Episode 20: "America This Week," with Matt Taibbi and Walter Kirn

All right, welcome to America This Week, I'm Matt Zahebi. And I'm Walter Cairns. Walter, you know, now that I've had a few days to come up for air a little bit, I just want to apologize for being a little disruptive in the last month, you've been so cool about this, that I just wanted to say I'm here, and I feel like I feel bad about how crazy and how far from here that you've been with your children and your family. Well, there is such a thing as an average guy in the journalism world, and I can see you do that, and I can see you respond to all of the information that I can give you at this moment, but I understand because, you know, I think it's important for you to know that the Twitter files that you've been allowed to sift through and so easily interpret is of the utmost importance, and I can tell that I'm getting to a point in my coverage of the world when I've been able to see two or three others, the actual distortion of our effort and the powers that be, has been very satisfying. Just personally, it's a tremendous story that you've kind of, you know, revelated and that you're not used to yet, and any personal frustration I may have felt, you know, really outweighed by what you just did. You know, I'm glad. It's all good. 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