Episode 45

In this episode of the Craft Beer Podcast, the hosts interview a brewery from Brighton called Loud Shirt. They also try beers from G3 Brewery and Near Beer. The G3 beer is a gluten-free New Zealand IPA with fruity flavors. The Near Beer is a low-alcohol IPA that tastes more like a lager. The hosts also mention their favorite beers from Whitman Brewing Company and Brew York. They end the episode by trying a table beer from Vault City called Peach Ice Tea. Welcome along to episode 45 of Daft About Craft, the Craft Beer Podcast, with me Dave B. And me, Dave B. Thanks a lot for joining us. What have we got for you this time? Well, our main interview is with a brewery from Brighton. Now, say Brighton, and you think unbarred, beak. I'm not sure you think of Loud Shirt. Now, I'm known for a Loud Shirt or two, so I'm looking forward to talking to these guys. I've got an American owner and brewer, and you can find out all about Loud Shirt if you stay tuned to the podcast. What else have we got, Dave? So, we are... So, we have usual favourites like Brew To Me, The Brewer's Wife, Tried and Tested. We also have Hypo Tribe, and if you listened to the last episode of Hypo Tribe, it was all about a big boozy stout. Well, this time it is the complete opposite end of the scale, as we are taking a road test with a table beer, which we'll find out more about later on. Massively looking forward to this. Actually bought four cans of it, because I'm really expecting... Did you really? I did, yeah. Wow. So, I hope it's good. I'm sure it will be. Well, it's any more than that just for now, and we'll get to that later on in the podcast. Now, look, let's start things off, shall we? I need a beer, and I'm sure you need one as well, Dave, so let's kick it off with Brew To Me, where we try a beer from a brewery we haven't sampled before. What have you got for us? Well, I'm actually indebted to you for this one. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, my attempts to... I actually have sourced one, which I might use for next time. But anyway, my attempts largely have been unsuccessful, unfortunately, and that's no knock on people, it's just we were talking before we started recording that a lot of breweries seem very, very busy. So, actually getting to chat to them and explain what we're doing and what we'd like to do with them isn't proving quite as straightforward at the moment, but... No, it's not easy. I think a lot of people are gearing up for festival season, and they're doing a lot of brewing now, the weather's getting warmer, and tying people down, a couple of herberts like us tying people down for a chat and for all the rest of it's not always easy. But anyway, look, we've got our Brew To Me beers in front of us. Yes, well, one person who did very kindly interact and have a chat with us was Daryl at G3 Brewery, and am I right in saying this is their first beer? So this is their first beer, G3, a brand new to the scene, and Daryl will be along in a minute to tell you what he's got up his sleeve, but he's doing a few colabs for now, and this one was with Blunt Rock, based in Cornwall, I think. In Cornwall? I was going to say, were you going to put him in after you'd said that about the colab that was with Blunt Rock? No, we'll talk a bit more and then put him in, because we've only been going for a minute or two. Yes, so their first colab is with Blunt Rock, who are quite well established, and G3, well, you tell us, Dave, G3, what's it all about? So G3, the big selling point is the G3 stands for gluten-free. So the ethos here is going to be all the beers are gluten-free, and their first beer, this colab which we're talking about with Blunt Rock, is called Space Time, and it is a New Zealand IPA, not a New England, a New Zealand IPA, and it is 5.6%, and the hops are Mosaic, Nelson Sovan, Motaweka, and Rewaka. Oh, this sounds nice. Oh, the colour is, now this is one of the orangiest beers I've had in a while, actually. It does look orange, doesn't it? Now, I can smell the fruitiness of the hops. Can you tell there's not gluten in a beer through the nose? I would say, possibly. Well, we'll see. I think that it's on the taste when it becomes, can become most apparent. In the taste, it's not. Oh, fantastic. I would say. I always think that, I don't ever set out to have a gluten-free beer, but when I do, I sometimes think there's like a little bit missing from them. I know what you mean. It's that slight fullness, I think, which possibly just comes from the gluten. It's like you're only getting 80-85% of the beer you might have had if the gluten