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The podcast episode discusses a Netflix documentary called "The Man with a Thousand Kids" that explores the story of a man who fathered many children through sperm donation. The podcast hosts discuss the lack of regulation in the sperm donation industry and the legal and ethical issues surrounding the situation. They also question the motives of the women involved and suggest that adoption might be a better option. Overall, they criticize the clinics and the system rather than blaming the man for his actions. Hey everybody, welcome to Socky Doobie! Ever wondered what happens when a man takes spreading the love to an extreme? In today's episode, we dive into the wild, eyebrow-raising world of The Man with a Thousand Kids, the Netflix documentary that makes you rethink every family gathering you've ever had. Buckle up as we explore how one man managed to father a small nation, and the legal, ethical, and downright bizarre twists that came with it. Trust us, you won't want to miss this one. Hey everybody, it's Daryl, back again, another episode of Socky Doobie. Right now I'm not sure if this is going to be a snippet or not, but man oh man, I just watched that Netflix special, The Man with a Thousand Kids. Holy crap, what a shit show. Gosh, I'm here with Casey, she's here with me. Hello everyone. She's seen it. I have. Man, dude, what a hole they dug for themselves. The bombs. The bombs. Yeah, I don't understand what they were thinking there. That was awful. It was pretty bad. They lost that whole thing. They feel like they won because the guy was like, you can't give sperm anymore. He's already got a ton of kids anyways, but I just, the whole logic behind most of this, it just didn't make any sense. It was a bunch of angry women that were pissed and went after men. What ended up happening is normally what happens in the justice system here in America every night. Yeah. A scorned woman, somebody who felt some certain way about something, took it due to court. Pretty much, yeah. And they didn't get anything out of it. Oh, they got, can't produce sperm in a clinic anymore? Can't donate anymore. I don't even know how they're going to, I mean, in a clinic, sure, but the fact is he wasn't doing it only in a clinic. He had a website, which is how most of these people found him. Well, that's where we're going next. These people called him off his own website. Right. And had him come there. And it seems there wasn't even a fee charged, like it was free. It's like buying drugs from a guy at the package store or liquor store. Okay. It's like, you know, you're calling a dude off the internet. What do you think you're going to get? Yeah, I don't know. You helped perpetuate this, and now you want to take him down? The dude found a loophole in all this. I guess I've never even thought about the fact that people donate and there's more siblings, kids, whatever out there. I've never even thought about that. But they claim they've all asked him how many kids he has. So the backstory out there is this guy, Jonathan Meijer. I don't know how to say that. It's all right. Found a loophole in sperm donation and whatever. And the clinics obviously don't talk to each other, at least overseas. And I don't know where else. It seems like they're all connected everywhere. The clinics? It seems that's kind of what they said. No, they thought, but there wasn't. Obviously, he was able to do this. He was able to go to every clinic whenever he wanted to and donate as much as he wanted to, and they had no idea the last time he had been there. Sure. Okay. So the real problem is the clinics. Yeah. That's where the problem starts. The second problem is the women being scorned and angry. Right. Because they found a guy on the internet that would come either give them a sample or do it naturally. Right, because most of the people in this documentary, which I know there's probably a lot on both sides, but most of these people found him as a private donor, not through the clinic. There was only one couple that actually, on the documentary, that found him in the clinic. Right. So the rest of them all. I guess the strangest part is that they have all of them meeting and they're making them like a family. Hold on. That's later. The real problem is there is zero regulation. Apparently, yeah. Donating sperm has been legal at least 30 years. Probably as long as that, as far as I know. I haven't even looked into it yet. I have no idea. This is right off the cuff. This is a straight shot episode. How the hell do clinics not have that kind of information to go between? I mean, they said there is a maximum in every country. They say it. He reached the maximum in every country. That's obviously not. But. He went above and beyond because the clinics don't speak to each other. Apparently. So whose fault is it really? And even if he did reach every maximum, he went on the Internet. And these people are going to find him on the Internet. Not even through a clinic. Yeah. So whose fault is it? Is it that dude's? No. It's not. So why the hell are these