ITS a nashville thing..RUNTHROUGH 1 - 10-15-25_1 (1)

The transcription is a conversation about the speaker's experience of moving to Nashville, meeting and marrying her husband shortly after arriving. She shares details about manifesting her partner, their first meeting at a bar where she worked, and how they connected despite initial uncertainties. The conversation also touches on dating dynamics, personal growth, and reflections on relationships. The speaker's journey from California to Nashville, her music career, and the unexpected love story are central themes discussed. The dialogue veers into broader topics of dating, relationships, and societal perceptions. We're going to talk about all things dating, which connects with love, and we're going to talk about all things dating, which connects with lifestyle in Nashville, which we always talk about. I dated one guy in Nashville and got married. Yes. So we have Ida here, who is our married, married Nashvillian. I know. I moved here and then met my husband, well, my now husband, a month after I moved here. And yeah, that's my dating story. Now we're married. There's way more to that. There's actually so much to that story, like it's the most unbelievable, crazy, like unrealistic story ever. He didn't even live here. He moved here for you. Yeah. He was visiting. He was recording music and visiting. And this was back in 2021, April, 2021. I had just moved to Nashville a month prior. No job, no friends, no money, no housing, like nothing. Everyone's like, you're so brave. And I was like, um, I was just adventurous. Like it was fun. I was like, I have no idea if I'm going to have a house tomorrow. Like, am I going to live out of my car with my pets? Like, no idea. So I ended up back in, what is that? Oh, that's the vet. Okay. So back in LA, I worked in TV. Yeah. Chris? Chris? Did he leave? Chris? Chris? Yeah. Can you tell him the air is on? Yeah, it gets so hot in this room. Yeah. Hold on. Hold for sound. Okay. So should we clap? Should we start? No, we're still recording. Okay. So we only need to do that if we restart. Yeah. Which we will when your camera ends. So yeah, I was living in LA for 11 years before I moved here. I was working in TV, film, music, lost my job. I was living with my mom. She downsized. I was living on a mattress on the floor and I'm like, oh, you're 28 years old. You're supposed to be sleeping on a mattress in your mom's kitchen. And so I moved to Vegas, was in Vegas for like a week and hated it. And then I moved to Nashville and I took this bar job that like I really just didn't want to do, but everything was still closed down. So I took this bar job and that's where I met my husband. He walked in one day. He actually walked into my coworker's section and my coworker was busy training a new bartender. And I was like, Hey, how's it going? What can I get you? You know, he's like hot chicken waffles in the old fashioned. So I ID him. Hot chicken waffles in the old fashioned. At 2pm on a Thursday too. Like what are you doing? Which was so him back then I guess. He's sober now. But, um, but yeah, I remember the order and he has a California ID and I was like, no way, I just moved from California. And he's like, oh, I'm here to record music. And I was like, no way. I'm a singer too. You know, and then we start talking. And what he didn't know is that I manifested him. Yeah. Back in 2019. But also there's something else you didn't know. Oh, you didn't see my face. Yeah. I always forget that part. You just saw your beautiful eyes. I was wearing a mask the whole time we met and he didn't actually see my first, my full face until our first date. So I could have had jacked up teeth or all kinds of stuff. He was just, it's kind of like that funny meme that's going around right now. Like the guy with the beard, like these guys with the beards and it's like, have you seen him without a beard yet? Like there's that one guy on Instagram that talks about like, you shouldn't marry a guy unless you've seen him without a beard yet. Or like hat fishing. Have you heard of hat fishing? Oh, where they look good in a hat. And as soon as they take the hat off, they're like, I don't know if you've heard that. But yeah, that's a thing. So he saw you without a mask on the first date? On the first date, yes. But what he doesn't also know is that I manifested him. Cause in 2019, I was really sad going through a breakup and I told everyone, they thought I was crazy, but I told everyone I'm going to move to Nashville one day and I'm going to date a country singer. And I moved to Nashville two years later. And a month after that, started dating a country singer. And then married him. So the main question here is obviously from California. It's been a huge movement from Californians here. So why did you choose Nashville? I didn't. I chose Vegas. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I moved to Vegas first. I just hated Vegas so much while I was there. And I was like only there a week. And what did you say again about Nashville? I liked it better than Vegas. But like, what, how did you hear about Nashville? Like what put Nashville on the map for you? Oh, back, back in like 2018, 2019, there was like, Nashville's got really popular. Maybe from that TV show, Nashville, but like everyone was talking about moving to Nashville back then. I didn't. I didn't know about Nashville. Really? No. I only found out about Nashville like right before COVID. I didn't even know this place existed. I didn't even care. I was so California. That's crazy. Yeah. I heard so much about Nashville. They're like, oh yeah, Nashville's amazing. There's music. And I was like, okay, like I do music, which actually wasn't a good move for my music career. I was so much more successful in LA with my music career than I am in Nashville. Here, it's like actors in LA. There are a dime a dozen and no one really gives you the time of day because everyone's like, pick me, pick me, pick me. But in LA, no one did music really. So it was really easy for me to work with people because it was such a small group of people that all they wanted, they were just hungry to work. And your genre. Your genre of music, it's not country. Or is it country too? So my old stuff, no. And then there's new stuff I've been working on. It's kind of like if Lana Del Rey made a country track. I don't even know what to call it. But it's basically sad music. Like if you want to cry, that's what you're going to put on. So here we have you who moved to Nashville from California, meets a guy immediately. Were you looking for a guy? Were you looking to get married? Were you looking to have babies? Was that even in your... Where was your thought? Where was your mindset when you came to Nashville regarding dating? What's your question there? I mean, you said you manifested you wanted me to come to Nashville and meet a country singer. But knowing you, I know it's a slightly different version of that as well. Right? Or no? Like, what do you mean? Were you coming here with the intention of like, I'm going to date and meet a country star? Or were you coming here like, I'm going to try and figure it out? No, I was just in survival mode at that point. I'm sure like, if I didn't meet Chris, it would have been down the line. But moving here with just nothing and having two pets and like trying to find a job, trying to find friends, trying to