was there. I think if you blind-tasted it, I don't think you'd know. Oh, that is a... I probably haven't had that many gluten-free beers, but I know exactly where you're coming from with it. But I think if you'd have told me, if I'd have just said, oh, it's this new G3 brewery with Blunt Rock & Drunk here, you'd have had to tell me that they're gluten-free, if you see what I mean. That's the shtick. I would have just thought, oh yeah, okay, what's this about? And what's it like on the taste then? I'm thinking quite fruit-heavy with not much bitterness. I don't think you're far off there. It is quite fruit-heavy. It's quite sticky fruit. Slightly over-ripe stuff, I would say. Maybe over-ripe papaya. The sort of tropical rather than the grapefruity stuff. And I guess that would account for the colour as well? And it's not hugely bitter at all, really. Well, I'm glad that Daryl was kind enough to send us both one because I've got one downstairs as well, so I'm quite looking forward to it. No, it's a good beer. I'd be interested, as we always say with Colabs, who's, you know, I imagine this is Daryl's recipe and he's been able to brew it at Blunt Rock because he's starting out and the gluten-free aspect is obviously his thing as well. So it feels like this is probably quite him over standing next to someone from Blunt Rock and watching, if you see what I mean. Well, let's pass over to Daryl now and he can tell us all about this. It's quite nice, I can hear birds in the background. Is that my end or your end? I'm not sure. I've got the window open, it's my end. Oh, nice. It's not bad. I would struggle to know that's gluten-free, I think. That's excellent, then. It smelt a bit thin on the nose, if that makes sense. I've never thought of... It's sort of watery. Yeah, yeah. It looked a little bit like that as well, just from what I saw when you held it up. I wouldn't say it's that... I'd say it tastes fuller than it is in a glass. That's all right, I've got no complaints with it at all. Well, thank you very much, Daryl. So, like he says, what they aim to do there is just delicious gluten-free beer. He doesn't have gluten himself and he wants beers that he likes to drink and that other people who don't have gluten will like to drink as well. From what you were just saying there, Dave, as Daryl was talking, you like that quite a bit. I have absolutely no complaints with this beer, it's lovely. What do you think of the can art as well? I quite like that, it's good, isn't it? What is it? Oh, yes, I see. It's a space time as well. So, yeah, it stands out a bit. It's a bit 90s rave, I would say. He was saying that he designed that himself as well. He didn't get anybody in to design the can, did he? No, no, it's OK, yeah. I could probably imagine that in my mind's eye, that never had the competency to put it together. No, it looks cool. It's a good-looking can. You would spot it on a shelf, wouldn't you? You would, yeah, absolutely. We'll put a picture up of it as well, but it's got a bit of the neon going on. There is that effect where the light will hit the silver in the can, what's that? Yeah, I like that. I'm sure there's a name for it, I can't think of what it is. I'm sure there is a name for it as well. I think it's a bit like tinsel or something, but it's better than that. But, no, this is a good beer and it's a good can and I look forward to seeing what else is going to come out of this gluten-free. It wouldn't put me off in the slightest. Now, if you are looking for a gluten-free beer, obviously go and get this. And if you just want a nice beer, go and get this. He is selling them on his website, g3brewery.com and you can get six cans of that for £30. Which seems like a fair deal to me. Absolutely. Yep, there's plenty of beers out there for a fiver or more that wouldn't be as good as that. Right, well, that's good. I hope, well, I'm looking forward to having that. I'm not going to have that now. What I've got is a beer from a brewery called Near Beer. Now, Near Beer specialise in beer that is 2% or less. Oh, so they've both got specialties. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, low alcohol, low carb and they say low chance of disappointment. Okay, and where are they based? I knew you were going to say that. Sorry. Hold on. I can't actually see. Ah. London. The City of London, it says here. So, well, let's crack it open, shall we? Let's see how this is. I'm looking forward to this. We've said before, quite a bit recently on the podcast, that we're both getting used to drinking more lower ABV beers, especially as the weather gets warmer and you might be out in the garden having a barbecue or whatever. So, what I have here is Near Beer's extra small IPA, 2%. So, this is right at the threshold of their ABV level. Although, interestingly, on the last episode, I was talking about having beers out and one of my favourite beers on the day a few weeks ago was a micro IPA, which I believe was 2.1 or something. Mm, there you are. That looks very clear in the glass, by the way. Not a lot of haze in there. No, not a lot of haze. Let me just see what's actually in this. Two ticks. It's good, isn't it? It's a good deal. Yeah. Yeah, spot on. Now, I'm not quite sure what hops are in this, but for me, it drinks more like a lager than a beer. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. It drinks more like a lager than an IPA. Right. Which is fine by me. It's quite nice. It's quite nice, but it's not an IPA. Does that look like an IPA to you? No, not in the slightest. Does it look like a lager to you? Yeah, what's the actual beer called? Extra Small IPA. XS IPA. Hmm. Yeah, help me out a bit here. Do you know they're a contract brewery? Well, hopefully, when we get his audio, he'll tell us that. We're coming across more and more contract breweries, aren't we? Have you noticed? Hmm. Show me your one again. Oh, yeah, someone else has got one in a similar colour. Yeah, no, I found it. It's been around a while, this beer, actually. I've been checking it in from 2021. It says here that it's an extra-sectional IPA that's as thick and juicy as it is balanced and fruity. I'm not having that. So, well, the untapped says, chock full of tropical juiciness, mouth-watering peachiness, and ties your taste buds in a bow with delightful caramelliness. All that and only 2%. That's a lot of claims there. Oh, no. Just be honest. If it doesn't taste... It can be perfectly pleasant, but not what it's supposed to be. That's fine. Hops, Galaxia, Zaka and Simcoe. All right. I just thought it was some sort of lager hop. OK, let's... What, Halotel Pog? What is it? Saz, isn't it? Saz hop, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, OK. So, what we have here is excess IPA, extra-small IPA, 2%. And the hops involved here are Galaxia, Zaka and Simcoe. Now, for me, when I look at this beer, it looks like a nice lager you'd enjoy in the garden on a summer's day. It doesn't have the body of a big, thick, fruity IPA. What do you think, Dave? You can see it on screen there. Even many miles apart, as I said earlier, there is no haze. That looks pretty much crystal clear, which I wouldn't necessarily associate with being a pale. Now, they can be. Obviously, West Coast to the style, but if it's not tasting like a West Coast and it's saying it's a... Yeah, it's not tasting like a West Coast. That bitterness isn't there. What I get is a little bit of a caramelly note, they mention. And for me, it looks and tastes more like a lager than an IPA. Having said that, I like it. And these 330ml cans, I've nearly got through one, just sitting here talking about this in a couple of minutes, you know. Yeah, well, opening, as they say in certain Corpo circles, opening the kimono a bit. We're recording this after you've not long clocked off from a work shift, and it feels like that is filling the knees perfectly. Absolutely ideal. The guys at Near Beer were kind enough to send six cans of this, and I'm very tempted to go and get another couple and plough on through those, because it's very good. My only qualm is I don't think it's quite what it says it is on the tin. But still a perfectly pleasant beer. Oh, yeah. And you can get six cans of it from their website for £16.50. Well, you can't really argue with that. That sounds like, as you said earlier, perfect barbecue accompaniment or end of the day thing, where you sort of think, oh, I'd love a beer, but I don't really want anything too much. And they're 330s as well. I'm not sure we said about that. 330s, yeah. Small beer, small can. Yeah, it's all small. Small can, small beer, big on taste, but not quite as described, is what I would say. Let's pass over to the guys from Near to tell us all about it. I think you'd enjoy it. It's nice when that happens, isn't it? It's great. Oh, well, there you go. Now you know all about Near Beer. You've been filled in there on a few things that I weren't sure about. And as they were talking, I've pretty much finished that off. I like it. Just like I say, not sure it's actually an IPA for me, and I'm not getting... Usually when we have Galaxy, you know about Galaxy. You can tell straight away, and I wouldn't pick that out. The same