young ladies all bent out of shape? They did it. Yeah. I don't understand. Adopt a kid. Very odd to watch. Yeah. And then to put all the kids together is just weird. And they kept saying how screwed up they were going to be and blah, blah, blah. And they don't even need to know. You didn't even tell them. They kept showing kids, like, watching the videos of the guy on TV and stuff. Like, they're going to explain all this to them? Why is that a thing? I just. Why would you have a picnic and call them your family? And it's just weird. It is weird. It is awful. And it is not that dude's fault. And that's why the judge at the end was like, if you ejaculate in a clinic again, you have to pay 100,000 euro. Right. Okay. Just go have sex with people. Yeah. How are they going to monitor that? Monitor that. I don't. I have no idea. Stay on the internet. How are they going to know? Change your name. Well, they said that website, there was like a billion, not a billion, there was a bunch of names on it. And it was all two people, really. All of those names were the same two people. Basically, yeah. Yeah. Because they figured out a little. It doesn't matter who you picked. Look, they were sick for what they were doing. Yes. How do you do that without getting paid? Because they did also say it was more like a game, like a competition between these two people. Which is weird. Apparently, there are these mass donors that have created this and so. But it's odd. I don't know why anybody would want to do that. But apparently. I enjoy the good old-fashioned self-manipulation. Right. Auto-erotica. As much as the next guy. But man, oh man, that's a lot. How is it that guy did not fall off? Oh my God. Let's not go there. No. But let's get into the women. How crazy you have to be. You had a child that you couldn't have. Right. Am I right? Yep. Exactly. Ignorance is bliss. How the hell are you poking something? And then to come up with evidently nothing. So all you did was you told a guy that he can't go jerk off in a clinic. Right. It's not like he makes everything that he's done already better. What do you do? Take the rest of the kids away? Or make them babysit every Saturday night so you two can go out? Well, and apparently he's actually willing to see these children, which is also odd. I didn't think that was a thing for most people that do this. But he's willing to see them and be part of these kids' lives if they want that. Why do you want to have a donor and then have him part of your family? I don't know. Unless you physically know them well. And at that point, just have sex with that dude. The whole situation was odd because these people were like, oh yeah, we wanted him around. And if he has all these kids, how is he going to be at our Christmas? Why? You picked this guy on the internet. Why would you want him at your Christmas? He's got 999 other Christmases to go to. He can't make it. He can't make everybody's. Christmas has to be every day of every year. You're going to have to extend the year a little bit. And then the people that go out looking for this, like, what are you doing? You're attacking the wrong point. Right. You attacked one person. And all you did, Netflix, by the way, is expose this opening to every other weirdo that will do this. Correct. Because they also did point out that there are other people that are doing this. So why is this one person the one that was targeted? I don't know. The whole Netflix series on the one guy. One guy. When the real problem is the clinics and the regulations worldwide on everything that goes on with this. Look. And the fact that people want to do sketchy things and do this on the internet for free. I got my own thoughts on stuff. I feel like everybody's entitled to their own life. And it's not my business to judge, talk about, or anything like that. I just want to make that clear. Right. But I also say, if you choose a certain way of life, you may or may not have to give up some sort of ideals or things that, you know, you just can't do. I know what you mean, but I'm not against that. I'm not against two women raising a family. I'm not against two men raising a family. Right. But adopt. Adopt. There's so many kids that need to be adopted out there. True. And you want to carry the baby. Women, I get. I get. Some women really want to feel the child growing inside them and go through the motherhood and all that stuff. And I get it's a big thing for women. But you've got to understand that sometimes if you identify as a lesbian, you may have to give that up a little bit. It's also expensive. It's very expensive. To adopt and actually to use these clinics and stuff I think is expensive, which is obviously why people. Are going on the internet. Internet. So they are actually perpetuating this themselves. Yes. I'm not trying to say that they're doing this. But because they want to find a cheaper route because it's so expensive. But they've chosen this. It's like kind of trying to have your cake and eat it too. Right. Which everybody wants to. Heteros, gays, lesbians, everybody wants to have the cake and eat it