make sure you pay the bills so you're not living in your car. Like all of these things occupied my head so much. I wasn't even thinking about dating. And at that point, I was 28 years old. I had four or five failed relationships that were just dumpster fires. And I was like, I think I was like, hey, girl, I think it's time you date yourself. That's good. That's good. So basically Cupid came when you landed in Nashville. Cupid was here and shot you with an arrow immediately. Immediately. Yeah. So I walked into the elevator at the bar and he waved to me and I like waved back. And I just was so sad to see him leave. And I'm like, why are you sad about a guy that you don't, you don't know? You know? Yeah. You felt it right away. Yeah. I felt it in my gut. Like it hit me in my gut. I was like, I need to talk to this guy. Yeah. It was like this rainbow of energy was around him and I was just getting pulled towards him. Now, so there's a woman that I love to study in L.A. and I studied under her for like six years. And she has studied dating and relationships for 42 years. And she talks about how when a man meets men, objectify women. So when a man meets a woman, he knows if he's going to marry her, sleep with her, or friend zone her. And I'm curious because I know you've told, because we know each other, but I know what Chris originally said to you. So why don't you share that with our audience today? Oh, but keep in mind, ladies, like women can fall in love over time. And we'll talk about this later. I had a conversation with someone earlier about this, but I really, and I'm open for comments, like disagree, agree with me. I want to hear what you have to say about this. So, but yeah, she told me that men can decide right away, objectify women, and women can fall in love longer. So why don't you tell us about what Chris said? So yeah, so our first date, I invited him out to tacos and we had a great time. Is your camera okay? Can we adjust? You might need to adjust the lens. Yeah. The small one. Small one, yeah. Yep. There you go. I don't know. Is Crystal here? Ready? Yeah. Chris? Chris? Hey, can you turn it down a little bit? Oh, what? Are we still recording? I don't know. Let's figure that out right now. Yeah? Yeah, we're still recording. Okay. Okay, yeah, let's do this, because like we're doing a little teaser for like our listen. So why don't we, because I know we're talking about your story, but let's, we can save that one for another podcast. Yeah. Because we don't have like, let's go dive into like, how Nashville, small town, big city bible text dating. Let's like, you and I have an opening dialogue about that. And then also like why everyone seems like everyone and their ex. Yeah. You know? And then, and you can piggyback off that, like with how you guys like partied with people and stuff. Right? Because you didn't have a dialogue with that. I guess I feel like. Don't worry about that. Okay. Okay. So wait, Chris, can you see if that is clear in my video? For some reason it got, it got blurry. Is it blurry? You got to move the small part. Yeah. No, the other one. The smaller one. The small one. I'm trying to get it back. But I feel like it keeps automatically moving. Does it look clear still? Okay. Let's do another clap. Wait. No. Okay. Hey guys. Welcome to our new podcast here. It's Ia and Jessica. And we are going to talk about all things natural, dating specifically. And what comes with dating is lifestyle, but we're mostly going to talk about dating. What comes with dating though and lifestyle is restaurants, great places to go, people's normal activities. So in this podcast, you're going to hear about basically virtually everything in Nashville. I mean, everything in Nashville has to offer comes with dating. Sky's the limit. Sky's the limit. Because guess what happens? When a guy asks a girl on a date, they're going to go on a date to a restaurant. They're going to go to a bar. They're going to go to Honky Tonk. They're going to go to a coffee shop in Tall South. So we have a lot of stuff to talk about. But I think one of the biggest things in Nashville is like dating. Everyone wants to know about dating. For some reason, every girl is looking for a guy or a husband. Unless there's a rare breed like me and a couple of my friends that don't want to get married. And then there's girls that come here who are desperately trying to get married and look for babies. And then there's the guys that come here for the girls and for Broadway. Yeah. There's a lot of F boys there. There's a lot of F boys here. You know, when I first moved here, one of my really good friends, one of my best friends, she was a bridesmaid, she told me, she was like, hey girl, you're never going to meet a man here. And I was like, okay. No, you don't understand. The good ones are all married out of high school. I live in the suburbs. The musicians are gone all the time. And probably two of them are girls. And everyone else is a F boy. And the married ones who do live in downtown are. Yeah. I mean, there's, I mean, like, how do you stay, how do you stay loyal in a town like Broadway? Like, come on. Well, for us, it's pretty easy, but we don't, we don't. Oh, yeah. Well, okay. Yeah. I mean, we have Chris and Ia who are. We're the unicorns though. Don't, don't, you know, our story is like unrealistic, I feel like. So Ia is, just a quick introduction, Ia is the unicorn in Nashville, her and Chris. Ia is the girl that came to Nashville and met her man right away. Like right away. You don't even have a chance to even look at another guy and date. Like, she just taps you an arrow and that was it. And then there's me, who's 42. When I was like, let's see, 42, 41, 40, 39, 38, 37. I was 47 when I moved here. Divorced. Single. I wasn't really looking for love when I came here. I was looking to just try something new over COVID and just experience a new life. So. So we've got two polar opposites here. Yeah. So we're going to talk about in this podcast, everything in between, because let's face it, any of you guys watching this or listening to this, we all know somebody in between. We all know a fuck boy. We all know a girl who's desperately trying to find love, who is trying to get married and have babies. I mean, there's a million of those. And there's a million f-boys. And then there's f-boys who want to get married, who are f-boys. Like, what else? Yeah. There's so much. And you know, another thing is I heard that there's like three to four girls for every one guy here. I was going to ask you, because I think we know the ratio. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's honestly like going out in Nashville with Ia, I promise you, I think it's even more than that. I mean, for me, moving from L.A., because both of us are from L.A., I find it really hard to date here. Like, because there's really, there's not very many guys here at all. Like, I feel, and I think I'm talking on behalf of a lot of women here, the dating pool for women is very scarce. And, you know, it's one of those small town, big city feels where like everyone seems to know everyone and everyone's exes here. Oh, yeah. Everything's so co-mingling. So co-mingling. Like, there's this whole Facebook group that these girls put up that it's called Are We Dating the Same Guy? Oh, yeah. I think it's like in every city, though, too. It might be, but I saw a sign yesterday, two days ago, I saw a sign with a guy's photo that was blurred out. And this girl's like, I think we're dating the same guy called me. Like, you don't see that in L.A. No, no, no. Like, people, they're vicious. The girls, you know. But, like, it's, I mean, it's probably fair. The guys here, like, it's, I don't want to say trash, but. I mean, it's really hard to look at a group like that because I finally went against my will and joined it. Because I was like, oh, I don't really, I'm not really big about girls. Because one of the parts about dating is, like, as a woman, you're supposed to duty date. As a man, you're supposed to duty date. I think some people in their head get this idea that, oh, just because I met him on Hinge, I don't want him talking to any girls. You know? But the reality of dating is, like, that's the problem with Nashville. It is small, but you really are supposed to date multiple people before you find the one. Like, how are you, it's like interviewing for a job. Like, you don't just pick the first guy you go on a date with or go get drinks with. You know? I mean, in your face. No. No, I'm kidding. Can't relate. No, but, like, back in LA, there was one year, I think I went on over 30 first dates. Wow, you did say that. I did. Yeah. From dating apps. And not a single second date. But dating apps never worked for me. I always met people in person somehow. I met my ex-husband on Tinder. Was that a red flag? At the time, I was so naive. But now it's, like, so funny how Tinder is the sex app. And we won't go any further than that. But just to respect privacy in my relationship. But, yeah, it's really hard to date, I feel like, in Nashville because, like, there is, like, an overlap. You know? So, let's say I go out with a guy named John. And then, like, three weeks later, I found out that my friend Lily was going out with John, too. It's, like, there is kind of, like, invasion of privacy in Nashville because it's so small, which makes it really hard to date. You know? And then the problem with that is, like, there's a lot of girls here. There's a lot of options for the guys. Yeah. But then you hear the guys complaining that the girls here are all shit. But it's, like, I don't know. But then again, they say that in L.A., too. In Miami. Yeah. Dating in L.A. I mean, it was, I don't know if it was better, but maybe easier. I don't know. Yeah. I didn't have a problem dating in L.A., but I had a problem with the guys that I dated in L.A. cheating on me. So, I mean, quality wasn't there. Yeah. The quantity in L.A. is there, but the quality wasn't there. I mean, I had no problem dating and getting relationships in L.A., but I think, you know, everyone's experience is subjective, you know? But I think it depends on what you're looking for and, like, also, like, what you're putting on the universe. So, I mean, in L.A., like, I felt like growing up there, because I was there for 19 years, that, like, if you went out every night of the week and on the weekends and you were at every single party and you were consistently seen and thus seen, you were labeled a party girl. So, your chances of finding a quality man and getting married were, like, lower than, like, it's like that saying, like, be what you want to, like, if you want to get married, like, be the person you want to be married to. Be the person that you want to date, you know? If you want to be going out every night of the week, then your chances are you're going to attract a party boy. If you want to be a stay-at-home wife, like, go to yoga and do, like, read books and join other groups like that. Back to dating in Nashville. So, you, my dear, you're our unicorn of Nashville who landed here and got married. Well, you didn't get married right away, but you met the man of your dreams right away. So, where was your first date? It was at Bakersfield across from the diner, because this is back when I was working at the diner as a bartender. So, wait, tell our audience, like, what Bakersfield is. I'm not sure what Bakersfield is. Is it a bar? Is it a cafe? It's a restaurant bar. Yeah, Mexican food. I think it's still there. It should be still there. But you know what? Everything's been closing lately, so maybe it's not there. But last I checked, Bakersfield, this is a bar and grill, was still there. And it's, I was working at that, but it's called the diner. It's a six-story building. And I didn't want to eat diner food anymore. Because you were working at the diner. I was working at the diner. So I was like, oh, I'll just go across the street and get tacos. And it wasn't like a date, per se. He was just hitting me up for days. Like, what are you doing? Can you hang out? Like, let's go do something. I was like, no. He was really courting you. Like, he was persistent. Wow. Persistent. I'm curious to see what other people we interview talk about courting and chasing here in Nashville. Because I feel like one of the biggest things here is, like, from what I've heard in the streets, is that, like, a guy will meet a girl. And it kind of seems like the courting stages are a little bit confused here. Like, I know a lot of girls that chase guys out here. And then there are guys that just don't chase girls, you know. So it's interesting that you guys really have that dynamic, that he saw you and he chased you. And he was like, this is the girl I want. So let me ask you a question. So when you guys went to Bakersfield, obviously, would you guys go for dinner, breakfast, or lunch? We went for dinner. I got off work at, like, 9 p.m. that night. Oh, that's late. And it was more like I was just going to go. Yeah. But I was like, you know what, this guy has been hitting me up for four days. He even came back to the diner to find me. And I wasn't working that shift. And he, like, was calling me during my shift and was like, hey, like, let's write music. And I was like, dude, I'm at work. And so I just ended up getting hungry. And I was like, you know what, I'm just going to invite this guy. He keeps bugging me. Like, maybe this will shut him up. Did you think he was cute at all when you first met him? I, like, looking back, I don't remember ever thinking that. But also, I put on lipstick, like red lipstick, before he came into the Bakersfield. So I must have thought he was cute. Oh. Because otherwise, like, I feel like I wouldn't have, like, like, you know, I took my hair down in, like, in the restaurant bathroom. I took my hair down and was, like, fixing my face. And did it die again? Oh. I was fixing my face and, you know, putting on lipstick. Like, why else would I do that if I wasn't interested? Right. But, yeah, it was great. It was the best first date I've ever been on. Amazing. Okay. So, basically, Baker, the diner is downtown and then Bakersfield, Bakersfield? Bakersfield is right next door. So then Broadway is right there. Yeah. Did you guys just go to dinner and then go to Broadway after? No. We went to dinner and then he told me he wanted to walk me to my car. And I made up this stupid excuse because I didn't want the night to end. Oh. I was like, oh, no. Let me walk you to your Airbnb. It's dangerous around here. That's so feminine of you. I know. And so, like, I walked him to his Airbnb. And then, you know, he was getting his, like, phone out to go open the door. And he was, like, fiddling. And he was like, he looked up at me and was like, do you want to see my guitar? I didn't