. All right, we'll end it on that note. But all right, before we head out, I want to say thank you to all of our listeners. You guys have been doing great keeping up with us and staying in touch with us, letting us know what you guys like, what you guys want to hear more of. It's great to have that support, especially since we're a smaller podcast and we're just doing our best to have fun on here and make you guys laugh and just have fun. I think that's the general thing we're trying to do here is just have fun with you guys and hang out with y'all. But it's been fun. Before we close it out tonight, guys, anything you guys want to say? No, just thanks for sticking around with us. Send us anything you guys recommend or anything you've found. Please, because I'm running out of music. We'll make a poll or something. I'll do it tomorrow morning. I like the enthusiasm. All right, you guys, it's been fun. I'm going to go listen to that Taylor Swift album and see how that goes. Yeah. Oh, nice. But all right, with that, I've been Jovi. All right, I've been Adam. And I've been Jaden. Go listen to Taylor Swift after this. I don't know if you guys have an idea or not, but cookies. All right. Good night, guys. Peace, y'all.