with the Azaka and Simcoe there. For me, tastes like a lager, looks like a lager. Rebrand it as a lager. There you are. We only went to one place in the end because we met work colleagues, and it was all... Right, it's tried and tested time now, where we have a look at what we've been drinking since we last spoke to you, and see what we've enjoyed the most. Dave, what have you been enjoying? Well, it turns out, looking at my untapped at least, not all that much. It was a surprisingly short list, which was a bit of a shame, because it feels like I've not been abstinent since the last episode or anything, but... What do you think you've been doing then? I'm not quite sure. I think I've had a couple of occasions where I've been out and had things, and then either I've forgotten to check in, or I've perhaps just been drinking stuff that isn't worth checking in, if you know what I mean. I know, yeah. Anyway, but this very much was, and there was a bit of a tie-in actually, because the day job is nothing to do with beer, but by chance, there was a bit of a connection, and there are some American people who happen to bring beer over from time to time, because they are involved in brewing it, and that brewery is Whitman Brewing Company in Saratoga. Whoa, you're mixed in interesting circles these days. You never told me about this. So, well, when I first started this job, there were beers from this place there, but because I didn't want to be presumptuous, so I left them alone for ages. Well, anyway, now I've got my feet under the table. When they turned up, I didn't get to meet them unfortunately, because I'm definitely angling to get them to come on the podcast at some point. They did leave beers, and they did leave hats. I obviously have a hat. Shameless. And yes, they left beers, and they said, oh, you should give one to me as I do a podcast and whatnot. So, the beer in question is called The Sleepers, and it is an imperial stout, only 8.5%, which is, I feel, quite low for an imperial. However, it didn't taste low. It's the classic coffee, vanilla mix, but it just had that little bit extra to it. It was just really well put together. You sort of got coffee, but it didn't go full sort of roast bitterness and dominate, and you got vanilla, but it didn't go full sweet lactose and dominate. Just really working nicely together, and chocolatey as well as the booze. So, I'm hoping that, you know, the next visit from Whitman's, they might leave more, or Whitman, sorry, they might leave more beer, and if you do see any of theirs out and about, there are certain sort of websites and whatnot that are doing the sort of American orders. They're starting to trickle back in. So, if you see any Whitman Brewing Company, I would certainly recommend it. So, just to clarify, are you saying that the actual brewery in America, those beers came direct from the brewery, from the people who run the brewery? Came over from America with them, yes. They brought a few samples with them. I'm in the wrong business. Right. Well, my tried and tested is also an Imperial Stout. It's an Imperial Milk Stout, 12% from Brew York, and it was one of the collabs they did for their seventh birthday, the collaboration ones that were done for Eurovision, and this is the one that was a collab with Lervig. So, we got these cans lined up, and as we were watching Eurovision, as the different countries came on, we drank the appropriate beer. So, when Norway came on, we had the Lervig collab, and it's called Give That Wolf a Cherry, 12%, cherry, cacao, tonka, vanilla, Imperial Stout. You see a lot of tonka stouts about, and sort of a bit tiresome, really, because they all... The tonka sort of takes over, doesn't it? Exactly, but this didn't. That's what was so good about it, and I can remember it perfectly well. I can remember drinking it now, and I'd like to have another one right now, because it was really good. The cherry really came through. The tonka wasn't overwhelming. It was quite subtle. It's a really clever beer, and it didn't taste anything like its 12%. And I must say this. Had it with my neighbour, Jason, who's a big fan of the podcast. He hated it. But I loved it. He preferred one of the sours that was part of the collab series. But, yeah, it just goes to show, not all beers are for everybody, but I really, really, really did enjoy that. Give That Wolf a Cherry from Brew York and Lervig. You'll never get a better Norwegian Eurovision entry than Alexander Rybak, by the way. Fairytale. Norman Violin. Two years back now. They won it. It won with that. Oh, okay. Sorry, there's a cat