care about his guitar. But I was like, yes. I was like, yes. Well, you care about his guitar but maybe not, like, the standard guitar. That's a good one. I just, like, I wasn't even thinking about sex. I wasn't thinking about anything. I just knew I wanted to spend more time with this person. And so, we spent the night of him serenading me. At one point, we took an Uber to go back to my place so I could walk my dog. I packed an Uber night bag, which is, like, such a red flag. And I came back home with him. And I don't think at this point he still hadn't kissed me. He was doing the hand on the leg, the laughing on the shoulder. He was like, you're so funny. He got none of my vibes. Finally, he kissed me. And, yeah, the rest is history. And you guys are married now. How many years ago was this? Five? About five years ago? Four and a half years. Four and a half years ago now. Yeah, four and a half years. Wow. We met April 15th. No, our first date was April 19th, 2021. But we met April 15th. Yeah. So, it's interesting because when I first moved here, in L.A., I was on hinge. And it was hard to meet people in person because I didn't go out as much. But when I moved to Nashville, like, my drinking and alcohol intake went up, like, 200%. Like, in L.A., it was running, yoga, staying home. It was kind of like more of a lonely city. I felt my age more in L.A. And I moved here, and I felt I was right back to being, like, 30 again. And just the drinking just charged up. And so, the first couple of dates I went, first of all, the thing I realized was men are very young in Nashville. So, it went from, in L.A., I was, like, really attracting, like, older guys. And then here, it was, like, they were very young. Like, they all seemed younger than me. Even though I was 37, it seemed like I was attracting these younger guys. And I moved into the high rise where you and I met. It's a 505. And I just remember having my first crush on a guy that I saw at the dog park. And I was like, wow. Like, I didn't have crushes in L.A. I don't remember ever having a crush on a guy that I just saw that I thought was cute. L.A. was so different. And I just couldn't believe I would, like, purposely go to the dog park dressed up to try and see him. And he played games with me. And I was like, Jesus. Like, I'm used to, like, L.A. guys just courting me the way Chris courted you. And I'm just used to that. Like, and he did, but he didn't. And I was just, like, super curious about him. And then, I think our first date, he invited me to, we, it was kind of weird. We were going to start working together more than anything. And then, our first date was at Restoration Hardware when he asked me to be his boyfriend. But we didn't end up going up on Broadway. I'm trying to think of, like, the other dates that I went on before him. I, like, jumped. Yeah, did you go on a lot of Broadway dates? I didn't. So, I'm really big about not going out during the week. So, once I moved into 505, which is, like, right off of Broadway, I noticed that a lot of people in the buildings struggled with going out every single night. I wasn't one of them. I was very strict to, like, going to bed Monday through Friday. And on the Hinge dates, I'm trying to think of the first couple of Hinge dates I went on. The first Hinge date, I was with a guy that had moved back here. He was living in Miami. And he just had a mouthful of shit about Nashville. And I was not in that headspace. Like, I was so excited about Nashville at that point. Yeah. So, he was, like, oh, negative about Nashville. I can't believe I moved back. And I couldn't really figure him out. And he was down on Broadway. But I still wasn't familiar with Broadway. And then, that didn't work out. I think he ended up getting back together with his crazy ex, which I also wasn't used to in L.A., crazy exes. So, and then another date I went on, that guy really wasn't a big drinker. He was kind of a musician. I feel like every guy has a guitar in their back pocket here. Like, in L.A., everyone has a real estate license in their back pocket. Everyone here has a guitar in their back pocket. And then he had a house. But he was very, like, strict about his drinking habits. Like, we went out, and he had, like, one drink. And I was like, okay. Which kind of worked. And then I dated a guy from my, another guy from Florida that was visiting. But none of the dates, like, really stood out to me. Like, I really didn't jump into that whole, like, Nashville partying thing right away. My dates stayed consistently similar to, like, L.A. a little bit, where the guys would invite me out. But what was different is living at 505 downtown Nashville, front row seats to all the restaurants and Broadway. It was chaos. It was chaos. But the funny thing is, like, Fifth and Broadway wasn't even there yet. So, like, 1230 was non-existent. That's wild. That's wild. Do you remember that? No. Fifth and Broadway was there when you moved here. Was it? No, I don't think so. It just opened. No, they didn't open it up. No, they were building it. They were building it. Like, it wasn't empty. But they didn't open it up. Yeah. I remember when it opened up. Now, like, look at, there's still, like, if you look around, there's, like, ten cranes everywhere. It's just, the boom here is so wild. So much, like, this building wasn't here when we moved. It's crazy how many people from L.A. are moving here, too. So many. I feel like so many of my friends that I hang out with now are, like, California people. So, let's talk about, let's see, like, let's see here. Do you ever feel, like, embarrassed to tell people you're from California because of how much Nashville people hate Californians? That's a really good question. When I first moved here, I still had California plates. And people, like, it was over COVID during that whole crazy political thing. And, like, people would literally try to run me off the road. Or, like, they would tailgate me. I mean, the tailgaters in Nashville, first of all, are just horrendous. Everyone tries to say that it's California drivers. I'm like, dude, we have so much traffic in California. I don't think we even know how to tailgate. Here, I'm going, like, 80 miles on an open freeway. And I've got someone going 110 on my ass. I'm like, just go around me. I feel like people just don't know how to drive here. They don't. They're just reckless. They don't. Super reckless. And there's just a lot of open freeway. And people complain about the traffic here. Yeah, it's getting there. But it's an open freeway. I was just in L.A., like, a couple months ago. Nashville traffic is not as bad as L.A. traffic at all. I thought it was for a second, but it's not. So, to ping back on the name of our podcast, this Nashville thing, let's just agree to disagree or both agree that the drivers here are crazy. No, they're horrible. Horrible. They're horrible. It's a different kind of crazy than L.A. Like, I feel like I'm going to die more times while driving in L.A., but the drivers here are worse. It's just there's not as many of them. I feel like in L.A. you kind of have to strategically live where you work. So, like, for me, the past few years I lived in L.A. for, like, 10 years, it was like I lived five minutes away from where I work. You have to. I didn't even have to go on a freeway because I didn't hit the back street. You have to. Otherwise, you can, like, I've