too. Right. But you've got to understand that there's certain things that you. Don't put yourself in that position where you're on the internet looking for a random guy. Right. That's going to come to your house and give you a sample of semen. Yeah. It's just weird. It's weird. It's just weird. I'm sorry. I don't know what kind of normal human being would think that was okay. When I started that documentary there was no. I thought it was all about clinics. Oh, he told me it was completely clean. When they actually showed them going on a line and the guy would go to their house and they would meet him in a parking lot and stuff. And drive home with his little sample. I had no idea that that was going to happen. Yeah, they were squeezing it between their legs so it didn't get cold. So they needed to keep it warm. The craziest part. They needed to keep it warm. Right. But when you donate it to a clinic they freeze it. It's the air that will kill it, not anything else. Whatever. In any case, I didn't realize that was ever even a thing. Never even thought about that. It's messed up. And I thought that the women that were on that documentary were completely wrong. I agree. For the only reason that they opened up a can of worms that will never go away now. Yeah, I mean I worry about the whole incest thing and what if it's siblings. Which, you know, knowingly that's a really weird thing and I guess... I got to say, I got to say time out. Okay. At some point in time, how do you know how many people haven't been with a half-sibling that they didn't know about? That's what I was going to say. Is there any actual research on this being an actual problem? I guarantee you this all started because of like 23andMe. Okay. So all this genetic information that's now available is pushing this kind of stuff. So I just, I wonder, obviously you think about the whole incest thing and it's obviously not something anybody wants or anything. But is there actually genetic problems when that actually happens? Is there any studies on that? I have no idea. We got right out of that documentary and just started this. Yeah. Excuse me. We did. Right out of that documentary and started this. So here we are. Ah. I don't know. I don't know. I mean look, even if you are incestual. Okay. Nobody's going after the inbreds. People are looking like, I don't know, bottom of the board in Kentucky or something. Oh boy. I can tie it up. That is completely stereotypical. I don't know if that's true. But anyway. Right. It was for imagery. Mm-hmm. Where they, you know, they have one tooth that sticks too far and then the rest of them are gone. Right. Well, I guess they're saying that would be knowingly they would know that, right? Right. Nobody's going after them. I think it's a problem. Right. Why is this a problem? This guy just found a loophole. I mean, I wonder how, even with the amount of children he has, I wonder how many of them would actually come into contact with each other. Even if it was exactly a thousand. Right. There are seven billion people in this world. Right. Seven billion. Yeah. If he has a thousand kids, even if he has two thousand kids, even if he has twenty thousand kids, that is so much less than seven billion. Right. So the chances are frigging slim. I agree. It's like, what are you talking about? Could be. Could be. Forget the could be. First of all, show me if, whether or not two half siblings can procreate and be fine. Especially if they don't know about it. Because I guarantee you, your mind, your brain thinks differently on each level, even though genetically you might be related. Right. Yeah, they're saying genetically it causes problems, but what? But genetically it does. But even inbreds have normal human beings. Yes. They do. It's a true story. I'm sure. And I hate to use the term inbred, but I don't have another. But then when you say it, I'm like, oh. I don't have another term. Agree. I don't even know if there's a medical term for it. All I hear is a banjo in the background, and I feel like putting a piece of straw in my mouth. Yeah, I know. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That's so bad. I know it is. Well, we probably just lost the inbred crowd. Yeah. I don't know how many of them. They might have been the only people. Huge crowd of those. But maybe. They were probably the only people that listened to us. Oh, yeah? Yeah. That's right. I'm guessing. You're just fibbing all the time. That's right. It is sad. The whole thing was whacked. I couldn't believe that the ladies were saying what they were saying. It was almost like, are you serious here? Yeah. They just went so far into it, too, and then made a Facebook group and started talking about it. Yeah. I just didn't understand why. I understand when you think about it, they were told it was only going to be five children or something. But, come on. The guy was on the Internet. You really believe that? Exactly. And then you blew up your spot by chasing it too far. Right. And you, not only did you. And now I'm going to get you in trouble. 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