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We regret to inform you that for this episode, I recorded in a gymnasium, three doors down. As such, it sometimes sounds like LaCroix tastes, like I'm yelling flavors at Static and hoping for the best. Hello, hello. Welcome back. Today, we're going to be talking about Divine Rivals and Ruthless Vows. This is your warning. Now, if you haven't read these books, and you want to, you should probably stop listening. If you don't care to get spoilies, keep listening. Although, for the record, I have read these books. In fact, for once, I am the one who has read them most recently. It might be the most coherent today. Yeah, we should probably say that up front. We are all having a bit of a week. Don't quite know what you're about to get, but... It's going to be fun. No matter what it is, you'll get some entertainment out of it. Right. I hope. We're a mimosa in, so let's go. Let's start big. Overall, big opinions, ratings. Which one did you like better? Ooh, yes. Okay, so I read Divine Rivals... I actually started reading it on my Kindle. I got about 80% through the book and looked at Ben, and I was like, we are going to Barnes & Noble, and I am buying this book right now because I need to have it. I read it over the summer last year and had to wait anxiously for Ruthless Vows to come out. I was at Barnes & Noble before it opened on release day so that I could get that book. I was waiting for it. I knew you waited that long. I know. I would have forgotten everything. Yeah, but you do have a differentiation now between the two books. Yeah. Which is nice because there is that thing you said, Kaylee, the other day. There's a really fine line between reading a book and having to wait and you forget everything. Or binging the whole series in three days and then you can't differentiate between the books. Yeah. Which is where the standalone series are kind of nice because the characters are different in each one. So that is a really big part of just a side note. This isn't a standalone series. But just generally, I think that's a big difference in there. Because with these, I read them back to back over the years, and I don't know. I know some stuff that happened solely in the first book, but there's plot twists that I'm like, I don't know. Don't know where it happened. I'm not sure if it happened in book one or two. Yeah. These had a decent change of pace, I feel like, between book one and two, though, that it made it a little bit easier. Especially stuff like deep in the wards. Yeah. That happened in book two. Right. So Eileen was definitely a Divine Rivals over a Ruthless Vow. I'm a Divine Rivals, Kaylee. Absolutely. What about you, Meg? I, too, am a Divine Rivals over a Ruthless Vow. My hot take is that I am a Ruthless Vow better than Divine Rivals. Wow. I kind of struggled with Divine Rivals a little bit. Really? It was good, and I didn't have any problems with it, per se, but it was kind of slow-ish, and I didn't get as much of the war plot that I kind of wanted. It felt like it was kind of building too, and we didn't get. And then, obviously, it's a big switch, and that's what you end up getting in Ruthless Vows. And while I do think there were a lot of holes in Ruthless Vows that we will talk about soon, I still liked it a little bit better than Divine Rivals, I think. I did not know that you were a Ruthless Vow girlie. And I still enjoyed Ruthless Vows, don't get me wrong. Right. But I think, I don't know, I mean, it did take me, like, probably 50 pages to get into Divine Rivals, but I feel like that's pretty typical for me of any book, unless it's a thriller or something, and it's like somebody gets killed on page one. But, you know. I think that's where, because I'd read Divine Rivals over the summer and had to wait to read Ruthless Vows, I'd spent months knowing that Roman had lost his memory. Yes. And I started Ruthless Vows, like, desperate to know if and when he would remember Iris. When I finished Divine Rivals, and I read the cover for Ruthless Vows, like, they gave it to me at the climbing gym, and I read it right there, and I was immediately mad. Because I was worried that Ruthless Vows was going to be just like Divine Rivals again, because he forgot his, like, he lost his memory. And I was like, I, yeah, I was like, I don't want to read their love story all over again and not advance the plot of this war. But then it ended up being, like, so much better than that. So maybe it was just, like, an expectation thing. I thought it was going to be bad, and then it wasn't. And then I'm like, oh, it's better. I also listened to it on audiobook. Like, I didn't have time to read, so I listened to it on my way to work. And I don't know, sometimes audiobook for me on, like, sequels is, like, a real banger. Like, I'm like, yes. It's interesting. Like, I get really into it. So it could have just been the audiobook versus the, like, reading experience. Yeah. Interesting. So should we talk about not only me, but Kaylee's confusion. So both of us were so confused about when this book took place. That's so hilarious. For, I don't know. I would say until the end. Because they finally set a date. Did they? They said a year. At some point. I was the only thing. Was it a day after? It was a day of me. It was for, like, weeks. I'm pretty sure it was, like, at the end. They finally said a year. I couldn't tell you. I don't know a page. I'm sorry. I don't have the book in front of me. It's on my bookshelf across the room. So, like, if it weren't obvious based on when I read Divine Rivals, I was the one who recommended the books to Meg and Kaylee to read. And so Meg starts reading it first. And we show up to our weekly climbing sesh. And she's like, man, like, when does this book happen? And I'm like, great question. I don't really know. I don't really care. That question was, like, haunting me. And it was for, like, three weeks straight we would go to the gym. And Meg would be like, when is this happening? I was like, I don't know. I thought you read it. I was, like, done. But I was like, when does it occur? I need to know, like, when these people are doing all these things. Because at one point, like, they're writing with typewriters. Yes. For a newspaper. But then they're, like, in an apartment with, like, heated water and, like, lights. And I'm like, I don't understand. We were getting the full run of, like. And again, I'm no historian. No. Yeah. They were using candles. Like, she was, like, relying on candlelight. But then Roman had, like, heated bathroom floors or some shit. And I was just like. I'm just confused. Yeah. Are we just poor? Yes. It's called wealth inequities, people. Well, like, I mean. But, like. And obviously that played into it. Like, they talk about that. But I was like, this is, like. I'm sorry. We are not at an average everyday life these days comparing candlelight to heated floors in the same city. Like in Arizona. Yeah. Like. Where are they? And then you're talking about, like, they were driving, like, lorries. Which I'm assuming were just, like, big trucks. That, like, to me were, like, wreaking of, like, World War I. Yeah. And we had French warfare at World War I. And we had, like, the newspapers and the typewriters. And, like. I was like. Are we World War I era? But then I was like. I genuinely don't know when, like, indoor plumbing was a regular thing. Yeah. And I, like. Then it talked about, like. He had almost, like, instantaneous hot water. Like, on indoor plumbing. And I was like. I don't know when this book takes place. I don't know. I would have imagined indoor plumbing was a thing. But I'm just like. I don't know. It just all felt a little. I don't know. Honestly. This makes me question, like. Am I just dumb? Because when I first. I guess it's most fantasy. When I'm reading it. I'm just along for the ride. I'm like. Whatever you're telling me. I'm accepting. And we're moving on. Yeah. So. I never thought to question any of what the book was saying. I was just like. Yes. Makes perfect sense. Let's keep going. All right. Fact check. I googled. What year does Divine Rival take place? According to WordPress Arc Review. It is in February of this year. So. I googled. What year does Divine Rival take place? According to WordPress Arc Review. It is in fictionalized boroughs in the very late 1800s. I also just googled. When was. Indoor plumbing. Common in the United States. 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