gone three hours to go to work before, you know, because of the traffic and nothing's moving. So, you really got to be careful. Really, you got to plan out your schedule when you leave the house because you could be on the freeway and then you think you're going to be to your destination at a certain time, but once you're on the freeway, like, it could just add time. Yeah, yeah. So, you being married, you guys lived in the 505, you guys weren't married back then, but you guys were pretty social, and the 505 was a pretty social building. Yeah. What do you think, like, what were some of the complaints from your girlfriends that you would hear? Because you guys went out a lot. About us? No, about, like, being dating and single and, like, living at the 505. The 505 has a reputation of being, like, a party building. And, like, someone once told me, like, everyone at the 505 has slept together. Would you agree or disagree with that statement? I agree. You agree? I mean, not like I've done that, but from the people I've talked to, yeah. I made it a point to try not to sleep around in the 505, and I did a good job. Only, I caught boyfriends. Both of my ex-boyfriends that I lived with for nine months each were living at the 505 on different floors. Oh, my goodness. But, no, yeah, everyone that I was friends with back in that building, not everyone, but the majority of them had slept with someone in the building. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, try to ask questions. So, at the dialogue, because I'm not, this isn't your interview. Like, we can make it your interview if you want, but I'm, like, asking you a lot of questions about Nashville, so I needed to, like— Try to think of some questions. We need to bounce back questions. Like, you can ask me, like, because I've been single in Nashville, you know? Yeah. So, like, you asked me, like, Jess, what's it like being single at 42 in Nashville? Jess, like, just bounce back and forth with me because I'm, like, the one that's interviewing, and I'm, like— We can do that, but, like, I'm the one talking about this. We're not talking about married— Do you have notes on your phone? Is that what you're reading? No, I'm looking at questions, but I'm just, like, I mean, just ask me, like, what normal people want to know about being single, like, because you're married. Yeah. So just ask, because I can— I don't need to talk about myself, but I can be like, oh, yeah, like, I've been out of here. This is what I hear about girls. I need you to ask me those questions, you know? Yeah. Like, Jess, what do you think is the biggest thing that you hear from single girls, young girls here in Nashville? Like, what do you run into the most? Do you have any advice for someone that just moved to Nashville and is trying to date? Hmm. The advice that I would give someone who just moved to Nashville is do not rush into bed with anyone. Take your time, you know? Literally come out here and take your time to meet people. Like, I know a few people that have moved here, and right away they meet a guy that they like, and they're not as fortunate as you are, you know? Like, they move here, and it's like right away they think this guy is cute, and it's like, girl, you just moved here, like, a few months ago, or you just moved here a few weeks ago. Like, take your time to get to know people. Get to know the lay of the land. Like, you don't know. There's people that, like, have lived here a long time that have, I hate to even use this word, reputations, but, like, there are some guys I heard that are definitely not looking to settle down, and there are some guys I heard definitely, like, you know what they're looking for, but some guy will just take the new shiny, easy object. Don't be the new shiny, easy object. Yeah. Because if you don't take your time to get to know a guy and get to know a group of friends, like, you don't realize, like, you could easily sleep with some guy that knows everyone in town, and then before you know it, like, that guy basically, like, owns you. He doesn't own you, but, like, you'll always have that on your reputation because guys talk. Guys talk, too. Not as much as girls do. I mean, I know a lot of guys here that don't kiss and tell, but, I mean, sometimes they do, and you don't want to, like, you don't want to ruin that for yourself by just going and jumping in bed with the first guy you think is cute here, you know, because you've got to play your cards right. You've got to vet them. Yeah. And let them get to know you because you just don't know where you're going to end up in Nashville. There's so many beautiful pockets, and there's so many different groups of friends out here. I mean, some people, everyone thinks they own Nashville. Everyone thinks their group is the popular group in Nashville, but there's just so many different groups. There's so many. So if you just freshly move here, and you go out a couple times with one group and, like, mess around with one guy and think that's the love of your life, like, I mean, you're missing out on so many other great people out here. So my advice to anyone just moving here, any girl, young, older, like, take your time. Get out there. Be social. Focus on probably, I would focus on making more girlfriends because I think girlfriends are going to be the ones that are going to show you around. They're going to know people. Then really focusing on dating right away. Oh, yeah. Do you think dating apps are a good or a bad thing here? So I've heard mixed things from different girls with the dating apps. There's Hinge and Bumble and Tinder. I haven't really heard of anyone on Tinder, but I've heard of Bumble and Hinge. And I've heard mixed reviews on them. I personally was on Hinge, and I thought it's right, left. Which one's right? Right is the good one, left is the no? Right's the good one, left's the bad one. I thought it was called no. Like, it was a joke. In fact, I literally went to visit my dad and his wife, and I had her just go through my Hinge. She just couldn't believe the options online. So I kind of feel like this city, in Nashville, it's a better place to meet people in person. Yeah. Yeah. Do you normally, like, meet your boyfriends or relationships in person or kind of just varies? In Nashville, more than anything in person, but I do know people that go on Hinge dates a lot. I have a girlfriend right now who we are interviewing. Woo! I can't wait. Who's going to give us all the scoop on dating apps. Oh. Much better. Yeah. And I can ask you questions back, too. Okay. I don't know why. Oh, you don't know why? Has it been 30? I feel like it hasn't been 30 minutes yet. No, it's the four gigabytes thing. Okay. So, Eia, do you think that if you were single, would you do dating apps? Oh, God, no. No. No. Have you ever done dating apps? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I've been on Hinge. I've been on Bumble. I've been on Tinder. I just, I did used to use them when I was younger. I never had a follow-up date. How about your girlfriends you have here? Do they use Hinge dating apps more or like more in person? Oh, yeah. Yeah. My friends use Hinge a lot. Yeah. I feel like no one really uses, like, back in the day, you know, what, like, is 15 years too long, 10 years, whatever, whenever the dating apps came out? Because Tinder was, like, the first one. That's kind of when I got on it. But now Tinder is kind of like the hookup app. Yeah. So I don't really know anyone that uses Tinder anymore. Yeah. I don't either. I don't either. But, okay, ask away. Okay. Do you, oh, I have a question. Do you find it hard dating having, like, because you have a dog? That's a really good question. I found that, yeah, yeah. I think dating really could have, you know, ever since I got my dog back in the day, like, it really changed things for me, really changed things for me. Because all of a sudden it was like I had a responsibility, like, a kid to come home to, you know, so it wasn't like I could just go and stay out all night and not come home whenever I wanted to. It was like, no, like, I can go out and have fun, but I've got to get home that night. And then, you know, some guys are allergic to dogs and some guys aren't allergic to dogs. Some guys won't want your dog to sleep in the bed with them. Some guys will. Some guys won't let the dog on the couch. Some guys will. So my dog's a rescue, and I've spoiled her. I let her do whatever the hell she wants. So it's been hard to find that compatibility with somebody who is also on the same page as me with that kind of having a dog, you know. I mean, everyone in Nashville has a dog. That's what I was thinking. I'm like, this is such a dog city. I don't know anyone that – actually, I know a couple people that don't have dogs, but, I mean, it's rare. I know. But you would say, well, yours passed away. I know. I know. Wait, so when you guys – when you and Chris first met, remember, I think you told me that Chris had some issues with your dog. Oh, yeah, yeah. He wasn't fully on board with Gus. And, like, he didn't want Gus to sleep in the bed because he was snoring. Or, you know, Gus, in his later years, got really terminally sick and was peeing all over the place. But I kind of just was like, hey, I'm a package deal. Like, this is what you get or you don't get anything at all. So, like, if you don't want Gus sleeping in the bed, that's fine. Me and Gus can go back to my apartment and we can sleep there. And then he was like, no, no, no, no, no, like, come sleep in the bed. And then after I moved in with him, he still would say that. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. Me and Gus are going to go sleep on the couch, have a good night. And then he would come out and be like, no, no, no, like, come back to bed. So, yeah, I mean, I didn't really, like – that was a hard no for me. Oh, okay. It's Gus or Bess. Gus or Bess, yeah, that's kind of how I went to with Cashew at this point. I really can't have another option. So, basically, with this podcast, you know, both of us from California moving to Nashville and living at the 505 downtown has obviously dramatically changed both of our lives. Anyone who's lived at the 505 could probably say the same. I mean, I don't know how ridiculous that sounds. But, to me, it changed my life. Most of the people I've met in Nashville today live at the 505. It was a party building, absolutely, and it was a very social building. And people definitely did sleep together. People didn't. There were waves of people that moved in. So, part of living at the 505 was really my biggest first dose of Nashville, but also my first real boyfriend in Nashville was my real dose of Nashville. So, I got to meet a lot of people through him. And, you know, one of the things that this podcast is really focusing on is dating is because one of the things that I keep running into, one of the main things that we run into outside of our business is, like, I'm a very social butterfly. I love to go out. Chris and Eia, you guys were very social in the beginning. You guys have gotten sober. Congratulations. Drinking helped being social. Drinking helped being social, absolutely. I think that's, like, the most drunk state in the country. Oh, yes, by far. I just looked up the statistic the other day that drinking around the country has gone down in every single state except Tennessee. It's gone up. Well, mine's gone up 200% since living here. Yeah, me too. I was drinking all the time. What I find astronomically wild at 42 years old, you know, with Instagram influencers and all these beautiful women online is, like, why the heck are there so many single women really struggling to find love? And it happens in every single city. I know some of the most beautiful, hottest girls in Miami. I know some of the most beautiful, hottest girls in L.A. And, I mean, like, we have beautiful girls here. Like, what is the dilemma? So what we're going to do in this podcast is we're really going to cover interviewing these beautiful women. But on the flip side, we're also going to interview beautiful men. And beautiful is not just on the outside, it's on the inside. So we are going to be interviewing all walks of life in this podcast from all walks of life here because we want diversity, we want to mix it up. We want to hear from people that are working as musicians. We want to hear from doctors. We want to hear, like, everyone's perspective of, like, why it's hard to date and what the experience is. We're going to talk about, like, different dating spots and what seems to be the norm. We're going to talk about people's, like, what they want to do on a date here in Nashville. Because I did see on the dating app sometimes, yeah, like I would have guys write me, like, let's do something other than drinking. Okay, well, if we're going to do something other than drinking in that Nashville, what are we going to do? Yeah. So with all of the people that we're going to interview, we're going to ask them what they would do if they weren't drinking. I think you and I are going to come up with some really good questions about, like, we're going to go deeper. We're going to dig deeper into this. We're going to expose Nashville and dating as much as we possibly can in these interviews. I'm really excited. I'm excited, too. Real quick, I do have a question for you that just popped in my head. If a guy slides into your DM, does it give you the ick? Ooh. Or do you like it? Like, you're like, oh, he's taking initiative. Wow, that's a really loaded question. I think we should add that to the list of questions we ask our interviewees, especially the girls. Because I think that could be taken a couple different ways. You know, right? Don't you think? A girl could be like, oh, he signed up my DMs. He has a crush on me. Like, that's a really good question for our interviewees. Like, what do you think when a guy slides into your DM? Yeah. Or he's married. I feel like that happens a lot, too, here in Nashville. Close your ears. He's my married friend. I trust my man. He's a good one. But I just feel like, you know, that's a really good question because that happens a lot here. Same thing with, like, liking a picture. It's like you're in Nashville, and you know your friend's been talking about a guy that she's dating, and then all of a sudden he likes your picture. Then he ends up in your DM. It's like, how sensitive are women to their guy, to someone dating, liking other women's pictures? That's a good one. I can't wait to hear what our interviewees are. We're going to call them local legends. Our local legends, male and female, say about this because we're going to get the answer on both sides. I want to hear what a guy thinks about liking pictures and sliding into DMs and what a girl thinks about her pictures being