Injury Time 26april2024

Lisa Cole, an elite athlete in Gaelic football, athletics, and soccer, is being interviewed on the Injury Time program. The conversation focuses on her early days in soccer, particularly her time with the Conamara Coasters. Lisa recalls playing with the team at a young age and being highly competitive. She remembers the coaches and teammates who had a positive influence on her. The interview also mentions some memorable games and achievements of the Conamara Coasters, including a cup final they won. Lisa shares her regret of not being able to play in a particular game due to other commitments. Overall, the interview provides insights into Lisa's early soccer career and her passion for the sport. This program is kindly sponsored by Kalmar Abbey and Gardens, 095-52001. Good evening listeners, you're all welcome to Injury Time, the final Injury Time program of April. Paul Gannon here, and I'm joined in studio by the great Lisa Cole. Lisa, you're very welcome. Good evening Paul. And I suppose it's always a privilege to sit in a studio in this role with someone who I consider to be an elite athlete, and I hope by the end of this program that you, the listeners, are given a bit of a deeper insight into the world of an elite athlete, because without a shadow of a doubt, over many, many years, more than two decades, Lisa Cole has been on the cutting edge of elite sport, not only across Gaelic football, but also across athletics and soccer, and we're going to divide up our program this evening into three parts, and part one will focus exclusively on athletics and on soccer, and Lisa, that brings me to my first ever memory of you, it was a forum tournament on the Gaelic football pitch at Ní Féin Gaea Grounds in Clifton, around 1992, a primary school soccer competition that they organised, and you were playing for Kingston, and you won the tournament, and I don't know how many goals you scored that day, but it was high. Do you remember that tournament, Lisa? I vaguely remember it, yeah. I have a picture of all the team and so on and so forth. I do remember that my boots were about three or four sizes too big for me, but I tied them tight. Yeah, it was a good tournament. I don't remember all the games and everything, but I think the pictures bring back more memories than anything else. Of course, that's where I first got to know you, Lisa, all those years ago. I was only about 20, and you were in junior infants, that was a long time ago in Kingston. Yeah, you had your mini car there for going zoom down to school, junior infants I think it was. Yeah. So I hadn't seen you, because I moved on after a year and a half, you know, came back this way, and I hadn't seen you in a few years. So that was the first time I'd seen you really, since you had been in infants all those years ago in Kingston, and obviously you were a complete standout on the day, and at a completely different level to all the other players in terms of what you could do with a football, and just spatial awareness and kinesthetic intelligence, and I do remember all of that, and you know, you had that Messi or Maradona factor, you know, about you on the day, and I remember your team were awfully proud of you, and like so delighted that, you know, you were with them. So I was delighted, of course, being, you know, having worked in Kingston for Kingston to come out on top that day, I was very happy for you. Was soccer the first sport that you ever played? Yeah, I suppose, between soccer and Gaelic football, I did play with Ní Fheathain for a while in the Gaelic. I suppose soccer really was one of the first sports that I was playing, I suppose I played with the National School, and then once I went into secondary school, I suppose I was 12 in the January, going to secondary school, and I heard the Conamara Coasters, I think it was Debbie Ruddy actually at the time that I'd gone in contact with, and I just asked would it be possible if I could go out and play. I'm sure they were thinking, God, this girl's only 12, I was small and scrawny, and say they thought I was just going to get pushed all over. So I went out and there was a bunch of lads there, Fiddler and Joe Ackham and Daniel Flaherty and many more training, and I said I'd give it a go, probably the best decision I ever made, the best, one of the, some of the best years of my life playing with the Conamara Coasters. A special mention actually to Charlie and Kathleen O'Malley, may they rest in peace, they were the nicest two people, and they were so good to me. I went out to some of the matches, I was only 12, 13, and sometimes I'd stay out in Tully Cross or out in Wrenval, I'd stay in their house and I'd get up in the morning, they'd have a big fry made for me, and the distinctive voice of Charlie roaring at you from the sideline would make anybody run up and down the pitch, so, and all the girls were so welcoming to me in Wrenval and the Conamara Coasters, it was definitely some of the best years I had playing soccer, yeah. I stand correction on this, but I think Conamara Coasters were founded in 1993, which would have kind of coincided with you starting secondary school as you said, because that tournament admission was 92, so you must have been in sixth class when you played that, when you played that. Oh I could have been, yeah, I think. And, like, did you not reflect