just jumped on me. Absolute... Oh, hello. What's this? Nothing. Go on. I do love Eurovision, but... I can never remember the songs that... I just remember that one, because... Well, on Hi4Tripe last time, like Dave said earlier on in the episode, we had a massive stout. Both enjoyed it. And right at the other end of the scale now, it's got a 3.4% table beer. Why is it Hi4Tripe, though? Well, for a number of reasons, really. Go on, Dave. Well, I only just realised this, but I now understand why it's one of the reasons. I, as reasons will come to, it is this brewery's first ever table beer. Which I did not know. So I now understand this a bit more. There are reasons I think you can explain better. Well, there's lots of reasons. One of them... Well, let's say what it is first. We haven't said who the brewery is. It's Vault City, who've had lots... There we go. Lots and lots of mentions on this podcast, mainly from me, picking up all their massive, crazy fruit sours and their nutty stouts that don't come out of the bottle, all of this sort of thing. But they've done their first table beer. They've done their first beer in a 250ml can. They obviously have been listening to the podcast and listen to our conversations. Very funny, mate. It's just a slimline. I just checked as you said that, It's also their first beer in a slimline can, which we heartily endorse. We do love a slimline can. Brew by Numbers have been doing some recently and Vault City have got on it as well. It's got brand new artwork, the like of which we haven't seen from Vault before. So it's all going on here. And this beer isn't just a table beer at 3.4%. It's called Peach Ice Tea. So this is going to be interesting. I guess it could be. I was waving my can around and now it's fizzing up all over the place. I guess there's a chance this could be a bit on the sweet side. Potentially. While I'm pouring it out, I'm really quite surprised at why they've changed the can up for the can, if that makes sense. Everyone can pick, well not everyone, but you can pick a Vault City bottle, a mile off, can't you? Yeah, the bottles, the cans, they're very distinctive. They've got their core range in supermarkets. You see them on the shelves. You like craft beer, you know what Vault City look like. Look at this can. This could be from an American brewery for me. Exactly what I was going to say. There is a brewery that I think this looks like. I can't think of the name of them, but I know I've had one of their beers because it was a special beer that I bought from the coracle because I wanted to try it. Energy City. No. It's not Energy City. It's something like... I'll have to find it. One second. Yeah, it's a real step away from their usual style. I think they begin with a B. Ah. Bistro or something? Something like that. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. Bistro. I do a range called Bistro Smoothie. I think I quite liked it. I'm thinking it's going to turn up higher rather than lower. I'm just having to go through. Going from high to low. Right, yeah, go. Yeah, you said an American brewery, and you said Energy City. I thought of a very different one, and it did take about five minutes of hunting, but I thought of the brewery, B-R-U-E-R-Y, who use a very similar layout for their beers. Yeah, and it's quite distinctively American, so for me, if I saw... Even though it says Vault City in that font, if I saw this on a shelf, I wouldn't think that's a Vault City. It would take me a few... And I'm their biggest fan, but it would take me a few minutes to realise, oh, it's actually Edinburgh's Vault City here. Interestingly, though, when I went to pick this up today, really easy to spot. I don't know if that was because it was in my mind that that was a beer I needed to go get, but I found it ever so easily. I had seen already that it wasn't going to be in a bottle, but even so, it was... Oh, yeah, that's the one, straightaway out the fridge. No sort of hunting, so perhaps it works. And before we go into tasting this beer, Dave, you popped in for one 330ml can, which was this one, and what did you leave hopsters in Ipswich with? I think I left with about nine beers. So instead of spending about four quid, you spent about 60 quid. Pretty much, yeah. And if you're a new listener to this, and a new listener to this hobby, this is what happens to you. And the worst bit is, I knew it was going to happen as well, but I was completely fine with it. I went in, I thought, you know what? I haven't been into hopsters for quite a while, I'm going to give them some money. And I did. I'm going to