liked or other girls being liked and a guy sliding into DMs. Because I know what I think. I don't want to use it. Can I use enough words? Sure. If I'm dating a guy and, like, I go see that he likes, like, a bunch of girls' pictures, it would bother me. Yeah. The psychology behind it is, like, if we just met each other, I would probably question. It's a very fine line. It's a very fine line. Yeah. But, you know, if I know the guy and he's liking my pictures, I know it might be support. But if I don't know the guy, I might think he's, like, ooh, he's trying to, like, get my attention. Or maybe if he's in my DMs a lot. I mean, there's some funny memes out there about the DM thing. There's, like, the guys that are, like, I don't want to go too much into detail, but it's hilarious. I don't know what we can and can't say on a podcast. I think you could say bad words and stuff. But can we talk about, like, the Indians and the Persians, like, the DMs of those compared to, like. Yeah. Why not? I think my biggest fans are guys from, like, Iran or Iraq. Like, they send you the DMs, like, oh, pretty girl, I sent you a million roses, I love your picture. And then there's, like, I get so many of, like, the Indian guys. Like, I love you, marry me. I know. For me, if I'm, like, when I'm dating someone, I'm, like, if a guy's worried about DMs, I really don't take DMs seriously. I don't think I've ever met a guy on Instagram and took him seriously as a date. I've never took Instagram seriously for dating, ever. But I know girls that have met guys on Instagram before. I've met a guy on Instagram. You did? I mean, it wasn't, like, a boyfriend. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. I think I've met a couple, but I don't really take them that seriously, unless I'm, like, mutual friends. I can know each other and their life looks interesting. No, he really wanted to be my boyfriend, and I was, like, no. No. I was so mean back then. I was. I was breaking heart. Well, let's get back on track to the conversation about this podcast. So, this podcast, basically, like, we're going to dive into the singles and I think we should interview married people too. Singles, couples, married people. Yeah, couples, situations, shifts. Like, we want to hear all of it. Everything under the sun. Everything under the sun because, most importantly, too, like, I really want to hear about married people and how they met people here I just know so many girls that are so desperate to put babies in themselves, and they just can't. I know entrepreneur women that struggle with dating here. I know women that don't have jobs, not very good jobs, and they struggle dating here. And it's funny because, like, I hear guys talking about, like, oh, at least she has a job. But then she has a job, and they're intimidated by her. And then some girls that, what is, I think most, you have to have a job to live in Nashville. So, it's like, if you're not working. Actually, you know what? I know a lot of married women who are stay-at-home women here. There's a lot of stay-at-home wives in Nashville. There's a lot. Like, that's not really something you really see in California. No, no, no. There's a lot of them, and I'm like, really? Yeah. You can live on one income? Like, it's, I guess because we're from California, it's just not possible. Yeah. And, you know, owning a paint business, like, you and I have seen that a lot. Yeah. Because we are in the suburbs all the time. We definitely see that. They're either stay-at-home wives or everyone works from home. Yeah. It's kind of crazy in Nashville how, like, you talk to people in the suburbs, and they hate coming downtown. And downtown hates going to the suburbs. I get, like, nervous. So, I can't wait to interview people, our local legends, and see, like, where their desire is. I think some of our upcoming interviews, like, some of them have lived in the suburbs, and they moved downtown. So, it'll be interesting to pick around, like, hear from people, like, what the difference is living downtown and living in the suburbs. Oh, yeah. And I'm so curious to hear about the couples that are in downtown that go out every weekend. I know. And party. I know. Because you and I have both seen some pretty rowdy couples at 505. We've both seen a couple of couples from downtown to 505 where we question the loyalty of that couple. And we've seen them break up. We've heard couples that are married for very long years end up breaking up because of living downtown. Yeah. Yeah. Downtown could be the curse of your relationship. Literally. Yeah. It could literally be the curse of your relationship. It could. And I can't wait to interview some of these people and find out what the draw is to, like, downtown. Like, I know it's alcohol and music, but at what point, like, do you just get tired of that? It's the same thing every day. I know people like routine. Yeah. I think it's just because everything's convenient. Like, downtown Nashville isn't really that big yet. No. I mean, it's a lot bigger than when we came here. Yeah. But it's so small. Like, for the most part, you can walk everywhere in downtown. For us, someone who is married that doesn't drink, that doesn't party anymore, we've stayed because, and we're staying because of the convenience of how close everything is and how walkable everything is. I also love how in Nashville, living at the 505, in the five years that I've lived here, it's been five years exactly at this month, by the way. I've been here five years. It's my five-year anniversary in Nashville. But it's amazing how I've seen certain people go from, like, single to meeting other people and then getting married. I don't know why this thing keeps cutting off. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, we might be able to cut it together. Okay. We'll see what happens because mine hasn't stopped. I wish I had this a little quicker. Okay. So where we left off, so basically right now, oh, we paused. Yeah, I'll do it again. Oh, that's not a good one. Maybe. Here, let me just talk to you first, then we'll do the clock. What I'm trying to do is, like, kind of have, like, an intro to the podcast. So what I want to kind of talk about is vague, like, hey, this is what we're going to talk about. You know, we'll kind of, like, tap into, like, marriage. You can pull some of those from this conversation. But I'm really trying to hone it into, like, just a very broad conversation of, like, oh, I listen to National Society. Me too. I really notice here, like, going out, there's a lot of girls. Yeah, me too. I notice that. Yeah, I got married. I ran away. I haven't really met any married couples. The married couples here at CNS are, like, cheating on each other or whatever. It's hard to stay together. Some of them end up moving away because they had to because of drinking. And then, like, just keep it focused on, like, the main thing is, like, why we're doing the podcast. Who, what, where, when, why. You know, like, who are we doing the podcast with? Local legends, girls and guys, all shapes and sizes, all ages and races. Why are we doing this? Because it's a talked-about thing. Everyone talks about it. It's, like, a Nashville thing. And then what? So we'll revert to the who, what, why. Like, I can tell you. So, yeah, who do you think would be a good candidate for this? And then we go down. You go, well, who do you think? And I'll