at all, for any length of time, on the fact that this was an, you know, an adult club, and you were pretty much a child, or? No, not really, I suppose, I just loved playing sports and I didn't care what age level it was, and I just wanted to play. I mean, the first couple of games that I went out, I was standing on the sideline and I was itching to get on. I was so competitive, and the girls, in fairness, always wanted to win, but I suppose, now that I'm older, I look back and I think, oh, it was a social aspect for them too, to get out of family life and get away and do their own thing and play soccer and all, they wanted to win. If they lost, you know, they'd still have a good time, whereas, for me, it was win at all costs. I was so competitive, and they kind of just used to laugh at me because I wouldn't talk to anyone on the way home because I'd be so cross if we lost, and they'd be singing on the bus, and I suppose, like, in a way, I remember some of the games that we used to go away to on the bus coming home. It could be one or two o'clock, I'd have no homework done, my mother would be waiting for me at Streamstone in the car, no mobile phone, so, yeah, I suppose I have to say thank you to my parents, really, for all sports, because without them I wouldn't have been able to go anywhere until I was able to drive myself. And just your memories of training sessions with the coasters, like, who were the coaches at the time? Were there any of the coaches that would have had a very positive influence on you? Yeah, thinking back, I think Daniel Flaherty was probably, was very heavily involved, and Joachim Leuden, Pat Fidler, now, correct? I'm sorry if I'm forgetting anybody here, but I suppose I was young at the time. Yeah, they all, I just really enjoyed playing, and, you know, some of the games, we were very competitive, everyone tried their hardest, and it was good fun, it was a good team to be part of. A certain Gráinne O'Malley might have played with you? Gráinne O'Malley, yeah, her left foot, no one would get in her way. Yeah, Margaer Moroney zooming up and down that sideline, the O'Malleys. Georgina Flaherty, she'd great pace down the wing as well. Yeah, myself and Georgina actually played for Connacht in an Inter-Provincials in Limerick for a weekend. I think Ross Salmon was on that team as well. Yeah, she was a good player too. Yeah, no, I couldn't tell you if we won or lost. We won a few games, I can't tell you if we won the whole thing or not. I think we got some sort of a shield at home. I haven't looked at it in years, so I don't know what it was at the time, but, yeah. I didn't see many Connemara Coasters games, I was probably heavily involved in Renfell and West Coast myself in the playing, there was probably clashes at matches, but I do recall travelling in to Digital Grounds to watch, I think it was a Division 3 Cup Final, which I think you won at 9-0. Yeah. And my outstanding memory is the Cup. The Cup was tiny, it was just surreal. Do you remember that game? I vaguely remember it, yeah. I suppose, it's so long ago, it's very hard to think of all the games. I probably remember a lot more of the home games and things, but I do remember going to a lot of the away games, and Jack driving the bus, and us getting lost. Yeah, it was, because I suppose in the soccer, compared to the football, the soccer used to be out in the middle of nowhere, we used to go play different teams, and it was very hard. And I suppose back then there was no smartphones or Google Maps, so we had to try and find our way with maps or knowledge, you know, so it wasn't as easy, yeah. So it's a certain irony that you're, you know, being so competitive and always wanting to win and, you know, being at that elite level and so on, and we'll talk about, you know, Ireland in a minute and, you know, the European Under-19s, I think, was it, the U.S. Under-19s? Yeah. I suppose the biggest game that Connemara Coasters ever played had to be the Premiership Cup Final in Amandese Park, 2006, I think, and I don't think you played in it. No, I didn't play in it, no. So there's a massive irony, isn't it, for all the years? It clashed with, I don't know, was it a basketball All-Ireland or was it a cross-country All-Ireland? But I didn't get to, I think it was cross-country at some point. I didn't get to play in it. One of my biggest regrets. I never played in Tarryland Park. Yeah, it was against Salt Hill Devon, I think they lost 4-0, but I think it was Niamh Fahey might have had a major influence on her season. Yeah, she did, yeah. And I didn't get to that game myself as it happened, but that was a big occasion for the girls and it was kind of their swan song in a way, wasn't it, really? It was, yeah. It was, yeah, they looked forward to going and playing, it was a great achievement to get there and, you know, I mean, we lost 4-0 or whatever, but it's good memories to have and everyone gave it their best shot, so there's no more anyone could have done, like, you know. It was just a pity I didn't get to play in it, so. So you would have been playing in school as well, I presume. Did Clifton Community School play in... No, I didn't play any soccer in school whatsoever, no. Dead legs was my thing in school. So how did you manage to make an Irish under-19 squad for your UEFA Championships, with, say, coming from your club base out