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Welcome to Above Our Pay Grade, the podcast where we deep dive into career advice that's real, raw, and relevant. This is episode number one, and today we're talking about our number one strategy for growth. My name is Doug Ferencvast, and I'm joined by my co-hosts, Alex David and Ronan Campbell. We are three managers that wanted to peel back the mysteries of how to drive your success with an unfiltered view from our collective experience and insights. Don't forget to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and follow us on social media so you don't miss out on anything new. For this first episode, we wanted to come out swinging, so let's jump into it. Ronan, why don't you tee it up for us and let us hear what your number one strategy is? Excellent points. I like some components of what you're saying, and some of them I want to challenge a little bit, Ronan. The first one is you use the term mentor, and then you use the term opponent. I really like this concept of an opponent, but a mentor doesn't really strike me visually or mentally as an opponent, somebody that you're chasing after, somebody that you are trying to overcome or be better than. In a lot of cases, when we about the paths of life, your mentor is probably much further ahead than you are, and so overcoming them might be quite the uphill battle. Is it true, then, in your perspective that a mentor could still be an opponent? If so, how does that influence your conversations with them as you move through time and you get better and you start to want to overcome them? Or do you have other opponents in your mind that you're trying to overcome? Okay, interesting. How do you identify your smarter opponent? What is this exactly, and how do you identify them and go through the path of trying to either emulate them or seek them out for advice or whatever other thing you have to do to get yourself to that position? So walk me through that, right? Because one thing that I've seen happen with people that have kind of come to me for consultation or mentorship, right, is they identify the person that they think that they'd like to connect in with, that might have that skill or resource that they're lacking, but when they try to engage with them, they're actually not as open to it as others. So how do you overcome that barrier between identifying somebody and actually engaging with them? And then how do you bridge the gap if they're not as open to it? Okay, so how do you bridge the gap between identifying somebody and actually engaging with them? And then how do you bridge the gap if they're not as open to it? And then how do you bridge the gap between identifying somebody and actually engaging with them? So if I were to just summarize that for you, initiate the person, right, build trust in your area and around them, you know, and then continue the engagement. But if they don't want to, move on. Right. And hey, listen, maybe it becomes even that much more sweeter if you overcome or surpass your opponent, right, when they weren't that open to, you know, helping you through your journey. Awesome. I'm not sure if Alex, sorry, I was just going to say I'm not sure if Alex was pointing to us as competitors or opponents they're running. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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