give them some money. And I did. And when you're in that kind of mood, it just sort of happens. And I was straightaway excited, because I got a bit of a nudge to say, oh, I've got some new stuff in, do you want to have a look? And I was sort of like, oh, OK. And then it turned out, Ed, who is the owner of Hopsters, said, oh, yeah, let's try and do it a bit different now, because obviously everyone can order from web shops, which we've talked about, and we do. So we're getting some stuff from a bit further afield again now, which is great to see, and hopefully it's going to be a bit of a sign of things to come wider, because it would be nice to get those US and those European beers back in more. And anyway, they had some stuff from a French brewery who might feature, with a bit of luck, on the next episode, so stay tuned for that. Which will be fascinating, because when you say France, obviously you think of wine, not craft beers. Yeah, or St. Omar. Yeah, just... The 250 stubby. You just would not think of them as a craft beer producing country, would you? So it would be fascinating if we can get hold of them, and also to see what this beer's like. Anyway, we digress. We've both poured this out. Look, I tell you what, for a 3.4% beer, goodness me, the colour on that, and the viscosity of it. Ooh, yes. Very much so. And the smell as well. Very heavy peach. Not sweet, sweet peach, though, is it? No, it doesn't... Well, I haven't tasted it yet. Let's taste it. Oh, no, not at all. Sometimes these... Dave's pulling faces. Is this too tart for you, Dave? A little bit. I'm going to keep with it, because I know there's always that initial thing with me with a sour where it's too much, and then it might mellow out. And to be honest, it's probably not that sour, is it? As an aficionado like yourself, it's not that sour, probably, is it? I don't think so. I don't... Yeah, next time you're over, we'll crack open some real heavy sours. Now, I would say it's tart rather than sour. But maybe I... I sometimes wondered, because I've had so many sours, that I've just sort of become accustomed to the sourness. Mmm. Now, the description, actually, leads me to what we had earlier, where we had the Brut Me, which was a nice beer, but perhaps not as the... So, front of the can says peach iced tea table beer. Now, I had in my head what I thought that would be. I thought that would be peachy and light. And yes, it comes from Vault City, but they're calling it a table beer, so I'm not necessarily expecting a table sour. Back of the can, our first ever table beer comes in the form of a super-crushable peach iced tea sour. Fair enough, because it comes from Vault City, I should expect that. But it doesn't say it on the front. On the front of the can, I was just thinking that the word sour isn't there, Yeah. Conditioned on sweet, juicy peaches and steeped black tea. Refreshing, dry and sensationally balanced. Now, do you get any black tea? I mean... I love a nice cup of black tea. I take my tea with no milk, no sugar, drink a lot of black tea, so that is my bag. Mm-hm. Your tea bag. It may well be in there, it may not be, I've got no idea. And quite frankly, anybody who says they can taste tea in that is lying. Well, they must be. There's no tea in that, is there? Well, there may be, I just don't get it. I don't think so. I think it's predominantly peach, isn't it? But actually, black tea doesn't really taste it very much, does it? No. No. It's not like a black coffee, is it? No, very true. You know when you're having a black coffee, don't you? The sourness is a bit less second time for me. I'm just, I'm slightly disappointed because I wanted a table beer and I don't feel I'm having a table beer. Maybe I'm being picky. What is interesting is they do a lot of what they call session sours now. Mm. Ah. There's a whole range of the session sours. And... they're all very good. They're all about 4%, all 4.5%. This could quite easily be one of their session sours. Right. So it could almost just be a peach session? Peach, yeah. Session sour. It could be a peach smoothie session sour, perhaps. Yeah. It's got that thickness to it, that body to it. It does have great thickness to it. What do you think of it? Can you sort of deliver more of a review of this? Because I'm a bit conditioned to not be a huge fan of sours, so I don't want to be unfair to it. Like it a lot, when I went into my second tip, second, when I went into my second sip, that sourness did actually hit me a little bit more, whereas you said it lessened a little bit, but I did get it more. It is quite, for a beer that