Q3-19890501-Larry_Rosenberg-UNK-anapanasati_full_awareness_of_breath_series_tape_12-33815 Leandra Te

Talk: 19890501-Larry_Rosenberg-UNK-anapanasati_full_awareness_of_breath_series_tape_12-33815 Leandra Tejedor Start_time: 00:15:27 Display_question: It seems to me that to be with the breath, in, and around physical sensations, depersonalizes them. Keyword_search: ananta, pain, feelings, emotions, thoughts, identifications Question_content: Questioner: It seems to me that to be with the breath, in, and around physical sensations, depersonalizes them. That you are much more likely to be able to get… Larry: When you? Questioner: When you the breath is just right there next, and then something else happens, and then it’s the vibration, or whatever it is. Larry: It’s less likely to be mine… Questioner: Less likely to be mine. Larry: Exactly. Questioner: There's less space somehow, filled up with that kind of thinking. Larry: Exactly. The breath is… once you get to learn to use this, it's a way of short circuiting all these identifications, and you'll really start to understand, ananta. You'll start to see that everything's just happening, and no one owns it. The process is happening. And the breath is one way to help you do that. It's help you to see that, it's just feelings. What are happening right now is, feelings. Painful feelings are happening. It's not saying it's an imagination, a hallucination. There are painful feelings. And by staying with the breath, it minimizes that getting lost in it. Is that what you're… absolutely. And that's, I would say, a central way in which it's supposed to help us. Great. That's what we're supposed to be. How it's valuable. Break_line: See, it minimizes unnecessary thinking. And of course, two of the most unnecessary thoughts in one sense are, I, and mine. This is my knee that hurts. Poor me, I hate this. And soon I'm getting out of here. And soon, I'm driving in my car, away from that center, that made me have a painful body. And soon you're out of the practice altogether. Questioner: The same thing is true of emotional pain. Larry: Yes. Questioner: And to piggyback on what you were saying two minutes ago, and your comment on it, and in being with one another, with emotional pain, which is what I do all day, being with people, and having the breath be there, it really gives the emotional pain the space to be there. Larry: You're talking about other people's emotional pain. Questioner: Yes. Well, I'll go back to where you were with the first comment. Okay. There's own emotional pain. It refers to what Sarah was saying. It's the same thing as physical pain. Larry: Yes. Questioner: And then, to go back to what you were saying previously, in being with someone else, and it goes back to the conversation you were having about blocking things out, rather than opening, and softening, to them. And at least for me, when I'm very aware of breath being there, when I'm sitting with someone, and there's tremendous emotional pain, it allows that just to be there. Larry: Well, I'm back to the same question. I think I'm hearing you. I hope so. They're having emotional pain, right. Now what the breath will help you to do, is for your response, the way you Questioner: You mean not to block it. Larry: Yeah. In other words, to allow you to receive their emotional pain, perceive it. Questioner: And to allow it to be there. And what happens increases the connectedness among us. Between us or among us, which is opening for all of us. Larry: Yeah. It's like the restaurant situation. That is, if everyone stayed open to everyone, we all would have had a better time. Questioner: Exactly. End_time: 00:18:43