in the periphery of West Connemara and they wouldn't have been playing at the highest level in club soccer, how did you get spotted or did you just go in for a trial? I think we played a couple of the higher level teams in Galway, Ash Rovers and Castle Celtic and obviously... Or probably in cup competitions, maybe, yeah. And there was scouts out and also I played in with Interprovincials, so maybe I was scouted from there, but yeah, that was... I enjoyed it, yeah. I mean, we were all called Colchies and we would travel up to Dublin because most of the team was made up of Doves and a few girls from Antelone and I think there was myself from Galway and a girl from Mayo and 90% of the team were made up from girls from Dublin. The Katie Taylor, the boxer, she was 16 years old, she played on the same team as I did for the Euros, you know, so... Did you kind of get to know her to a degree? Yeah, I did, but she was a good bit younger than us, I suppose, and she was a great soccer player, but she was very, very quiet and kept to herself. I'd make the effort to go over and talk because I suppose there was a lot of clannish there and she used to be sitting on her own, so I'd go over and have a chat. Very nice girl. Little did I know that she was going to become the champion that she is. And how would you compare some of the players you played with on that Irish team to, say, Irish players like Katie McCabe and some of them that are playing now? Yeah, I suppose it was under-19s, so it's a slightly different level, I suppose, and a lot of the girls that are playing with the Irish team now, their soccer's progressed and the clubs over in England are better, I suppose, funded and a lot more social media to promote it and everything like that. I mean, when Niamh originally went to England, I think she first went over to Arsenal, I think. At the time, she had to work as well as play football to fund her living over there and then she went through a few different teams, Chelsea and she went to Paris Saint-Germain and then she came back and she settled in Liverpool and I suppose she probably made her... You know, it's a professional sport then, she didn't have to work, they put her... She was going to university, I suppose, it was better funded to play, but at the time when she first went over, it wasn't such a viable option as such, you had to work, so... Well, we'll talk about, of course, 2004, you know, later on in the programme and Niamh was, you know, centre-half-back that day on the only Galway team ever to win the Brendan Merton Cup and then she duly went on into a soccer career and have you any regrets that you didn't do the same thing? I don't think so. No, I mean, at the time when I was playing for Ireland, we did a lot of training sessions, obviously we were all in school still, so a lot of it was travelling to Dublin on a Friday evening after work and we would train Saturday and Sunday and when I mean training, it wasn't for an hour and a half, the training was all day long from 8 o'clock, you'd get up at 7 for your breakfast, we were on the pitches at 8 out near Dublin Airport, we would train, our lunch would be brought out to us, we'd have lunch and then we'd train again until 5 o'clock that evening and we'd do the same thing again Sunday and by the time I'd get home, it was, I was just very tired and it was very time-consuming and I enjoyed it but I wasn't too sure that was for me at the time and I was doing a lot of athletics at that time too, so. We'll be taking a break in a couple of minutes and then we'll start part two with the, you know, with the athletics. Look, just to wrap up on the soccer front, you went to Switzerland, you rose? Yeah, that was an experience I have to say, I really enjoyed it, yeah we went to Switzerland, we played three games in the group, it was for the European Cup qualifiers, we didn't qualify needless to say but it was a good experience, it was an eye-opener really, everything was team-orientated even as it came down to what we were wearing every day, everyone had to dress the same and yeah it was very restrictive. And how did all that sit with you, being a free spirit for most of the night? Yeah, I didn't mind it, I mean I was grinning and bearing it because I wanted to play but I wasn't too sure that was for me at the time, you know, so yeah. So I suppose you've given us an insight there into those social processes and you know the administrative processes, we'll say management processes, physical training and so on and it was quite intense. Yeah, it was very intense. On all levels? Yeah. And you probably decided at the time, you know, it's okay maybe in the short term but in the more medium or long term, not for me, was that how you felt at the time? Yeah, I think I was more into athletics at the time, so yeah, I think I was kind of more pushed towards the athletics and I think that kind of made a deciding factor on it all. Okay Lisa, well when we come back after a short break we'll have a chat about your athletics career and so we'll talk to you after the break. Lisa's first piece of music tonight is from the great Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and it's a track called I Won't Back Down and I don't think I need to explain why she selected this one, knowing Lisa as I have for many, many years. 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