is sub 4%, it packs a lot of flavour in there. There's a lot going on. Yeah, you can't deny that. For the ABV, it is very flavoursome. Absolutely. They've done really well with that. And it undeniably tastes of peach. Can't fault that. I think it's just a style thing for me. I love table beers. I don't think I like table sours. But plenty of people will. So don't be put off by that. If you like sours, and you're sort of thinking, oh, it'd be really nice to have one that isn't much the same as the way I think of pales, it'd be lovely to have one that's not 5%, 6% all the time. I'd love to have more 3%. This is perfect. But if you don't like sours, I don't think this is going to change your mind. You just want a yellow hoppy table beer day, don't you? You just want a yellow hoppy table beer day, don't you? I love a table beer. I absolutely love a table beer. And a micro IPA and things like that. I'm all for it. No, I think fair play to Vault City for going a little bit out of their comfort zone by doing a table beer. Although they haven't gone fully out of it because it's not really a table beer. But it's a step in the right direction perhaps. Yeah, I have nothing against it for what it is. I think it's well brewed. I think it hits the brave of it is peach. It is low ABV and it tastes really full. It's great. As we've said, it's so full of flavour. Before we tasted it, what I was thinking was have they made a mistake here putting a 3% beer in a slimline 330ml can? Surely we want more of it. But in actual fact, I think that measure is just about right for this beer. It's enough, isn't it? I don't want much more of it, funny enough. If you were ordering that in a bar, half to two thirds, I think, you'd probably be quite happy, wouldn't you? I wouldn't be wanting a pint of that. No, not at all. Well, I wouldn't, obviously. But I don't mind it. I think the final word should go to you in that I'm never going to love this beer. It just doesn't suit what I like to drink. But I can appreciate what's been done. What would be interesting is if they do a range of these beers now, using this new artwork, if this is going to be the first of many, I don't know. That would be interesting to see if it's a thing they continue. Yeah. And maybe they'll do other things. What else could you do in that range? Peach Ice Tea, what else do you get? I mean, I'd be thinking on those sorts of lines, the way they're doing that, we've said it looks very American. I'd be thinking you should be doing some sort of key lime. Yeah, although they've done a key lime one previously, I think. To be honest, there's not many flavours and combinations that Vault City haven't done. And as their biggest fan, I've probably had most of them. In fact, quite some time ago, I may have said on the podcast, surely there'll be a stage where they run out of ideas. There's only so many fruit combinations you're going to have. Well, yeah. And I mean, they've also branched out, haven't they? And they've done their stouts and things like that. I was going to, if I'd been able to get hold of it today, because I know a lot of people have had it, I was going to get that deep fried battered Mars Bar one, just to not have this. I was going to do that to show the other end of the spectrum. I didn't think I was going to be able to get hold of it, because I know it's been very popular. Yeah, I didn't have it either, actually. Having mentioned that, it just goes to show you what a massive range that Vault City cover. And that stout you're talking about there got a lot of high praise and high marks and untapped and what have you. And this is very good. Like I say, it could easily just be a session sour. I think it's a bit gimmicky with the peach ice tea. But it's very well made. It's a hype beer for me. It's good. It lives up to its billing. But it's just another demonstration of what Vault City can do. And they're not one trick ponies. They can make all sorts of beers. Do you remember that sour IPA they did that we had? Do you remember that? That was a good beer, yeah. You know. Yeah, that was good. I mean, they're featured on Hype or Trite before. We did the ones where they used the same recipe, didn't they? And they absolutely nailed one of the two and then the other one didn't work. I can't think of what it was now. Yeah. Yeah, for me it's a hype category. Am I glad I got four cans of it? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Yeah, I am. I'm not going to go and guzzle them all down in one hit. But, nice summer's day, out on the patio, three and a half percent, fruity beer, yeah. Toot toot!