be like, oh, Ritchie Walls and Brando Eaton. Like, I could say who I think. And then don't say Kristen Whitney. Actually, avoid her name. But then you could say, what do you think is going to happen with this pilot? What do you think we're going to say? What do you think the answers are? What do you think someone in the suburbs would think about us dating downtown? Like, he used the who, what, where, when, why. Yeah. And then we'll just go with that. Let me start this over again. Okay. So you can pull from the other stuff, but I think right now I would avoid my card. Oh, shoot. I just used my phone's dead, too. How do I delete the whole card? Well, don't delete the card. We can actually set up this. Is that one hard? Yeah. I can't delete anything on here? No, don't delete the card. I can't delete the card. You've got to use that. Or copy it. Oh, my gosh. I can't delete somebody's decision here. Okay. I wanted to show you a quick half an hour of who, what, where, when, why real quick. Okay. You can pull stuff from the stuff we already talked about, too. Yeah. But if we can just do that real quick. And, like, because now we're both, I'm used to talking on this now. I just want to get a hang of it, you know? Yeah. We can probably do that without video. This is what it will sound like. So, if you get stuck right now, just go through what, where, when, why. It doesn't have to be in that order. Okay. So, like, who are we going to talk about? So, who's in the interview, yes? Who would you like to see interviewed? Who do you think people would want to see interviewed? And then we can say, what do you think you are going to say? There's a lot of pictures and stuff that help, right? Yeah. So, it should help. Are you feeling better? I feel like you're feeling better. Yeah. You look really good, Edith. Do I look good? Oh, yeah. You look really, really good. I just have to keep you on track. Yeah. And it's hard to get off track when I do it to you, but I'm just trying to stay on track. Because, like, I'm just trying to, like, um, this is a hard one. It's just a massive amount of time. Because you and I just talk back and forth about everything, you know? Yeah. And I think that we should definitely do one where I interview you. And we make it all about you and Christy's story. I should interview you, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When's a good time to get into a relationship? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Talk. Okay. Okay. All right. So we've already done the intro. So who? Who are we going to be interviewing for International Thing? Who do you want to see on this show, Eia? Oh, like dream people? Like who would you want to see? Realistic. Okay. Give me like a dream person and a realistic person. Dream person. Probably Kristen. Wait. What's her name? Kristen Barstow. Okay. Here's a Cavalier. The girl from The Bachelor. No. No. The other girl from The Bachelor. Savvy. Savvy. You know this. It's on our list. I did. Yeah. Kristen Barstow. Kaitlyn Barstow. Kaitlyn Barstow. Kaitlyn Barstow. Oh my God. Okay. That's a dream. Who's a real? Who's a real? A real, like a real one would probably... Guy or girl? It would be a girl. Camille that lives down the hall. She's super sweet. Okay. Okay. But now you have to say a guy. Who do you think would be really interesting on this podcast? I think David's going to be really good. Yeah. Me too. I agree. I agree. I really think he's going to knock it out of the dog park. Yeah. Out of the dog park? Ballpark. Ballpark. Ballpark. You know what? You know what? For us, it's the dog park. You know, ask me. Who do I think? Who is your dream person that you want to interview and who's your realistic person you want to interview? Who would be a dream for me would be Richie and Brando, but I think that also might be realistic. Yeah. I was going to say you know them. I would love... I'm hoping that they will say yes. And then the reality people that I cannot wait to hear. Definitely, I think some entertaining people, some of these great girls. Like, I can't wait to hear Jill's stories. I can't wait to share your story and interview you. Yours is going to be a good interview too. I also... Reality... There are some really interesting people in the 505 that I thought would be interesting. I don't know. And then there's also the pool of crazy girls, which you and I both talked about that it might be not a bad idea to get some crazy on here. Oh, yeah. People are going to love the chaos. Oh, also another dream for me is Jeff Matthews. Jeff Matthews. I would love to get him on here as well. Dr. Jeff Matthews. You know who I... Like, a superstar dream would love to get on here about dating and life? Who? Keith Urban. Oh, yeah. That would be amazing. That would be wild. Wow. Yeah. Okay, so who do you think like... Okay, who do you think Nashville's for? Like, I mean, if you can like paint the perfect person for Nashville, who do you think... Who would be like the perfect fit for Nashville? I have no idea. What do you see living in Nashville? Like, what I can describe about Nashville that I haven't seen back where I'm from is that people know their neighbors, which I feel like is the chaos thing. Like, I don't know if that's like a specific Nashville thing. Yeah. Everyone's nice. Everyone says hi. Everyone opens doors. Like, you just get this culture out here that you don't get other places. I guess the better question is like, who lives in Nashville? Who do we see here? And like you said, it's like, it's friendly people. Friendly people live here. People from California are moving here. People from Chicago are moving here. New York is a very transient city. But who really lives here is like, I would say just from my experience living here, but we own a paint business, and we've seen all walks of life. But it's a very middle-aged state. Like, you really see like, definitely all walks of life. But like, Beverly Hills was predominantly older. Here, it's very, it feels very young, very youthful, very energetic. That's who I met over here. Nashville's very, like, young people live in downtown. Yeah. And then I feel like the further you get from downtown, the older the people get. But that's not always true in the suburbs. I mean, there's a lot of young, beautiful couples out there. You see some? Yeah. Yeah. There's young people in Franklin? There's so, there's young people in Franklin, yes. Wow. But like, determine young. Like, I would say like between like 25 to like 45. Yeah, I was thinking like in the 20s. Yeah. I don't know if anyone in the 20s will want to live in Franklin. Yeah. Where do you think is like a hot date night spot? Like a first date, like I want to impress you kind of spot. Ooh. I feel like it's really hard to date in Nashville when you know too many people. Because I feel like on a first date, you're kind of like, where can I go that I'm not going to run into 10 million people that I know? And then, because I feel like when you go on a date with someone, you know everybody in the room. It kind of takes away from that date. Because you're like, you're just getting to know the person. You're kind of like feeling them out. And then you feel judged by people. So, I would say where a great date would be somewhere where I knew I wasn't going to run into a lot of people. And for that, for me, is East Nashville. 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